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You seem like someone with a decent enough insight of contract drafting and the corporate thing. You can cold message a few startup owners in LinkedIn that have potential or received a funding and elaborate what you will be bringing to the table and how you could help them cut costs if they hire you for catering their legal needs.
Even if it does not have a physical office or a good funding, it would eventually help your personal growth and experience. It would contribute to a much sustainable career in the long-run as compared to the other suggestions. Again, I'm just brainstorming how I would've dealt with it without any knowledge, so let's see what others has to say.
I hope you live a prosperous life! ⭐
- The admin is absolutely stale and has no vision for the university, has a ram bharose attitude towards administration, with absolutely hostile attitude towards students.
Case in point: Attendance Policy, no backlog policy, curfew timings, exam pattern etc.
- There is absolutely no dilution of student quality, NLUJ is probably the only NLU with no state based quota and amongst a few who have no OBC quota, with a batch strength of 120 from a very long time, I don't see any dilution from the side of the university, the pandemic has however changed things with many 3rd years having no basic knowledge of core subjects like crime, contracts, constitution etc.
- Very true, there is not a single permanent faculty in NLUJ, good faculty come and after seeing the contractual nature of the job leave, the court infact ruled against their contractual
and hire and fire policy (HC) but a stay on the same was granted by the SC.
Young faculty who join the university leave after getting their PHDs.
- I disagree Jindal and other colleges have not being able to steal the thunder of NLUJ just yet with NLUJ having placements at par to WBNUJS and NALSAR with a smaller batch size. We also have maintained the two vac schemes per batch statistic for a long time.
- Literally no support from the state government, due to the tussel between the two regarding the Domicile policy and appointment of registrar the University has not seen any flow of substantial funds from the government.
The VC refuses to bend over backwards for the receiving of more funds. (As evident by her speech)
- I can write whole paragraghs, what you call poor work ethic is just gen z standing up for their rights and not taking abuse from the superiors, as evident by the decline of ragging culture or be it students protesting for their rights against PPS and admin.
Just wait for 5 months, the tenure of PPS is about to end, I am quite hopeful that we as an institution will rise and again regain our past glory.
1. Clients want to cut costs and found out they can do so in many cases during pandemic as they were desperate to cut costs and now they have excuse of a looming recession. They will demand lower fees and often get it.
2. There are way more law firms to choose from compared to how it was 10 years back.
3. There is a trend of hiring more in-house lawyers for recurring legal work and going to law firms only for ultra specialised stuff
4. Tech tends to reduce billable hours and there are more innovative law firms and alternative services providers using tech reducing bill sizes
5. Big brands don’t command the premium they once did
This makes it harder to pay a lot more - but those firms that can always tend to pay more for several reasons.
1. Signalling to clients and talent in market that they are superior
2. Harder to quit once you are in - you are forced to put up with crazy stuff nobody will put up with if they won’t lose a very big part of their income
Lots of law firms could not function at all without paying significantly above market rate. But it really depends on how profitable they are.
If pay is not growing fast it’s because profitability is stagnant for years now.
This is the same everywhere, I read about a large listed corporate paying 2 lpa for its freshers to 2.5 lpa working for 5 years, and the same has not changed in 20 years.
Unless one firm increases salaries fundamentally, as you pointed out, there is really no incentive for firms to do so, unless they loose too many people by competition- for example the past 3 years in Biglaw, where Milbank kept increasing its scales quarterly, and other firms kept matching.
But considering the nearing recession and the fall of tech, revenues would crunch causing tier 1s to lose a lot, does not really seem someone would risk incrementing scales
India should take a stand on this issue. I personally wouldn't indulge into this world cup.
What do you all feel?
2. For example, read some article they read and offer to host a twitter space for them on that topic or interview them for some legal website. Most lawyers need and love that publicity and will engage.
3. next, ask them for an informational interview - please read up on what is that - just google it for gods sake
If you do this with 30-40 people, expect 5-6% to lead to informational interview over call or personal meetings. Some of these people may want to help you back and will put in a work for internship or job interview with their friends or even write you a linkedin reccomendation.
All the best!
I’m a lesbian & Me and my partner are living together in India. We want to get legal rights in India as a couple. Is there any way around it?
I can't solicit work in my own name as I am afraid of losing my main job, so I am currently dependant on a placement team of an edtech company where I did a course. Side by side I got a friend to create a profile on upwork and I pitch for projects using his profile, he can't do any of the work so I do it. its slowly picking up. I think at some point I will just leave my job and do this full time although my parents are telling me its better to stick to a stable job rather than freelance work given that a recession may be coming.
Its not easy to survive like this but I had no choice if I did not want to live in one room shared with 5 other people.
The mega mergers requiring complex Form IIs / phase 2 filings are largely concentrated at certain firms such as Trilegal, SAM and CAM. Don't recall Khaitan on any such matter
The complex enforcement matters will be found at Trilegal, SAM and AZB with others sometimes finding their way in. However, the "others" may not always be running the matter and may only be co-counsel roles
The day to day will also vary with the Firm (and the partner). Some partners encourage original drafting, some want previously approved templates to be largely adhered to - you can find this difference even within the same firm
If you're more active on the enforcement side, expect a lot of visits to the DG office on certain matters (my fellow cement vaale counsels, where u at) whereas a combinations centric role will differ in that regard
With respect to what is more interesting between enforcement and combinations, again, varies. Competition law is one of those practice areas where a large majority of the people have an intellectual interest in the subject / had such interest before they entered the practice. I'm an enforcement nerd and detest combinations but some of my friends in the practice area get their kick from their silly little combination overlap assessments
Perhaps the better question(s) you need to find answers to would be -
1. What kind of work do you enjoy more - combinations or enforcement? Try to slot yourself in a firm that fits your profile
2. What kind of work does the firm you're getting an opportunity at do if you don't have the luxury of picking the firm you're working at
Working hours will be worse on the combinations side because all notifiable matters are very big transactions and there is a high likelihood that you'll be seen as an imposition in some matters because no client likes to go to a regulator to seek approval. With the potential of the long stop date, life can be hell on some matters
ah, yes, the homogeneous category of 'wokes' who are all the same - because political discourse is never on a spectrum, based on a variety of factors and variations of thoughts. It's just us v/s them, obviously. Got it.
What’s worse is because these two camps are so divided each camp generally has not nice things to say about the others. While academics are accused of living in ivory towers and not knowing the practice of law, practitioners are accused of getting by on jugaad and not knowing the law itself thoroughly, and perhaps of making unethical choices. And this seeps into how students behave at internships and in classrooms. In the end we’re not building a community that has a common goal but one which is deeply divided and not doing enough to equip the kids with
all the skills they would need to be better than we are at this law thing.
It’s talking about identity as a way to think about how the institution affects different people differently. And that should be fair game. I know as a woman I have been slotted into sister/ mother role in academic settings. Even when I have the best qualifications in the room no one will compliment my intellect - only how nice I am. I know that male academics in my experience have less trouble maintaining class discipline.
I know that not having enough scholars rise through the ranks who do belong to diverse communities affects our research. The law isn’t like math- not all answers to questions are going to be the same. In fact the questions we ask when we see a problem might be different based on our own place in society. It’s a messy human affair and I think in trying to flatten that messiness by saying well identity doesn’t matter , we just lose a lot of knowledge. Identity isn’t everything, but it is something.
It matters that most people go through law school not having read Ambedkar. I graduated from a top law school and it wasn’t till much later that I read any Ambedkar. I was a worse scholar before I had and law school didn’t prepare me enough cause all my savarna men profs did not think it was worth teaching Ambedkar.
Pointing to individual exceptions I think only emphasises the rule.
I did my LLM in 2008-09 and had to fund it myself (with some support from the university I went to), since I didn’t have the social capital to figure out how to get the better known scholarships. Back then I thought I was just too stupid for them. I'm a first generation lawyer from a single parent home, and my mom had limited means. We still rue that she didn’t have money to attend my graduation for instance, although she did pull out all the stops for the essentials. So the financial stability - being able to pay my loans and care for her after graduation - was critical for me, and the economics in academia didn’t make sense.
I began to work with a law firm but also signed up for teaching commitments for core and elective courses at various schools, broadly between 2009-2018. When I began, I was young, I had to negotiate hard with my firm to commit time to teaching, I thought I was good at what I did, and so I was disappointed that my teaching experience was mixed. The smaller seminar classes usually had very interested students. In the core classes, while there were committed folks, it was sometimes a struggle to get students to do the basics like get bare acts to class. I used to spend a lot of time and effort just thinking about how to engage them. So I constantly asked myself the same question - how is it that during the LLM there was this expectation that people would prepare and show up, and they did, and why was it such a challenge here, when they were evidently capable of applying themselves otherwise? It isn't easy to ask yourself this again and again without doubting yourself.
Students operate under stresses of their own and I strongly believe that their attitudes are usually not driven by mal-intent (there were folks who failed my class and then came to me to confess that they had gone to admin to get their grades bumped because they couldn’t afford a repeat - the admin those days used to process these requests without consulting or informing the teacher). There were some who were obviously dealing with mental health issues. But there was also sometimes a lack of seriousness and maturity in relation to the classroom space which can be depressing when you invest so much of yourself into conceptualising and preparing. When the classroom experience clicks, it is electrifying and helps you engage more deeply with your subject, but very often it feels like an uphill task to just get through. I also had a difficult time dealing with plagiarism concerns, with limited support from the admin, which put me off teaching for a while.
There needs to be a fix for this situation which results from a combination of factors, where teachers have high teaching and admin loads, students are young, maybe still finding themselves, and universities still often spaces where power functions in traditional ways. I don’t have an answer, but my workaround (a personal choice) has been to never fully commit to either world. Academia gives you a lot to be optimistic about and I have found it important to not let go, although I now prefer to teach less and read and write more. In retrospect I also think that my experience as a practitioner has fed into my academic work and vice versa, but that's a separate conversation. But the choice involves trade offs. It means that your place in either world (“progress”, if you want to think about it in a linear fashion) will never be at par with those who do either full time. But if that situation leaves you happier at the end of the day, perhaps that’s ok. Thanks Megha, for initiating the conversation.
@OP: You may also get in touch with Anoop Surendranath from NLUD if you need any pro bono legal assistance about this matter. Or anyone who was part of the Swadhinota Project at NUJS Kolkata.
https://www.barandbench.com/news/corporate/tech-lawyer-jaideep-reddy-joins-trilegal-as-counsel-in-tmt-practice
NDA was also the only India based advisor/ business partner of FTX per the list published by Forbes:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/javierpaz/2022/11/10/stripe-deloitte-sullivan--cromwell-are-among-53-ftx-advisors-vendors-and-bankers-weathering-exchanges-collapse/
Jury: Prof. Arvind | Prof. Akeel Bilgrami | Prof. Mriganka Sur | Prof. Chandrashekhar Khare | Prof. Shrinivas Kulkarni | Prof. Kaushik Basu.
The prize comes with USD 100,000 (82 lakhs)
Sudhir is the third Law School alum after Shamnad Basheer and Lawrence Liang to win the prize. This is a slap to his troll haters on LI. I have said before (and will continue to say) that these trolls are very likely students of other colleges who are jealous that Law School has Sudhir has VC. As I have also said before, these people will be better off campaigning for an alum VC at their own college instead foo.
The prize also demolishes an argument made on LI (by the same trolls, I guess) that having lots of publications is a proof of academic scholarship. Lawrence and Sudhir have limited publications, as their haters point out. But what the jury clearly did (correctly) is to look at quality over quantity. Thus, Sudhir has been awarded the Prize for "his carefully argued account of the importance of the landmark 'basic structure doctrine' adopted by the Supreme Court in 1973". Sudhir has made this argument only in his book "Democracy and Constitutionalism in India: A Study of the Basic Structure Doctrine", published by OUP. Thus, a single well-argued book or journal article is better than thousands of pointless books and articles. If you go by numbers only , then the Jindal VC has tons of international publications listed in his bio, but Sudhir has so few that he lists a Legally India article on his bio! https://www.nls.ac.in/faculty/sudhir-krishnaswamy/ Also, ironically, Shamnad had various international publications but was actually awarded the prize (rightly) for diversifying access through IDIA. 😃
Finally, Professor Kaushik Basu deserves a special mention for backing Shamnad, Lawrence and now Sudhir. He has been a big supporter of Law School alumni in a academia and also invited Lawrence to give the prestigious KC Basu Memorial Lecture, joining the ranks of Nobel Laureates like Amartya Sen and Stiglitz and people much older than him.
Congratulations once again to Sudhir and Law School!! In future, my picks for the award are two more alumni (Menaka Guruswamy and Gautam Bhatia).
With regards to practiality, talk to your lawyer about the whole process- the main challenge will be the sentence (unless by SC) to be transferred to the court of where you want it to be transferred but usually its a formality. If it is a short travel (say 5 hr drive) then police tend to drive them by road but in your case more likley to be an overnight train ride. Most prisoners are escorted for night trains. It wont be a pleasant ride for her, because she will most likely will have to sleep under heavy police escort and most likely even tied with a rope to one of the escort officers (who will be a woman!). Sorry about your situation.
Especially where she says that practitioners say that academics are not 'real lawyers' seems very peculiar to India because a large number of law firm partners have PhDs and a large number of professors are law firm partners abroad. This batshit crazy rule of BCI to bar practice of academics does way more harm than good. Even for those who are full-time academics and in legal theory, nobody questions their legal mind saying they would not survive in court - precisely because their articles are cited by lawyers in courts.
Further, unlike most foreign countries, we do not even have a single academic on the Supreme Court even when there is a constitutional provisions to do so. Combined with the meagre pay, why in the world should anyone be in academia in India? That is not sacrifice, that is stupidity, unless you are willing to strive to change the system completely - which you cannot do singlehandedly.
I know the author has lately caused some controversy with her behaviour, and she admits that she hasn’t been the perfect teacher. But would it be worthwhile to take a beat to actually reflect on what’s going on in law schools?
Are female professors really this overburdened with care work? Reflecting back on your law school days do you think people treated female faculty differently?
Why is there a culture of dishonesty and “jugaad” rather than academic integrity? Did you cheat or use unauthorised means or plagiarise for work in law school? Why/ why not?
Is it just because students are under so much pressure with so much work or is it because there is a culture of dishonesty? What can we do to address this problem?
How does the academy reform to keep its young faculty who come in with idealistic notions about what their day to day job should be like?
Do we open up law teaching to practitioners at least a bit more than we are doing now so that people don’t have to make hard choices about teaching or practising and can do so side by side?
This was one of the winning submissions of the Open Data for Justice Challenge hosted by Agami.
Please look through the data before downvoting!
1. It will depend on the workload of the Partner/law firm. If they have decent workload, you will get some quality work otherwise run of the mill grunt work including secretarial work. Do not consider, secretarial work as a bad work. Just learn this kind of work, may be useful at a later point in your career.
2. It is very common. Some may not wait for 6 months. Now, since you are already working, I do not know if you did any DD around the Partner / law firm before accepting the offer.
3. Yes, it will. Try and complete atleast 2 years. If the work place becomes too toxic, then leave. No point in sticking where your mental and physical health is compromised. Career choice is a very personal choice. Please consult your mentors, teachers or any one on whom you have trust to guide you through this.
write application letter in your handwriting (mention your contact no.)
then enclose Resume with that
then book OLA/UBER
and give that to HR manager & tell them
i would have sent a mail but bcoz i love this firm
i used different approach while applying for the same
i got several internship through this trick. I think in that boring ecosystem , they love maverick approaches
https://www.lawsociety.org.uk/topics/international/how-to-become-a-solicitor-a-guide-for-international-lawyers-and-overseas-students
2. If you are a law grad but not qualified lawyer in India, then just get registered in India first then write sqe
Degree is not an issue here as some people who have heard things about QLTS and don’t know anything much about SQE would suggest
Also some universities like university of law in the UK will tell you that you need to do a bridge course first to write SQE - not true. Foreign qualified lawyers can write sqe, no bridge course needed.
If in doubt, write a mail to law society and SRA, they would respond.
Remember- do not try to qualify as a foreign educated law student, try to qualify as a foreign qualified lawyer.
All the best!
There are also people who genuinely like this profession - for a variety of (right and wrong) reasons. I may not be able to charge 20L per hearing, but I do make sufficient living and arguing in court does feel like my passion.
Been practicing independently for some years now. Law was by choice, and continues to be so.
Perhaps you need a career change (and some therapy). But don't think my active choices that led to my success are by chance merely because you did not like this profession.
SEBI at least for Legal Officers is an incredibly lucrative job. There are many Judicial Services toppers across India who are still writing SEBI law officer exam.
I am a judicial Officer in rural maharashtra - I have friends in law firms, chambers and all government offices. I will tell you why nobody moves from SEBI -
1. Insane Salaries - Starting salary for a fresher (CTC) is far far more than a Judicial Officer and even top law firms (18LPA)
This salary over the years can go upto 40LPA - all inclusive.
2. MUMBAI - forever in Mumbai. Imagine? Most Government jobs have harsh transfers all across India. Most of SEBI Legal work is done in Mumbai. Same office.
As a Judicial Officer - living in Mumbai is a dream come true. Most of your life is wasted in rural Tier 9 towns.
3. Career - you can go almost till the top in SEBI.
You will get extremely interesting and complicated work.
As a judicial Officer mostly you will end up as a PDJ. HC/SC Judgeships are almost reserved for the likes of Chandrachud's, Narimans, Lalita and other big family names. Initial 10 years of your judicial Officer life you will be stuck up with stupic cases and dumbest lawyers.
4. Work Life - Obviously 100 times better than at a law firm. SEBI is a 10 to 5 job. I have heard it's more convenient than even a Judicial Officers job.
+ STABILITY - Salary till 60, as long as you yourself is not a fraud. You won't be fired.
So
My POV, I WON'T understand why should people even leave a sebi law officer job.
Have heard a few names of those who exited SEBI and started Hardcore boutique Securities Litigation law firms.
I am not saying that nepotism does not exist, it definitely plays a key role in High Court appointments and elevations but as the data shows, the elevation to the Supreme Court in most cases in primarily on merit while factors like relationships with SC/HC Judge/ Prominent persons in law do play a key role.
BUT even if they are not from "justice" family ultimately those who get elevated have contacts and blessings from big families and chambers. By big families I mean the right circle. It is natural to have contacts with big lawyers and justice when you are 3rd or 4th generation. Not a big wonder. Infact, most established lawyers I know in my district are not even charmed by elevation to HC- not their children.
It was a shock for me. They text and have whatsapp conversations with most justices on Bench in HC. Altough, their is not much favoritism which I have seen but yes friendships are there. Justices are HOOMANS too haha. That helps in getting elevated ,getting designations and work on table but jot getting favorable orders. It is very very rare.
As far as justice banerjee is concerned her senior's spouse was a sitting justice in SC when she had joined practise in SC. You can research more like this.
I kid, I kid. To be honest, you do find time for your hobbies. Maybe the starting couple of years it might be difficult but it does get easier once you have a little more control over your timelines.
I watch a lot of anime and have a sizable manga collection. Lots of friends read, play cool sports, play instruments. It's important to have a hobby to distract yourself from work.
Coming to the question at hand:
Mug up the Panama Papers and you will surely ace the interview, if there is ever a call for an interview.
PS: I still have some hope that LI will publish my comment (even if it is embellished with various flairs)
2. It should unique to yourself. (Not necessarily, but preferably)
3. It should potray a keen sense of curiosity for law. ("...")
4. Your attitude should reflect that you justify your reason for being in law, which would be quite difficult if you make up a random answer.
I honestly don't think he would judge you on the basis of why you chose law rather than your work itself.
For me it's because I didn't want to be an engineer like everyone else, law caught my interest, I delved into it, I enjoyed it. Answers that are simple yet reflects the honest nature of the person seems the best to me. Cheers! 🥂
But what would also be helpful is numbers (either actual statistics or ballparks based on personal observation): how many SC judges are self-made, that is:
1. Don't have any first/second degree relatives who are SC/HC judges, Senior Advocates or otherwise lawyers with well-established practices
2. Don't have any first/second degree relatives who are influential politicians and could've plausibly given a significant leg-up (and material support)
In general, it's a good idea to cover all basics. But just to give you a starting point:
1. A&C Act (obviously): Be familiar with the bare act, fundamental concepts and jurisprudence, recent developments (ex: Vidya Drolia, vvv important). The greater command you can develop over this, the better.
2. CPC: A vast and complicated subject. There are two parts to it: substantive principles (res judicata etc) and procedural rules. Make sure you have a working idea of the principles, don't necessarily need to go into too much detail. The rules, I honestly can't tell you what to focus on. I've been told it only comes with practise. Hopefully someone else can pitch in here. IMO, try to study the lifecycle of an arbitration and see at what points can it lead to litigation (suit for submitting a dispute to arbitration, dispute over existence of arb agreement, appointment of arbitrator, challenge to an appointed arbitrator, application for setting aside etc), then study the procedures related to that.
3. ICA: basic concepts, schools of thought, international instruments, application in India. (if relevant).
Beyond that, it's still a good idea to study all commercial laws well, because they'll form the subject matter of the dispute. Contracts always comes in handy, TPA, Corp and IBC (if your team handles NCLT/NCALT appearances) etc. Heard of a disputes team doing an IP matter once, but I don't think that's v common.
Good luck!
r/law schools
r/law firms
r/politics
r/culture
You can even merge politics and culture. Then only 3 divisions.
I believe reservations should be capped the same family cant be allowed to use its over three generations (or some cap like that) considerations of income should be a factor. There should be continuous public data about from which demographic(location/ people who are the second or third generation in their family to use reservation ) so that the Government can make the system efficient and the public is aware that the sacrifices that the general category make are being used for something. This data should be publicly available and the government must be forced to directly make changes in policy and ensure public systems are in place so that people in need of reservations can actually avail them. I would love to see the data from the beginning regarding how many people who avail reservations are the first in their family and compared to generational quota users. And how that ratios between these two categories has changed over the decades.
(Anecdote- I helped our colony's vegetable vendor's son to fill in a post office Clerk form, the education he received in Government schools in Delhi is atrocious he got unpractical vocational subjects, he is not the one getting into IIT based on reservations, he doesn't have the bare minimum qualifications to even apply to DU beyond vocational courses which again offer no job security. When the Government for the last couple of decades has let the Government Schools systems deteriorate for so long often the people who use reservations come from families where there Grandparents broke the cycle decades ago and only these people can take advantage of the system. Again I understand this is not true for all cases, but this still needs to be addressed in policy considering that reservations are going to going on for several decades to come. But when the government lazily just keeps increasing reservation without doing the background work, reservation is not having the intended effect and it comes at the cost the general category. And that cost needs to be taken into consideration when forming policies)
It is also especially infuriating that the actual institutions that have the ability to directly force and compel change/ empower disadvantage communities directly irrespective of whether society is ready or not i.e., the Judiciary(HC/SC) and Parliament (Important Departments/Committees) don't have reservations.
@Moderator: Any chance of that happening?
https://indiankanoon.org/doc/184814091/
Yesterday, the FIR was quashed after the intern reached a settlement with the lawyer:
https://www.barandbench.com/news/litigation/karnataka-high-court-quashes-fir-against-lawyer-accused-of-harassing-throwing-water-bottle-at-intern
Remember that a few years ago, another girl intern at another firm in Bengaluru committed SUICIDE after she complained of being repeatedly sexually harassed by the partners of the firm. It was widely reported in the national news and TV channels leaked an audio recording where the girl intern was being pressured to withdraw her complaint. But the case fizzled out and the accused lawyers are happily practising.
I think it's really sad that the cause of interns who are not from NLUs are not taken up by NLU students.
I propose we should just select French as the national language and be done with it. Would be fair as everybody would start from scratch; well, except for some people in Puducherry. It is also a fairly international language and enables access to even more international markets combined with the existing English competence.
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En raison des récentes controverses entourant l'imposition de l'hindi dans le pays, l'anglais a été proposé comme une alternative neutre. Cette proposition a été attaquée comme étant empêtrée dans les carcans intellectuels du colonisateur.
Je propose que nous choisissions simplement le français comme langue nationale et que nous en finissions avec cela. Ce serait juste car tout le monde repartirait de zéro, à l'exception de quelques personnes à Poudouchéry. C'est aussi une langue assez internationale et elle permet d'accéder à encore plus de marchés internationaux, en combinaison avec les compétences existantes en anglais.
I do not want to leave Law, but if so many rejections are coming my way, I don't think I would have much of a choice.
PS: Anyone with a constructive suggestion or a way out to help, please get in touch. Those who wish to say things on the lines of "you are incompetent", "it is shameful that you could not land an offer anywhere even after so many interviews", "you are not cut out for this profession", etc., etc., please do not reply. So much of negativity already. The last thing I need is more of it.
Rite of Passage
"Did I not tell you this was due this morning?" His face falls, the morning's greetings forgotten.
"Yes, but..."
"What is the issue? Can you not handle the deadlines given to you?"
I see him flinch. I can tell that his mind is working to come up with a suitable response. Forthright admission? An excuse? A promise that it won't happen again? Frankly, it doesn't matter.
"I really tried, Amy, I was up most of the night," he says finally. My lip curls at his hangdog tactics.
"I didn't come in to work today to debate your sleep cycle, Raymond." He blinks. I suppose I've become more creative with my quips with each passing associate. "I came in expecting the memo at my desk." I could raise my voice, but today I don't feel the need. I watch him rock on his feet, wishing he'd stayed up that one extra hour. Or two. Good. Out of the corner of my eye, I can see people watching the exchange, a dint of pity in their eyes. And guilty enjoyment. Everyone loves a good scene.
"I'm sorry, Amy, I...it won't happen again," he mumbles. "Please give me one more hour."
"Do what you like, Raymond. I'm not going to pick up the flak for your weaknesses." I turn away, but not before I see him tremble as he returns to his desk.
"Do you really need to bully him so?" Rosalyn asks, stopping by my desk.
"Oh, come on. We've all been there. How will they learn unless we rough them up. Anyway, coffee?"
Advisory mandates: Advice on proposed transactions, advice on secretarial matters, changes in the law, setting up a new business vertical etc
Transactional mandates: Getting deals done. Could include M&A, a promoter's exit, hostile takeovers, anything. Starts with due diligence (legal risk assessment), negotiation of the deal and provisioning for the risks identified and finally drafting transaction documents and closing the deal.
Other than this, about 20-25? These are the people who will know everything about my life; we are always available for each other, but won't have time to interact or meet daily.
Then, acquaintances - with whom I interact once in a few months? These would be a lot. Definitely more than fifty.
Maybe I am categorising them wrong? Idk. This profession needs you to be social, build networks. I feel mine isn't big enough lol.
I got a backpaper and life was fine. 10 years from there, it is what it is, a blip.
You need to just keep working hard and focus on cultivating contacts.
Many people with poor grades do well in law. This isn't a be all end all. Hard work pays off.
I eventually applied for extra time, managed to clear all my back papers and I graduated successfully. It was a long and hard road to get there, but I did it! For the first time in a long time, things were looking up for me. I felt like I had finally achieved something. I didn't sit for placements, but I applied for a job on my own and I got it because someone took a chance on me. Fast forward to today, I've been working for over 4 years. Sure, I've switched jobs, been in between jobs and I've experimented and tried different things in my career, but I think in a couple of years I'll finally be where I want to be. The point is that even after everything I went through in law school, I'm still here and I have a somewhat stable career. I'm very fortunate. And that's all that matters. A couple of years after you graduate, nobody is going to ask you what percentage you got in that one subject in your 3rd year of law school. Your work will speak for itself. And you will have plenty of opportunities to prove yourself.
I've made a lot of good and bad choices, and my failures far outweigh my successes. But without my failures, I would not be the person that I am today. And that's why I'll always be grateful for them. So don't let this one tiny failure bother you or discourage you. Use it as a source of strength. Surround yourself with people you love like your family and close friends, who will always be there for you and support you no matter what. Take the re-exam or re-assessment, whatever it takes, and pretty soon you'll be graduating with flying colours! And you'll get a job on your own steam.
So all the best, take care and do well! And please get back to me and let me know how it goes. Cheers!
Fixed Salary is 2.8 lacs per month = 33.6 lakhs
In a good team the PA will bill around 2.5 Cr to 3 Cr annually. Taking base as 2.5 Cr the 10% commission will be around = 25 lakh
The Bonus is at 12 Lakhs. Assuming you have billed 2.5 Cr, the PA will definitely get full bonus.
Total = 33.6 + 25 + 12 = 70.6 lakh. This is assuming 2.5 Cr billing. Some PA's bill more than 3 Cr as well.
I an average team the billing will be around 1 Cr to 1.5 Cr. Assuming at 1Cr billing then 10% commission will be around 10 Lakhs. Therefore, under an average team the PA will be earning around 33.6 + 10 + 10 = 53.6 Lakhs.
Hpe this gives perspective. As it all depends on your billings.
The new counsel is not so unknown. He was particularly active in the COVID PILs and took Harish Salve head on.
Defendant had filed O7R11 for dismissal. Judge tried to push his counsel to withdraw or otherwise he would impose heavy cost. Defendant refused to withdraw.
Moazzam Khan's part is all wrong. Nishith Desai had replaced him with Anuradha Dutt last year as he though Moazzam was unable to stop the defendant from sharing the leaked data and the story with Black Money Commission and journalists. But the truth is that this case got messy not because of Moazzam but because of inane strategy of Nishith himself. Moazzam was just made a scapegoat.
1. Registration of corporate guarantee as charge with the ROC is a grey area
2. In practice, it is not registered as charge with ROC
3. It has been observed in few cases that the SL/TS has provided for filing of corporate guarantee as charge with ROC as a CP/CS
4. Vis-a-vis public at large and prospective lenders/investors, corporate guarantee issued is a contingent liability
5. It will be useful to also read the Supreme Court judgement in IDBI Trusteeship Services Vs. Hubtown case
Hope the above will be of help.
Now that that's out of the way.
Everything exists in a context. There are two types of context, usually:
1. The context of the issue itself. Affirmative action in the US and reservations in India are VERY different.
2. The broader socio-political and legal context of the jurisdictions. US and India contexts for both of these are very different.
Please stop trying to apply developments, positive or negative, in other parts of the world to India.
Also - how do you even define merit? What is merit?
- The way students protested against injustices by faculty, e.g. V Nagaraj and Shortsgate
- The way students/alumni united and protested to get Sudhir appointed, with an alum even meeting SC judges
- The way alumni are lobbying for exclusive National status for NLSIU and got the BCI to support their claim in the Karnataka HC. Alumni and ASG Vikramjit Banerjee argued in the Karnataka HC that only NLU is a National university, other law schools like NALSAR and NUJS are states ones, which the Karnataka HC upheld. The matter is now before the SC and alumni are similarly arguing for exclusive National status.
- The way alumni are donating in recent years
- The Covid airline evacuation of migrants through the then TATA GC
- In general, the way alumni back each other and the institution ,whether in good times (job market, foreign scholarships etc) or bad (#MeToo scandal involving an alum)
Do we see this unity in the case of other NLUs?
Literally national bureau of economics research stuff has proven this.
But you saw a rich Dalit once so it has to all be a lie no? Y’all need to read more.
What I will say is that study well in the future semesters, try to shore up your grades/rank - it is not the be-all-end-all marker, but it is the first thing any recruiter sees. And build your CV through strategic internships and extracurriculars. Good luck!
Secondly, if you clear the paper eventually, it won't show up on your final marksheet. Now, what is final marksheet? The one you'd get at the end of your course.
People fail all the time. It's okay. I got a back in 4 subjects throughout my law school, and I did just fine in placements.
I've also seen people getting year backs and then flourishing in their careers later. You'll be fine.
In my BA, LL.B course, I only learnt useless quotes like this one by Bertrand Russell:
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts."
Nevertheless, if you’re interested in fashion and money isn’t a factor, go for it.
Just call us the 'forgotten generation'. :P
I need not take names as everyone’s aware that one of the ex employees of livelaw have made it really big in the industry and is at a top position in a top law firm at a very young age. Another young ex employee has become a household name with her current stint in a leading media organisation.
Hope this information helps.
1. Bajrangi has changed his lawyer who does not appear to be well known (have not seen him previously)
2. This new lawyer was complaining that the defendant has not been supplied with a copy of the plaint even after 3 years. Anuradha Dutt appearing for Plaintiff refuted but the judge directed her to provide defendant with the entire case record. Anuradha Dutt strangely said that Plaintiff has annexed the firm profile of NDA in a sealed envelope and does not want to give it to the Defendant even though they have relied on it in her plaint. I could not understand why is NDA's profile in a sealed envelope and why does Plaintiff want to keep it confidential.
3. The counsel for the defendant also asked the Judge to dismiss the suit because there is no substance in the plaint and the Plaintiff is refusing to supply the complete plaint. The Judge was furious and threatened to impose heavy cost on the Defendant after which the counsel backed down but said that he will move O7R11.
4. Anuradha Dutt started arguing that the Defendant be put behind bars for his persistent contemptous conduct. She started narrating some long story on how the Defendant had stolen data from one of the lawyers of NDA who happens to be his estranged wife and now using this data to target his wife. Defendant's counsel refuted and stated that the Defendant is a whistleblower. Then Anuradha Dutt read some orders of the predecessors where a contempt notice was issued to defendant for handing over a hard disk to black money commission, but this order mentioned that Defendant had filed complaints with some statutory body through another advocate. She also read another order where J. Harishankar had recused himself. At this point the Judge said that this matter is going to take time and put it up for next year in January. Anurdha Dutt protested and asked for a short date but the Judge did not oblige.
5. Anuradha Dutt also mentioned that Defendant was making a movie on this case and that he should be restrained but the judge ignored. She also mentioned something about Mozzam who was the Plaintiff's counsel earlier which I could not understand. She said something like that Mozzam had written to Defendant that he had gotten him fired from this case.
This suit is some drama. Bajrangi was present during the hearing. I was hoping that he would be some hunk given the pseudonym ▮▮▮
Clarification: never worked there and I do occasionally run ads there. This is an outside perspective.
1. They offer remote work and very good pay compared to most litigators and small law firms. Fast salary growth.
2. Most people don't want to leave livelaw even for a substantial pay hike which probably says a lot about their culture
3. They hire a lot of people in small towns, so attract a lot of very talented people who don’t have big city options. We also do that and occasionally found livelaw making offers to the same talent, matching us or offering better
I didn’t expect this because I was of the opinion that they probably don’t make much money. But it appears they do pretty well.
Fees - 10L (minimum) per Hearing excluding all other costs. Per year he will be making atleast 25 crore.
They were celebrated because it was the age of promise. It was the age when people started looking forward to things. It was the iphone decade of the century where everything was coming together and things were just preparing for launch.
There was purity, innocence and optimism. There was real hunger to do and to achieve. There was a lot to create and build. There was discovery and adventure (precisely because there were no distractions).
1. Lack of in-house resources due to size and speed of a transaction.
2. Requirement of an external opinion to buttress view of the in-house team.
3. Requirement of an external opinion by a counter-party.
4. Litigation matters where an external counsel is required for arguments. (note: many in house teams prepare their own plaints etc. and there is need to hire external counsel as in-house counsels cannot argue in courts due to Advocates Act and BCI Rules).
5. Expert advise on a matter where in-house team does not have expertise.
I believe that frustration of the author is from the fact that many law firms (including several tier 1 law firms) claim expertise on certain matters but when it comes to delivery it turns out they have no idea. Their expertise was based on an individual who has long moved on from the firm, or some deal/ due diligence they did a while back where they came across a similar issue. This is frankly a rampant and unfortunate practice.
Frustration might also be coming from the fact that hourly rates of T-1 Indian law firms are not very far from Magic Circle law firms, and the quality is no where close. Also in many cases it is unfair to pass on costs of learning onto a client as a law firm had claimed to be an expert on a topic and then tries to charge 100s of hours in research time as they realised they had no idea what they were upto.
1. RW media houses discussing it up front and bashing the Wire (e.g. Republic, Times Now, OpIndia etc)
2. Liberal/LW media houses limiting the coverage (e.g. NDTV, NYT, WaPo etc)
However, some important questions have been raised on Twitter which unfortunately both RW and LW media are not bothering to discuss . These are:
Questions the Left is asking:
1. Could the Wire have been the victim of an elaborate trap? Just like Nidhi Razdan's fake Harvard offer letter?
2. What will happen with Amit Malaviya's defamation case? Since the Wire has been constantly criticising the judiciary, could the judiciary now "teach them a lesson" and slap a huge damages award on the Wire? Which judge will hear the case?
3. Also, why has Malaviya said he will file both criminal and civil cases? why the need for a criminal case here? Will the Wire editor be arrested?
4. What the is role of star NLSIU alum Pranesh Prakash (CIS founder) in all this? In many respects, it is he who demolished the Wire's story by contacting cyber experts. He has also been taking sly digs at liberals in recent tweets. Why is Pranesh doing this? Is he/CIS batting for Meta? Or has he shifted his ideology to anti-woke libertarianism, similar to Elon Musk and Joe Rogan?
Questions the Right is asking:
1. Why has the blame been based on a relatively low-level reporter, when the report was in the name of someone senior in the Wire and this person defended the story vigorously on Twitter (Jahanvi Sen)? The theory put forward by some Twitter users is that the junior reporter is a humble non-nepo kid from Bihar, whereas Jahanvi's lineage makes her influential in the Delhi liberal ecosystem (according to Wikipedia, she is the daughter of Jayati Ghosh and the late Abhijit Sen).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abhijit_Sen
2. Many liberal think tanks and newspapers declared India to be an autocracy and ranked India low on press freedom based on the Wire's Tok Fog report. Will those claims now be revised?
The likelihood of this is just rarer, because NLU students have access to better resources and more successful alumni who help them out. But there's definitely no "wretched schemes" as you are alleging, most international competitions are run by independent organisations and judged by international lawyers who honestly probably can't even distinguish between NALSAR and NMIMS.
If you want exp for litigation later on, going for litigation directly may be more useful. If you want to have a corpus before you jump into litigation consider corporate because the pay including bonus will be much higher as to what you get for a disputes team. Tier 1 disputes A0 salaries were as low as 8 lacs.
If you're a dog lover, adopt, don't shop!
There is a dire need to regulate breeding and sale of dogs.
Sterilization of stray as well as pet dogs is important.
Once I prepared an invoice and gave the hours consumed.
Partner outrightly told me to increase the hours by two or three times.
I did.
The Client paid.
The reality is that these law firms are stuck in a time-warp. They used to charge such inflated bills for consuming a good number of hours in the pre-internet era. However, the internet era generation needs lesser time (almost by 50%) to find out about things.
So we get things done quickly and cheaply - something the older generation is not used to.
Now their client-relations have been going on from 90s since when their bills would have made sense. They look inflated only to the present generation who is benefiting from a lot of advantages of access to faster and comprehensive information.
However, the leading law firms are not realizing this and they are stuck in their own zone.
Either they wake up and stop over-charging than what makes sense in today's time. Clients shouldn't be paying the bill for their old habits and anachronistic working styles. Else you know a new buster scruggs is out on the horizon hunting for their clients.
I often come across the first cuts of the draft which on the face of it are riddled with errors (typo as well as conceptual) as a result of which I end up spending half a day doing a page turn with the external lawyers, which could have been easily avoided only if someone in their team bothered to have a re-look before sharing the drafts.
What I do not understand is lawyers use market practice as a justification for their ill-thought-out and under-researched advice. When I questioned a lawyer for blatantly questionable advice on the applicable stamp duty for our transaction, I was given a list of ‘so-and-so’ of the market who in past have happily taken such views on applicable law.
Dealing with the dispute partners is a different ball game altogether. For them, everything borders on the principle of uncertainty and “you know how Indian courts behave sometimes” advice. As a GC, try explaining these to your investors or your board.
I think there is an inherent quality issue in the legal practice irrespective of the big names involved.
"Allthatglistersisnotgold;
Oftenhaveyouheardthattold...."
Make sure every task that's expected requires a time estimate approval.
Make sure to identify the seniority of resources at work for you.
This is why none of your concerns get sympathy from others- cause you don’t demonstrate sympathy for anyone except the image in the mirror. This is what breaks movements.
You should be able to have more complicated multiple discussions at the same time. If you want to boil everything down to your specific complaint- you’re just never going to learn how to be in a society.
The world has come a long way since analytical positivism of the HART/ Raz variety. Recent advances in legal theory take place in the critical legal theory realm- a Kimberley Crenshaw or an Ambedkar in the Indian context have said far more interesting things about the law than most of the folks named on this list.
I think the relationship between good performance at both is more related than not. If you’re a good student , you likely know more than the average intern and have more discipline and better work habits. Hence you’d be a better intern.
But let's examine this more closely
So, depends on a number of factors.
If you're talking about intellectuals who deal primarily in first principled arguments and maybe jurisprudents in that regard, especially when it comes to the strength of their assertions, the first name that'd spring to mind is Chhatrapati Singh. I would contend that his work is much better than Hart's work will ever be. But then again he's no more so I guess that wouldn't qualify as "today's academia".
If you're talking about scholars who influence the law in the way the mentioned have, the answer would be none. Nobody has done that sort of work in India or maybe even abroad for that matter.
Or if you're talking about the mere popularity of their work, even then nobody has the status of that of Hart.
So, based on all these factors it would appear that our intuition is right. Nobody today has the status of Hart or Dworkin and appears like nobody will in the near future.
However, it must be stated that there is a lot of scholarship from India that is great in it's own regard. The mere fact that they're not like Heart or Dworkin doesn't take anything away from their work.
Did not smoke up for a year after graduation. Frankly, that was a stupid decision - coping with all the stress and the completely changed life (and lifestyle) would had been easier if I could relax with a joint once a week.
Now, I smoke up once in 2-3 weeks, mostly with friends or occasionally alone/with my SO after a dense week. It hasn't affected my work in any manner. It hadn't affected my grades or social circle in college in any manner. Overall, I find it a decent recreational activity to chill with - the key is that you have to balance your normal life along with it, like with any other recreational activity (say, gaming, partying, or whatever helps you cope with this profession).
Solutions are so obvious they need not be stated, and have actually been described well by commentators 1.1 and 2. Please read those if you haven't already.
And for all our Make in India pride we have relatively few pet owners who happily adopt Indian animals. (I've seen all kinds of foreign breeds including Siberian Huskies in Mumbai.)
It's horrendous that babies and children have been hurt. But a 'mass culling' is the laziest possible thought process, not to mention inherently completely unethical. It's evident that the human species is the most parasitic and destructive on the earth. We could well see a day when the rich and famous argue for a 'mass culling' of the rest of us. Let's be brighter than this please.
To summarize - go to rateyourmusic.com, explore sub-reddits like r/indiepop, watch reviewers like TheNeedleDrop, read articles from review sites like Pitchfork, et al., and then start really getting into music. Music in the 21st century is no where close to bad. If you think it is, you've heard way, way, way too little music in your life.
A comment above has suggestions to music to listen to. While their music is good, they're also generational stars who are in fact, mainstream cultural icons. Here's a list of things to listen to in 2022:
1. Hip-Hop - Kendrick, Danny Brown, Billy Woods, JID, Jay Z, Ka, Clipping. Tyler, the Creator, Freddie Gibbs, Jpegmafia, Injury Reserve
2. R&B - Thundercat, Frank Ocean, D'Angelo (Last record, 2014, Black messiah, great album)
3. Rock - King Gizzard, Tame Impala, Black country new Road, Black midi, Beach House (Dream Pop is a form of rock music), Daughters
4. Metal - No clue, actually. I love my old school bands. Newer ones I'd probably say look into prog metal, djent bands and test them out.
5. Others because there's so many genres - Sufjan Steven's, Thom Yorke, Denzel curry, Tim Hecker, Deaths dynamic shroud, lil simz, pharaoh sanders, weyes blood, car seat headrest, ye (music, not opinions), Cudi, swans, death grips, mid air thief.
There's so much to listen to bruh. Just explore and see what the 21st century has to offer
Other things- mail on a wednesday/thursday; arnd lunch time.
All the best!
In contrast, many more students appear for judicial service exams today, including from the general category. I think the change in attitude can be attributed to the following reasons:
1. A culture of seeking govt jobs among the lower-middle classes (as opposed to the affluent and upper-middle class) and a rise in students from this segment in NUJS (and other NLUs).
2. A tough job market. Unlike earlier years, there is Jindal to compete with, plus newer NLUs like MNLU and NLUO. TCs are rare and Big 7 jobs are harder to get. Successive Indian govts have failed miserably at job creation and the refusal to liberalise the legal sector has added to this.
3. Successive Indian governments have failed to create the Indian Judicial Service, which would have the prestige of the IAS and attract the cream of the crop. So students wanting to start off as judges have no other option.
Disclosure : I worked with the Financial services team in 2018. Left to start my own practice.
Yes, their financial services team has around 30% market-share in Financial services practice area in India. The investment funds practice and PE/VC practice is also generating really good revenues. The firm has seen around 88% growth in revenues (YoY) in the past year.
Their pay is higher than most of the T1s across all the pay-bands. All the team members in the team always have 1-2 standing offers from T1 firms but the attrition is low due to better work-life balance.
Although the other teams are not as good and Changing teams after joining is not possible at all.
I started with 2-3 joints a week to now 4-5 joints a day.
I tried quitting but, even though i never faced any physical symptoms, i felt like i am missing that spark in my life that i used to have before i became an addict.
I am usually more depressed and sad as compared to my pre addiction mental state.
My friends tried to make me quit but i always shrugged them off saying that its not bad for my health, and I'm not an addict, i can quit smoking anytime, you dont have to tell me what to do.
To be honest,
I sometimes feel slight pain in my lungs while coughing (might be inflammation from all the vaping and smoking up). My sports performance has reached it's lowest point now. I am ashamed of myself, I'm depressed and need help but can't ask for it as I myself keep denying every help my frends offer me.
I wasted two years of my college life in smoking and now I'm mentally retarded, weak, full of regrets and sadness and to deal with it, i have to smoke more which is not a viable solution for health in the long term.
Sorry to share my story, but if you take away anything from my story,
It'll be this -
Do not ever get into smoking, nd if you do, make sure that you have a self checking mechanism in place, or else, you'll become a a looser, and an unhealthy living corpse who is lifeless without weed.
P.S. - if you think or believe smoking weed is not harmful , then you are either too ignorant, too dumb(livin in a rainbow world), too brainwashed (by weed smokers' logic), or you are lying to yourself too much.
Read some real research based studies, educate and be honest to yourself.
2. It must be assessed by a SC bench if "socialist" forms a basic structure of the constitution
2. The 13 judge bench decision in Kesavananda Bharati would have to be overturned by a larger bench for there to be such a constitutional amendment (preamble part of it)
4. practically there's no real value, as the preamble is neither enforceable nor justiciable, there's no real difference other than a symbolic value
5.Perhaps when the right BJP govt stays long enough with a better majority to have a say in the composition of SC Judges majorities, it could be removed cuz clearly it holds no value in the modern indian society
2. Bhaumick Vaidya's team of CAM
3. Mehernosh's team of Tatva Legal
4. Saket Mone's team of Vidhi Partners
5. Vini Joshi's team of CVCO
6.Kanga & Co.
7. Wadia Gandhi
8.Purnanad & Co.
9.IV Merchant & Co.
10.DSK Legal
11.Trilegal
12. Sandip Vimadalal & Co.
and loads of other
I've made a list of artists for each era of music below. The list isn't definitive, but it's all that comes to mind right now.
50s: Elvis Presley, Chuck Berry, Ray Charles
60s: The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who, Simon & Garfunkel
70s Rock & Metal: Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Queen, Black Sabbath
70s Pop: ABBA, Bee Gees, Stevie Wonder
80s Pop: Michael Jackson, Madonna, Prince, Lionel Richie, Whitney Houston, and so many more!
80s Rock: Def Leppard, Guns N' Roses, Bon Jovi, U2, Dire Straits, The Police, Bruce Springsteen and so many more!
80s Metal: Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Metallica, Megadeth 🤘🏼
90s Pop: Backstreet Boys, Spice Girls, Mariah Carey
90s Rock: Nirvana, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Rage Against The Machine, Tool, Foo Fighters
90s Rap: Nas, 2Pac, Biggie, Jay-Z, Snoop Dogg
2000s Rock: Linkin Park, Green Day, System of a Down, Queens of the Stone Age
2000s Pop, R&B & Rap: Beyoncé, Britney Spears, Usher, Akon, T-Pain, Chris Brown, Eminem, 50 Cent, Justin Timberlake
Modern Pop and R&B: Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak, The Weeknd, Ariana Grande, Taylor Swift, John Mayer
Modern Rock: Arctic Monkeys, Tame Impala, Paramore, Kings of Leon, Florence + The Machine
Happy listening!
I am not very familiar with the AIBE and related nitty gritty... so you should check with the BCI of your state for better advise.
We likes Tamil Nadu. They gives cycles to girls, they gives free stoves and gas, and they gives rice at 2/- a kg, and cash grants so that students stay in school.
We likes Chattisgarh. They gives free meals to the poorest workers, and they give phones to women (increasing economic and social indices, my precious, but surely you know network effects).
We likes the idea that spectrum and coal are owned by everyone, including the villagers in Odisha and Jharkhand, and we likes the idea that spectrum and coal revenues go into building roads, schools and hospitals for them.
But, but, but, my precious...
What do you mean by "socialist"? Or by "leftist"? Or by "Marxist"? Big words, all, and beloved of anti-Modi anti-nationals (even the BJP governments that routinely spend on the same schemes you hate). If you are a lawyer, you can surely articulate what "socialism" is, and what the fundamental problem with socialism is?
Are you unhappy with high taxes, my precious? Does a change in the tax rate from 33% to 36% mean that you have to cut down on LV bags and Rolexes? Worry not, my precious. There is excellent advice at hand.
It's not my advice. It is YOUR advice. The same advice that you give to the tired and the poor and the huddled masses yearning to breathe, my precious.
Do you want that LV? Do you want an honest life? Do you want that Omega Seamaster? Do you want to send your kids to school? Remember your advice, my precious.
Work hard. Earn money. Don't be lazy. There are enough opportunities around, if you just put your mind to it.
Certain older firms will never properly let you build a book or build relationships with existing clients and certain newer firms expect you to bring in clients as soon as you are able to.
Certain practices have only a handful of big mandates in a year and you will forever be a partner in name only as the big names dominate the field, and in others you are one in hundreds and will have to really fight to get clients.
Generally, most lawyers who have been in firms for 8+ years will have no issues doing the work in front of them, but very few can bring in clients (especially big mandates) on their own.
It would be really, really inadvisable to pick a practice on the ease of becoming partner. You need to survive for at least 8 years, and then be able to get work from your senior partners or new clients. You cannot do the latter without either being very passionate and knowledgeable about your practice or just being the charismatic enough to overcome a lack of passion / knowledge (which 99.999% of people are not).
Check the no. Of combination filings made every year.
Also, the no. Of investigation orders passed every year.
After that, decide for yourself how large the cake is.
In hindsight, I'm not sure if we should be remembered as heroes or condemned for being bullies. History will judge us...
Hear me out: At NLUs (no idea about private), I have to teach for 2-4 hours DAILY, which I have to do here fortnightly leaving actual time for research and other things. So it is also not JUST about money, even when JGLS pays 3x that what NLUs may pay. European universities pay 6-7x (US universities would pay 8-9x but living costs are 2x that of Europe). For the record, many NLUs just do not even bother granting interviews to foreign-qualified candidates: happened with me and too many friends for it to be a mere coincidence; not speaking about NLS though - have no experience.
I was thinking Ashoka may be legit quite good because they have a thin teaching load but they do not have a law school (even though they have some law subjects taught in other degrees) so they need only a couple of law professors which they already have.
Moreover, if I want to have a family, I do need a stable job location-wise, you see; I just cannot work for five years in Delhi, then five in Mumbai and then Bangalore. It would be unreasonable to demand that from my partner.
Few private universities pay that salary, most pay less. Jindal pays much more, but it will differ for differently people based on negotiation. Freshers recruited as junior or senior research associates there with foreign LLM degree usually start with around 1-1.2 lakh per month. Assistant Professors with around 1.5. There's no slab as such for people at higher positions. Hope this answers your query.
Both BO23 and BO24 are to blame. 5th years are behaving like everything is OLT. While men from 4th year have lost their senses, they feel getting a girl is a tick they must have to get PPOs. Everyone is getting into relationships like there is some musical chair of relationships being played. This just shows how pandemic ruined general mental wellness of people causing loneliness and yearning. 2 years down the lane 95% of couples will say "break up ho gaya yaar LDR kaha ho pata hai". This is temporary. Feel embarrassed a bit.
Have faith in your abilities and box above your weight category. Trust me, alumni base or lack of it will not mean a dime to you.
Firm partnership is all Trilegal. Overall good, strong NLS, NUJS, NLU and CLC bias for hiring.
Office in VV is quite nice.
All in all, I would say its a solid tier 2 practice area (for the largest mandates, the M&A/corp equity partners take the lead - like Aswath at AZB). This crypto stuff I have never seen, probably tech focused firms must be doing it.
I'd say give it some time, intern at boutique firms, try different areas of law (like IPR, ADR, Competition Law, Environmental Law etc. etc... yk the list is endless). Also, work at different roles- maybe you'd end up liking research or academia more than core practice? You'll never know until you try.
To make you feel a little better, I come from a non-NLU, above average private law school. Graduated this year. Had 4 offers and 2 confirmed assessment internships. Joined a boutique firm just a week after my final exams. Thought that was it, that I had my career sorted, I'd grow exponentially in the coming years. But life had other plans and I had to quit in barely 5 months. I realized practicing law wasn't a sustainable option for me. Thankfully, I had tried my hand at academic research and writing in law school and I know my love for research. So I decided not to concentrate on what I couldn't do anymore, but on what I can do and like doing. There's always a second chance, and thereafter a third chance, and a fourth one as well. You can choose to give yourself as many chances as you like before you finally stumble upon what you truly love doing. It's okay to not like what the majority is after.
Declining relative to what it as like pre-2018 ish, but going up relative to Post Covid.
2) More recruitments based on expertise (at least academically and internship wise) in arbitration? Or is litigation still the telling factor?
Arbitration and Litigation are virtually the same, my dude/tte. Most T 1 teams do both. The Arbitration Act is just a procedural code replacing the CPC. You still need to apply the concepts from CPC and Evidence Act in Arbitration. You need to draft and file Pleadings, frame issues, do admission and denial of documents, marking of documents, filing Affidavits in lieu of examination in chief, and do cross-examination. All of these tasks involve the same requirements and skill sets as a traditional litigation.
In Disputes, there is no hyper specialization, unless you do Criminal, IP, Tax or Securities (notice how all of these also involve lis in rem).
3) Does a specialized LLM help if I want to strictly do arbitration in a tier 1?
Sure, but it is not a requirement. Also there are few if any specialized arbitration LLMs. The entire Act is less than a 100 sections for christsakes. You can't build an LLM program around that. A Litigation focused LLM will be just as good.
Email follow-up could be just a simply reply to your initial mail. Keep it short. End on a hopeful, positive note.
And if you don't get any response or get rejected, know that it's absolutely okay.
How and why Indian men are so horny / shameless / entitled that they jump at the opportunity to make every conversation into about rating / finding (or crib about not finding) hot women. It's quite pathetic and makes women feel like they are judged on some scale of "hotness" all the time - even at their workplaces. I'd imagine lawyers to be better than the average creep roaming on the street, but evidently not.
I would recommend that the OP find himself a hobby that involves something other than thinking with his penis.
I visit Bombay every 30-40 days on work, so I still end up visiting the nice hotels and restaurants. But after a while, you realise that some of it is overhyped. No doubt the Golden Dragon at the Taj Bombay is excellent, but the Chinoiserie at Taj Bengal is also quite good, as is Mainland China. As for Theobroma, there are so many bakeries across India that make cakes and brownies which are also very good.
Bombay remains my favourite city in India and it's the closest India can offer to an International city, but if I have to pay Europe-style prices to live there, then I'd rather live in London or Paris :)
Assuming, but not conceding, that this post is legitimate, my answer would be yes. Not-so-good-looking guys have, and can, end up with very attractive women, and the same is true for the opposite. Attractive men are not always vain, and definitely do like women who are more than just a pretty face. They look for far deeper aspects to your identity than how you look; your personality, presence, sense of humor, kindness, dedication, warmth, principles, etc. are all traits that attract a person to you, be it platonic or romantic. Those, in the long run, are more important to someone who wants to have a long term relationship with someone. Even for casual sex, vibing with someone who you relate to is way better than chilling with some boring/fake/annoying individual, even if they're smoking hot.
Secondly, you may look at yourself as an ugly duckling but pls, that may also not be true. It's very easy to fall into this spiral of self loathing and lacking the confidence of someone who you'd consider to be conventionally attractive. Learn to love yourself dude. Having a mom bod is normal and theres nothing unattractive about it. Its a normal thing. And if you really don't like how you look, improve on your body and work on it. Join a gym, work out, eat fit etc.
With respect to your query and issues surrounding your self confidence - I would summarize by saying 1. Yes, conventionally attractive dudes can also like women who are not conventionally attractive; and 2. You look fine as per your description. Relax
As a parting note however, don't have work place dating/sexual relationships for Christ's sake. It's weird on way too many fucking levels and can easily escalate into POSH, either by you or him. Like it's especially serious or awkward at the workplace. My suggestion - please refrain from fucking your junior of all people. Just put yourself out there and get a dating app like I don't know man. It's risky, your degree of separation as colleagues and friends/lovers will bleed into one another, it'll complicate things between you two, and there's no guarantee that you'll make it out in one piece.
I hope this answers your question and you aren't going to do something dumb. Also please just get a dating app don't fantasize about your junior.
By the time I was done, my sanity was left far behind and the world around me felt like a pulsating beast. Soon this euphoria turned into a barf fest followed by the Great Blank. It was only on account of my extreme dehydration that I woke up only to find my cell phone dead and the clock ticking at midday.
Rushed to the data room with my senior emanating that disgust-filled death gaze. Could barely look at the document forget about taking notes. When I reached my hotel, a similar disgust-filled death gaze from the Manager and the housekeeping staff welcomed me. I had to pay around 25K towards the refurbishment cost/penalty before I was asked to vacate the premise on account of the sudden unavailability of any room at that point in time.
That 25K credit card debt along with the applicable interest was nursed by yours truly for another 4 months i.e., the time I took to find another job. I guess it's water under the bridge now and I seem to have fully recovered from that incident emotionally, however, as far as my CIBIL score is concerned, that perhaps is a story reserved for some different thread.
In an NLU, there's not much expenditure apart from infra (that too, only if you're looking to expand). In that context, it's actually baffling that they're asking for 15-20L in the first place. The reason fees are so high is probably just that students are willing to pay that much (if you're cracked an entrance exam heavily reliant on English, chances are you're from a decent family background).
Sure, it may be argued that law firms give decent packages and you're getting the money back in return (the IIM argument), but this is just assuming that people prefer taking a corp job. Having high fees discourages folks from pursuing academia or litigation (unless you come from a good background).
'235. Judgment of acquittal or conviction.—(1) After hearing arguments and points of law (if any), the Judge shall give a judgment in the case.' In cases tried summarily, s. 264 applies and it says '264. Judgment in cases tried summarily.—In every case tried summarily in which the accused does not plead guilty, the Magistrate shall record the substance of the evidence and a judgment containing a brief statement of the reasons for the finding.'
The 2006 CrPC plea bargaining amendments also use 'judgment', as in s. 265F, which says, '265F. Judgment of the Court.—The Court shall deliver its judgment in terms of section 265E in the open Court and the same shall be signed by the presiding officer of the Court.' Then, of course, there is the entire Chapter XXVII on judgments which exclusively uses the spelling 'judgment.' The CrPC does not once feature the 'judgement' spelling.
Okay, now the Constitution of India. #11.1.1.A specifically cites art. 374. What does it say? Let us read: ‘374. Provisions as to Judges of the Federal Court and proceedings pending in the Federal Court or before His Majesty in Council — (…) (2) [T]he judgments and orders of the Federal Court delivered or made before the commencement of this Constitution shall have the same force and effect as if they had been delivered or made by the Supreme Court.
(3) Nothing in this Constitution shall operate to invalidate the exercise of jurisdiction by His Majesty in Council to dispose of appeals and petitions from, or in respect of, any judgment (…).’
What is the appellate jurisdiction of the Supreme Court? The Constitution says ‘132. Appellate jurisdiction of Supreme Court in appeals from High Courts in certain cases.—(1) An appeal shall lie to the Supreme Court from any judgment, decree or final order of a High Court (…).’ Now, I will not reproduce each and every section here, but arts. 132-137 exclusively use ‘judgment’ and so does the entirety of the Constitution of India. Nowhere is ‘judgement’ used as commenter 11.1.1.A claims as (false) evidence.
Not enough evidence? I got you fam. The CPC exclusively uses 'judgment' (except for one s. 24 which was a 1976 amendment). What does the court pronounce after the case has been heard? Let us read s. 33 together, shall we?
'33. Judgment and decree.—The Court, after the case has been heard, shall pronounce judgment, and on such judgment a decree shall follow.'
Okay, but what does a foreign court, pronounce? A judgment, still. See ss. 13 and 14. The same spelling is used in the CPC Orders and Rules, e.g., OIR4, OXIIR6, OXIVR2.
The Oxford English dictionary, which is as definitive as it gets for the English language, mentions specifically that since the 19th century 'judgement' has become a common spelling, flipping the trend found in the 17th century where 'judgment' was prevalent. However, British legal contexts and American English continue to use 'judgment' as the spelling for court pronouncements. This is why 'judgement' means, well, 'ability to make considered decisions' and 'judgment' means 'A decision formally made in regard to a matter under consideration in a court of law' as per the OED.
I know many of you may not have paid subscriptions to the OED so as to get this information, so I have uploaded a screenshot of the entire page here, with highlights on the relevant portions: https://we.tl/t-QeNlrHI6Nf
So yes, I stand by my stance that 11.1 is dogshit, even more because of their reply in 11.1.1.A. I thought this would be obvious to people, but not only is that blatant misrepresentation a 'featured' comment but is also a highly upvoted one, not ‘contested.’ My comment is trollish and contested – way to go LI! TIL that ‘contested’ does not mean fact-check failed, because clearly the featured comment was not fact-checked, and I thought mine was so obvious I could presume this knowledge in a forum for lawyers.
Law is a job that requires such a level of alertness. In that sense, it is a job that requires an element of physical fitness to do. Mental fitness and this fitness is a function of a lot of things. You are only at your best if you are well rested and are able to engage in this evolution requires you to engage in. These things are like socialisation and taking care of your family/home life. These requirements are an evolutionary imperative.
This was one of the reasons the 8 hour work week emerged during the industrial revolution. A worker is more productive when well rested and that compensates for the worker to be unproductive for longer hours. Even then, you can justify longer hours if it is a job that does not require a high level of alertness or as law firms and the legal profession calls it "Attention to Detail" and "responsiveness".
But unfortunately law firms have not realised this. This is why the industry standard in India is mediocrity. Think about it. We are the largest common law nation in the world. Why is it that the world then turns to London and New York for their legal work? Why can't Indian law firms be that good that the Magic Circle competes with us? This is quite possible, for Indian law firms could just hire dual qualified advocates, practice foreign law here (as consultants, while being enrolled in India only) and have formal counsel in local jurisdiction sign off on their work/opinions. Heck, dual qualified Indian lawyers could be globe-trotting counsel working out of Fort, Bombay instead of trying to show off getting conference room access at some foreign chamber on LinkedIn.
Its time we realised, that if we are working on 3 hours of sleep, our work is bound to be terrible. Mistakes will happen. Slip ups will happen. This will make a bunch of already sleep deprived people very angry. They will then shout at people. People will get yelled at. The culture will turn toxic.
Indian legal employers need to realise that there is no point just having an enrolled person sitting in a chair. To have them perform at their best they need to have rest and leisure time. This has to be a non-negotiable. Indian firms need to fight overwork if they want to grow. If people aren't taking breaks, force them to. Have mandatory recreation leaves. (Audit firms already do that). Keep them mentally engaged in what is going on. Otherwise they just can't give their best.
So if you're screwing up, it really is not your fault. The people who manage your workplace, they need to get their act together to ensure you have a climate in which to thrive. It is in their interest. Quality builds loyalty both among your employees and clientele. Young firms and lawyers need to fight overwork by competing on quality rather than quantity. Overwork is an enemy. A sleep deprived lawyer who can't focus is useless to everyone.
Just a rant.
In any case, if your point is to refer to the orders from courts to decide what the correct spelling should be (what an absurd methodology!), you may also find usage of the word "judgement" in:
Code of Criminal Procedure
Constitution (Art. 374)
The words "judgment" and "judgement" interchangably in:
Delhi High Court Rules Chapter 11 - https://delhihighcourt.nic.in/writereaddata/upload/CourtRules/CourtRuleFile_AF9J1IE4.PDF
Commissioner Of Income Tax vs Sunil J. Kinariwala (Supreme Court) - https://indiankanoon.org/doc/952721/
Ge Capital Transportation vs Rahisuddin Khan (Del HC) - https://indiankanoon.org/doc/1987479/
R.K. Aggarwal And Others vs State Of Haryana (P&H HC) - https://indiankanoon.org/doc/145651945/
Simply search for "judgement" on SCC and several thousand results come up.
It's just pathetic what anonymity allows people like you to do - resort to absolutely disgusting method of discourse while not even being correct.
So a short answer to your question is: Yes, you will still be able to get all of that.
As a general tip, just try to make up for the grades in other ways: publications, moots, other competitions etc. Make your CV such that anyone who looks beyond your grades to other headings simply has to get impressed.
And then, assuming that you're in NLS/NALSAR/NUJS, push your student internship committee to get more firms, especially in your preferred practice areas. You'll be surprised as to how easy it is get T2 internships, at firms that pay more than 10L and such, if their known practice areas are either niche or considered complicated by most.
For instance, LKS & ELP for tax law, ICUL & Lexygen for funds, Anand & Anand for media law, Keystone & P&A for arbitration etc. are very well-regarded and pay decently — but will most often be overlooked by most people in T1s. Start your internships at places like these. Build your CV, and then branch out.
As for placements, rest assured. I've seen people getting their degrees in 6 years and still ending at Trilegal/Luthra/Indus etc. One mere subject repeat would hardly make any difference, if the rest of your CV shows that you'd be able to work in whatever area you're going for.
None of this is supposed to suggest that you need not work hard. This is merely to inform you that you very much have a good shot at everything you want, regardless.
All the best!
Read more at:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/94773673.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst
https://www.reuters.com/legal/transactional/dentons-combine-with-indian-law-firm-link-legal-2022-10-11/
Quote: Is this allowed?
Read the representative assessee concept under S. 161 - 164 (or thereabouts) and the concept of determinate and indeterminate status of trusts. Then why that doesn't apply to Cat I and Cat II AIFs under Section 115UB - which gives them a pass through on their investment income. There are a couple of circulars around this which came out a few years ago (I want to say 2014/5 but could be wrong). Cat III AIFs are still impacted by Sec 164 representative assessee issue and thus they don't make much sense in India. Maybe also read the AIG AAR ruling on determinate trusts and the circulars which explicitly refused to follow that ruling.
To round this off, read the fairly recent judgement on application of GST on carry (ICICI Econet) and some commentary on why people disagree with it. I'm yet to read this one myself.
I've never checked the sections which impact REITs and InVITs but I'm sure you can get a good understanding in less than half a day.
I'm neither a funds nor a tax lawyer, so you can see how simple it is. Just don't let anyone feed this into your head that tax is hard or difficult to understand.
"Judgement" and "judgment" are both accepted spellings.
[quote]Judgment can also be spelled judgement, and usage experts have long disagreed over which spelling is the preferred one. Henry Fowler asserted that "the OED [Oxford English Dictionary] prefers the older & more reasonable spelling. Judgement is therefore here recommended…." William Safire held an opposite opinion, writing, "My judgment is that Fowler is not to be followed on his spelling of judgement." Judgement is in fact the older spelling, but it dropped from favor and for centuries judgment was the only spelling to appear in dictionaries. That changed when the OED (Fowler's source) was published showing judgement as an equal variant. Today, judgment is more popular in the U.S., whereas both spellings make a good showing in Britain.[/quote]
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/judgment
All you had to do was a simple Google search buddy.
There may be better critiques of that article. Come back with those.
https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/190605-Ghosted
Tread carefully new mod :)
2. WhatsApp chats corroborate the testimony of the prosecutrix. They show the kind of relationship that existed between the main convict and the prosecutrix. They also show the multiple blackmail attempts. Messages literally saying I will ruin your life, buy a sex toy, send me photos right now or there will be consequences ("hungama").
The coercion is very well shown, especially when considered in light of the testimony of the prosecutrix (let us not pretend that the WhatsApp chats are the only evidence. An entire trial was held with the top lawyers involved. Had something substantial come out in the cross-examination, that would had been raised before the HC as well. Rather, the lawyers use Tukaram (lol) to say consent ki definition hi galat hai.
3. Where is it even coming from? The HC gave Vikas Garg the benefit of doubt, it does not mean that the prosecutrix's version is false or unbelievable. He got the benefit of doubt because the WhatsApp chats are insufficient to corroborate the parts of his involvement. So due to lack of corroborative evidence, he has been let off. Not because of utter lack of evidence. Not because the court believes he was falsely implicated. But only because the court did not want to convict him based solely on the victim's testimony (which, too, is legally permissible btw).
Where do you even come to "vengeance"? From which part of the judgement - or any other material - do you gather that any of this was for vengeance?
I know most of you here are law students and are taught to question everything, think critically, et al. But ffs, apply the critical thinking properly, and not just for the sake of it. Read the judgement, see the chats, see the arguments. All you appear to have done is raise questions to doubt the judgement without any basis. Zabardasti ka devil's advocate only to cause victim blaming.
Most senior counsel will focus on high court work, while the skills needed to be a criminal defense litigator will be best acquired in the trial court. You have many more years and internships to go. Good luck!
As for the law, having laws in English makes it easier for practitioners from across the country to practice the law. Why would you want to add a stumbling block to people from one region to practice the law that is applicable to all?
Certainly go for it, BDO is a very prestigious post especially if you live in North India, the avenues of promotions are also very good you will be elevated to All India Services after a decade of Service.
No one gives two sh*ts about Corporate Lawyers outside the Corp Law circle.
The prestige and connections which you recieve after joining the service is unparalleled.
You can always quit if you don't like it.
Depending on the law firm and the prep provided the SQE needs to be competed between 30-40 weeks. Not 20 months.
AT CHANDIGARH
Reserved on 28th July, 2022
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CRA-D-653-DB-2017 (O&M)
Karan ....Appellant
Versus
State of Haryana ...Respondent
CRA-D-662-DB-2017 (O&M)
Hardik ....Appellant
Versus
State of Haryana ...Respondent
CRA-S-2396-SB-2017 (O&M)
Vikas Garg ....Appellant
Versus
State of Haryana ...Respondent
CRR-3142-SB-2017 (O&M)
X ....Petitioner
Versus
State of Haryana and others ...Respondents
CORAM: HON'BLE MR. JUSTICE TEJINDER SINGH DHINDSA
HON'BLE MR. JUSTICE PANKAJ JAIN
My father, the sole breadwinner of the family passed away last week. It is now me, my mother & two younger sisters. Up until this point, he was paying for my college but after his passing, we are left with no steady source of income. Accordingly, we are considering an education loan.
I’ve had until this juncture rather limited interaction with banks. I have an account in SBI and from what I’m aware, can get a loan up to 20 lakhs without a tangible collateral security. Further, SBI provides 0.50% concession on the interest rates to girl students, so there’s that.
Can anyone kindly simplify the nitty gritties of the process? Explain how exactly does floating interest rate works? I would be immensely indebted if someone can take time off and provide an example, hypothetical or personal of the process and the repayment, just a gist would suffice.
I haven’t confided this news to anyone at college as I personally need more time to collect myself but I plan on confiding to a professor soon.
I’m also exploring other avenues to finance my education which I feel professor(s) can guide me better to but not withstanding that, I would be beyond grateful to have my question w.r.t education loan answered.
Thankyou.
No chance they are going to give you SA when your batch people who are home grown are stil A3.
At the same time - growth stagnates after a certain level/years of work and the work environment can be very toxic. Therefore the attrition rate is extremely high.
I would still recommend freshers right out of college to give it a shot since you will be made to work on matters of substance in the first few days of joining itself