JGLS is new school vis-a-vis NLS and Nalsar. However many alumni have secured or on the career track of securing teaching and research positions in foreign universities. Some of them could be the following:
Anirudh Belle, Lecturer in Private Law, Pembroke College & D.Phil Candidate, University of Oxford
Dr. Anush Ganesh, PhD UEA, Lecturer in Law, St. Mary's University, Twickenham, London
also, if you check the university website profiles, a significant minority of those named here do not even mention wherefrom they have done their undergraduate. They will mention some summer school they have done in NYU but not mention the place where they have spent 5 years doing their undergrad. Of course, we should applaud their personal successes but not celebrate it as some great group achievement.
True. In the end they looked out for themselves, which is fine, however not a reason to celebrate. It's like us celebrating CEOs and world leaders who are Indians, when in reality they're doing nothing in return for India.. they're just doing their job for themselves and their work country. It would have been better if these people gave it back to the society in some way or the other.
Just to add to this, you could actually reach out to this person from NALSAR — a simple Linkedin would do. He's not joining any in-house; he accepted an offer from a top-tier disputes-focussed law firm in Bangalore. After his name was unceremoniously removed from multiple shortlists by most Tier 1s, I've heard that the Nalsar alumni network played a good role in ensuring that his achievements (he supposedly has been one of the toppers throughout) and skills got their due weightage in the recruitment process.
So, my suggestion to you is simple: give it your best shot, have tangible achievements, and don't feel shy in reaching out to your alumni network — it's undoubtedly the country's best.
Lastly, in terms of giving you a definite answer to your question: the harsh truth is that most firms & HRs will try their best to reject your candidature on frivolous grounds. That said, everyone has bosses to answer to — and if you can tangibly/quantifiably demonstrate your ability and drive to perform to such senior partners, they'll have no option but to take you. That said, I'd recon that your best shot would be through PPOs with accommodative partners. Most HRs are too lazy to actually go through CVs for internships, so you should apply either directly through the alumni network or through your placement committee. Once that's through, you should give each internship your best shot + keep such partners/senior partners informed of your work, so that they can ensure that you're not unfairly treated. If nothing else, you'll be able to collate a set of powerful references and reputation, which should eventually lead to a job soon enough. All the best!
She says that a survey will be carried out to see how much each caste earns. Then wealth be distributed to those at the bottom, to SC/ST/OBC communities. Practically speaking, I think that the caste that will probably finish on top is the Vaishya/Baniya caste, because families like Ambani, Adani, Jindal etc own a large chunk of India's wealth. Then I guess the Brahmins and Kshatriyas, who are engaged in white collar professions. Now, if you take 30% of Vaishya wealth and maybe 20% of Brahmin/Kshatriya wealth and distribute it to the SC/ST/OBC communities, the inequality gap will be substantially reduced --- not just financial inequality but also social and educational inequality, because the SC/ST/OBC communities can use their new wealth to send their children to good schools and universities. The long term impact will be that India's GDP will be qualitatively superior, not just quantitatively superior. Thus, we will be able to compete with China better, because our current economic situation is lopsided, where only a few castes can benefit from the opportunities given by globalisation.
Amartya Sen has explained this very well, He says that China and India were similarly placed at one time, but the reason China grew faster is because their social base was more equal.
Hence, this is an excellent policy that deserves our support.
why to go for judiciary which demands months of preparation along with uncertainty, take a job at any smaller law firm and enhance credentials, then go inhouse and earn more then the counterparts.
You are studying law. Your notes are nothing but summary or paraphrased version of the work the legislature and judiciary does, take a chill pill. Be happy someone used you instead of QuillBot.
if you are disabled, won't you find it problematic to do the kind of document work in law firms? Law firms dont have special systems for the impaired and especially clients arent willing to accommodate the same in costs as well.
Might as well prepare for the judiciary or IAS? (hint hint PWD)
Pls dont take this the wrong way, its just a suggestion/ comment jk
They recently completed their process spanning 1.5-2 months in some t2 nlus and handed out some offers. The firm although is pretty transparent about its 3 rounds of interviews.
Not copyrightable, but our qtiya law firms regularly send cease and desist letters or straightaway sue in such cases and try to bully people. Remember Humans of Bombay? That shameless girl copied the the idea from Humans of NY and then had the audacity to sue someone else who opened a similar page.
I truly dont understand this absolute obsession with elitism and rankings. Who tf cares lol. All these idiotic distinctions. Moulding your whole sense of self worth around it if you get in, and being completely miserable if you dont. What a pathetic way to live. Thr truth is something that takes up 5 years of your life can be arranged neatly in a hierarchy. Each college is different and offers a different experience. Ranking is helpful for students giving CLAT to make a reasoned decision, but when I see grown ass adults talking about iVy LeAgUe of InDiA its just so pathetic lol. Move on with your life, all this is a social construct. What a bunch of sheep.
Obviously GNLU. Im not from either of these colleges but the answer is clear as day. Its a college that requires you to get a rank of about 400 out of 80000 applicants. How is this a question? People saying jindal are jobless and coping hard
There was someone else from NLS who is probably now Dean or something at Deakin Law, Australia. Previously taught in UK and probably in the US as well.
Reena Patel (?) from NLS studied and later taught at Warwick Law. Came back to India and headed up some lesser known private law schools. Wonder why her name doesn't come up.
I'm a 2nd year law student in Bangalore. I have observed I'm not good in academics and extra curricular things. So the best way to get some extra edge is through internships. But the issue is I can not speak local language. So it will be difficult to intern under trial and even high courts. As they prefer who knows local language. Please if someone can guide and suggest some tips. What are the places where I can intern and how to ask them for this? Also I'm looking to work on a long-term 1 and 2 year. I don't care about certificates and things I just want to learn.
lol. yall want to keep administration that is corrupt, you want grade inflation and you want no rigor in education at all. And then youre surprised that people with other options wouldnt want to do that with their lives? And somehow theyre the ones that are not to be celebrated?
If you are looking at foreign law firms for a TC at some point, I know somebody that's at Clifford Chance who has a visual impairment (the individual was educated in England itself though, but that shouldn't make too much of a difference TBH). A grad rec guy from Freshfields who came to my uni to deliver a talk about a year ago told me about somebody there as well who is blind. As a fellow blind law student, just putting this out there so you don't make the mistake of assuming that some career options/opportunities that your sighted counterparts aspire for are out of reach for you just because of your blindness.
Sibal sahab, please read your files diligently instead of conducting irrelevant talkshows, we briefed you at rate of 17.5, even I could have argued better than u, only if my firm had allowed.
It's not like our alumni are doing extremely well across the world, we have a solid image before all T1 firms, and we are doing better than almost all colleges in terms of governmental services and research.
Surprisingly, most people I've met from top colleges think of NLUD as a "T1", so I wonder who these LI trolls are who keep downvoting every NLUD achievement and upvoting anything against NLUD. My boss was someone from NLS, and he told me that one reason I was hired was because I was from a "top law school".
Bro never go by rankings. By that logic as per QS rankings Jindal is better than NLS, as per NIRF IIT Chennai is better than IIT Bombay, as per NIRF NLU D is better than NALSAR. All three are false. The only rankings that matter is industry perception and placements. The industry thinks IIT Bombay is number 1 and so naturally they have the best placement amongst all IITs.
Usual shallowness and banal victimization of her love life, along with the customary beating up of whichever man she can use to milk her trauma for her millions of fans. This tweet sums it up
I have applied a month back itself but I haven't heard back from them yet. Is it possible that they might respond post 24th April? (Since the last day for acceptance of shortlisted candidate was given as 24th April in their portal)
I will be answering your question in as much detail as I can. I sincerely feel there's need for more career intelligence about this career path.
Who am I? A law grad who practiced for less than a year and realised that it's not for me. Reasons not relevant here.
What do I do? I work at a leading mid-sized law firm in a strategy and business development role.
What does it entail? Broadly, the following things:
1. External communications - think press releases, deal updates, firm announcements etc. you see on legal media websites.
2. Internal communications - same as above, when communicated internally within the firm.
3. Ranking submissions - you see law firms posting on their social media platforms that they've been ranked by Chambers, Legal500, IFLR, Asialaw, ALB etc.? Well, contrary to popular beliefs, not all of these are paid/ sponsored (at least the good ones that I listed). There are detailed forms to apply for these recognitions. Each platform has its own form. A big part of the role is to fill those forms, submit and laise with these platforms untill their rankings are out.
4. Social media management - don't think I need to explain this one.
5. Practice development - everything that your firm's partners do in order to bring in business and position themselves in the legal industry. Networking events, client pitches, etc.
6. Knowledge management - internal as well as external. Think blogs, articles, thought papers, podcasts etc. published by third parties and on your firm's website.
Why do law firms need lawyers for this role? Because every piece of content that's generated is legal in nature, right from a short social media caption to proofreading KM output, you need someone who has a basic understanding of law.
What's the payscale for freshers? Law firm marketing agencies usually pay 5-8 LPA to freshers. Law firms typically do not hire absolute freshers, but if you're lucky, you would get around 7-10 LPA.
What skill set do you need? Basic understanding of law. Good communication skills. Creativity and design sense. Some experience with Canva would work in your favour. Social media management. Content development.
Ideas are not protected by copyright, only expressions are. Unless an impugned campaign is practically a copy (word for word), it is unlikely it'll be protected. This happens all the time with movie scripts.
Interned there, it was a great experience. It is mostly litigation and tax oriented, but have a corporate team as well. If you are looking to get into litigation, this is a great firm. They are associated with 3 designated senior advocates, and have cases in various forums. Great place to grab some WorkEx, esp if you wanna practise in BLR
WPA/10583/2024 (before Justice Kaushik Chanda pertaining to WBNUJS/VC inaction on SH matter)
WPA/3644/2024 (before Justice Jay Sengupta pertaining to police inaction on the SH issue)
Very likely both will come up for hearing this week.
The writ filed by a former Accounts Officer pertaining to leave encashment (following his retirement) was disposed in March 2024. Justice Kaushik Chanda in WPA 2599/2024 directed WBNUJS to take a decision concerning the representation made by the ex-AO to NKC, who was accused of inaction, non-communication and stonewalling. Ironic, because that is what the AO used to do as well!
The ex-AR Admin matter concerning SH as well is in limbo following the transfer of the concerned judge to Telangana HC. That's WPA/16208/2019. Will be interesting if he were to return to campus.
No commercial exploitation. And they're using it for educational purpose (fair use).
Do one thing- study basics of IP law. You won't ask such foolish questions on such platforms again. They're just notes- share them. Just have a word with her, and resolve the issue.
Hi! I am a 2023 graduate. I worked in a small contract - compliance company for 7 months till January of this year. But I want to make my career in dispute resolution. In my law school, I have done internships in this field - one Tier 1 and other Tier 2. I want to join tier 1 or tier 2 firm as dispute resolution associate. So, what can be the way forward? Should I apply for internships again at tier 1?
Hey. I have advised on something like this before. Ideas are not copyrightable, their expression is. It will be copyright infringement if they copy something that you made, including any copyrighted (doesnt have to be registered) images, artwork, visuals, script etc that you provided. However, usually pitches only have ideas and roadmaps on how something will be done, including costing, casting etc. Doing it in the same manner will not necessarily amount to copyright infringement. Advertising industry works on trust and an omerta, and also advertising agencies also assume a certain element of risk while giving pitches.
To put it another way: Will the NLSIU brand name place me ahead of such graduates in the job queue?
In the UK, are law firms more in awe of the NLSIU tag than a tier 2 tag? Does NLSIU get more TCs than such colleges, because it is more respected?
In India, I guess NLSIU is more respected? I hardly heard of any CAM/SAM partner or associate with a UK tier 2 LLB. Even in small law firms you don’t see such people much. Or could it be that such people don’t return to India and prefer to work and settle abroad?
Do you realise when you say you'll make more as an IRS than a senior partner that clearly implies heavy corruption? The highest salary you can get at Apex Scale of IRS is 2.5 lacs per month. You are comparing black money to hard earned retainer.
I mean, isn’t that the story in most big law firms? I am hoping that i get called in, it is surely a good place to kickstart tier 1 - tier 2 firm career.
1. I did get a seat in NLS, chose to stay at NUJS for personal reasons. Never regretted my decision.
2. If NLS taught you such inane arguments, then it's better not to study there. Going by your logic, you didn't get a seat at DU. Hence DU must be better than NLS.
It's not your right. Because the premises don't belong to you. You are given permission to stay there subject to rules. Of which this is one. Had you drunk less and studied more, then you would have been aware of that.
Don't need to, so long as the university you are aiming for organises a separate entrance exam. It may be useful to appear for it though, since it is less arbitrary than individual university exams and also has a structure and syllabus.
No, the only categorisation that is evident from this post is that you have got way too much free time in your hands and very little idea about the industry or academia.
No government officer can become rich out of the salary that they are paid legally. If you wish to indulge in corruption, then you can get rich in most of the legal careers.
There is a person from NLS'23 who is blind and is working in a top law firm. So, yes, it's possible. Focus on your academics and internships and things will fall in place. Dw
Will I be cancelled if I say that she’s a spoilt girl who changes boyfriends more often than people change clothes, then dumps them, them pretends to play victim and throws tantrums through her songs? And that her songs are pretty awful too?
Please let me know the Salaries and the nature of work. I want to know about the scope in the corporate and capital market teams in the respective firms. Will working in these firms benefit me in the long run? How are working hours like in these firms? And most importantly please name nice partners to work under (interesting work, no shouting, little bit spoon-feeding). Thanks
The issue isn’t the law but enforcement. If someone copies whatever you have, it’s a huge hassle and expensive to sue. Also, barring a few judges in elite High Courts most are clueless about IP law. You’d have better luck hiring a few local goondas and telling them to beat up whoever steals your ideas.
There is a person in NALSAR who faced the same issue, Tier 1s rejected them again and again, he has taken an in-house role to my knowledge. Another person with a growth issue however still got the job, it may depend from office to office and team to team. But I'd suggest you give it your all anyway, more power to you!
In this discussion for his YouTube show, Dil Se, Kapil Sibal hosted Faizan Mustafa, Najeeb Jung and Arfa Khanum Sherwani. They have unambiguously called out the present dispensation for systematically ostracising the Muslim community in India. Najeeb took a step further and prescribed "affirmative action". This discussion offers much to unpack and discuss - https://youtu.be/9VAa7LfbRvo?si=sB4OkmBQ6qD6eeSx
work profile of irs depends on the department they are posted in you can always change your department depending upon the kind of work you want to do the work differs from research to investigation to raid to adminstration you also have the privilge to go on deputation to different bodies such as ed, cbi, dri,
NLSIU and NALSAR alumni are teaching in the best colleges. That’s because there has always been academic rigour in these two law schools and their best and brightest students have pursued careers in academia, rather than just law firms. Other NLUs are catching up and looking beyond law firms, but they will take another decade to catch up.
What college are you from? I do not think VIPS is good any more. Only around 10 student got a decent figure and a placement out of 400. Good colleges in Delhi NCR are just USLLS, SLS Noida, and Jindal
Hi everyone! I'm currently in the process of interviewing for S&A for their A0 position through my college placement cell, Does anyone know the time they take to finish hiring? This process has been ongoing since Dec 2023 and I'm yet to receive an email scheduling the technical round. If anyone has any idea about this, please shed some light on it. TIA
Hi! So I recently got my internship sorted at a boutique law firm in Barakhamba and am supposed to report there on 1st May, however, because of some changes in circumstances I have to go hunting for PGs for a month there. I have a basic idea about Delhi but I have never booked a PG before. Can anyone here please suggest some nearby areas in which I should look for PGs and also on what forums should I do my research to look for the same? Also is it feasible to physically PG hunt and pay up on the spot? (I shall be reaching Delhi on 30th April)
I am a male, and my budget is 9-10k including food. Thank you!
Your suit will be dismissed.
Better options among law schools/faculty:
DU - CLC for 3-year LLB & 5 year law just started
Jamia
USLLS, GGSIP University campus
Symbiosis Noida
Other okay options if don't get above
VIPS
Amity
Sharda
Galgotia, etc.
Anirudh Belle, Lecturer in Private Law, Pembroke College & D.Phil Candidate, University of Oxford
Dr. Anush Ganesh, PhD UEA, Lecturer in Law, St. Mary's University, Twickenham, London
Dr. Sabarish Suresh, NUS Post Doctoral Fellow
Navya Jannu, D.Phil Candidate, Oxford
Vandita Khanna, PhD Law Candidate, Cambridge
Ishani Mookerji, D.Phil Candidate, Oxford
Titiksha Mohanty, D.Phil Candidate, Oxford
Rishabh Bajoria, Gates Cambridge Scholar, PhD Candidate, Cambridge
https://www.law.ox.ac.uk/people/dev-gangjee#main-content
So, my suggestion to you is simple: give it your best shot, have tangible achievements, and don't feel shy in reaching out to your alumni network — it's undoubtedly the country's best.
Lastly, in terms of giving you a definite answer to your question: the harsh truth is that most firms & HRs will try their best to reject your candidature on frivolous grounds. That said, everyone has bosses to answer to — and if you can tangibly/quantifiably demonstrate your ability and drive to perform to such senior partners, they'll have no option but to take you. That said, I'd recon that your best shot would be through PPOs with accommodative partners. Most HRs are too lazy to actually go through CVs for internships, so you should apply either directly through the alumni network or through your placement committee. Once that's through, you should give each internship your best shot + keep such partners/senior partners informed of your work, so that they can ensure that you're not unfairly treated. If nothing else, you'll be able to collate a set of powerful references and reputation, which should eventually lead to a job soon enough. All the best!
https://twitter.com/harsht2024/status/1782768302873272798.
She says that a survey will be carried out to see how much each caste earns. Then wealth be distributed to those at the bottom, to SC/ST/OBC communities. Practically speaking, I think that the caste that will probably finish on top is the Vaishya/Baniya caste, because families like Ambani, Adani, Jindal etc own a large chunk of India's wealth. Then I guess the Brahmins and Kshatriyas, who are engaged in white collar professions. Now, if you take 30% of Vaishya wealth and maybe 20% of Brahmin/Kshatriya wealth and distribute it to the SC/ST/OBC communities, the inequality gap will be substantially reduced --- not just financial inequality but also social and educational inequality, because the SC/ST/OBC communities can use their new wealth to send their children to good schools and universities. The long term impact will be that India's GDP will be qualitatively superior, not just quantitatively superior. Thus, we will be able to compete with China better, because our current economic situation is lopsided, where only a few castes can benefit from the opportunities given by globalisation.
Amartya Sen has explained this very well, He says that China and India were similarly placed at one time, but the reason China grew faster is because their social base was more equal.
Hence, this is an excellent policy that deserves our support.
if you are disabled, won't you find it problematic to do the kind of document work in law firms? Law firms dont have special systems for the impaired and especially clients arent willing to accommodate the same in costs as well.
Might as well prepare for the judiciary or IAS? (hint hint PWD)
Pls dont take this the wrong way, its just a suggestion/ comment jk
Sad if true :p
Stop allowing political posts until its connected to national news or legal news
Its legally India not politically India
Question everything you read. Try to understand the reason behind every written word. Do not get consumed by preset templates.
Be hungry for knowledge.
Enjoy your downtime and don't complain about not having work.
Develop a hobby outside work.
Keep yourself fit.
They recently completed their process spanning 1.5-2 months in some t2 nlus and handed out some offers. The firm although is pretty transparent about its 3 rounds of interviews.
You've named the most toxic chambers in Delhi.
Dev Saif Gangjee (NLS, now Prof at Oxford/LSE?)
There was someone else from NLS who is probably now Dean or something at Deakin Law, Australia. Previously taught in UK and probably in the US as well.
Reena Patel (?) from NLS studied and later taught at Warwick Law. Came back to India and headed up some lesser known private law schools. Wonder why her name doesn't come up.
P.S- My college get over at 12:30p.m.
It's not like our alumni are doing extremely well across the world, we have a solid image before all T1 firms, and we are doing better than almost all colleges in terms of governmental services and research.
Surprisingly, most people I've met from top colleges think of NLUD as a "T1", so I wonder who these LI trolls are who keep downvoting every NLUD achievement and upvoting anything against NLUD. My boss was someone from NLS, and he told me that one reason I was hired was because I was from a "top law school".
JAG
https://twitter.com/beckyjwright/status/1782536366326464756
Who am I? A law grad who practiced for less than a year and realised that it's not for me. Reasons not relevant here.
What do I do? I work at a leading mid-sized law firm in a strategy and business development role.
What does it entail? Broadly, the following things:
1. External communications - think press releases, deal updates, firm announcements etc. you see on legal media websites.
2. Internal communications - same as above, when communicated internally within the firm.
3. Ranking submissions - you see law firms posting on their social media platforms that they've been ranked by Chambers, Legal500, IFLR, Asialaw, ALB etc.? Well, contrary to popular beliefs, not all of these are paid/ sponsored (at least the good ones that I listed). There are detailed forms to apply for these recognitions. Each platform has its own form. A big part of the role is to fill those forms, submit and laise with these platforms untill their rankings are out.
4. Social media management - don't think I need to explain this one.
5. Practice development - everything that your firm's partners do in order to bring in business and position themselves in the legal industry. Networking events, client pitches, etc.
6. Knowledge management - internal as well as external. Think blogs, articles, thought papers, podcasts etc. published by third parties and on your firm's website.
Why do law firms need lawyers for this role? Because every piece of content that's generated is legal in nature, right from a short social media caption to proofreading KM output, you need someone who has a basic understanding of law.
What's the payscale for freshers? Law firm marketing agencies usually pay 5-8 LPA to freshers. Law firms typically do not hire absolute freshers, but if you're lucky, you would get around 7-10 LPA.
What skill set do you need? Basic understanding of law. Good communication skills. Creativity and design sense. Some experience with Canva would work in your favour. Social media management. Content development.
Hope this helps.
WPA/10583/2024 (before Justice Kaushik Chanda pertaining to WBNUJS/VC inaction on SH matter)
WPA/3644/2024 (before Justice Jay Sengupta pertaining to police inaction on the SH issue)
Very likely both will come up for hearing this week.
The writ filed by a former Accounts Officer pertaining to leave encashment (following his retirement) was disposed in March 2024. Justice Kaushik Chanda in WPA 2599/2024 directed WBNUJS to take a decision concerning the representation made by the ex-AO to NKC, who was accused of inaction, non-communication and stonewalling. Ironic, because that is what the AO used to do as well!
The ex-AR Admin matter concerning SH as well is in limbo following the transfer of the concerned judge to Telangana HC. That's WPA/16208/2019. Will be interesting if he were to return to campus.
Do one thing- study basics of IP law. You won't ask such foolish questions on such platforms again. They're just notes- share them. Just have a word with her, and resolve the issue.
But to say that NLUD is tier-2 only speaks of your own insecurity, and how out-of-touch from reality you are.
In the UK, are law firms more in awe of the NLSIU tag than a tier 2 tag? Does NLSIU get more TCs than such colleges, because it is more respected?
In India, I guess NLSIU is more respected? I hardly heard of any CAM/SAM partner or associate with a UK tier 2 LLB. Even in small law firms you don’t see such people much. Or could it be that such people don’t return to India and prefer to work and settle abroad?
2. If NLS taught you such inane arguments, then it's better not to study there. Going by your logic, you didn't get a seat at DU. Hence DU must be better than NLS.
Surabhi Ranganathan - NLS (2005) - Teaching at Cambridge
Neha Jain - NLS (2005) - Teaching at Northwestern
I am a male, and my budget is 9-10k including food. Thank you!