I have had really horrible grades in law school. Many papers - I have just got pass marks some cleared after multiple attempts. I have 4 years of experience at a respectable Hyd, Seniors office - mostly civil.
When it comes to Foreign LLM applications what's the minimum marks required (CGPA/Percentage)?
US (T14?? - is it possible) & Canada Europe (some respectable uni)
Scholarships are a bonus (even if Partial) especially for the ones in US, but the chances of myself getting it is NIL. But the big question is - Is there any kind of cutoff for these admissions?
Also will my LLB grades affect my chances at converting my Indian Degree for QLTS or NYBE/California Bar?
Will my mark statement (with these grades) hinter my chance of getting a License abroad?
I studied in a college - where really horrible marks were given for my batch - it changed for our juniors thou.
1. Do an LLM in India, work hard and ace it to make up for your bad LLB grades. Then, apply for an LLM to a decent college. You could even consider the dual degree programme offered by JGLS and Southwestern Law School in the US (a lower tier law school, but a US LLM nevertheless: also, based in California).
2. If you want to do an LLM right away with bottom of the class grades, consider not only bottom-tier US colleges, but also places like Wales (Cardiff, Swansea), Scotland (Aberdeen, Glasgow, Dundee Stirling) and New Zealand (Auckland, VU Wellington, AUT, Otago, Massey, Waikato, Canterbury). You could do an internship at a local firm or company during your studies and then join there. I know someone in New Zealand who cleared their law exam and is very happy there. My friend has got NZ permanent residency and will get citizenship in a few years.
It really depends. I’ll speak to the American schools. If you have other stuff on your CV that makes up for bad grades- you might get through. If you don’t have that stuff, if you’re fresh out of law school or you’ve not done any exceptional work to write to them about, you’re best waiting until you do that. Scholarships are other peoples real money so they’ll be extremely competitive. Your grades don’t matter for the American Bar.
There’s really only one way to actually know the answer to this question and that’s to apply to places.
for uk LLM (except oxbridge-lse) it will depend from which uni you did your llb
if you did your llb from any of the nlus you would need min 55% (although lower russel group may go to 50% as you have work experience)
if your llb is from non nlu but well known pvt or gvt uni then you would need around 60% (again lower russell and higher research uni may go down to 55%)
for post 1992 uni in uk it does not matter what you have got in llb, if you can pay they will take you
for sqe it does not matter how much you have scored in llb, as long as you are an advocate in India it is fine
if you want to do llm for qualifying in the uk, I would suggest having a look at school of law, academically it is not even in the top 50%, it started as a cram school now it has morphed into a law school but it does quite well what it advertises, if your aim is to pass sqe enrol in their professional llm programme
however, word of advise research well as to what you want to do after sqe, have some contacts and plans before you come to the uk, i have seen a lot of indian students who come to the uk and pursue llm with the hope of getting a job, but those jobs are elusive and only about 1 in 10 succeed to convert their llm to jobs and all of them did their homework before committing to the llm
They do have certain subject requirements. For eg if you're licensed in India, the LLM helps add credits for certain subjects like professional responsibility. I am not aware of other ways around this so can't advise.
Do you have good references? Do you know which specific programmes you want to get into? What law school did you go to? I know people who were near the bottom half of their class in nls, nalsar nujs do quite well with masters programmes. But they had a lot of other things going for them. Its hard to chance you without knowing the whole application- The best advice I got on this stuff was: you dont reject yourself from these programmes- let the admissions commitee do that for you.
US T-14 for the large part do look at grades, I almost did not get in where I ended up going because of that (I went to a T-6). Also rn the US job market is bad.
When it comes to Foreign LLM applications what's the minimum marks required (CGPA/Percentage)?
US (T14?? - is it possible) & Canada
Europe (some respectable uni)
Scholarships are a bonus (even if Partial) especially for the ones in US, but the chances of myself getting it is NIL. But the big question is - Is there any kind of cutoff for these admissions?
Also will my LLB grades affect my chances at converting my Indian Degree for QLTS or NYBE/California Bar?
Will my mark statement (with these grades) hinter my chance of getting a License abroad?
I studied in a college - where really horrible marks were given for my batch - it changed for our juniors thou.
1. Do an LLM in India, work hard and ace it to make up for your bad LLB grades. Then, apply for an LLM to a decent college. You could even consider the dual degree programme offered by JGLS and Southwestern Law School in the US (a lower tier law school, but a US LLM nevertheless: also, based in California).
2. If you want to do an LLM right away with bottom of the class grades, consider not only bottom-tier US colleges, but also places like Wales (Cardiff, Swansea), Scotland (Aberdeen, Glasgow, Dundee Stirling) and New Zealand (Auckland, VU Wellington, AUT, Otago, Massey, Waikato, Canterbury). You could do an internship at a local firm or company during your studies and then join there. I know someone in New Zealand who cleared their law exam and is very happy there. My friend has got NZ permanent residency and will get citizenship in a few years.
Scholarships are other peoples real money so they’ll be extremely competitive.
Your grades don’t matter for the American Bar.
There’s really only one way to actually know the answer to this question and that’s to apply to places.
if you did your llb from any of the nlus you would need min 55% (although lower russel group may go to 50% as you have work experience)
if your llb is from non nlu but well known pvt or gvt uni then you would need around 60% (again lower russell and higher research uni may go down to 55%)
for post 1992 uni in uk it does not matter what you have got in llb, if you can pay they will take you
for sqe it does not matter how much you have scored in llb, as long as you are an advocate in India it is fine
if you want to do llm for qualifying in the uk, I would suggest having a look at school of law, academically it is not even in the top 50%, it started as a cram school now it has morphed into a law school but it does quite well what it advertises, if your aim is to pass sqe enrol in their professional llm programme
however, word of advise research well as to what you want to do after sqe, have some contacts and plans before you come to the uk, i have seen a lot of indian students who come to the uk and pursue llm with the hope of getting a job, but those jobs are elusive and only about 1 in 10 succeed to convert their llm to jobs and all of them did their homework before committing to the llm
Does New York Bar Exam has any requirement of a certain mark for LLB in India? Or does it only look at LLM grades?