The real reasons are:

1. No real competition for NLSIU before this.

2. No more Nandan Nilekani or Soli Sorabjee on the interview panel. They used to prefer NLSIU, especially Nilekani.

3. Rhodes Trust received feedback that NLSIU was unnecessarily being preferred. During his visit to India in 2015, the then Warden of Rhodes House, Charles Conn, met with various people (including Jindal VC and ex-Rhodes scholar Rajkumar) and conveyed to Rhodes that they should be fairer to other law schools. Rajkumar himself said this while encouraging Jindal students to apply for Rhodes (no Jindal grad has won as yet, but people are being shortlisted in the final round, which didn’t happen before).

It seems RL is delivering quality work, which is evident from its client roster. However, here's the real conundrum, can a MP effectively work remotely for most of the year, especially in a different jurisdiction? Wouldn't you need your leader on the ground to manage both internal affairs and client relationships effectively? This may be similar to trying to conduct a symphony without being in the same room as the orchestra. Head PS managed it on her behalf for a while but eventually left. That raises another question, Is RL offering sufficient incentives for its partners? I personally would like such firms to flourish however creating institutions is not easy.

Can we for once speak for everyone guys. Evertime someone comes up collective issues, you elite college folks try to make it look as it's ur house party and start throwing in ur opinions. There are other people beyond GLC and NLUs too and they have worked equally hard, but still struggling. Please be a bit more considerate and inclusive.

The first batch of NALSAR graduated in 2003 and the Rhodes selection for that batch took place in 2002. So NLSIU has had inter-NLU competition since 2002. Before that there was competition from DU, GLC and ILS. So don’t claim lack of competition. It is clearly affirmative action to prevent NLSIU domination.

Yes please it will be very helpful for the upcoming law students who are confused in between going for law firms and chambers. The biggest hurdle for them being pay scale, if any of the chamber pays alteast sufficient salary to sustain in the cities like Delhi and Bombay then one can go for it. please provide if anyone knows.

I am a 5th-year student from a lower NLU with a decent CV, and I aspire to intern with a T1 firm. However, the biggest challenge I face is the lack of connections or guidance from someone to assist me.

I'll be honest, whenever I try to seek help from my "friends," who may have the necessary details that could help me secure a T1 internship, they are unwilling to help me for reasons that I haven't been able to discover yet. [This needs another separate conversation.]

I truly need LI guidance on how to navigate through my endeavours to secure a T1 internship in May or June 2024.

Hey guys, please help me out here.. Gave CLAT this year and thought would get a good rank on my score, but alas as destiny holds, the final rank is not gonna fetch me even the top 5. Attempted AILET too and while I'm getting 90+ (as per the provisional answer key), seeing people score 100-120+ all over social platforms, I have lost hope. As a resort, I'm starting to look for other entrances at least for this year, and the LSAT's last date of registration for January's session is yet to be due. Jindal is I think only one somewhat worth considering. Talked with some of the people, and spent a couple of hours on multiple sites and what I getting is 'extreme' mixed views. So, if you have a couple of mintues to spare, maybe share your serious opinion about it. Thanks :)

People screaming at minority appeasement, go look at GNLU past scholars. And some hinting at Modi lobby, the selection of such scholars are oxymoronic.

Don’t discredit their achievements on political lobby & minority appeasement.

They are on, majorly on their own merit and achievements. Now do your due, look them up and form your own conclusion.

Indian law firms have no credibility or brand name outside of India. While the Big 4 is a brand name, even if they pay a little less initially. Everyone knows what a PwC, EY, Deloitte, or KPMG is, but you'll have difficulty explaining what a SAM or a CAM is. On a global scale, the SAMs and CAMs are irrelevant - while the Big 4 are called so for a reason.

Well, I just got invited to the wedding of a junior lawyer from a middle class family who is marrying the daughter of a verrry rich businessman! He will probably be quitting his job and running her dad’s business. What’s more, the girl studied abroad while the guy is a non-NLU grad. So such things can happen!

Mod, don’t mark this as trollish. I think the guy making the “minority appeasement” comment is not referring to the religion of the scholarship winners. Rather, he is referring to “appeasement” of lower-ranked law schools which are getting Rhodes at the expense of NLSIU. This is my interpretation of the comment. No doubt religious bigotry is shameful, but I don’t think the commenter means that here.

Hi, got an internship at JSA for July, would appreciate if someone could give what team from the following three would be the better choice 1) M&A 2) Corp Comm. 3) Private Equity. My current internship is at a smaller firm which does a little bit of all the above through a single partner. I would prefer the practice area where I would actually get to learn the most and possibly interact with the Partner as well.

Also, there is an option for "Late Night Latest" in their form, any insights into what time I should fill in there (also if would that really make a difference), thanks!

Honestly, I love coming to office. I started working in 2021 and didn’t do much work in the first 18 months since most of my team was WFH. I can see the difference after coming to office. Here is how it has benefitted me:

1. Learning is much more. I have just learnt from just sitting next to my seniors and discussing stuff with them with a print on their hand or revising the document together.

2. I am not working 24x7. Once I leave office, I am expected to have logged out.

3. Office infra helps. Simple stuff like prints and coffee delivered to your desk helps so much and makes life simple.

4. My team and I have been able to connect far better. I get to spend some quality time with them (including my partner) even though it means catching up over a smoke or a coffee.

5. Work is done faster. As opposed just trying to figure out what my seniors are doing and when they will review my work, I get to finalise the product together. Learning and reviewing are faster.

6. It’s helped me with my anxiety as well. My counsellor had told me that going to office and interacting with like minded people will help. She was so right. Earlier, I just wouldn’t no what to do when I wanted to take a break. Just ended up smoking in my room.

All, I am aware that Avirup is an amazing boss and has recently moved to Saraf and Partners.

I understand that he has been looking for associates and I am keen to apply to him. However, there are has tons of negative feedback about the firm (including on LI) and clearly the firm isn’t doing well.

What should I do in this situation? Ignore the feedback about the firm, and just go for Avirup OR just perhaps apply to someone who isn’t that great but is in a steady firm?

I understand that Avirup has moved with the entire team. Clearly he commands strong loyalty that people moved with him without giving two hoots about S&P’s performance.

My other options are Trilegal, Khaitan, CAM and Indus.

Eagerly look forward to receiving some guidance.

Years will go by while you will be simply pushing paper. Your friends would have moved on, parents may not understand what you do and money will no doubt drive you; but you will still feel like you could have done something more worthwhile, something less demanding, something which could have atleast kept you sane and at ease with the people you love and care for. Everyday is a grind and trust me after a point, you will realize that its not worth it. There is constant backstabbing, pressure to perform/get business and a lot of other bullshit which goes down behind the scenes. Would love to hear from my fellow tier 1 folks about how they feel about the hellhole we are all in haha.

1 & 2. Partners and Of Counsels

3. Drafting, strategizing arguments and briefing the arguing seniors.

4. The concerned team briefs the partner and then the partner briefs the arguing seniors.

5. They get to work.

6. Yes, of course.

7. Done by the firm tbh. The arguing counsels are simply there for the hearing and do not undertake in drafting most of the times.

8. Research and drafting replies.

9. Everybody, including the partner undertakes the research exercises.

10. Nope, they only brief the arguing counsels.

11. Mostly its commercial litigation but it can vary from case to case.

Lol, when NLS got its Rhodes, no other NLU was close because they were new. Now that the playing field has been leveled, of course it is affirmative action. You would rather bring down the prestige of Rhodes than admit NLS is not god's gift to mankind. xD

What NLS did in the early days is what is called in Bengali as 'phaka maathe goal mara' meaning scoring goals without a goalkeeper.

I understand your point. The thing is, I recently interned at a T1 firm and despite it being an offline internship, almost 90% of the communication was through calls/WhatsApp.

So I thought I might as well do an online one after my college reopens. I'll be doing an offline one during my internship break.

Can you please elaborate on how was the performance of specifically 2023 grads adjudged and why grads from this year are being singled out ? Afaik I’ve not heard of any A0s from this year being fired or put on probation (yet), so what exactly is the criteria being used here to mass blacklist a whole batch ?

Atkt - Allowed to keep term. If you fail.in less than 50% of the subjects you are allowed to keep your year. You just have to keep attempting the exams with the previous year batches. Yoh won't recieve your Degree until you clear all your Atkts. A very common system in Mumbai University.

Bhaiyo or Behno!!! Let's present ultimate guide to cheat in the exam.

- First of all, Padle jitna ho sake. Agar lag rha hai ki pkka fail hone hi wala hai, then only opt for cheating.

Bro! Don't ever that make that mistake. Pakde gaye to Disciplinary committee baith jaegi, back lag jaegi. But yes, some things like case laws hath pe likh lo, and then write all of them beside question paper. Go to washroom and wash your hands.

- write on Handkerchief: less chances of getting caught. Bcz kisko Shaq hoga?

- write imp key words of sure shot questions on water bottle and erase it after noting down.

- Paste chit of key word inside pocket, and tear it a bit ( pass hona hai to) , hone k bad andar daal dena chit ko.

- Aur yad rakh, nakal k liye bhi akal chahiye hoti hai. Pakde mat jana bas😭

I just want to try to answer, by giving you a quick perspective, but I also can't tell you exactly as I'm myself confused after seeing your question.

So, if you will be joining DSNLU you will have to pay more fee than IPU. But if clat 2025 also went bad, then ___?. So, just think twice before doing anything.

However, you may get good NLU by vacancy like till MNLU Nagpur or if you are lucky then may be more better.

( More sympathy to you bro! I know you were well prepared, just give your best in the next exam, have a nice day!!!)

Typical first years student argument 'I have financed my own education since sixth standard', what do you think LI is? A TV reality show? Where Neha Kakkar will cry and Anu Malik will say 'Aap Mumbai aa rhe hai' after listening to this?

If you think this statement increased the substance of your argument even a bit, then you're highly mistaken.

Regardless if I can afford flights or not, I have every right to complain about the prices, and that's what I have done here as well. It is people like you who find problems with everything and has a habit giving unsolicited gyaan at every opportunity you can without having any reasoning or logic in that gyaan.

Buddy, try to have some reasoning in your arguments, don't just press random buttons on your keyboard. It's LI and that's why you are safe, had it been a real world, you would have been rebuked for such unnecessary and unsolicited policing.

And please don't be envious of others.

Hi, please drop your stories (if any) where you almost got terminated/ was reprimanded/ was given a warning and you sort yourself out accordingly and worked on it.

I have been good so far but circumstances at home are making me lose focus and I’m shitting because I think I’m sending out a bad draft :/

Lol. Humesha ka ghanta bajana rehta hai ki Tier Ones hire from GLC, shamelessly concealing the fact that the PlaceCOM mechanics are SHITE. Imagine beefing and black listing a whole mass recruiting tier one firm because of one professor, bending over backwards towards inane firm demands that somehow are specific only to GLC and a process that allows for multiple hiring mandates to pass over to other law schools despite having the earliest day zero every academic year (which has been highlighted even by firm partners).

Take that chip off of your shoulder, dhindhora pitna band karo and maybe spend that energy trying to highlight this systemic issue.

Sir there is nothing like "wrongly convicted". Convicted means legal establishment of guilt. It is for the Appeals judge to overturn this order.

As with all judges who follow the law, this assessment is based on appreciation of Evidence and is an arbitrary exercise based on he facts. Therefore, unless your uncle is Sallu bhai, not even Harish ji can assure you a reversal order.

And what do you learn about financial markets at IB firms? Coming from a person who followed this path and know countless others.

Doing an analyst job only gets you to the financial drudgery of the same shit that gets done by CM teams. The same documents and papers, but more excel sheets. More numbers. This isn't tech, it's pure paper pushing, and mindless stuff that a CGI can easily operate. Its not fun, not interesting. 99% of the people want to shift to PE.

Coming to M&A Execution in IB. No, not different. You create pitch decks, which are templated presentations. You don't learn anything. It's the same shit. People leave, all of them. It's a glorified sales job, which will surely be irrelevant in a few years as more PEFs and HFs are running in house research and sales. Even a VP at such a firm is doing the same paper work. You are just another paper pusher.

If you want to learn the financial markets, you must read books. Do courses, ofcourse, the CFA helps. Not the work. You don't even need this knowledge for the work in IB.

The Real estate practice is primarily run by litigation chambers and these corp firm offices are only satellite offices, and have no business getting involved in these matters honestly.

Will ask you to intern/ work with well known seniors here who are great mentors and quite huge in the commercial real estate litigation that constitutes the disputed, about 75% of the land of Hyderabad

Child, I wouldn't advise you to attend a virtual internship, especially at the tier 1s.

These firms particularly have a lot of staff and work around, but not enough for over the counter intern delegation. But their intern intake is quite inflated for some reason known to the HR.

Therefore, selective delegation of work is practiced, and certainly online interns are not alotted the chunk of work, the kind of which you'd expect to be assessed over, for lack of connectivity and closeness to explain the details of the work assignment and elicit an intial response for preliminary feedback. Calls and messages are effective only once you break that barrier.

Continuing my comment onto a new thread. Hope your weekend was awesome. Looking for constructive feedback. Not really a rant post. Law students are requested to refrain from commenting.

There was certainly a zealous placement conducted in 2023, especially if you were to compare those numbers with that of the 2024 and 2025 batches, who are suffering dearly everywhere. Just look at the CAM intake.

Honestly, hiring is happening, but firms are being quite selective with recruitment because of the 2023 bunch, who weren't exactly quite meritorious with work either. It seems the quality of freshers has deteriorated quite considerably which has caused partners to prefer laterals. The market is actually pretty good in India and is swooned to grow soon, hence isn't to blame.

For emphasis, I repeat, the 2023 batch was really really disappointing in several firms I know, would like to know comments from partners in other firms.

Absolutely not. There was certainly a zealous placement conducted in 2023, especially if you were to compare those numbers with that of the 2024 and 2025 batches, who are suffering dearly everywhere. Just look at the CAM intake.

Honestly, hiring is happening, but firms are being quite selective with recruitment because of the 2023 bunch, who weren't exactly quite meritorious with work either. It seems the quality of freshers has deteriorated quite considerably which has caused partners to prefer laterals. The market is actually pretty good in India and is swooned to grow soon, hence isn't to blame.

For emphasis, I repeat, the 2023 batch was really really disappointing in several firms I know, would like to know comments from partners in other firms.