Tier 2 NLUs (apart from hnlu and rmnlu) like RGNUL and nluo are facing deep impact of the placement market. Almost all the tier-1 offers are made to tier-1 nlus.
Some tier-3 nlus do not even have a stable placement cell. And those who do have - are likely inactive because nothing good is going on there aside the nlu tag. MNLU Nagpur kids feel that they own the world whereas in reality the placement stats are not even out and they don’t have ANY tier-1 recruitment drive.
NUSRL and DSNLU are sleeping with problems plaguing their administration.
This problem was well known about a decade ago, all law firm recruitments in India can only absorb about 400 students annually (in good years). This has remained constant, however the NLUs have opened like crazy. So, the newly opened NLUs are fighting for an ever shrinking corporate pie. There is no solution except for the students at newer NLUs to focus on judiciary and litigation. While this is not inherently bad for the overall system, but the students who dream about 1.5 lakhs pm package after graduation would surely have their dreams crushed.
Solution is simple:
1. Have all law students in India enter through CLAT, like NEET, this will decrease the number of law students and increase value per student
2. Make AIBE multi parter, like in the UK, this will further filter out inadequate candidates, which again will increase value per candidate
3. Newly opened NLUs should give 20k stipend for students who want to practice at HCs, like GNLU, for 2 years to differentiate themselves from similarly perceived private colleges
Cuz the batches are smaller now. The batch of 23 had only 80 people at NLS. It will grow up to 180-240 in 2027-28 + 120 peeps from the 3-year LLB course. I guess at least 10 people will get hired from the 3-year LLB batch as well. When all the vacancies will get filled up by picking students from the top 5-6 places only, firms will stop going to the lower NLUs for day Z.
Sir for ur kind knowledge law firms avoid taking students from 3-year LLB and by the way every law firm gives the proper slot to different nlus which they have a tie-up, the law firm is not interested to hire from nls is only ur making an argument on the wrong assumption
I know that law firms avoid 3-year LLB students and that's why I mentioned only 10 placements from a batch of 120. 8-10% of their batch should get placed in my opinion. Some of them has contacts and are interning from 1st Year itself.
Talking about ties, then no law school will ever lose placements, law firms used to go to GLC and ILS a lot, now they hardly hire from there (except PPOs) NLIU used to have a very good placement record, now it's in shambles. A similar thing will happen to the lower NLUs in the coming years
Justly said. These kids won’t get it. They will remain deluded in tier-2 NLUs and when the time will come , they will start regretting their decision for whey second.
MNLU Nagpur is ▮▮, they don't have any money left to do anything. Fees has been increased a lot for the upcoming academic year to cover up for that. To top that, the admin is completely crazy, the place is rotten. Of course, there are zero placements to show for the 2023 Batch. It's worrying to think of the 100+ students (who have spent 15-18 lakhs in 5 years) graduating without jobs, in this economy, from a single college!
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The idea posed by the OP was that MNLU-N is on a downward trajectory and he/she also reasoned his/her assertions. I think everyone got what he/she meant and it wasn't necessarily untrue.
There have been many administrative issues resulting in a situation where an NLU sank. Take NLIU for instance which is the 2nd NLU to be established after NLS, when the director resigned after a week of student protests, and the registrar was suspended for selling fake degrees in the same term. If that episode did not happen, one could argue that it would've not been where it is currently placed.
You may also take the example of HNLU, whose perception sank after the perennial hard-handedness of the administration came to light in 2018.
So, an NLU isn't as sink-proof as his highness might think.
Thanks for the feedback, but does it literally have zero placements and is the admin 'completely crazy'? The comment seems hyperbolic all round, hence tagging it contested seems fair, and it had also been reported as not being factually accurate.
NLU Nagpur is the only NLU in Maharashtra which is making it's name in the state's annual budget since last 3 years for each year's basic administrative & functioning Aid.[Verify it by going through the Maharashtra Annual budget Pdf for the past three financial years]
Coming to placements
Yes the On Campus placement scene is not as good as what others well established campuses have but we are definately improving on that front too .
Could confirm a MNC visiting for on campus placement drive for batch of 23 . But yes the on campus placement is not that attractive.
But the environment here is well enough that if you're determined you could easily crack and secure PPOs at Trilegal[2 PPO for batch of 23],Khaitan,Argus & Fox Mandal.[ Kindly do some efforts in 'LinkedIn hunting' for gathering credible information rather than throwing comments in the sky]
No new NLU from the time and around the time when NLU Nagpur was built has ever published placement data for their first batch but placement stats for our first batch of 21 is available publicly that to on NIRF.
Coming to the amount of fees which the University is charging, Please come to our University as then only you would realise how that every penny which is being charged is being utilised to keep the standard of the Infra in the Campus High in comparison to other dilapidated NLUs Infra.
Adding to the high fees component criticism ,The University is the foremost collaborative with other state government for ensuring that scholarship scheme of different states govt is easily availed at NLU Nagpur.
Students from MP,UP,RJ & MH are the one who mostly enjoy these benifits.
The university is expansion mode ever since it's inception it started with the humble intake of 60 students and today it welcomes around 250+ students every year.
It's sad but most people saw it coming from miles away. This behaviour of blindly building NLUs by state governments, barely funding these places and not to forget the absence of acceptance of any kind from the central government. There was a time when we believed that alloting NLUs with the INI tag will improve things, but now...even if they are alloted the INI tag, survival will be hard.
Just hold your horses gentlemen. You will, i'm sure, be among the first to be in awe when you will see the bar and bench reporting placement figures of the batch of 2023 of NLUO. To give you a spoiler, the numbers are over 70 in toto. Out of which 40-45 are tier 1s or so to say the firm's who pay salaries above 14 LPA.
Plus, where is there enough quality faculty to spread across these NLUs? It's a tiny pool of decent profs, a larger pool of barely adequate ones, and then just people with a degree, a pulse, and a willingness to work for chump change.
There are 1721 law schools in India, which is grossly insufficient number for increasing population. Government should immediately approve new colleges and increase current batch strength as well.
Soon world standard private law schools (such as jgls, bitslaw, Mahindra, symbiosis, mahe, ) , law schools of iims and iits (such as iim rohtak, iitg), some of the tier 1 nlus ( Nlsiu, NALSAR, nlud) - in collaboration with/without foreign universities will only make a difference. Thanks to the visionless management, corruption in the public law schools
I have been to the IIM law school. It is in a pretty bad shape. As for Jindal etc., they are yet to make any difference in the last 14 years. One hopes that would change in future.
All the fresh graduates from tier 2 tier 3 colleges should join their law schools back. Serve the nation by building the first layer - viz., teachers, who can then produce the second layer, the practitioners. We need more of you. Keep it up.
Solutions :- stop hating the tier 1. Time hein toh take a drop. Else respect the system and move forward with slow growth. Sorry for sounding negative but it’s tier-2 , can’t really help here.
NUALS is till the hope. But slowly and slowly the tier-2 nlus are losing their sheen. It’s getting worse. The crumbling down factor is actually getting more visible. Kids don’t opt for tier2 and tier3 nlus
As per reports , there are barely any tier-1 law firms approaching the tier-2/tier-3 nlus. They are facing the heat like anything. The placements opportunities are dismal.
With the hiring freeze this year , tier-2 nlus are on the verge of extinction it seems. Only god can save them. Should’ve retaken clat or just they should opt for different career opportunities now
Some tier-3 nlus do not even have a stable placement cell. And those who do have - are likely inactive because nothing good is going on there aside the nlu tag. MNLU Nagpur kids feel that they own the world whereas in reality the placement stats are not even out and they don’t have ANY tier-1 recruitment drive.
NUSRL and DSNLU are sleeping with problems plaguing their administration.
The only stable nlu like NUALS is still the hope.
Any solutions for these nlus?
Solution is simple:
1. Have all law students in India enter through CLAT, like NEET, this will decrease the number of law students and increase value per student
2. Make AIBE multi parter, like in the UK, this will further filter out inadequate candidates, which again will increase value per candidate
3. Newly opened NLUs should give 20k stipend for students who want to practice at HCs, like GNLU, for 2 years to differentiate themselves from similarly perceived private colleges
Azb hire, 6
Trilegal, 7
S&r, 5
One each in khaitan and sam
Indusland, 6
Then how can u say that they won'tgo after gnlu/nliu
Talking about ties, then no law school will ever lose placements, law firms used to go to GLC and ILS a lot, now they hardly hire from there (except PPOs) NLIU used to have a very good placement record, now it's in shambles. A similar thing will happen to the lower NLUs in the coming years
The idea posed by the OP was that MNLU-N is on a downward trajectory and he/she also reasoned his/her assertions. I think everyone got what he/she meant and it wasn't necessarily untrue.
There have been many administrative issues resulting in a situation where an NLU sank. Take NLIU for instance which is the 2nd NLU to be established after NLS, when the director resigned after a week of student protests, and the registrar was suspended for selling fake degrees in the same term. If that episode did not happen, one could argue that it would've not been where it is currently placed.
You may also take the example of HNLU, whose perception sank after the perennial hard-handedness of the administration came to light in 2018.
So, an NLU isn't as sink-proof as his highness might think.
PS: use the tags judiciously.
To clear firstly about the funds.
NLU Nagpur is the only NLU in Maharashtra which is making it's name in the state's annual budget since last 3 years for each year's basic administrative & functioning Aid.[Verify it by going through the Maharashtra Annual budget Pdf for the past three financial years]
Coming to placements
Yes the On Campus placement scene is not as good as what others well established campuses have but we are definately improving on that front too .
Could confirm a MNC visiting for on campus placement drive for batch of 23 . But yes the on campus placement is not that attractive.
But the environment here is well enough that if you're determined you could easily crack and secure PPOs at Trilegal[2 PPO for batch of 23],Khaitan,Argus & Fox Mandal.[ Kindly do some efforts in 'LinkedIn hunting' for gathering credible information rather than throwing comments in the sky]
No new NLU from the time and around the time when NLU Nagpur was built has ever published placement data for their first batch but placement stats for our first batch of 21 is available publicly that to on NIRF.
Coming to the amount of fees which the University is charging, Please come to our University as then only you would realise how that every penny which is being charged is being utilised to keep the standard of the Infra in the Campus High in comparison to other dilapidated NLUs Infra.
Adding to the high fees component criticism ,The University is the foremost collaborative with other state government for ensuring that scholarship scheme of different states govt is easily availed at NLU Nagpur.
Students from MP,UP,RJ & MH are the one who mostly enjoy these benifits.
The university is expansion mode ever since it's inception it started with the humble intake of 60 students and today it welcomes around 250+ students every year.
To give you a spoiler, the numbers are over 70 in toto. Out of which 40-45 are tier 1s or so to say the firm's who pay salaries above 14 LPA.