Arey ruk ja, aise nahi hota hai. Referrals aren't samosas to be given a dime a dozen. They mean something and reflect on the credibility of the name of the person signing them. They can't be given to randoms online, they need some length in the period of association between you and the referral giver wherein the later supervised work you did and felt it was at least fairly decent.

True story. I was an utterly mediocre student throughout school and college. I did very little to help my cause. I never developed even the most basic habits, such as reading good literature or reading newspapers regularly, despite knowing full well how utterly mediocre my CBSE education had been.

Toward the end of college, I somehow landed an internship at a Tier 1 law firm, courtesy of someone who did me a favour while making sure everyone concerned knew I was merely a “distant relative”. Why wouldn’t they? I went in thinking that if I put in every ounce of time, hard work and effort I could muster, I might earn a callback or a pre-placement offer (PPO).

The partners and associates who supervised my work, at every level, appreciated my effort. But the work itself was subpar, nowhere near the standard required for a job at that firm or, for that matter, any self-respecting Tier 1 firm.

Had I woken up then and taken myself seriously enough to develop my legal knowledge, reasoning and communication skills, perhaps today, I would have a reasonably well-paying job or a busy legal practice. Perhaps I wouldn’t still be sleeping in my parents’ guest room. Perhaps I’d even be married, with a car of my own. You know.. the basics!

I still call myself a lawyer, despite doing little more than taking on sundry legal work from neighbours and family friends, mostly for free or at fees that would make a lawyer with even two years’ PQE chuckle. I live mostly off my parents. My circumstances frighten away even the people I date who genuinely want to like me. For a time, I even found myself hating women, with all that rejection, for what I perceived as hypergamy. It was an ugly rabbit hole, one I eventually managed to climb out of through some honest self-reflection.

When you find yourself in this position in life and realise that you have no one to blame but yourself, you cannot even bring yourself to cry for the relief it might offer. You endure the pain and regret, and learn to live and - somehow - work with both. It's difficult and that level of pain and regret makes you inefficient.

Fortunately, I am neither suicidal nor superstitious. I’ve seen people in circumstances even remotely similar to mine become absolute goners. I keep my mind sharp with podcasts, books and exercise. Livestreaming of court proceedings has helped me too as a lawyer.

My advice to anyone who finds themselves in a situation even remotely resembling mine is simple: if what you are doing isn’t working, have the courage to try something else sooner rather than later. But whatever you do, don’t give up on yourself. Keep trying, and build yourself to make every effort land better than before - that's key.

They do get paid in recommendation letters and admissions to foreign universities and consideration by foreign firms. If they want to write that they were an editor of a law review - they should have to earn it. This is clearly AI fraud that’s slipped through ! Editors should be ashamed and not write that they edited a law review on their CVs.

NUJS already has such a policy. It is noted in a form that an unfair means instance has been spotted, and the student is later issued a show cause notice, but they are allowed to write the exam at that point. Some instances of detection are false positives, in which case no harm done.

I would say that while ageism exists it's actually better in Indian society. In America you cannot post nostalgia post like 90s kid like, 80s kid will remember, Back in my Time we used to... Type posts without getting brutally insulted or roasted for it by GenZ hordes. In India meanwhile Genz don't seem to mind such posts and even positively share sentiments about how they too like stuff from these times

It matters only when you want to break in as a fresher, and a bit more so then if you are not from a T-1 NLU. Post that, things like your firm, team, deals and college tag matter. Alongside your own skills and knowledge ofc. I have seen quite low rankers from my batch switch to firms like CAM, when their internship and dayz applications would be outrightly rejected by them back in uni due to rank. Nobody really cares about your grades post uni in any field unless you are a gold medallist or have a back year or smth.

That is precisely what is wrong with legal scholarship and the profession. Wrong citations, methodologies or different results upon replication in natural sciences research lead to rejection. As lawyers, we know the importance of each word and punctuation of an authority in determining the law and its consequent contemporary real-world implications. Legal peer reviewers aren't even expected to replicate the results, but they still can't be bothered to check if an entire quoted para is wrongly cited. This is one of the reasons why the impact factor of legal journals is paltry compared to the natural sciences.
No peer reviewer in any field is paid. Thus, money clearly isn't the primary factor that determines whether a peer reviewer actually reviews. The contribution of a peer review towards the field and knowledge may be a more apt metric, as that contribution is definitely lower in law, evident through a metric like the impact factor.

The judgment provided by LegallyIndia relates to OMP. (COMM) 73/2016 delivered on 28.11.2016, while the citation "2022 SCC OnLine Del 120" in the article relates to O.M.P. (COMM) 153/2020 delivered on 12.01.2022, meaning they are different cases with the same party names. While mistakes are understandable, the onus on a legal peer reviewer increases when an entire paragraph is being quoted. The wrong citations clearly show shoddy peer review standards of NLSIR. Evidently, OP's claim is still true as the citation is wrong, which means it has not been peer-reviewed. Besides, we all know how unreliable Indian Kanoon is what its acceptability in courts is as compared to SCC OnLine.

Do you even understand how much good criminal counsels can earn? Apart from the 'intermediary' role you have mentioned (which ensures criminal advocates have some of the top networks in their city), there is a loooooot of blakc money that can come your way. Most criminal advocates typically charge less or in a package amount simply because of the number of matters you get, from 138 matters to criminal defamation to quashing to ABA/BAs. In Bombay, while the top senior criminal counsels charge less per appearance than the top commercial ones, they can more than make up for this by trial court work as well as the sheer number of criminal cases that come through. Criminal law actually has a dearth of good advocates at the appellate level, unlike commercial/civil which is chock full at every level.

It’s surprising to see that a firm like L&L, which even a few years ago, was considered to be a good law firm and had a good working environment, has now gone down the drain.

Across all bands, except GR’s team, barely anyone got decent increments and I’ve heard that many counsels were not even given increments. Also, bonuses for the past F.Y. were not given to most counsels while the partners retained their two tranches.

After the fiasco of increments, so many people are leaving the firm and what’s more surprising to see that the partners are replacing experienced counsels with freshers which lead to diminishing work quality.

Another thing is that the EPs for some reason have also not given increments to non-counsels this year.

I’ve also heard that a few partners are leaving as well, even from the so called protégés team. Well as for the protégé, another thread is already exposing his works and the way he operates.

Sisterhood in this profession is a myth. Women elbow out other women and latch on to male mentors/daddies, hoping to get a seat at the table. Some manage to get there, but not on the basis of sheer competency alone. They have to sacrifice a lot if they come from not so privileged backgrounds. For those who come from privilege, world is an oyester, but even they have to sacrifice some things. Compare to male counterparts, things are just more difficult.

Hello, I interned there at the end of my 3rd semester, and see the best teams by no doubt are RDO's Office but they wont take you in your 2nd year if you don't have any connections, I would suggest based on your interest you could apply for charkha, criminal law team, health law, environment team, and so on. like based on your interest of course.

I did mine under the health team, and the seniors were really good there.

Why was part of the comment censored? More importantly, how is a comment deemed objectionable when it relates to this team, but not when sweeping statements are made about CAM being "toxic" as a whole?

The original comment was actually quite balanced. By removing part of it, the remaining version now reads as little more than CAM-bashing, which I doubt was the intent.

In any event, the comment did not say anything that has not already been repeated throughout this thread. One of the recurring observations, including from those familiar with the team, has been that it operated in a silo and was not particularly known for collaboration outside its immediate group. Whether one agrees with that assessment or not, it is hardly a new allegation being introduced here.

If comments are going to be moderated, the standard should at least be applied consistently, rather than selectively removing one side of the discussion while leaving equally strong statements on the other side untouched.

Exhibit A. The NLS blog.

"Sites of Disruption: Actions and Consequences in Greek Tragedy | Action and Plot"

"Scholars in Conversation: Lucas Lixinski with Siddharth Narrain"

"Scholars in Conversation: Stanley Yeo with Nikita Ahalyan"

"An Exit from Personal Law? Atheism, Inheritance, and the Architecture of Secular Default Law"

"Micro-Dilutions and Administrative Resistance to RTI: An Analysis of Procedural Subversion"

https://forum.nls.ac.in/the-nls-blog/

Are faculty at other NLUs capable of such output? If not, then can we conclude that NLSIU students are being exposed to superior instruction and pedagogy? And that this has an impact of the quality of students produced, in the end?

Feels terribly lonely being a student. I don't like Modi and the Dehat Right. But my fellow students all seem to believe that the alternative is a Dehat Left. The CJP, INDIA Alliance parties and caste identity movements are all regressive, identitarian and welfarist parties. The need of the hour is a movement to support economic reforms, governance reforms and meritocracy, modelled on Lee Kuan Yew, Thatcher, Reagan etc. The whole discourse at NLUs is depressing.

- Nirav Modi

- Mehul Choksi

- AAP leader Somnath Bharti

- DMK leader A Raja

- DMK leader Kanimozhi

- Rajesh Aggarwal (co-accused in money laundering cases involving Lalu Yadav's family)

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/mehul-choksis-lawyer-vijay-aggarwal-charged-with-rape-sexual-assault-in-london-12163167

https://www.youtube.com/@VijayAggarwal/videos

https://vijayaggarwaladvocate.wordpress.com/2019/06/06/the-untold-story-of-advocate-vijay-aggarwal/

See- ill be honest we say good nice things to all the interns. No one is brutal towards interns.

However if you team said good things about you- the process is that you should not applu again. Instead they will tell the HR to process your call back. Then HR will call you saamne se and ask you whixh months are suitable for you.

In your current situation, pls reach out to your team’s PA or Partner and request them for a call back.

Funny how every time the conversation gets to attrition, culture or leadership, someone suddenly remembers an urgent appointment with "moving on". If the issues were as insignificant as some suggest, people wouldn't be spending so much energy explaining why nobody should discuss them. At this point, the attempts to dismiss the discussion are becoming more interesting than the discussion itself.

hi, is mumbai the best option? I am from Bangalore, but there seems to be no partner listed for the bangalore office, I thought it was closed or sm but the higherknowledge assessment asks me to choose an office. Should bombay be preferred over bangalore? or is delhi where it is at ?

Elon Musk just addressed Mukesh Ambani as “Prime Minister Ambani”, because of how successfully he has kept foreign competition out. Doesn’t that apply to Cyril Shroff as well?

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2108604227643719745

I have been a Assistant Professor at a Private university in India for 4 years. I wish to teach a semester at NSLIU/NALSAR as a visiting Professor. Does any academic colleague have any feedback about their experience of teaching these students? I have heard stories of Non-NLU or Foreign grad academics being treated poorly by these students or looked down upon. Any idea?

yes, your application only goes through once the entire cohort that you worked under provides feedback. As this is formal procedure they have to do, most associates do not pay much heed to it. Thus, even HR ignores the recommendation as they are very common, unless its super detailed / you have a strong PA / Partner backing. Many do not get a response / receive a generic rejection, do not be disheartened and follow up with those associates you were genuinely impressed by you / try elsewhere.

This is despicable. Better to politely ask people to look elsewhere rather than destroy their confidence this way. Reading this makes me relieved that I turned down an offer from them ages ago (despite being told it is a great team and that no one takes you for granted in that team).

Honestly, I feel that having a referral could make a meaningful difference in my application to Khaitan & Co. If you happen to know someone who might be willing to refer me or guide me regarding an internship opportunity, I would be extremely grateful for your help. I completely understand if that may not be possible, but I thought I would ask.

NLS 3 year LLBs are getting placed and also there is no end date to starting a legal career. But if you want to join corporate law you need to upfront be at peace with your immediate seniors being younger than you. There are a fair number of examples of people who have successfully switched to corporate law at a later stage in my life but I have also seen a few people struggle with taking instructions and criticisms from people much younger than then and then quitting. As long as you can manage that you will do fine.

AK & Partners in Delhi. It's not attrition rate it's musical chairs. Entire team (both lit and corp) is replaced every 2 quarters. People are fired (usually) or leave at a rate of one a month. Grounds are usually bogus and I won't give much detail or I will receive a mediation notice or get a call from a police station (not joking, lol)

I am a final year student of tier 2 NLU. I'm looking for a long-term internship (4-6 months) in Mumbai with fair chances of conversion to job opportunity. Could someone pls give heads up on which firms have prospects of hiring for batch of 2027 in commercial litigation & disputes teams and if you could also share a rough overview of pay and work environment