If you really want to whistleblow, you can simply put all of this on a social media post and give the link here. The Mods will allow that. For law firms and potential recruiters, people are afraid to do that because it can backfire on their own industry rep. What are you afraid of from Lawsikho? Unless you think that they may counter the post by showing samples of your work and your actions during internship and calling it substandard, which may harm your recruitment prospects.

Hi! I am an associate at Trilegal who wears the hijab. During my time here the firm has been nothing but supportive. It was a non-issue, really. Nobody cares if you wear the hijab, or don’t wear the hijab. They respect your choices as long as your general attire (hijab included) is professional and fits with the dress code followed by your team. I understand your friend’s concerns, but ultimately do not fret over it. Your work, your demeanour, your perseverance matters more. You are just like any other associate and they are all just like you, as it should be.

In the event you are still looking for answers:

AIBE is quite honestly a cakewalk. It is easy. If you can manage the same however, do try and attempt a paper or two (you could get the past papers online, I guess), and IF POSSIBLE, try to do the same within the actual time-limit and in the actual setting. AIBE is less about preparing for the exam, and more about how you take the exam.

BEFORE THE EXAM/ EXAM-PREP
1. Read the contents of the Bare Acts.

2. This might sound as if I am pulling your leg, but in all honesty, know the names of the Acts which you would be carrying

3. I had put flags/ Post-It type notes on the first page of the Bare Acts I was carrying. This helped me pick out the one which I really wanted for a particular question, instead of having to turn to the cover-page. Saved me a ton of time

4. As stated earlier, try and attempt 1-2 past papers. The answers- you might not even have to reach out to the Bare Act/s. OMR sheet marking EATS into those three hours.

5. Be prepared to attempt some questions pertaining to landmark judgements.

DAY OF THE EXAM/ DURING THE EXAM

Naturally, carry the necessary documents, stationery material, etc.

1. Reach your centre early. Gives you time to set up your workspace the way you want it. Setting out 15+ Bare Acts in the most easily accessible manner, given the space constraints at some centres is no joke.

2. Be very careful and meticulous in filling up the necessary details on the OMR sheet.

3. No negative marking. So attempt every question.

4. Keep an eye on the watch. Time does seem to go veeeeery slow in the first 2 hours, and within a flash, it is time to turn in your OMR sheet.

mostly its the ranks and internships. Nobody cares about moots but partners and seniors usually take interest in A0s and interns who have stellar publications since nuances of legal opinions for client deliverables and knowledge management ultimately need a good hold on the choice of words and fluency with black letter law.

So, marks (wont matter during lateral hiring) > Internships > Publications/Int moots > Other moots

Note: moots don't hold weight if its a mere participation; either you win or you lose.

Best of luck friend!

Hi,

I graduated from GNLU in 2016. Due to some health issues/ family reasons had to join LPO now Regretting like hell. Salary/increments are chillar. Very much worried. Why I stayed here for 7 years? Was bound to. Can't reveal here. Please advise guys how to move to In-hoise or law firms. Anybody has sailed through such boat? Help, depressed. I don't mind working even as an A0 or half salary in begining. No troll please

In Capital Markets:

1) SAM (Mumbai and Delhi)

- Delhi saw mass attrition recently but still hasn't recruited people until now

- Mumbai is on a freeze

2) IndusLaw (Mumbai, Delhi, Bangalore)

- Mumbai is always hiring

- Delhi is terrible

- Bangalore is a small team and never loses talent

3) KCO (Mumbai, Noida, Bangalore)

- Mumbai is on a freeze; prefers laterals

- Noida is a good option

- Bangalore is a small team and never loses talent

4) CAM (Mumbai and Bangalore)

- Only does campus i.e. picks up toppers who are terrible with work/have no idea about ECM or picks up paralegals from GLC who are later given the offer

5) S&R (Mumbai and Delhi)

- Very very picky and top heavy; recruits the cream of the crop

6) Trilegal (Mumbai)

- Richa's team is on a freeze

- Bhakta's team has a very few mandates

7) JSA (Mumbai and Gurgaon)

- Sweatshop for law students tbh; will make you a "junior associate" which is a glorified paralegal job after 6 months of an assessment internship

- Prefers laterals over freshers

8) AZB (Mumbai and Noida)

- Mumbai has not lost talent

- Noida's dealmaking is non existent

8) Saraf (Mumbai), Luthra (Delhi), Bharucha (Mumbai)

- Very small team, very few mandates

9) SNG (Delhi), Rajani (Mumbai), CrawfordB (Mumbai)

- Lot of mid markets and small markets work; very very picky with PPOs

https://www.news18.com/viral/cancel-class-for-emotional-recovery-students-appeal-after-indias-world-cup-loss-is-all-of-us-8669100.html

😂😂😂

Internet slams Ahmedabad crowd for 'disrespecting' players during World Cup final
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https://www.indiatoday.in/trending-news/story/internet-slams-ahmedabad-crowd-for-disrespecting-players-during-world-cup-final-2465095-2023-11-20

My take

I suggest we don't make Gods out of cricket team in India. Imagine NZ and Aus loosing and not being accountable to 1.5 billion? I don't think Australia Law website like LI would have discussed their loss had they lost lmao.

We try to hide our failures in other sports by our attempts at silverware from our cricket which is no doubt world-class. But the added pressure just suppresses then even more and it's a vicious cycle.

Still feel Aus as a nation is one of the strongest mental sides across sports, it's in their culture. Sadly the Gujju crowd and Gujju state was in attendance only for photos and insta snaps, pure show of no cricketing heritage.

Note- If 2011 and period thereon has been a sign of rise of India as a cricketing superpower and yet it's Aus who has the WC twice, in such case we can assume India might still go on to dominate cricket for the next 100 years but what Aus has done for the last 100 till date is nothing short of legendary.

BCCI is a shambly run org and with the funds we have india should maybe have become undefeatable or v close to that, the funds distribution even in top 3 nations is vv vastly in our favour.

For me Rohit Sharma deserved the man of the tournament given his change in approach and he was the captain as well. Kohli again legendary but a tad selfish in several phases (didn't hurt the team thankfully).

Proud of Indian team and not the board, but the years of RCB fandom will surely help me cope this better.

No shame in accepting Aus > India in cricketing heritage and clutch performances from players who aren't treated as God but are nothing short of being one. We lose due to players worshipped as God but can't show up on festival due to everyone praying for their visits. :)

Loneliness in big cities is rampant but not often discussed. Travelling to new city means uprooting your life and starting afresh. It doesn't help that due to our 12 hour work schedules we don't get time to go out in the city and meet new people.

https://www.livemint.com/news/business-of-life/loneliness-in-the-city-1541394566948.html

You are mentally sprinting and probably dealing with 100 issues at your law firm job, so when you come back home, you need immediate respite, which is why several people often turn to drinking or other harmful activities. This gets worse when you see your peers/ friends having fun on Instagram while you are miserable at home.

Actionable advice: Join a yoga session, dance class or some cycling group. You can also try going for the weekend excursions organised by local groups (Several groups on Instagram - just search them)

The idea here is to join some group where:

1. You have a guide/ mentor actively teaching you and tracking your progress and checking up on you (unlike most seniors at law firms)

2. You have a peer group of your age with whom you can bond in a social casual setting, and talk about something apart from work (as corporate settings does not always allow us to let our guard down)

Keep these two things in mind, and I'm sure you will notice a mood shift.

All the best!

Hi

Hope this helps

1. Recruiters cannot help as they mostly post for vacancies from PQE 1,

2. Tap alumni network: Try reaching out to your college seniors and ask if there is vacancy for you in their team

3. Tap friend network: If you have friends from other colleges, ask them about vacancies in their team

4. Partner specific: If you have any particular partner in mind, try reaching out to the SA/ PA in the team. You may even try to directly email the partner (Not the best way, but I know people who have got in through this approach. If they reject you/ dont respond, you have nothing to lose)

5. In house: Lot of companies hire A0s for Inhouse, so you can try connecting with the legal counsels in In House positions to get a sense if they are hiring

All the best!

Fantastic work done by both the students, as well as the NLUD and GNLU ecosystem for supporting them, including fellow students, mentors, alum, admin and faculty. Why can't we just be happy for these people and acknowledge their excellence and be proud of them representing country and Indian law schools in the best of global forums? Have we gone that shallow? I really hope that these two go ahead and build upon their success and emerge as future legal scholars to reckon with. Wish I knew both personally, so that I could congratulate them personally.

Related:

https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/164466-book-recommendations-for-lawyers (personal suggestion, go to comments posted by 'teen baar' and 'wut')

https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/233228-reading-list-for-fy-law-students (++ for the comments regarding reading material on logic)

https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/185058-recommended-books-for-disputes

https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/246895-reading-list-for-freshers-to-law-school

https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/165851-do-corporate-lawyers-get-time-to-read-non-law-books-if-so-please-recommend-some-good-ones

https://www.livelaw.in/columns/the-reading-list-project-must-read-books-for-law-students-lawyers-159777

The current NLS alums on the bench were all appointed before DYC:

Shekhar Bobby Saraf (Calcutta HC)

Suraj Govindraj, MI Arun and Sunil Dutt Yadav (Karnataka HC)

Aditya Sondhi was also recommended but name was blocked by current Govt.

So it is an organic process which is bound to continue as more graduates establish themselves in the profession.

Congratulations Ayan and Zayaan!! Can anyone give us a profile of the two scholars? What will they be studying at Oxford? What kind of work have they done so far? What is their CV like? How many papers have they published, where all have they interned, what extra curricular activities. Did they have mentors and if yes, who? Thanks a lot in advance.

NLUD too gets 3rd Rhodes Scholar in prolific writer Ayan Gupta. NLUD has produced 3 Rhodes Scholars in a short span of 8 years, though none of these great scholars are from Kashmir. He also becomes the 1st boy from NLUD to bag the scholarship, Rishika was the first from NLUD, followed by Anupriya.

Two law students have been selected for the Rhodes India Scholarships 2024:

Ayan Gupta (NLU Delhi)

Mohammad Zayaan (GNLU)

Third Rhodes Scholarship for both NLU Delhi and GNLU. Previous Rhodes scholars from NLU Delhi and GNLU:

NLU Delhi

— Rishika Sahgal (2016)

— Anupriya Dhonchak (2021)

GNLU

— Sameer Rashid Bhat (2018)

— Hatim Hussain (2020)

Guys

Stop trolling with the coding bit.

No you don’t need any typing lessons. You will be at the desk for so long you everyday will end up typing fast. Rather invest in a good chair with lumbar support when working from home.

Okay, here’s what you need to know:

MS Excel

For law firms, if you’re in capital markets, you need to know MS Excel - just get familiar with adding text, numbers, tables. Excel has lot of automatic copy function where if you drag and drop, it can generate automatic serial numbering, can copy formulas across cells etc. (not advanced formulas) Having some practice of data entry in Excel is important as this can otherwise slow you down while working (it’s slightly different than typing in MS Word)

MS Word

Otherwise, lawyers mostly use MS Word.

Know how to change font size, para spacing, create tables, create numbered lists, alignment with the ruler etc.

You can Google the shortcuts used to copy paste, select entire para/ page etc, page up/ down

Law firm Task specific - for redlines - check Word Compare on MS Word/

Review docs - Split screen

Foreign firms - often use linked cross references for clause references in documents, so you can check Google that

MS PowerPoint

For client/ internal presentations - working knowledge- how to write text, create tables, shapes, add pictures etc.

All the best!

Hi mod,

Now that I read this in the morning, I see that my rant here appears to be quite childish and kinda misogynistic. You may mark this trollish, or do whatever action it is you do, because I don't want to start some gender war here or discount the struggles girls go through. Maybe it's me :)

Stop discouraging people. It's their life and they can decide what to do. You are no one to call their decision stupid. Mind your own damn business and answer if you can else leave!

For OP, I suggest you apply for assessment internships at T1 and T2 firms and of course law firms and chambers will definitely grab you (NLU Tag). All the best :)

To be very honest, high fees shouldn’t be an excuse for you to not opt for JD. First GET IN. Do you know how difficult it is for people to get into JD programmes in Js? Crack the lsat and you will receive several generous based grants amongst the T-15 law schools. Most of the people didn’t couldn’t even crack Clat, and they are lecturing you about JD? Two people from NUJS have done this and some from NLS. Only they could because they were able enough. Rest were happy to sing their praises but ofc they all had excuses.

For basic ideas: - https://www.hotcoursesabroad.com/india/find-your-course/how-to-choose-the-right-course/6-vital-facts-for-international-students-eyeing-american-law-courses/

There is another course in Northwestern University which provides accelerated JD. Again you need to have an amazing Lsat score to even knock the doors for this programme. This has been substantially discussed in LI as well but ofc the mediocrity showcased here won’t let you know that.

Some threads that can help you:-

https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/261752-jd-vs-llm-vs-mba-a-mega-thread-is-demanded

https://www.law.northwestern.edu/academics/degree-programs/jds/jd2/#:~:text=Northwestern%20Law%20is%20one%20of,for%20their%20foreign%20law%20degree.

One problem that you may face is the visa issue. So tailor your interview accordingly. Indian students apart from not being to crack lsat, faced another issue and that’s VISA.

Also LSAT as an exam is said to be (in American standards) more competitive/rigorous than GMAT. I hope this helped.

Lets break B&F into 3 parts (just like how transactions are broken into during negotiations) and then take up the folks doing great work across Indian law firms:

1) DCM and Structured Finance

- Manisha Shroff (KCO)

- Sonali Mahapatra (TT&A)

- Gopal Bankar, Nihas Basheer (Wadia Ghandy)

- Shubhangi Garg (SAM)

- Amit Aggarwal (SNG)

2) Project Finance

- Jatin Aneja, Deepto Roy (SAM)

- Hemant Sahai (HSA)

- Santosh Janakiram (CAM)

- Abhir Lal Dey (Saraf)

- Pallavi Bedi (Phoenix Legal)

3) General Banking/Consortium Work

- Kumar Singh Saurabh (KCO)

- Anand Shah, Gautam Ganjawala (AZB)

- Aashit Shah (JSA)

- Kannan Rahul (Trilegal)

- Karan Mitroo & Girish Rawat (L&L)

4) Derivatives

- Smrithi Nair (Juris Corp)

- Rahul Gulati (TT&A)

- Veena Sivaramkrishnan (SAM)

5) Insolvency & Restructuring

- Ashwin Bishnoi (KCO)

- Bikash Jhawar (Saraf)

- Nilang Desai, Suharsh Sinha (AZB)

- Siddharth Srivastava (KCO)

- Divyanshu Pandey (S&R)

6) Fintech

- Gowree Gokhale (NDA)

- Namita Vishwanath (IndusLaw)

- Probir Chowdhury (JSA)

- Rahul Matthan (Trilegal)

- Anu Tiwari (CAM)

Hope this helps!

Work: The work given to me was good. It also depends on how you do your assigned tasks. If the work submitted is a little substandard or incomplete, some folks stop giving you work/start giving it to another intern in the same team. They have good work coming in. Tax is one of the biggest teams. Work Culture: The work culture is generally good, people start leaving by 7:30-8:30 pm max, food, and office facilities are all good. People are decent and do not become abusive/irritated, patient in general and will take pains to explain as long as work is given on time (allows reasonable extensions). Weekends are off unless your team is working (not really).

PPO: They prefer lateral hiring. Interns are taken on a monthly basis and based on feedback/presentation or something may be called back as a paralegal and then a trainee associate. The chances of PPOs are less but not impossible.
Pay: Interns 10-12.5k not aware otherwise.

Graduating Batch'23, 3 Year LLB from JGLS, Do not go to Jindal, if you do not have contacts or that one uncle who knows people in the legal world. 70% of my batch mates got their own internships, (the ones they provide are abysmal usually NGOs, Content writing or small advocates ) PPOs were non-existent if you are not at least a 7.5/8. Very few companies came on Zero Day and even if they do come there is no guarantee that you are gonna be selected; 40 students compete for 4 positions except when it is mass recruitment like CAM or SAM. I'd say one thing though, if you have money take a drop and try for NLUs or better try some other decent law college like SLS or maybe as you still have time go for Tier 3 NLUs.

ORF

Indian Society of International Law

Centre for Policy Research

Carnegie India

Centre for Internet and Society

Asian African Legal Consultative Organisation

PRS Legislative Research

Migration and Asylum Project

Centre for Communications Governance

Human Rights Law Network

Naz Foundation

And many more which I can't recall at this moment

Hi, there is already a similar thread existing and it has been published already. Kindly limit your concerns/doubts there to avoid repetition.

https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/300654-topics-to-write-articles-about

So why don't you grow a pair, leave and set up your own thing instead of whining about the same thing over and over again? Please leave and let us be who are happy with his policy, which prevents people like you from flooding this place further with toxicity and political agenda.

honestly, you dont have good firm slots with career perspective.

1. SAM Mumbai is known to offer callbacks over callbacks and making offers at the end of 5th year/ mid 5th year, which again may or may not happen.

2. CAM Noida is very stringent with PPOs and doesnt usually hire (in this season, dont see them offering at all)

3. KCo Kolkata does NOT hire, shift to Mumbai ASAP

4. Online internships at a tier 3/4 is equal to none, they aint giving you work at all, assessing you tu dur ki baat hai

5. ICUL Funds- very stingy in PPO department

6. Singhania- pay too low, too many interns

Hi, I'm a fifth-year at Jindal and I'm set to join a T1 law firm after having recently secured a PPO. In all honesty, JGLS has great academics and opportunities but if you need to take a loan, then you should ideally avoid enrolment. You can still make it big by paying a lesser fee and hopefully joining good NLUs or private universities like Symbi & Christ.

One thing I can guarantee about Jindal is that the opportunities are endless but it's all about what you seek to achieve at law school. Jindal offers electives that are far better than any other law school in the country. Our faculty is known to be the best. Our placements are of course not great when you consider the entire batch strength but its necessary to note that not everyone joins Jindal to secure a job in law, a lot of students just need degrees to carry on their family businesses. While a lot has been said about distractions and ROI, I truly believe that you can do well at Jindal but that would probably be true about any law school. All of it boils down to your efforts.

All-in-all, if you need to take out a 30L loan, then avoid enrolment, you can succeed at other colleges like Symbi & Christ. All the best!

Hi, two months are enough to crack CLAT/AILET. Don’t lose hope.

In regards to your second question, I guess the following threads can be of immense help: -

https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/160181-is-it-worth-taking-a-loan-to-study-at-jgls-or-save-for-an-llm

https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/265788-lsat-results-announced-still-wise-to-join-jindal

https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/234788-worth-taking-risk-of-10-15-lakh-9-education-loan-to-continue-at-sls-pune

https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/175083-scholarships-at-jindal

Hi, you may approach Himmat - an organisation that aids college students who face sexual harassment with legal consultancy pro bono. The consultants are all professionals in this sphere and have experience working on such matters. Please check out this link if you would like to explore this further https://www.safecollegespaces.com/free-legal-consultancy-copy

Sis, I tried in my first year (which isn’t over btw) to publish in this journal. They didn’t revert back. Indiacorplaw doesn’t work for first years. It strictly chooses from the 3rd year to researchers. Regardless, topics like insolvency, transnational banking laws and grey areas in NCLAT can help you understand the nuances. Good luck.

Senior/Equity Partner - Bringing the mandates and bootlicking the clients.

Salaried/Junior Partner - Strategizing the execution of the mandate and attending client calls.

PA/Counsel - Answerable to the salaried/senior partners and handle the entire deal execution.

SA - Answerable/give the 80% finished deliverables to the PA/Counsel who handle the rest after back and forth with the salaried partners.

Associate - Due diligence, research, filing and execution.

Intern (Merit) - Assist the associates with the research/due diligence. Not given filing and execution work unless they are on assessment basis due to confidentiality of the deal.

Intern (Contacts) - Mostly their parents are the clients so they go for multiple rounds of coffee, 100 smoke breaks and are later given the PPO.

If you are OMS ( outside Maharashtra Category),

Then, under All India Rank 70 you can expect GLC/ILS.

Cutoff drastically changes in MHCET, and as OMS carries only 24-24 seats in GLC and ILS, so work hard and ace it.

Cut off marks trend past years:

2019: 110-112

2020- 112

2021- 127 ( As exam was very easy, they asked questions like, "Taj mahel is situated on which river")

2022- 110

Above cut off marks are for OMS, MHCET is a game of luck for OMS. No matter how much you are prepared, but this is what it is.

(I've prepared for various Law entrance, and got a rank of Under 50 in MHCET 2022, however, I gave this exam in 2021 as well, and even was more serious back then, but didn't got GLC bcz of 127 marks cutoff for OMS)

2. Never join any other college, except GLC/ILS. Even think twice before these two too.

Have a nice day.

The onlyway to get better at both of these is to practise. Read more and you will find it getting easier. Start with simpler stuff and then up the game as you feel more confident. I would suggest like this:

Short, easy article

Long, easy article

Short, more complex article

Longer, more complex article

Etc etc

Same thing for writing. I found writing case commentaries to be useful practice. Even if you don't publish them your writing will improve and you will learn some more law in the process.

Here is the link of the shortlisted applicants. You can count how many of them applied and simultaneously shortlisted, and in the end how many got selected :) (the selections are stated above)

https://www.adityabirlascholars.net/shortlisted-aditya-birla-scholars-2024/

https://www.adityabirlascholars.net/shortlisted-aditya-birla-scholars-2024/

This is the first time they are participating. And they did participate and knocked out NLIU and Nujs and right ahead.

Alright folks so let’s dive deep into the analysis. As per their official website, they have only launched the website of shot listed candidates (for now) but the winners are announced very recently.

NLSIU as usual bagged the highest number of ABS scholarships (5 out of 7- not bad)

NALSAR and NLUJ remained pretty consistent. So as GNLU

Congrats NLU Delhi for making it into the first time in ABS.

What’s shocking is that around 6 people applied for the NUJS ABS scholarship and none of them got one! What went wrong? Maybe someone can explain.

All in all meritorious students getting selected day by day. Good job!

Some more of them:

2:30 Manshoor Nazki, Cap marks partner at Indus.

2:30 and 18:00 Sandhya Surendran, Partner at BTG.

3:08 Sowmya Kumar, Partner at Indus

3:52 Brajendu Bhaskar, Cap marks Partner at Trilegal

3:58 Nikhil Chary, Corp Partner at Addleshaw

5:10 Manish Agarwal, Partner at Three Crowns

8:10 Neha Mahyavanshi - GC, Syngene

10:14 Shehryar Khanum, Ex-CAM, Entrepreneur.

10:25 Abhinav Shankar, GC, Dvara Holdings

11:00 Sneha Jha, Counsel, Golub Capital

11:18 Aditi Singh, Associate Partner, Dalberg

20:08 Vidhu Gupta, Linklaters

This is the first time and the first year that NLUD has been part of this scholarship. Previously, our refusal to join CLAT pre-empted our students from even applying. There will be more of these scholars in the future. It looks as if all the “tier-1” NLUs are now part of this, except NLIU.

Your advice is rock solid. But at the same time, it’s much difficult to get into NUS and it’s wayyy more competitive than UK colleges. It’s cheaper and much more convenient for Indians. However the whole world is running behind NUS law nowadays. It’s in top 7 and arguably has a good research base. There needs to be some differentiating factor in your written test and CV to get into NUS. Best!

NUS comparatively will be a much better (again my personal opinion) option. It’s tough to get into considering the acceptance rate for their flagship UG law course.

I will suggest OP to consider NUS after Oxbridge/UCL. The application link is provided above. Prepare all and all the best for Clat!

Let me help you. Some are designated. Some aren't. Each of them are exceptionally good.

Rajshekhar Rao

Dayan Krishnan

Jayant Mehta

Tanmaya Mehta or his younger brother

Satyajit Sarna

Diya Kapur

Shyel Trehan

Balaji Subramanian

Samar Bansal

Aman Ahluwalia

Karan Lahiri

Aditya Vijaykumar and his wife

Anand Varma

ok, let us look at an avg russell group uni - Durham, it has good TCs, good infra and good teachers, its in the north of the UK, has good alumni base,

Tuition per annum is £25,750 (https://www.durham.ac.uk/study/courses/law-m101/#fees-and-funding) and cost of living would be £9000, so cost per year should be budgeted at £35000, so the total cost in 3 years would be 1.05 crore INR, there will be some India specific scholarships but nothing will bring it down to half of the cost

the problem with pursuing UG in the UK is low availability of scholarships, they are few and far between for international students. There are some unis which have UG scholarships for international student where they reduce it to the UK level of £9250 pa, but there is no consolidated list and these are dependent on individual schools so you should look at each school and have a chat with the admissions tutor at all LNAT schools and ask them if they would have a scholarship or partial fee waivers.

This is an incredibly helpful comment. The following link can help the OP to a certain extent as well!

https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/264496-guidance-uk-law-schools-lnat

I presume you are applying to oxbridge as well (keep an eye out for their deadline, which is ahead of the regular UCAS deadlines). If you are considering a TC at the end, have a look at https://www.chambersstudent.co.uk/where-to-start/newsletter/law-firms-preferred-universities

In the US, law is a PG subject, so only possible after 4 years of UG

Your goals matter a lot in choosing the place where you want to study UG law, do you want to settle there? do you want to come back to India? do you want to be a solicitor or a barrister? how much can you spend? etc.

I know a person who was supposed to get a AIR under 70 in both of his attempts but messed up badly in his OMR due to him being casual. Dude’s giving the exam again this year. Look out for him. He studied only for couple of days (and I ain’t even kidding). The thing is that the exam is tough but for some people focus becomes their deadly force to crack these exams.

Totally disagree. I know at least two of my friends who gave IIT and CLAT at the same time but failed to get an NLU, but did get a lower IIT. I also know one senior from my law school who made it to an IIT and yet chose law. You need to study properly for CLAT, it's not like you studied PCM the whole year and get up one fine morning on the day of CLAT exam and go on cracking it.

You burn out when you go against your values, your nature, your long-term self interest

You are doing this to gain some short-term trade-off, but your core is revolting

I will advise you that you take some time to introspect and find what you really want to do instead of blaming an entire industry as toxic etc

There are people who will thrive in the same environment, let them

Don't put the responsibility on outside factors, it is your responsbility to discover what suits your own constitution

You look at yourself and introspect about what is the environment where you will thrive and find that

Then act with conviction

I wish you all the best :)

I just finished reading it and seriously, what an incredibly well-written book! I genuinely cannot imagine how someone without a formal training or background in literature can write such prose.

Take a bow Shishir. The trolls will find something to snipe at you with, but I hope you write on. So proud that a practicing lawyer wrote it.

Your ignorance level is astonishing! Only matched by your confidence in spreading fake news. There was no process for opting for BA or BSc LLB degrees at NUJS in the beginning, so no question of students not opting for it. The degree that you would get would depend on the majority of the elective papers that you would opt for. Many students have got the BSc LLB degree till the 2011 batch. That's when BCI said that you need to have lab training etc. and core science subjects to give that degree any more. Which is what's happening right now. There are several faculty from core science and forensic sciences background at NUJS now teaching such subjects, including guest faculty from institutes like IIT and IISER, the Central Forensic Lab in Kolkata has tied up with the university to offer its facilities to the students and a new lab is being constructed within the university too. All this is of course way above your pay grade as a professional troll, so go home and rest in peace, clutching your meagre troll tax.

I know several people this year who bagged nls within a month’s study and opted for Brown/Duke and that too in varied science majors. You can even check their SAT scores which were brilliant.

Then there is Somesh taori who cracked Oxford the same year he cracked clat (AIR 83)

Here is the "Where are They Now"

At 2.29 and 5.08, that's Alok Prasanna, Co-Founder, Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy

At 2.55, that's Divya Mundra, M&A Partner at AZB.

At 7.47, that's Priyanka Dahiya, public policy with the World Health Organization in Geneva

At 8.18 to 8.40, that's Suhasini Sen, very successful supreme court advocate.

At 8.45, that's Shivaji Bhattacharya - Counsel, IFC (previously Partner at S&R)

At 9.45, that's Sayantan Datta - Partner at SAM, At 9.46, Shreya Rao, Partner at AZB,

At 9.47 Pathik Gandhi - Partner at Linklaters, London

At 11.04, Yasha Kumar - GC of Innoterra

At 12.45, the moot court team:

Mihira Sood, Prof of Law at NLU Delhi; Executive Director, Centre for Child Rights, NLU Delhi

Anuradha Agnihotri, Herbert Smith, London (previously Partner at Trilegal in Bangalore)

Rohan Kaul, Asia-Pacific GC of Restaurant Brands International (previously at Freshfields and Simpson Thacher in New York/ London)

At 13.30, Mahfooz Nazki (very successful Supreme Court Advocate). Still a heartthrob!

At 16.50, that's Nandini Ravichandran, Pro-bono work in New York

It's the later. You have no idea about how the right focus can help you and transform you into a beast. Many high IQ people don't realize their abilities just because they get distracted easily..i saw a guy from NIT Tirchy acing CAT and XAT just studying for a week. He did not focus much on his coaching at Times but when he did study, it was about his dominance. Studying 3 hours and utilizing quality focus within that specific time is much more beneficial than slogging for 10-11 hours and barely focusing on vital practice.

Actually no. The guy attempted CLAT the same year he sat for the JEE exam (the one where you get a IISC rank) without zero prep (can't blame cause the former is really tough as you mentioned) and yet he couldn't pass. Next attempt he just studied for 2 weeks and made into NLS. This was quite surprising. I did not believe this at first but he did show signs of photographic memory which stunned some of us.

I agree. This was great fun to read. As someone who is ignorant about corporate lawyers and what they do, I found this glimpse into their inner workings quite illuminating, to say the least. The fact that it uses humour so effectively is what makes this book a winner!

Each story pivots around Edamarra Edwin and his detective-style approach to solving problems; but while each story is a separate episode, with its own thrills, together they all cumulatively reveal a lot about its enigmatic protagonist and the world he inhabits.

At least read the book before deeming it a rant.

As a corporate lawyer, I found the book quite enjoyable and thought that the solutions found in each story were quite brilliant. A partners job is to know the law but to also know the situation better so as to apply and bend it as required to meet the client's requirements. Overall a very good read I thought although one does need to keep a dictionary at hand!

I would recommend TNNLU above all the other NLUs mentioned there. I know a couple of people from NLU Assam and DNLU, they have been complaining endlessly about the campus and stuff. TNNLU is doing way better in terms of placements and the campus is also pretty good. You may add your preference list as below;

NLS, NALSAR, NUJS, NLUJ, GNLU

NLIU, RGNUL, HNLU, RMLNLU, NUALS, NLUO

TNNLU, CNLU, MNLU(mumbai),

DNLU, DSNLU, Nagpur and others - instead of joining those lower than MNLU mumbai, you can join any pvt unis like JGLS or Symbi or Christ.

Reading List – Securities Law

Books

1. Securities Regulation: A Primary Market Offerings (1st Ed.) By Anil Chaudhary, Rajnesh Deka.

2. Fraud, Manipulation & Insider Trading in the Indian Securities Market By Sandeep Parekh.

3. Regulatory Mechanism for the Capital Market in India By Abhishek Mishra.

4. Agrawal & Baby on SEBI Act: A Legal Commentary on Securities Exchange Board of India Act, 1992 By Sumit Agrawal and Robin Joseph Baby.

5. Securities Laws & Capital Markets, ICSI Module, CS Executive Programme By Institute of Company Secretaries of India (ICSI).

6. Handbook on Securities Laws, By Gaurav N Pingle

Newspapers

1. Financial Express

2. Business Standard

3. Economic Times

4. Moneycontrol Pro

5. TheCapTable

Journals & Blogs

1. The Indian Review of Corporate & Commercial Laws

2. Centre for Business & Financial Laws, NLU-D.

3. Centre for Business & Commercial Laws, NLIU Bhopal

4. India Corp Law

5. Indian Journal of Research in Capital Markets

6. Journal on Corporate Law & Commercial Regulations

Magazines

1. SEBI & Corporate Laws: An Insolvency & Company Law Fortnightly: Taxmann

2. Corporate Professionals Today

Certifications

1. NISM Series I: Currency Derivatives Certification Examination

2. NISM Series II A: Registrars and Transfer Agents (Corporate) Certification Examination

3. NISM Series II B: Registrars and Transfer Agents (Mutual Fund) Certification Examination

4. NISM Series-III-A: Securities Intermediaries Compliance (Non-Fund) Certification Examination

5. NISM Series IV: Interest Rates Derivatives Certification Examination

6. NISM Series V A: Mutual Fund Distributors Certification Examination

7. NISM-Series V-B: Mutual Fund Foundation Certification Examination

8. NISM Series VI: Depository Operations Certification Examination

9. NISM Series VII: Securities Operations and Risk Management Certification Examination

10. NISM-Series-VIII: Equity Derivatives Certification Examination

11. NISM Series-IX: Merchant Banking Certification Examination

12. NISM-Series-X-A: Investment Adviser (Level 1) Certification Examination

13. NISM-Series-X-B: Investment Adviser (Level 2) Certification Examination

14. NISM Series-XII: Securities Markets Foundation Certification Examination

15. NISM Series-XIII: Common Derivatives Certification Examination

16. NISM Series-XV: Research Analyst Certification Examination

17. NISM-Series-XVI: Commodity Derivatives Certification Examination

18. NISM-Series-XVII: Retirement Adviser Certification Examination

19. NISM-Series-XVIII: Financial Education Certification Examination

20. NISM Series XIX-A: Alternative Investment Funds (Category I and II) Distributors

21. NISM-Series-XIX-B: Alternative Investment Funds (Category III) Distributors

22. NISM-Series-XX-Taxation in Securities Markets

23. NISM Series XXI-A: Portfolio Management Services (PMS) Distributors

24. NISM Series XXI-B: Portfolio Managers

25. NISM Series XXII: Fixed Income Securities

26. NISM-Series-XXIII: Social Auditors

Law Firm Publications

1. Amit Desai & Co.: Knowledge -> Newsletter

2. Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas: India Corporate Law

3. Vinod Kothari Consultants

a. Resources- Financial Services

b. Resources- Capital Markets

c. Resources- Corporate Laws

4. Trilegal: Knowledge Repository -> Advanced Search: Capital Markets, Financial Regulatory

5. NDA Hotline

a. Capital Markets Hotline

b. Regulatory Hotline

c. Regulatory Digest

d. Companies Act Series

e. Corpsec Hotline

What’s your point?

You need to calm down and listen to some Arctic Monkeys: -

https://open.spotify.com/track/0DKvcH4SCRdhVYTxStKx9h?si=jNLnHfheSTKYyQDY__mVHA

Here you go 🤌

NLSIU still leads by a mile, in terms of faculty quality and alumni achievements. High time other NLUs:

a) Step up hiring of good-quality alumni as faculty

b) Encourage students to pursue meaningful, non-corporate careers.

https://www.latestly.com/agency-news/india-news-centre-nominates-justice-s-muralidhar-8-others-as-members-to-nalsa-5537767.html

> You can't stay in a country and jeopardise its relations with other countries by adopting a different stance.

Shouldn't the international relations of a democratic country be influenced and take into consideration the will and the wishes of the people? Isn't that the whole point of a protest? To make one's voice heard?

You may disagree with the actual political stance here but you can't possible in good faith argue that no one should be allowed to voice dissenting opinions.

so that would mean not only the firms purchasing costly subscriptions but also feeding client data (usually incredibly illegal and unethical shit) into these sites? Dude firms are able to hire people at 8% of the amount they make the firm and then keep them there and scare them with NDAs, why will any employer change that. What happened to self driving cars Musk?

Tales from the AbusrdLet's not forget that familiarity is the architect of all our contempt in life. In this illusory world of social media, your affections are as one-sided as a debate in an echo chamber. Take it from one who has sailed these killing fields. On my maiden voyage into the tempestuous seas of digital romance—courtesy of the dating app. I too was smitten by a digital deity whose profile was a symphony of aesthetic pleasure and adventurous pursuits. It almost seemed like a match made in heaven brought together by the whims of the ‘bumbly’ algorithm. It was our mutual preference for ‘Infernal Affairs’ over the Scorsese's remake that did the trick for me.

Our textual dalliance of wit and words culminated in a rendezvous amidst the colonial charm of Colaba. Yet, alas, it was not the face but the intent that was the grand illusion. My enchantress, it turned out, had a very real-world script in mind, with a twist that would have made Mr M. Night Shyamalan blush. I was quoted a clear-cut tariff of Rs. 8000/-, a friend’s price (it seems), for the desired company in the locale of my choosing.

The chivalrous (and almost broke) budding lawyer that I was, I found myself quickly mulling over the fiscal dynamics of this amorous enterprise. With masterful sleight of hand, I furtively inspected the meager contents of my wallet, followed by a fleeting glance at my banking app beneath the table's shroud. But the coffers of a budding legal eagle aren't exactly the stuff of fortunes. As the negotiation unfolded, I found myself in the throes of an absurdist play, where the cost of courtship had been unveiled devoid of any sentimental baggage.

So there I was, retreating to my grand 1 RK, poorer by Rs. 5000/- and my dreams of love punched in the gut. I couldn't help but snicker at the joke life had just played on me. In this bizarre bazaar of ‘lou’, buyers are to beware.

𝐎𝐮𝐫 𝐰𝐞𝐛𝐬𝐢𝐭𝐞 𝐡𝐚𝐬 𝐛𝐞𝐞𝐧 𝐡𝐚𝐜𝐤𝐞𝐝 𝐨𝐫 𝐦𝐢𝐬𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐥𝐞𝐝 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐰𝐞 𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐫𝐞𝐜𝐞𝐢𝐯𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐮𝐧𝐧𝐞𝐜𝐞𝐬𝐬𝐚𝐫𝐲 𝐡𝐚𝐭𝐫𝐞𝐝: www.BaruthaLLP.com

We have started out in 2019 just as an unregistered partnership firm to provide M&A consultancy only (Copy has been provided to cyber police). We got some clients & decide to start LLP business in 2022 only. In 2022 our website was very organic & simple looking created using google sites (Our hosting server & Godaddy domain details provided to Cyber police already) but we have decided to start full-fledged Law firm only this year in october (Our client details & services we have provided to our geniune clients already submitted to police). In last week of october 2023 we have hired a coder or IT expert to create a proper website for our firm with name barutha&barutha.com but he advised us that he can convert our old www.BaruthaLLP.com website into good looking portal in 1 day, with small fee charge. On 28th october, we have asked him to create a career section for some hiring of 10 employees only but he superficialy created large opportunities for which we have emailed him to delete it (We have supplied this email copy to cyber police also) but he replied, do not worry i will delete it & i am just checking the portal efficiency. You guys can also check our Managing partner linkedin page he had also posted about job opening but didn't mention any superficial number. After 10-20 minutes, he then uploaded some fake pictures & profiling of team members and this is the moment we came to know that he has misused us. Even he got the linkedin access of our partners because he wanted to do some social media integration with website and changed some of the Linkedin's profile pictures of our partners without seeking consent (Abuse report from linkedin is submitted to cyber police). We have emailed hi again & he again replied that some fake pictures will be better for attraction (Copy of email has been supplied to cyber police). We have asked him to delete it immediately and handover the email id & password to us but he never replied (Copy of email supplied to cyber police). He even managed to changed the linkedin password of one of our partner. Moreover Mobile number he has provided to us went unreachable. He started threating us that if we don't pay him 10 Bitcoin as ransom he will ruin our career completely. And he did it successful. On legallyIndia platorm everyone is showing hatred to us & even we have received so many hatred emails. we initially ignored this and started taking actions to strike down the site. We now came to know that he is from sri lanka. We have been honestly doing our work from last 4 years and have some GST, M&A and taxation clients. Why we will do this to damage ourselves. What can we achieve by creating a fake superficial website. It all happened so quickly that we were in chaos. We have now decided to file Criminal FIR and Court Case to proceed further. Even that hacker is constantly updating our page and seeking ransom. Our 4 years of silent hardwork completely ruined now. We are afraid that none of our partners might take a wrong step on his/her life. We want all the members please do not spread hatred. please listen our side too. Thank you !!

(𝐔𝐫𝐠𝐧𝐞𝐭 𝐑𝐞𝐩𝐨𝐫𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐠) We are a small law firm with 5 partners only (all are Indians & their linkedin Ids are available). None of other ids belong to us except few names. Website was temporarily created with Google Sites. Our Google Sites's id was mishandled or hacked the very moment we have launched it. We suspect that this has been done by the same person whom we have hired to design the basic version of this google sites. We have already reported this matter to Google & Cyber Police and Today we are going to file an FIR too. We have also update about this incident on our Linkedin Page. Since then someone is running a malafide campaign against us on all platforms & even sending us abusive mails in different languages. we don't know why? Cyber police has tracked down 44 ip locations & matter is under investigation. We have made Hundreds of efforts to get our site down asap. We have also mailed to Legally India platform regarding this thread created by someone & posting anonymously. We have not cheated anyone as of now. Neither our intention was to cheat anyone. How can anyone suppose to cheat with law firm site. Cheating can be done by various ponzi investment schemes easily and law firms can only function as long as they have trustful clients. How can anyone expect that revealing a founder name & email address & even a basic website, we have intention to cheat anyone. Is it a crime to start law firm? Even on this Legally India platform some guest users running a fake post with full hatred like the founder is a hedge fund manager or living in the US or married to an American lawyer. We have decided to proceed with Criminal FIR & Court case now to get this google site down & will surely find one who was running all this fake thing. At the last, we are just a small law firm who was thinking to go big & thats why we hired someone to create a website but he advised us to create Google site as it will take only 1 day to launch. We have all the details of payment receipt made to him, Email conversations & same has been supplied to Cyber Police. We are requesting this thread users please do not spread hatred.

At our end, we don't track IP addresses on LI either, we only record an obfuscated and encrypted IPs that looks like this in your case, for example, and which is also not a completely unique identifier:



Further, this pseudonymous IP encryption key gets reset and thrown away every 24-48 hours, so even if we were really clever and really wanted to we couldn't deduce your actual IP from this after a day or two.

Of course, end of the day, you kind of have to trust us on this and despite our measures to safeguard your anonymity and using an encrypted https connection, it's theoretically probably possible for tracking at your ISP, law school, firm or Pegasus-spying or NSA level to deduce posts that you make.

In short, if you're really really really worried about this or you're leaking state secrets, probably don't use the internet, or if you are, use a VPN and/or Tor and other measures to protect your anonymity...

I'm incredibly proud of the Gen Z lot that are now taking up A0-A1 positions in firms for creating actual change that we late millennials couldn't. It took so much out of my life and soul to make Partner at a T1 and now I am envious of the freshers who have the guts to stand up to exploitation and say no. My team has seen improved hours and better management of work expectations ever since we've had to deal with high attrition from freshers who simply refuse to sacrifice their sleep and health for arbitrary deadlines. What was annoying at first has actually led to institutional change that I couldn't make happen in my time.

To youngsters reading this: 70 hours is a joke. Do your 40, go live your life. Your parents are the youngest now they will ever be, your relationships still stand a chance and your back pains haven't set in yet. Hustle and grind but never at a personal cost. Cheers to your generation and thanks from mine.

https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/295062-kerala-bomb-blasts-convention-centre-adjacent-to-nuals-kochi-attacked#comment-295130

There is already an ongoing discussion regarding this very issue.

There have been a lot of precedents for nls and its dominance in consultancy.

Here’s an article: - https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/jobs/cos-make-a-beeline-for-national-law-school-graduates/articleshow/5574180.cms

NALSAR/Nujs also did well later on.

Incidentally Kabir and Arvind were school classmates at Joseph's before they got into NLS. Arvind has spoken in an interview with NLS student zine about how Kabir was a great ally and helped him with his coming out process. Kabir is now an IL honcho and works with a UN agency.

Their degrees are much more interdisciplinary and inter-related so it’s not impossible for employers to hire them. Plus yes their college offers a lot of streamlined electives concerning finance/tech (not scam courses like our indigenous colleges) which will enhance the knowledge of a person and will make him/her employable even if their background is more humanities-oriented. In UK even if you have a different degree- you still can make your portfolio finance oriented if you want. Here a BA from a mere DU (even if it’s Stephens, the metric of employability is low and a MBA is required) will not properly prepare you for a desk job at Goldman. Maybe SRCC is an exception but only to a certain extent.

Hi mate. So first of well Ba from a Hindu college is nice. But if you want to do a BALLB degree with it, it’s not gonna be a train wreck, rather a unique career trajectory. In nujs and nalsar, there are a lot of people who did a general BA degree first (although they dropped out later on) and then cracked clat to become a lawyer. This one GNLU person completed his bachelors from Hansraj and then pursued a BALLB. They all are in terrific places now. Especially one of them is in a Magic Circle Firm.

My point is that if you are decided about law, make sure you crack the top 5 and then get your degree. There will be no remedy if you join other nlus. Maybe HNLu will also work. So prep well

Since clat is unpredictable, buck up your attitude for MBa as well (CAT is tougher but there are better MBA colleges in totality than law) for a backup. You need to smoothly transition into law. And if that means law firm, then you are on a right path. Your degree is your strength not weakness. There are a lot of people out there who did the same thing. Some other person suggested to take the CUET five year llb as well. Not bad! Keep your options open. Maybe give ailet so that you don’t miss the Delhi culture.

Hi guys, would appreciate some help here. I am a student of a top 5/top 6 NLU. I want an internship with an MP on my CV as I want to apply for scholarships abroad. I know that past Rhodes, Chevening, Felix, DAAD etc scholars have done such internships. Plus, I need variety on my CV as it's too corp law focused.

I am personally a political conservative and BJP supporter, but I want to intern with a left-liberal INDIA alliance opposition MP as that gives more credibility when applying abroad. I also want to intern with an English-speaking MP, as English is the only language I am comfortable working in. I made the shortlist below. I had Mahua Moitra and Praful Patel as well, but I have removed Mahua as she is likely to be expelled and Patel because he is about to join the BJP.

Any suggestions on who I can add to the shortlist? Also, more importantly, how do I apply? Do I just call/email their office? Is an NLU tag enough? Do I need to go through a contact?

- Shashi Tharoor

- AM Singhvi

- KTS Tulsi

- Raghav Chaddha

- Gaurav Gogoi

- Derek O'Brien

- Priyanka Chaturvedi

- Manish Tewari

- Karti Chidambaram

Absolutely! Adding to this, for general courses NUS had a maximum credit transfer limit of 12. But for law/medicine it’s the double. So you can spend well more than two years.

Imagine this- NLS+NUS….Employers and Rhodes will have an org**m to say the least.

Also the accelerated JD programme at Northwestern is pretty good (although good GPA and excellent lsat scores).

Check this one: - https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/261752-jd-vs-llm-vs-mba-a-mega-thread-is-demanded

As a former mooter and current moot judge I would offer the following:

1. Read your memorials well. Some if not most judges have looked at them beforehand so you need to be on top of your argument.

2. Make eye contact with the judges - if there is more than one, keep switching. Observe our reactions closely - most of us are not pokerfaces and you will be able to tell if we're bored or find your argument interesting.

3. Elocute, don't read. If you merely read out your memorial it reflects rather poorly - why have an oral round then? You should have the outline of your argument in your head and only refer to the memorial or notes for support (say, a citation). It helps if you draw judges' attention to specific paragraphs or parts of the memorial - it shows us that you know your submissions.

4. Don't get flustered when you're asked questions. Practice with a friend beforehand on this. If you need a moment, ask for permission and take one - we won't pounce.

5. If you're doing a rebuttal or sur-rebuttal you need to engage with the opposite side's argument and provide a convincing response. Focus on the parts of the memorial they bring up during their oral arguments.

1) Look at everything from the firm's perspective wrt client management and deliverable execution

2) Although T1 law firms are lala setups where your attire/smell/bags/watches will be things which your peers, partners and clients will judge you for; be modest with your expenditure in your first 3 years but remember to look sharp and not shabby or loud.

3) Function like a team, help your peers out with bulky assignments, seek feedbacks and most importantly make sure the client and reporting partners notice your contribution during meetings - all of this will be factored during promotions.

4) Remember that not all your team members can be trusted as colleagues, simply stay away from office politics, bitching about people and opening up about personal details since you never know what goes against you in any given moment. In this regard, avoid too many smoke breaks and don't find an excuse to abuse alocohol in your system during team/deal closing dinners.

5) Lastly, do not ever get too close to an intern; if you know what I mean.

Totally possible! But for law and medicine you have different transfer windows and the GPA accepted is significantly higher for both of these courses. So make sure you fulfil the eligibility and criteria. As of now NLS does have a basic MOU with NUS. So if you are from there, I guess it MAY work. All the best!

https://www.nus.edu.sg/oam/apply-to-nus/transfer-applicants

I am from MNLU Mumbai. No clue why we get so much hate but ok. In 2023 25 people got a job at T1 and T2 out of a batch of 58. 2024 batch has 120 students and 10 have already secured PPOs, some are doing their call back internships. The current PPOs range from 10 LPA to 22 LPA. do let me know if you need more information.

Context?

For instance my parents kicked me out on my birthday. I have no incentive to lie here. It was a rough time and I was barely 19 at that time. I did odd jobs (like waiting tables, helping in plantation drives, sweeping sometimes and funded my law school like that). I won’t mention the batch and which nlu to keep my anonymity intact. I did academically well and till only two frnds know about this. I also got decent scholarships from college to flourish. Currently working at a tier-1 in Mumbai. I still did bartending as I didn’t want to forget my roots of struggle and tbh I will restart it again.

What I am saying is that no one will give a damn. So instead of coming on legally india and asking about a recourse- find out where you are good at (assuming you are a law student, pardon for undermining the sample viewership of LI), do odd jobs(trust me it helps the economy and respects those who are in the profession), and maybe for your own mental health- don’t contact your parents. But if you have already reconciled (which should be the primary step anyway) then it’s good.

Just to intervene politely. Clat has become annoyingly unpredictable so good mock scores are not a way to judge your good outcome. So instead of worrying about your age (which isn’t that big of a deal trust me) prepare well. The people in your boat may have given clat again and failed to crack it. That’s why the silence :). Just an educated observation and I love your determination.

All the best brother! Any help you need, you can text here.

Sometime age gap happens due to even one month! Does anyone question that? NO! No one cares brother. Even if you announce it on mic, then also everyone won’t judge you. Because it normal. Also lemme tell you an interesting incident.

One of frnds had to undergo a 2.5 year drop (clat happened 6 months early last year and this year as well for 2024) due to his silly OMR mistakes. He was a tad bit concerned about him being around 19-20. But some students informed him that it was very common and in fact entering law school around 19.5-20 has become streamlined to a substantial extent now. He cracked clat with a flying score, bagged tier-1 and no one even questioned about his age. But he did get a lot of hype (more than me) because of his result. He even cracked lnat and bagged a decent scholarship to go to a decent UK Uni. He became more famous. Use this situation to your advantage not as an unnecessary burden.

Hey all, op here.

Thanks everyone who responded. I have read the threads that people have referenced here. You all have helped me gain a little perspective and have eased my worries to an extent. While I still have a few things to be concerned about, I will no longer dwell on my age (as a commenter said I'm not "prehistoric" afterall haha).

I also feel well enough to fill the registration form.

And if I clear clat, just know that your encouraging words helped me gather enough strength to do it.

Thankyou folks.

Age is never an issue bro. In fact in one of our junior batches a lot of 19-20 aka droppers are there. They haven’t turned 21 yet but they will be like after 7-8 months. An 18 year old will also turn 19 after the aforementioned duration. Why/How does it matter? It’s a five year course. There are a lot of precedents. You may not find someone in the same boat but in nujs and in fact nls as well (my bff is from there) you have a lot of overachievers who are from your age bracket. No 19-20 year old is even a ‘old’ student. They are quite young. 21 can be a bit old but again nowadays even that has become common. And trust me this age is nothing.

In fact one of the graduates whose age range was 24-25 got a good LLM scholarship plus now working at a magic circle.

Plus you can offset some credits after an exchange, get extra credit to reduce a semester (you may participate in an international moot and can have it evaluated - it happened with one of our junior batches) and even perform brilliantly well to spend the final year at a foreign Uni to negate the factor of ‘being old’. This can be a good ripple effect. But honestly you are relatively young. My advice would have worked for a 23-24 old incoming student (although I will never judge them) but you still have time. I don’t know why y’all are getting worked up for this.

At your age people care too much about age. I have worked in a US law firm. At 35 years of age someone is still a senior associate, while someone else just made partner. Even back when I was in class xii, I vividly remember the age gap being three years between the youngest and the eldest in the same class. It;s fine bro, don't try to confirm to societal standards of being in a particular age group to achieve a particular milestone. Also apart from what has been pointed above, there is one more beautiful answer by another Nalsar alum on graduating at 25 from Nalsar. I am sure if you put in the right key words you will find it. Now when I am 35 I really see 25 as very young. Nothing wrong in graduating at 25 from a T1 school. Nothing wrong in graduating even at 30 from anywhere for that matter.

https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/263287-should-i-take-a-partial-drop-or-not-after-nluo

There is a very beautiful response (and ofc others as well) by a graduate (current student my bad) from NALSAR. As you already know that till 20/20+ the first year is pretty much secure and normal as well. But don’t worry. There will be a couple of people who will be/who already were 21 when they entered law school. I can understand the anxiety. When I joined law school around a year back, I was 20. I had a ‘phew’ reaction because I wasn’t 21 yet- so I wouldn’t feel old. But honestly that’s quite immature. I saw a bunch of 21 year olds doing well in law school from the first year. In fact one of them is a topper already. And it won’t matter because anyway 50% of the graduates will be around the age limit of 23-25. You will be just a year older.

If you are doing well on your mocks - just focus on that and secure your career. No one will remember. Rather what will be remembered is if you get a single digit rank in clat. Right? Think like that. There are a lot of options (some uncertainties as well) in a tier-1 nlu. Don’t worry. And don’t feel old. You will be a year or a two older than the bunch. It’s not like you are pre-historic or something!

1) Primarily, you will be staffed on very mind numbing due diligences - the kind which you cannot even prepare for since it will revolve around clearing the comments of the bankers/underwriters on the draft offer document. Start studying drafts from now itself, if you have the time.

2) Creating dockets and backup security options for the BRLMs to the issue; it involves bearing the grunt of understanding the issue process and underlying risks which may arise accring to default; owing to which you create security and backup options - involves a lot of back and forth (on calls) with IBs, most of which is too gibberish to understand as an AO. Thus, reading intricacies of ECM is very very very important.

3) Understanding CIBIL searches, Watchout Investor Searches and Requistion CList Formulations since the due diligence report will have an aspect of the same (discretionary as per the firm's call).

4) Creating key difference tables when master circulars pop in: this shall include the "old circular number, new circular number, previous position of precedent and new material changes, if any" in that order - this is kind of tricky since you have to know how to read one circular as against the other and figure out what has been changed in a MC which has a lotttt of circulars mentioned. You get one thing wrong and you fuck up the transaction and the nature of disclosures involved.

5) Comprehensive PPTs on investor decks, KPIs, risk analysis and business overview - mostly done by foreign counsels but being well versed with the same helps a lot during negotiations.

6) Understanding the nuances of each chapter on the ECM offer document; therefore, a firm grasp of the latest amendments to the ICDR and LODR will be your bread and butter.

7) Knowing shortcuts on Word and Excel is a must because you will be working with IBs and allied finance tycoons which operate solely on Excel and not knowing anything here or there will leave a bad impression on behalf of you & the firm. Do not act as if you know it all or else you'll get fucked.

8) Lastly, please let it sink that after choosing this menace of practice - long hours are common, bonuses are slightly stagnated as against your M&A/B&F peers & chances of switching to GC/M&A is very sleek. Best part is that the work is cyclical and you will have days when you can go and tailor your suit, get that bag/watch for your next listing ceremony that will make headlines.

9) Word of caution - know what you are getting into since that life is not easy. You might glorify folks like Manan Lahoty, Yash Ashar, Sandip Bhagat etc; but trust me it will take years to reach that kind of level. So take one step at a time, seek redress if needed and learn to find joy in discomfort.

10) Breakup of Indian ECM firms in my honest opinion:

T1 Firms - CAM, IndusLaw, S&R, SAM, KCO

T2 Firms - JSA, AZB, Trilegal, Saraf, L&L

T3 Firms - CrawfordB, Bharucha, Rajani, SNG, Juris Corp

My sincere apologies for this long message but I hope this helps.

Hi there is already a thread which has discussed this wonderful achievement roughly around two weeks back. The link is given below 👇

https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/288175-nalsar-grad-kirkland-partner

Clifford Chance and Freshfields hired from NUJS 2023 batch. For most firms, you can apply in your final year (as you're considered a non-law student because the Indian degree is not a UK qualifying law degree). A few firms allow penultimate year non-law students to apply too, research on those specifically. Also learn how to spell the names of the firms (ideally before you apply to them) - it's Baker McKenzie.

Please tell application timelines for vacation scheme applications for firms like Linklaters, Allen & Overy, HSF, Clifford Chance, etc. Also, how open are firms like Latham & Watkins, Baker Mckinsey, and Hogan Lovells to applications from Indian students?

Are there any vacation schemes I can apply after my 7/8th semester?

https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/198376-being-a-tech-lawyer-in-a-law-firm

https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/183992-suggestions-for-good-tmt-teams-to-work-with

https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/274628-what-are-some-actual-technology-law-firms-with-good-client-work-and-how-much-do-they-pay

Threads that can help you frame a decision! All the best :)