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Give us some grace. We all are trying to learn and adjust with the intimidating environment; don't be unnecessarily harsh and rude.
Long story cut short: My uncle is super sick and is in the ICU. The doctors say he is critical and they are monitoring. We don’t know if he’ll make it or not.

I have a final hearing matter listed for Tuesday, conferences for which are today and we are short staffed on it.

I’m getting drowned in guilt because my family has said twice now to show up because we never know while on other hand I have a boss who’d taunt the life out of me and general throw a stink that I abandoned the matter. I don’t think I need to give him any personal details about except that a relative is sick and I need to bounce even if this is last minute.

I hate that I’m still thinking how can I take these calls. To top it all, I need to drive out station to be able to see him
Storytime:

I interned at a Tier 1 firm for a week but at a weekend party broke my ankle.I did go to the office the next day as I assumed it was a sprain but couldn’t concentrate the entire day due to the excruciating pain. I was limping and miserable and couldn’t work.

Next day after office, I couldn’t stand on my own and my parents had to fly in to Bombay.

I had to abruptly leave and I had informed my Partner and my buddy.

Went back and an additional liver problem was diagnosed. Turns out I have typhoid and an broken ankle.

I was hospitalised and during the time my father just let my buddy know I ain’t in the condition to even take calls which was true tbh. Mentally atleast. He handled all the exit formalities.

That was the end of communication.

The associate who gave me the most work is now working in the T1 I will be joining and a different team but same practice area.

Back then I had only informed my Buddy, HR and the Partner. Kinda forgot about the team.

After I recovered a month later I was too embarrassed to message or email anyone of them.

As somebody with Social Anxiety, now that I have to meet this associate again it’s gnawing at my insides.

Irresponsible yes, but I do not know how to explain all of this without seeming too irresponsible or dumb.
Is this firm you’re leaving from based in Noida in a Hindi newspaper’s office?
Please drop in how much batch of 2021 is making, starting from April 2024. It would be great if everyone can tell the base and the variable / bonus separately!
Student from t2 nlu and interned with corporate office in Feb of this year. When by can I expect the interview email
Most people from most colleges that aren't the top NLUs are currently in the same boat. At RGNUL, less than 20% have remotely decent jobs [excluding people who've settled for litigation chambers that pay less than 20-30k]. Similar story at RMLNLU and NUALS, where many are in hopes of clearing competitive exams and landing a job. So, for what it's worth, it's clearly more of an economy scenario rather than an individual issue β€” even the IITs and IIMs have seen some of the worst placement statistics ever; it's all over the news. Eventually though, I'm hopeful that the economy will correct itself and we'll get something somewhere. All the best, mate! :')
Interned with corporate office in Feb this year and from a t2 nlu. When can I get the interview email
I am from a no name pvt college, about to complete my third year. Before y'all troll me for being dumb, I am genuinely ashamed that until now I hadn't realized how important it is to be doing a t1 internship after my third year to have some chances in securing a PPO . It was always told to me to wait until fourth year to apply to such places which is why I do not have any t1 internship lined up. I am so so scared that I will graduate with no job. Can you please guide me as to how with the limited time left to intern (before day zero in 2025) , I can still somehow have a shot at getting a ppo and which firms and practice area should I be targeting to have a better chance at the same. Preferably in Mumbai. I'd be really grateful, thanks a lot!
Well good for you. But college libraries like mine do not have sufficient copies. Moreover they don't have all the books needed for the curriculum.
Yes, Justice KC was an active BJP member before his elevation to the Bench (bitterly opposed by CM "Kindness" while vociferously pushing the candidature of TMC acolytes). The matter did end up in the Cal HC when Justice KC was dealing with a case involving CM and the AG (KD) was appropriately schooled. So let's not read further "politics' into what KC can do.

Many judges without known political pasts act/ed in very political ways and reaped rewards. With KC, he knows that the "scrutiny" will always be there.

The other case by this Associate Professor is before Justice Jay Sengupta who has also given orders "against" the state govt.
a mutual friend I know interned there a year or so back, I was told they do really good corporate advisory and PEVC work & founder is ex algo/Klaw
This might sound like I have offers from all of them. Lol. I'm just curious about the work culture at these firms as I have heard decent reviews from people there. They pay decently as well.

I'm specifically referring to M&A, PE, VC, or say even Tech teams for that matter. I'm part of the 2025 batch and have 2 separate questions.

1) which of these three firms is better overall for the practice area I mentioned in BLR?

2) whether it makes sense to work at a tier 3/4 firm right after I graduate instead of chasing tier 1s?

What could the pros and cons be in both cases? I would really appreciate it if someone could highlight this in detail. Thank you!!
Re: poor person stealing food analogy - we create a society where basic needs like subsistence nutrition are met.

Re: old person liking analogy - reading a book is not the same as killing a person.

Your examples are not nearly as smart as they sound in your head.
Thanks. Helpful. But solution could also be getting 64 gb and then using external SD card or something? Not sure if iPad has this feature of getting to use external SD cards
First thing first, UK colleges offer do not offer integrated BALLB rather they offer LLB without any prior graduate requirement. However if you wish to return back to India, you need to take a 2year bridge course to practice in India. On your secondary doubts, the Shardul Shroff's daughters graduated from a tier 3 UK college in wales. There are good number of partners with tier 2/3 UK graduate degrees. It all depends on a number of factors. If you look forward to work with Indian law firms definitely try for the top 3 NLUs. And no, NLS does not get as much TC as these UK colleges for obvious reasons.
iPad base variant is good enough, no need for pro or air. But do get the maximum storage because briefs can take a lot of space. The Liquid text app itself doesn't take that much space.
I have attended 4 conferences with him as of now. He is brilliant. He argues well. I don't know what you're talking about.
How is NKC and Co responding to the two writs lodged by an associate professor in Cal HC?

WPA/10583/2024

WPA/3644/2024

You can check these on Cal HC website. Not a troll
Jindal for 3 year LLB doesn't make that much sense imo. A friend who taught that batch said like 2 or 3 out of the class got PPOs. Better go for GLC, intern for 3 years and get a job.
Why bother DYC? What about SS from Cal HC? What about AB from SC while he was on EC? Both looked on while NKC and Co buried all the inquiries that had been initiated by the EC in 2018-20. Doubtful that DD from SC will break from the pattern. When he was in Cal HC in 2014-16, he tasked a retired Cal HC judge (Justice PN Sinha) to do a through inquiry of financial mismanagement by PIB and Co. But that was buried as well. The great Lord Taluk and handpicked Registrars scuttled SJA attempts to have the Justice Sinha Inquiry Report implemented.

Temper your faith in the judicial nominees who adorn the EC. And there is the lived experience of Lord Taluk!
As above, I know a person at rmlnlu who recently got a PPO at AZB even with back in two papers and backs were not cleared at the time of getting the PPO.
Why is the name redacted here, mods? This is literally the definition of a kind comment which LI policies encourage.
Please get an ipad air 5th gen or ipad pro M1 or m2 chip. Make sure you get 256gb variant. 128 gb is not sufficient. Or if you can wait till june. Get the newer model.

Apps. -liquidtext is a must for lawyers.
I think they have 50 people. Everyone is down to earth and helpful. Their cafeteria is very small and can sit only 5 ya 6 people. Not a very flashy office like a typical T1. Partners are also nice. Vivek is little silent and humble and works late everyday. Pramod is from SAM. Triyambuk is assentio that merged with KCO and is very friendly and teaches and explains things patiently. A0 is same salary in chennai office and is 1.3L. Wanted to work only in Bangalore but will consider working in chennai if KCO offers. But generally pay is not good in chennai.
21L is the outer band

17 + 3L for good rating

Think it’s 18.5-19L on an average
Hey i have passed my 12th and i am confused whether i should study llb & llm abroad or give clat i am also worried if I’ll get a job after coming back or should i just stay there
Absolutely! However firms need to ensure pay parity with counterparts in other cities soon.
Jindal doesn't have good academics. Teachers are forbidden from laying down any standard that the students have to work hard for.
How are the placements for 3 year LLB in GLC Mumbai like compared to Jindal Global Law School? Considering GLC has clear advantage when it comes to internships and being at the heart of the city while Jindal has from what I've heard, good academics.
How does the work allocation among LI mods take place? Is one given the charge of a single thread so that other mods don't look at it when the latter log in? I'm asking because it's curious how a few threads are left languishing without comments being moderated or published, while some like this one are updated regularly.
Is it worth interning at Trilegal Bangalore in May 2024 if one is looking for ppo. I have other tier 1 internships too. Little confused as which one to choose ?
Hostel allotment through lottery because they can't give it to everyone,wish you all the luck!
How is investing your savings a side hustle? If you were looking to be a part time trader, I would have understood but long term investment won't fetch u the kind of money that you are looking for and is not a side hustle. Expect around 15-20% gains on the amount invested after 2 years.
Has anyone done it? I do not mind getting shouted at in the firm for "low" productivity. I will somehow manage. But what I want to know is whether it is possible? Do u know someone who whilst working in a law firm managed to crack exams like SEBI/RBI/SBI/others. Or should I take a break as soon as I decide to sit for an examination. Kindly advise
It is ready, the campus is Asansol not Siliguri. How NUJS can open branches like this and take in students after CLAT lists are published, we don't know. In fact, we don't even know how a national law school can open so many state branches. But when you see new students suddenly in July in a new "branch" in Asansol - remember you heard it here first! NOOJIES...what is wrong with you? Still fighting about attendance and aircons?

When the credibility and reputation of the NUJS brand and placements could be at stake? πŸ˜‚
how many properties were acquired for narmada project ?? did he give any fair comp ?
sheth too is leftist.. puppet of A&A & yet being leftist is ironic
Mumbai good life costs:

- 1 to 4 lakh per month for apartment rent.

- 20 lakhs to 1 crore per year every 5 years for a car

- 30K to 40K per month driver salary

- 30K per month eating out and shopping

- 20K per month essentials

- 50K to 1 lakh per month on swag and bling, depending on your budget
Correct. Associates would prefer saving zero in Mumbai versus saving 30K pm in a tier 2 city. Remember that your lack of savings early on will be compensated once you reach SA/partner level and earn mega crores. There is also the issue of prestige and status. Even if you may save more living in Jaipur and Raipur, it’s a lot more prestigious to stay in Mumbai. There’s quality of life too. You have great restaurants, malls and nightclubs which you don’t have elsewhere. Then at some point you may wish to get married and have kids. The best girls will want to live in Mumbai and you will also want your child to attend a good school in Mumbai.
Thank you for the kind reply. Do they accept interns if one approached them directly? I just passed out. So do not have any placement or internship cell from college to apply.
doing a credit course is not giving back, they get paid for it and usually done during vacation in India, have they started a research collab between their present uni and their undergrad uni? the answer is no.

have they encouraged joint degrees or helped with research proposal, again the answer is no.

that would be giving back where there is no expectation of return, not some credit course.
How many of y'all at CAM ready to quit if this year's increments aren't at par with the market rate?

Since Khaitan has also gone for a substantial hike for this year, "Sir" must think if he's ready to lose more people to "smaller platforms" and the likes of Khaitan
You don’t have to clear bar exam also, just after clearing NCA people are getting jobs

Once you get a job offer its easy to get a PR
Hi, please help with some info on lawyers litigating in Delhi who take up cases related to tech law and/or digital rights. Plus, any info on how are they as bosses, mentorship, pay, work life balance in their chambers etc. is much appreciated!
Does the internal storage provided in the basic variant i.e. 64 gb sufficient for liquid text.?
Every meme page is cringe. There are either pages by NLU people that keep on slating Pvt colleges for no reason. Then there are pages by Pvt University lads which are absolutely cringe and they post screenshots of tweets about Indian Law that gets more than 100 likes.

The only 10/10 page I've come across is Litigation God
All the good student meme pages have died, πŸͺ¦ That’s coz the present generation is too sensitive and wary of offending people.
Wtf are u smoking? You will β€œsave” a partner? You a lowly associate?? I cannot fathom the level of discourse on this forum sometimes.
The fact that you are asking this here, a random anonymous message board mostly consisting of jobless law students, instead of researching on the financials of these entities, or reading brokerage reports, or at the very least reading research notes on MC, should answer your question.
4th year from Tier 2 nlu. I interned with the corp team in Feb and was expecting an interview email based on the work I did. Do they take this long usually as it's been over two months. I was told Khaitan Mumbai is hiring for my batch.
The drafts are actually quite well prepared, i was also able to add/delete clauses just by telling it without typing all the legal jargon and it was able to pick up what i wanted to add. I think it's pretty useful tbh.
Please never use singlelogin(dot)re or Anna's Archive. Piracy is very bad yes πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈβŒ
Relax. Life is long. Lots of opportunities will come through. I was in a similar situation last year. Did an LLM and got to a good place in life. I am satisfied with the growth. Not as much as the successful peers of my age, but still very decent. Just do not sit idle. Do something, ON RECORD.
Which law school offers great gym facilities? Do students at law schools have an interest in fitness and gym activities?

Moreover, are there notable individuals within in law schools who excel in fitness and could be highlighted?

(Got intrigued about this topic after reading a recent LI thread on lawfirms having gyms)
+1, just saw 3 more posts on linkedin (direct tax + GC) - seems like all the June internships have been notified
I am Graduating in 2024 from Tier-3 College from Mumbai (BBA-LLB). In my 5 years of Law School I have done mutliple Internships mostly in In-house Organizations and a couple of Law firms. My core interests lie in Media and Entertainment Laws, Labour and Employment Laws and IPR. I am Graduating in a month with no job in hand. I have an opportunity to switch to Media and Entertainment industry and work in Digital Marketing and Advertisements. I have always wanted to do something media related but my father forced me to take law. I am now inclined to make the switch, the Initial pay is less, my plan is to gain a couple of years of work experience and do Masters/MBA in Advertising from a reputed college in India/Abroad. Do you think i am making the right decision? Please Advice.
ELP - ELP's clientele is unmatched. Also practice isn't limited to DGTR, their real game lies in advisory

Trilegal - Trilegal pays better, but better and more diverse work lies with ELP.

LKS - LKS has lost steam. They have a v old school practice.
In order to make 6 LPA a year, you need to invest at least 60 LPA. Moreover, the route that you're prescribing won't make liquid income unless you trade in the shares. Dividend alone won't give you anywhere that number. Wealth or portfolio accumulation may be that much provided you invest large sums, but that won't give you liquid money to spend.
Near Salt Lake City Centre, about 2.5 km away from the first campus. That's where the BSc LLB classes are taking place now.
Whichever is the cheapest - 9th Gen/10th Gen. No need to go for Air or Pro.

LiquidText is the only main software you need on it (provided you have a proper PDF suite on your laptop for e-filing & other purposes). Plus maybe a note-taking app of your choice.
Kindly advise what model of ipad to choose and load which essential software packages on it, to efficiently work as a lawyer - both litigation and advisory?
If judiciary your goal, choose BHU Law School.

NLU Nagpur is Tier 4 college. No need to pay the kind of fee they charge.
Just wanted to point something out β€”- yes, there are nepo kids in his chamber but they are there elsewhere too. Don’t single him out. Also remember that these kids have studied in elite big city schools and their parents have too. At least partly for that reason, they have a strong command of the English language, which is very important. Many nepo kids also have LLB degree from NLUs or at least Jindal (rather than Amity or GLC or Llloyd) and many have LLMs from abroad. So, objectively speaking, these are reasons why an employer would prefer such a candidate over someone from a small-town school with only an BALLB β€”- unless that person is from a top NLU, has very good grades and has a good command of English. Textbook case in point is the girl from GNLU who ranked 7 in UPSC. She said that she grew up in a remote village and went to a Hindi-medium school till class 5 which had bad infrastructure, but despite that she is so brilliant and obviously writes excellent English essays. Anyway, true talent always succeeds in the long run.
With temperatures soaring to over a staggering 40 degrees Celsius, and the IMD issuing ominous orange alerts for heatwaves, the situation has become nothing short of unbearable for the students of NUJS, purportedly a tier-1 bastion of legal education and excellence.

Despite the desperate pleas of students, the administration's response has been disappointingly apathetic. The excuse of inadequate infrastructure and electric wiring has become a tired refrain, serving as a feeble shield against the glaring reality of student suffering. While other institutions such as NLUJ have swiftly adapted to modern amenities, NUJS remains mired in archaic excuses, leaving its students to swelter in the suffocating heat of neglect.

The SJA, once hailed as a beacon of student advocacy, now finds itself shackled by complacency and compromise. Instead of demanding meaningful change, it settles for the crumbs tossed by an indifferent administration, betraying the very essence of its existence. The spirit of protest that once coursed through the veins of NUJS has been replaced by a resigned acceptance of mediocrity, a far cry from the fervor that ousted the erstwhile VC PIB in 2018.

In a desperate bid for relief during their endsems, students now flock to the air-conditioned sanctuary of the auditorium, their mattresses strewn across the filthy floor in a pitiful attempt to escape the oppressive heat of their hostel rooms. Yet, even this makeshift refuge offers little solace, as the toll of heatstroke and fever ravages the student body with alarming frequency.

As we languish in this heatwave hell, it's time for NUJS to awaken from its slumber of indifference. We cannot afford to remain silent spectators to our own suffering, shackled by the chains of apathy and complacency. It's time to reclaim our voices, to demand the dignity and comfort that every student deserves. Let us rise, not in resignation, but in righteous indignation, and forge a future where the heat of injustice is but a distant memory.
Hi, I myself am visually impaired and have been working at a law firm. That being said my disability is not very visible, so I cannot comment on the prejudice a recruiter may have regarding this. However, one of my batchmates works at a T1 law firm who is physically handicapped. Visibility of their condition was not a barrier. Keep your hopes up !!
It might possibly expose trainees to a more varied set of opportunities for high-quality professional development. I am at law school in England and, while I myself do not have any interest in commercial law, was comparing notes with a fellow Indian student who achieved a TC from A&O before the merger. This student was told, at talks held for future trainees, that there may even be greater opportunities for secondments in the U.S. and higher U.S. dealflows. So I'd say exciting times ahead!
There is always a choice between acting humane and downright violating the human rights of students. Being an academically well qualified student, mooter, debater and in general one with a clean record, I can testify to the fact that he lacks empathy and basic human courtesy or decency. His tone is extremely harsh and threatening whenever he interacts with students, even those with no disciplinary action against them. However, I understand he has had a rough marital history among others, hope he healsπŸ’—
Friend of MP is one of the most incompetent and unprofessional person I have ever met or seen.
There are very few people in the legal fraternity who truly make you stop and wonder how some people can be so selfless, righteous, respectful, HUMBLE and grounded despite every challenge LIFE puts you through. Ruchit P is one such person. I’m so glad our paths crossed buddy. Godspeed- if you are reading this by any chance,,, know that we are and will always be rooting for you! Never change.
Ek ke baare me kuch nahi suna hai aur dusre ke baare me kuch acha nahi suna hai.

You should go for your preferred practice area.
The US has always been a supporter of Israel. Also, there were never such protests when the US bombed Iran and Afghanistan, or protests against China, North Kore and Iran for human rights abuses committed by them. Why this suddenly? Is it because the present generation is more left-wing?
Richie Sancheti Associates, Rajaram Legal, Lexygen (gen corp though), Bombay Law chambers, Vritti associates.
I’m a 4th year law student from Bangalore studying in a private college, I’ve studied science in 11th & 12th grade and switched to law.

I was very passionate about law after interning and learning and wanted to get into corporate and do well however I’ve discover about GEM (graduate entry medicine) a medical course for students who have completed their grad in UK & Australia.

Idk I want to do it remembering how much parents wanted me to get into medicine back in 12th grade but this time I want to be a doctor I’m scared as shit idk what to do I was planning to apply for LLM in the next few months.
β€œthe number of law teachers in India with nlu undegrad it is less than two dozen.”

Untrue statement pulled out of one ass workout research. There are more than two dozen at NLS alone.
CJI is now a Z+ security holder so requires a bullet proof vehicle. very few manufacturers offer that customisation and Merc is one of them.
I have only ever seen Shardul Amarchand being a truly inclusive form. They had hired someone with disability not sure if that’s still the case. They also have the best daycare facility ever. Walked the talk much before DE&I was even a thing
You're reading the wrong provision. The relevant sub sections are 52(1)(a) and 52(1)(i), neither of which has a quantity limitation.

The sub section you have quoted pertains to reproduction of published extracts in collections or compilations.
I can only speak from my experience as a student at an NLU that could be considered between a tier 1 and tier 2. We had some great professors with brilliant subject knowledge, but many are there who blatantly plagiarize off books and blogs without even citing them as references even in their course outline. One senior professor even plagiarized from iPleaders for her slides. Another was recently called out by immediate junior batch for making up cases. They even produced evidence for use of ChatGPT in her study material.

I believe the ratio of great, mediocre, and bad professors at my university is 10:50:40. After paying lakhs in coaching and now three years of law school, I am coming to regret my decision. Is the scene similar in other NLUs too?
Seeing a lot of software companies circumvent the law, ie - mandated leave on election day, by offering WFH. Is there any action which can be taken against them?
Accessibility costs for laptop software etc is small change for a T1 law firm compared to their regular expenditure. Won't be an issue.
Hello to all the law firm associates (all levels), partners (all kinds) and those who joined litigation in a chamber, hope you are all having a wonderful day!

At some point or the other, you must've dealt with interns and them 'bugging you' for work and the like. What I'm looking for is stories about some interns you all have worked with that made you go "what is this kid on?", whether it be weird behaviour, erratic work product (sometimes good, sometimes not), the sheer audacity and the like. Whatever set them apart, either in a good or bad fashion - you'll know better due to first hand experience. Did you end up hiring that kid?

Let this be a place to share weird stories anonymously to take a break from the animosity each group shows the other on this platform. Who knows? You may end up getting better interns if they read this thread!

To those in law school still, feel free to talk about your co-interns in the same fashion.
I had applied for disputes at a tier 2 firm and they didn't ask a single question on disputes. All they asked was company law and stuff. I don't have a good gold on company law.. shouldn't they have told me earlier ?

What all subjects do I need to study for disputes ?
What is the scope of a litigation/arbitration (dispute resolution) lawyer overseas? Could you find a job after the LLM?

I have heard about the international arbitration thing, but it is majorly for Paris/Belgium/Singapore.
I would love to hear some insights on these. Are there any lawyers who have done this and can share a bit themselves? Thank you.
Why bring in 52(1)(h) when the concerned section is 52(1)(i). Anything used in the course of instruction. The extent is not important, what's important is that it's used in the course of instruction.
Hello everyone. I just wanted to enquire does getting a top ranked college via CLAT guarentees a tier1 firm job after 5 years even though you were average at your college academics? Thank you.
I'm a student in a decent NLU, almost done with my second semester and so far I have a good reputation in my batch. I've got good grades as well and my academic life is doing fine.

Been trying for some competitions here and there but tough luck so far however, there's one major problem that I've been facing since joining university.

I've become a person with no personality. I've left my obsession with watching anime, web series, and video games, something that was my life before I decided to prepare for class. I read some books here and there but that's like 5-6 books (outside of curriculum) a semester. The tight schedule in our uni prevents me from working out a lot or playing any sport for a lot of time. 8-10k steps a day at most.

I look at the ceiling fan or my Instagram feed for the whole day and wonder if there's anything to my personality other than being a clown and an academic validation seeker. I'm friends with almost everyone but I dislike almost all of them from the bottom of my heart (people here hate you and act like you're buddies since childhood). I tried making meaningful friendships but I'm unable to attach or bond with anyone I've met so far. I've a girlfriend back in my hometown but I don't want to impose myself on her 24/7.

Is there anyone who had a similar situation and healthily tackled such issues? So far all I believe is that it's a part of growing up and I should just man up and face it. I'm considering visiting the university counsellor but do I even have a problem to begin with?
How are the working hours, pay for A0, toxicity and office infrastructure and facilities offered?
seriously asking - what do you offer to an organisation with no skills? wishes are well and good but they dont pay the bills. Not everyone needs to become a big shot m&a lawyer