While my 2 years of capmarks were great (solely in terms of money), I had to start from scratch while making the shift after constant back and forth with the partners at hand. Very few people are really cut out for this practice area man, it is difficult and tedious in every way possible. Please be completely informed before freezing a practice without considering every aspect involved thereof.

NUJS, imo. Since you are from WB, you shouldn't have much difficulty adapting. But there is a catch. The batch size of the UG LLB course at NUJS will now rise to around 180+ students, similar to NLIU Bhopal and GNLU Gandhinagar. NUJS also has domicile quota seats. I think NUJS' recruitment would be negatively affected in the future since the quality of the BSc LLB in forensic science is suspect. Their BA LLB is fine but that's also been surviving in repute mostly due to corporate placement numbers rather than high-quality teaching or research. It's a tough choice between the preferred BA LLB at RGNUL versus some new specialised course. But RGNUL is much worse than NUJS overall. So stick to NUJS.

Good thing the Mod has Atleast marked this as contested. Should be trollish too. Trying to get this trending, you idiot commentator? Your hashtag is crap and NLUD won’t give a s*it. Your arguments are all nonsense too. The higher studies list from the internal NLUD document is till 2015-16. The data submitted in NIRF is for 2021-22. And research funding is given for multiple years anyway so no issue in including that for future counting.

And all universities have included visiting faculty as part of their total number including NLS and NALSAR. The only valid criticism would be salary figures but even then, no one here has any data on how its calculated or the prescribed NIRF procedure for it (if there is one). All you clowns who are bashing NLUD should realise that NLUD has already ranked 2nd in NIRF for multiple years even before this salary issue, and back then our salaries were way more moderate. You can keep trying to pretend that your colleges are better and have some great integrity because they’re part of the useless CLAT but it won’t work because deep down you also know that regardless of NIRF, NLUD is a better institution than your NLU.

lesser scope of growth as compared to other practice areas towards the top, lot of entry barrier, clerical nature of work and existence of only few firms that put in quality work - AZB, CAM, SAM, Indus, S&R, KCO, JSA & Trilegal. The only good thing about the practice is the international transferability of skills without having to do an LLM to secure a job abroad. Speak to an insider in one of the firms as have been mentioned above to be better informed about the stress and burnout that the nature of work in this "niche" practice brings. Avoid it at all costs and go for practice areas like Banking/M&A/Disputes, you may be better off.

I get where you're coming from, but that's discrimination. An institute of such stature must ensure not to implement such dividing measures.

After qualifying for the entry, everyone should ideally be given the same amount of respect, regardless of their petty CLAT ranks.

NLUD, the only NLU to officially submit false data to authorities year after year.

Also the only NLU to hold a sham of an entrance exam to fraudulently extort money out of thousands of law aspirants every year.

Also the only NLU to keep shouting about its amazing research output and then get marked low on research publication quality when checked by third party sources.

Also the only NLU to have its VC run away in the middle of his tenure and join a rival NLU.

Finally, the only NLU not to know the difference between mean and median.

Big 3? What Big 3? And only a defeated troll like you would ask others to admit defeat when they are doing well in their own right, just like NUJS and its students have been all these years despite all the hate. Check the actual scores, it is firmly in the same space as NLUD or NALSAR. The spurious perception score does not matter. And this despite NLUD's regular lies and false stats.

Why? Seems justified to me. Good perception comes from good admin, good infra, good faculty and good communication of achievements (the NUJS website was effectively out of date for 8-9 years under Ishwara Bhat and the temporary VC after him, and even now the website is ugly and lacks information).

I have been hearing a lot recently about the excessive presence of drugs in symbiosis pune. As someone who is planning on joining, I just want to know if it's true and how serious it is.

Ps: I want replies only from present students of sls pune. All the others, pls refrain from commenting.

CHRIST's reputation is not rizzled atleast for the main campus at Bangalore. We have achievements and placements that rival T1 NLU's. The final stats for this year's RCC are 86 placements

121 internships/paralegalships. No tier 1 nlu comes even close to this. We currently have the batch size that NLS is expadning to get and getting a huge number does boost perception. CHRIST Bangalore also has the Shardul and Bharati Shroff Gold Medal for best outgoing student.

It's wonderful that she's confident and thinking but she is also wrong . The problem for Asians is not that rich Black people are taking their seats but that mediocre white people are. The Asians are constrained to a small percentage of seats because of the quota system although they would likely outperform the white students. Her proposal requires universities to ignore generational wealth and privilege which is already a problem. Trust fund babies and their parents have no income because they're that rich and these people benefit from income based scholarships. They pay nothing while second generation college-going children of professional parents who slogged their way up the class ladder are saddled with debts. Public schools are not a uniform category either. People buy homes in extremely expensive neighbourhoods to be able to access some high performing public schools. Unless she is talking about Nigerian billionaines who recently moved to the US, it appears that she doesn't understand that any rich American black person would either have had to have a white ancestor or a black one that earned their money post abolition. Both these are relatively rare since racism is alive and well in America. So what she wants to do is slam the doors on most black people because one or two don't need support. In the meantime, white people continue to ride on generational privilege and wealth.

You’ll get your answers soon! It’s a matter of time. We aren’t NLS, NALSAR where Day 0 happens. We earn things from our sweat and blood and it’s takes time. Wait for some time, you’ll change your perception.

Life is marathon and not a sprint. We are dark horses in this marathon and not rabbits.

I made the mistake of joining NMIMS.

GLS is much better. Bunk lectures and start interning. 5 years later you will definitely have a job. The GLC brand will easily get you internships because of the strong alumni network.

NMIMS has weird timings. They only have 10 classrooms available for all 5 years students combined. The admin is frankly the worst. Any changes require university approval, which is impossible. The placement cell doesn't exist, and the last placement cell ended up ruining relations with some law firms. High fees, low ROI.

Choose anything over NMIMS. I recommend PGCL, same vibes, more classrooms, better alumni network and internships

i provisionally have been allotted patiala, however i do seemingly have a fairly decent shot of getting into the bsc llb course of nujs - considering my west bengal domicile.

please help me see a clearer picture as it would work wonders for me in taking an informed decision. thank you

I travelled in buses. Less than INR 500/- for the entire month. I stayed on the top most floor of a building for my stay. You know those ones on the terrace. For just INR 4000/-. I shared that 100 sq. ft room with another chap, so my cost was INR 2,000/-. Also I ate from roadside stalls and my food bill was less than INR 2,000/-. All said and done in less than INR 4,500/-. Got INR 2,000/- as stipend. So burnt only INR 2,500/-, which was again saved up from semester expenses.

So hustle through the grind or stay weak because of your privileges.

#FAKELUD has always lied:

As per data submitted to NIRF by NLUD, total number of students who opted for higher education in 15/16 batch was 26

https://www.nirfindia.org/nirfpdfcdn/2023/pdf/Law/IR-L-U-0111.pdf

As per their own internal memo (hosted on their own website), the data for that year was 8

https://nludelhi.ac.in/download/nirf/HigherStudies.pdf

#FAKELUD also double counts research income https://nludelhi.ac.in/download/nirf/Sponsored%20Research%20Details%20(1).pdf

and anyone who knows about #FAKELUD will tell you they never had 124 faculty members, the SMOKING GUN is here, as per the submission by NLUD available at https://nludelhi.ac.in/download/nirf/NIRF%20NLUD%202023.pdf

scroll down this explosive document and you will find Marc Galanter (aged 92) is listed as a visiting faculty member [although more points are added for permanent faculty members and contract faculty, any faculty listed also adds to it], there are over 15 names listed a visiting faculty who may have come and given a talk at NLUD sometime. There are over 30 researchers who are listed as teachers who have never taught. There are contractual teachers listed who have not taught at NLUD in the last three years. All done with a scheme to inflate numbers of teachers at #FAKELUD.

Students from #FAKELUD do not try to persuade your uni to remove the data from the website, I have made copies of it, if you manage to deactivate the links, I shall upload it and it shall live for ever on the internet.

They usually have friends who are practicing law in diff fields or at least have friends of friends who are practicing law in that particular field but as such they usually don't have a personal lawyer. It is only in case of a dispute or transaction do they require help from other lawyers and they call upon some friend

By now, the big news coming out of the NIRF rankings 2023 has been the dominance of NLS at the top, NLUD just edging ahead of NALSAR, NUJS maintaining its stranglehold on the next position, and GNLU who looked so good in all the other factors suffered a huge drop in its public perception ranking.

This huge drop in the public perception aspect to about 52 out of 100 can be solely attributed to this highly toxic and infamous batch of '24 batch, who have singularly managed to do a feat which no other batch of any NLU could ever do- singularly pull down the perception rating of the entire University, as the massive infighting and frequent fights of the batchmates within the batch spilled over into various Social Media handles. Last year also this batch was held responsible for the public perception getting affected, however with the batch reaching new lows every day the infightings inside the batch become much more pronounced and prominent. With several students reporting high anxiety and tension (u can go through previous LI threads to verify this, and if not I have privately as a senior talked to several of them and can confirm that some students are feeling extreme anxiety by staying in the batch).

What's our say GNLUites? Because personally there is no other reason for the perception to being so badly affected. Even colleges lower than us have a big lead in the public perception rating.

Yes. You could join TNNLU.

Yes. Several of them are working in Tier I Law Firms, Universities.

A few have cleared Judicial Services, Civil Services. A few have read LLM from Cambridge, LSE, Stockholm, etc.

The Office of Career Services is active. The University Library is good.

Matter is reserved for final arguments in 2021? What happened - did the court sleep till 2023? I am sure that Jhanvi Gadkar will get out even if a judgement come?

Also what's her new name? This is a public information and if she changed her name, it should have been published in a Newspaper.

Also How on earth was she able to get her driving license renewed? How is it even possible?

I interned 20 years ago with a lawyer named Mr Dipankar Gupta (now deceased). He was originally a Cal HC barrister but later became Solicitor General of India. He paid interns Rs 5,000 for 4 weeks, with very light work. In those days this was the standard stipend from senior lawyers and firms. I am surprised that in today's woke era interns still get paid the same. It should be at least 20,000 a month.

But the internship with Mr Gupta was more memorable because of the courtesy he showed to interns. He fed interns everyday and took interns out to lunches at five star hotels on 4-5 days. And if any girl intern stayed back till 8 pm, he would get his driver to drop her back home, as Delhi was quite unsafe for girls those days.

Hi,

Can anyone please tell me the names of M&A law firms in Mumbai which are hiring or would be willing to take assessment interns? I am from the 2024 batch and I really need to get an assessment internship but I am clueless as to where to apply because the hiring scene is not disclosed.

Guess sir/ma'am is from NUALS. They have this insane attitude to bash newer NLU's while they glorify themselves. Might have forgotten their institution is 20 years old.

How are you claiming that there are no placement Statistics when TNNLU grads have been placed at CAM, SAM, Trilegal, Khaitan, AZB, Chandhiok & Mahajan, Tatva Legal, King Stub & Kasiva, Samvad partners etc. The list goes on. There are alums who have cleared upsc and other govt exams. Sad to note that there is a heavy perception issue just because the NLU is in Tamil Nadu.

How do you propose to test merit? To get into ALSD one had to clear the CET exam which had proper negative marking and was equally difficult as CLAT. The majority of ALSD alumni are doing great and are actually placed in some of the best places! Having a biased view towards NLU kids got to stop! Not every student graduating from an NLU is perfect and not every student graduating from a non-NLU is dumb! It's a mix of both everywhere.

Even with an average it will not be possible to get to 19lpa

last year NLUD had 25 tier 1 recruitment at 16lpa, 4 TCs were given at £45k (for first year)

if we assume the rest at 10lpa, then the average comes to 15 lakhs

the only way the average will be 19lpa if there were a dozen TCs or if 50 students got 16lpa tier 1 recruitment, both of which did not happen.

So again it is proven that NLUD LIES ON NIRF

There are various aspects in your life that you have to work on. Be it law, fitness, fairness or health. You have to give equal amount of efforts in all these areas for gaining whatever benefits each trait will give. So instead of whining maybe start going to the gym and start looking good. Compromising one hour working out instead of reading an unnecessary law book will be all right. You won't miss out on much if you don't read.

Dude, my cousin is currently a JAG officer serving in Lucknow and I can vouch for the veracity of the claims of 2 accommodations for JAG officers - one at the place of posting and one in any other city of choice. Wrt to the free flight tickets, yes ,the JAG officers like other officers commissioned from the NDA or IMA can travel from their place of posting to their place of residence multiple times free of cost. If I am not wrong, the officer is entitled to 8 free tickets and the dependants (wife, children) are provided 4 tickets each. However, this facility exists only when you are posted in Jammu & Kashmir or North East. Out of the quota of 8 tickets for an officer, he has to mandatorily travel 4 times in a chartered flight which is meant only for Armed Forces. I read a comment which expressed surprise at such benefit being accorded to Jag but this is the reality. You may choose to agree or disagree. Putting random emojis to your comment won't hide the truth, instead arm your answer with relevant statements and grammatically correct words.

I am also doubly sure that a Judicial Officer who is posted in North East(Guwahti,Kohima,Dimapur etc) or Kashmir(Srinagar etc) are provided no such facility for their dependents as well as for themselves.

There was another comment with regards to some rulebook which stipulates promotion for judicial officers to ADJ cadre in 8 years. Let me give you a reality check.

Even the UPPCS rules state that the officers of UPPPS(entry level Grade I DSP) and UPPCS ( Entry level grade 1 SDM)will be promoted to IAS within 8 years. You very well know the reality, an entry level DSP gets just two promotions in his lifetime (addl sp and sp). Similarly an entry level uppcs officer who starts off as an sdm becomes dm (subject to age and promotion to IaS cadre) after two and a half decades. Even then, thd department promotion committee of the state govt and the upsc give approvals subject to a certain criteria.

In the same light , the rulebook says that the civil judge should be promoted to ask within x years and dj within y years doesn't really materialse. On paper things do look rosy but in reality is totally different.

Man so many stupid CAs/CSs commenting over here, thinking they are better than lawyers, and that they have achieved some huge feat because they passed exams which literally only forced them to memorize word-to-word what is printed in their course books (only to make it is easier/faster for examiners to check answers instead of checking if the student actually understands what they wrote).

Please don't keep displaying your ignorance about maths. It is embarrassing for law students everywhere. If average salary for NUJS grads is released, you would get a heart attack out of sheer jealousy, just like you are burning enough to drag NUJS in a post that's about your university.

Yeah and it is no surprise that the people who end up enrolling in such colleges (where attendance is minimum and you need to write whatever in exams to pass) are primarily CAs/CSs (who are well versed with the art of writing whatever to pass exams because they have already passed such an exam). So what's your point? 90% of CAs/CSs will also not be able to do basic things which they should be proficient at even if their life depended on it.

NLS has been bragging about it’s NIRF rank for the past couple of days. I know you want to pretend NIRF is shit since your college ranked low but grow up. NIRF is the ONLY authentic ranking in India at the moment and all relevant colleges from IITs to IIMs to top NLUs care about it.

So this is what NLUD teaches its students. First, make up lies about placement data because the reality is not that rosy, then send those lies to official rankings, then troll other people who actually publish honest placement data.

As for your higher average salary, it is sad that neither you nor your teachers or admin know enough maths to figure out that average is different from median. Maybe AILET doesn't need you to calculate at all, though your admin should be better at calculations considering it has to count all that money it swindles out of law aspirants every years.

Wow, such sour grapes towards NLUD even though the guy is an anonymous commentator who actually has an informed opinion. All jokes aside, it’s clear that you had a bad day at AILET and and are jealous of NLUD. Whether it’s 2nd or 3rd hardly matters to me, but it’s good to see NLUD doing well regardless of NIRF just to keep stuffing more sour grapes down your throat. Keep complaining, loser.

it calls into the question the veracity of the other data submitted by them, especially the one on number of faculty members, I have a sneaking suspicion they have shown their temp staff members as permanent faculty, but cant prove as I dont have the exact break up.

Unlike the recruitment data on which NLUD has been LYING for the last THREE YEARS

Who told JAG are allowed to make contact & judges don't??? JAG is a job in military not in civil & military is known for its strictness, discipline, privacy, less interactions with civilians & many more. Even they are not allowed to shift or keep their family anywhere but only at peace station marked by respective defence head under they posted. So both have to maintain privacy but JAG grades. strictly

Because of biasness in fund allocation. JAG get adequate fund while state judicary don't have fund for construction of toilet for female judges. & Everyone know why this biasness with judiciary. In 2njpc centre was not ready to pay proposed salary & you're expecting good infrastructure. The same situation is with Armed force Tribual. Exchange work & power b/w them than see infrastructure.

Ek hai jisko sarkar se koi matlab hi nhi or dusra hai jo sarkar ko chorti nhi too fir rs. 1 kaha se mile ga.

So its irrelavnt to compare on the basis of infrastructure

In the last 3-4 years, the NUJS administration, despite its many faults, has actually been encouraging faculty to conduct research, get projects and publish, including having monetary incentives for publications. There are a few faculty there who regularly publish a lot, collaborate with other institutions including foreign universities and international bodies, and have got decent citation records too. Which is good in the long run.

Err...other than perception score, NUJS has actually performed equally or better in all other parameters including the ones that you mentioned, compared to NALSAR or NLUD. In fact, as has been mentioned by someone else, NUJS' score in all other parameters combined is actually more than NALSAR, and only just behind NLUD. So keep your propaganda to yourself.

He has just mentioned quantitative data, not given his own opinion about which NLU is good or bad. If you believe that the rankings are so useless, which you have a right to, then why even comment in a thread about them? He has given a disclaimer in the beginning about him having reservations about the rankings themselves. Your argument is like saying if you don't like the political party in charge, then you should stop taking an interest in how the country is being run.

Which Delhi court's CMM office was not good?? I am practicing at Tis Hazari and appeared almost before all benches in Delhi. My colleagues are MM in Patiala, Rouse A., Tis Hazari, Dwarka, they all have good & decent chambers in which Rouse Avenue is on top. DJS is also know for its good infrastructure. So either you're lying or may interned when some construction was going.

Hi Law peeps, when do you usually hear from Tier-1s after the interview? I understand it depends on the nature of the vacancy, but does the HR really get back to you even if you have not been selected? How long should we wait post interview to connect with the HR. Please mention timelines for SCAM, Trilegal, JSA, Kco, AZB etc

Have a good look at this article, clearly shows that JAG offers are at the top of the pay scales in government services, much higher pay than judiciary whatsoever

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/defence-personnel-get-higher-pay-than-civilian-counterparts/articleshow/49886547.cms

Nice to see NYT giving space to such arguments. Also great that a school girl got an article published in NYT. Wow! 👏

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/05/opinion/college-affirmative-action-admissions.html