I am giving the clat exam next month but I don't think I will get a good nlu as I have taken the drop for engineering but shifted to law a month back, so my preparation for clat is just 2 months.
So my options are op jindal and symbiosis pune. For op jindal the loan will almost be 30 lakhs. So can someone please tell me if it is worth to take a loan.
Take a loan for nri sponsored seats (if and only if you have relatives who fit the criteria) and get yourself into nlu jodhpur, nujs or NLIU.
If not, then if you are brilliant in your studies (which can automatically fetch u good rank in CLAt even after prepping a month of two), you can try investing in Bachelors at Oxford/NUS Singapore. Just don’t burn your money at Jindal
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Hi, I'm a fifth-year at Jindal and I'm set to join a T1 law firm after having recently secured a PPO. In all honesty, JGLS has great academics and opportunities but if you need to take a loan, then you should ideally avoid enrolment. You can still make it big by paying a lesser fee and hopefully joining good NLUs or private universities like Symbi & Christ.
One thing I can guarantee about Jindal is that the opportunities are endless but it's all about what you seek to achieve at law school. Jindal offers electives that are far better than any other law school in the country. Our faculty is known to be the best. Our placements are of course not great when you consider the entire batch strength but its necessary to note that not everyone joins Jindal to secure a job in law, a lot of students just need degrees to carry on their family businesses. While a lot has been said about distractions and ROI, I truly believe that you can do well at Jindal but that would probably be true about any law school. All of it boils down to your efforts.
All-in-all, if you need to take out a 30L loan, then avoid enrolment, you can succeed at other colleges like Symbi & Christ. All the best!
Your faculty is known to be the best by whom? As for electives, a fancy name does not ensure quality. There is no academic rigour or standard existing in Jindal at present. The few good people who are left there, i.e. the ones not just treating it as a job to make extra money and great WLB, have given up on trying to enforce any standard and have been suffering from depression from what they reveal.
Well, all my peers at NLUs and private universities have largely agreed that the faculty at JGLS is on another level. From literally poaching all NLU profs or NLU alumni to having the ex-CJI at our university, I think this is quite rhetorical.
Addressing the comment regarding our electives and academic rigour, sure I'll agree that not all electives are the most academically challenging but do bear in mind that we get a total of 220 electives to pick from. Even NLUs at max are offered 10. Now out of the 220, if there are at least 50-70 challenging ones (which I guarantee you, after seeing NLU and other uni electives, they are), I'd be quite content!
Regarding the "few good people who are left there", I'm sure the standards of living can and will be improved. No doubt there's issues with living in Sonipat, trust me I hate having to stay here, but a lot of faculty live in Delhi and travel down here for 2 days. It's only an hour away. So if you're getting paid well, love teaching and get to live in Delhi (personally I don't love the city but I'm sure it appeals to a lot of people), then I'd say you're doing quite well and this mode is likely to appeal to other profs as well. If you don't believe me, why don't you ask the profs at your uni, especially based on what they earn and the restrictions placed on teaching methodology :)
1. Those peers haven't really been taught by your faculty, nor you by theirs, so the opinions are largely based on hearsay and presumptions.
2. The question is not about range of electives, but about the quality and rigour. Even the range is negated by your batch size. NLUs may offer 10% electives but their student strength is also 10% of yours.
3. You deliberately avoided the issue and went into standard of living. It's about the academic standard and how your faculty are forced to tow the lines of the students and the admin at Jindal. You have got very little clue about academic freedom in NLUs, otherwise you would not have said that they place restrictions on teaching methodology that JGLS doesn't. If by that you meant that your teachers are free to swear in front of students or show them bumble profiles, then that's probably not the best of advertisements for JGLS.
The crux of the matter is that you have got no substantive ground to claim that your faculty is the best unless you can show that they are producing the best students.
Quite funny that you claim that this person's sources are hearsay and presumptuous when you yourself have been implying that you aren't from JGLS. How are you supposed to know what teaching at JGLS is like? Also didn't you just claim above that the few good profs have claimed to be depressed based on something you heard or read somewhere? Hmm, sounds like hearsay....
Also this person did not avoid the issue and jump into standard of living, you brought it up yourself buddy.
This proves that you don't even know what hearsay means. Please go back to your classes. When student of university X tells you without having studied at your university that your teachers are the best, that's hearsay because all they know about your teachers are from you. When teachers of your university tell others how they feel, that's their experience, not hearsay.
based, you listen to 1/2 profs and classify the entire lot of remaining good profs as depressed - come on please do better than arguing what hearsay when all you rely on is "experience" lol
So basically you had no counter against my point and is now trying to use your juvenile sentence construction to deflect attention away from it. This is why no one has ever respected Jiggles.
"is now trying to use" after "you had no counter" and you call my sentence structure juvenile? I'm not deflecting any attention away, I'm saying that if the situation was that bad then profs wouldn't be joining Jindal over other universities. Give all the reasons you want but it's still a preferred location for faculty. Respect Jindal kids or not, that's upto you but I'm sure the OP would be fine knowing that he has a T1 job and so do I.
Graduating Batch'23, 3 Year LLB from JGLS, Do not go to Jindal, if you do not have contacts or that one uncle who knows people in the legal world. 70% of my batch mates got their own internships, (the ones they provide are abysmal usually NGOs, Content writing or small advocates ) PPOs were non-existent if you are not at least a 7.5/8. Very few companies came on Zero Day and even if they do come there is no guarantee that you are gonna be selected; 40 students compete for 4 positions except when it is mass recruitment like CAM or SAM. I'd say one thing though, if you have money take a drop and try for NLUs or better try some other decent law college like SLS or maybe as you still have time go for Tier 3 NLUs.
No matter what anyone says.....avoid this. Jindal with a loan is simply not worth it BECAUSE you may or may not have the capacity to repay it. Meaning, with depressing ROIs coming out of this factory of students (read: no jobs, not even 10% of the batch is placed), there are high chances that YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO REPAY the loan.
Btw, this is not the jindal of the early days. University is just doing aggressive expansion at the cost of quality.
Can anyone shed light on their scholarship/financial aid program? (would prefer insights of those who have, or someone around them, has availed such assistance).
If I had 50 lakhs to spend, I would do as follows:
1. LLB or BA from a government college for minimal fees. It’s hard for non-EWS general category students to make it to reputed ones because of reservation, so as a backup I could look at Symbi or Nirma.
2. LLM overseas or an MBA at ISB or NUS Singapore.
So my options are op jindal and symbiosis pune. For op jindal the loan will almost be 30 lakhs. So can someone please tell me if it is worth to take a loan.
In regards to your second question, I guess the following threads can be of immense help: -
https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/160181-is-it-worth-taking-a-loan-to-study-at-jgls-or-save-for-an-llm
https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/265788-lsat-results-announced-still-wise-to-join-jindal
https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/234788-worth-taking-risk-of-10-15-lakh-9-education-loan-to-continue-at-sls-pune
https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/175083-scholarships-at-jindal
If not, then if you are brilliant in your studies (which can automatically fetch u good rank in CLAt even after prepping a month of two), you can try investing in Bachelors at Oxford/NUS Singapore. Just don’t burn your money at Jindal
One thing I can guarantee about Jindal is that the opportunities are endless but it's all about what you seek to achieve at law school. Jindal offers electives that are far better than any other law school in the country. Our faculty is known to be the best. Our placements are of course not great when you consider the entire batch strength but its necessary to note that not everyone joins Jindal to secure a job in law, a lot of students just need degrees to carry on their family businesses. While a lot has been said about distractions and ROI, I truly believe that you can do well at Jindal but that would probably be true about any law school. All of it boils down to your efforts.
All-in-all, if you need to take out a 30L loan, then avoid enrolment, you can succeed at other colleges like Symbi & Christ. All the best!
Addressing the comment regarding our electives and academic rigour, sure I'll agree that not all electives are the most academically challenging but do bear in mind that we get a total of 220 electives to pick from. Even NLUs at max are offered 10. Now out of the 220, if there are at least 50-70 challenging ones (which I guarantee you, after seeing NLU and other uni electives, they are), I'd be quite content!
Regarding the "few good people who are left there", I'm sure the standards of living can and will be improved. No doubt there's issues with living in Sonipat, trust me I hate having to stay here, but a lot of faculty live in Delhi and travel down here for 2 days. It's only an hour away. So if you're getting paid well, love teaching and get to live in Delhi (personally I don't love the city but I'm sure it appeals to a lot of people), then I'd say you're doing quite well and this mode is likely to appeal to other profs as well. If you don't believe me, why don't you ask the profs at your uni, especially based on what they earn and the restrictions placed on teaching methodology :)
2. The question is not about range of electives, but about the quality and rigour. Even the range is negated by your batch size. NLUs may offer 10% electives but their student strength is also 10% of yours.
3. You deliberately avoided the issue and went into standard of living. It's about the academic standard and how your faculty are forced to tow the lines of the students and the admin at Jindal. You have got very little clue about academic freedom in NLUs, otherwise you would not have said that they place restrictions on teaching methodology that JGLS doesn't. If by that you meant that your teachers are free to swear in front of students or show them bumble profiles, then that's probably not the best of advertisements for JGLS.
The crux of the matter is that you have got no substantive ground to claim that your faculty is the best unless you can show that they are producing the best students.
Also this person did not avoid the issue and jump into standard of living, you brought it up yourself buddy.
Btw, this is not the jindal of the early days. University is just doing aggressive expansion at the cost of quality.
SIMPLY NOT WORTH IT.
If you can't afford the cost or can't get good scholarship (many guys on 75% and 50% fee concession), go to NLU or govt law college
1. LLB or BA from a government college for minimal fees. It’s hard for non-EWS general category students to make it to reputed ones because of reservation, so as a backup I could look at Symbi or Nirma.
2. LLM overseas or an MBA at ISB or NUS Singapore.