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Further, IITB has produced professionals who are best in the world in their field. NLS or any other NLU has not really done that much.
The sad part is that Indian big lawyers prefer to donate to Jiggles or foreign Universities instead of law universities in the country. This mindset needs to change
JLU u are killing our children slowly….morally ethically and physically. You are selfish! And you don’t care.
Karm ka yog sabke liye hai
https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/170765-quantifying-the-greatness-of-nls#comment-225772
No doubt, the comments of VC during his address was out of place and it certainly need to condemned but there is a time and place. This certainly is not the time, when her parents are yet to grieve over their kids death, yet to perform the last rites and say prayers to the departed soul.
As external agencies, we ought to measure our words and place in public domain, as we dont know what actually happens, what pushed her to take this drastic step. Let the investigation complete and yes, we certainly should push for a fair investigation so that we get to the root cause of this tragedy. We should see to it that police puts all the facts in public domain and that proper actions are taken.
Sitting on the sidelines and making unsubstantiated comments, making vile allegations, is not going to bring justice to her but certainly is going to tarnish the image of the university and the students. Is this your agenda?
Moral of the story: No city is safe after 11 pm or so.
More than1000 lawyers.
ii) Han India mein hi. At 18, people usually won't have older parents whom they absolutely can't leave. In case they have an older parent, usually they will have an elder brother/sister. I never said that it cannot be the case but usually it's not common and will not fall under 1% of the cases.
iii) If you are not willing to bear the costs then you don't deserve the growth, it's as simple as that!
All T1 NLUs have internal scholarships which can extend to 100% of the fees depending on the financial situation of the family + Education loans usually can cover traveling expenses as well. So, please ask that person to come out so that everyone gets to know what the actual problem that he had faced.
iii) But OP did compare themselves with NLU kids. The main issue was the NLU v non-NLU fight.
Boutiques can be big firms too. Eg: ICUL and a lot of others. Depends on which firm it was
See getting the transplant wont address the underlying reason i.e DHT.
You have to keep taking these medicines post transplant to maintain the hair.
There is no permanent and one time solution to baldness.
You have to keep managing it.
Given the historical preference for woke candidates, this should help his chances.
Anyone have some inside gossip on Wegovy/Ozempic use in law firms ?
My deepest condolences to her family. Om shanti.
If you want a average law College go for sjrc, vv Puram, Ram Manohar Lohia College, and BES Law College.
Private University colleges are CMR Law School, Dayanand Sagar Law college.
If you have money go for NLSIU.
https://www.pratidintime.com/guwahati-news-breaking-latest/nfsu-to-come-up-on-50-acres-of-land-at-cost-of-rs-300-cr-assam-cm
Tripura Government allocates ₹100 croreshttps://indianexpress.com/article/cities/ahmedabad/gujarat-tripura-allocates-rs-100-crore-to-set-up-nfsu-campus-on-70-acre-site-7592538/
Note that these are in addition to the central funding NFSU receives for being an INI.
Kindly requesting you all to respect the privacy of our dearest friend Urvi, and her family at this tough and trying time. I am writing this email on behalf of her closest friends, and we know that Urvi has taken this unfortunate step due to very personal reasons and has nothing to do with the college administration. While we understand that the meeting at the auditorium yesterday might have ignited some anger among the student body, kindly understand that at this point the University administration has more important issues to take care of. They are all working to ensure that her family and her friends are taken care of at this hour, and that is definitely the biggest priority. Any issues on condemning a speech can wait for later. We are now solely and only concerned with how her near and dear are. Kindly refrain from reposting any messages of condemnation at least for the initial few weeks so that her family can deal with the grief in a personal matter and not have it made into a politicised conversation and let them grieve in peace. Additionally refrain from starting any threads or conversations regarding this on social media platforms for now, regarding the administration’s stand or her to ensure that her privacy is not violated in the process. She was someone who hated to have her name thrown out and about in any manner. Please adhere to this to respect her late soul. May her rest in peace.
Regards,
Parvati, Kirti, Radhika, Adrija, Ojaswi.
dont be like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWrne5btxaQ
or if you want to take a chance then do transplant (but the entire process takes 3-4 weeks, so be prepared)
A student gets her MacBook stolen, she faces proctorial proceedings for trespassing in the university instead of being helped w the police.
Girl students are shouted at by a specific ▮▮▮ prof, a ▮▮▮ prof and another ▮▮▮ prof (▮▮▮ of ▮▮▮ ▮▮▮) for entering the hostel at 10:31 instead of 10:30.
Complaints of sexual harassment are dismissed ▮▮▮. ▮▮▮ on grounds that "women in this world need to be stronger" and "jhoot mat bolo"
HNLU rots in the swell of its own doing. Professors who are expected to be pillars of virtue and justice, being teachers of those qualities of humankind that are most cherished and protected, violate these tenets themselves. We as students are shook by this callousness.
The only exception being nothing gets discussed. It gets laid on — and thick. The firm just lays down a random barrage of corporate speak on us poor (no literally) souls who would just wish to go home and pass out after another week of being subject to back breaking labour to fund properties in Golf Links.
No perspectives get discussed — no comments on how the firm plans to counter the rising tide of exits, how it plans to entice employees to stay despite higher competitive pay, etc etc. Just some stories on how they gained a record number of IG followers and how cycling with the team is a great exercise.
Excellent. That’s fine but it’s been a few months since March and I still don’t know how much I’m earning given the firm’s reluctance to announce increments. Must be good practice to ensure it’s announced so late that employees are forced to stay till March to get atleast some chunk of that mythical bonus.
If SAM is listening (must be Crop
Does anyone have any tips as to how to go about the internship to make the best possible impression to secure a callback/PPO? (I'm in 5th year)
I understand its not guaranteed and I shouldn't be pressuring myself even before the internship has begun but I want to perform my best atleast as its my first T1 Internship.
Tips are appreciated. Thank you so much!
It's so refreshing to see a Gen Z girl who is so mature, humble and grounded in values despite her success. 👏❤️ A real contrast to some of the brats we come across at NLUs!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R527KVzZtc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7Y0CXtXH-U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FGu98JMDQc
In a twist of fate, I found myself journeying to Kolkata for a week, immersed in the drudgery of a due-diligence exercise. There, as if out of a storybook, I chanced upon what seemed like an elixir: Arnica Plus-Triofer (Triple Action-Hair Vitalizer). The chemist, playing the part of the sage, advised a year of commitment to these tablets and potion. Desperate and hopeful, like a moth drawn to a flame, I zealously embraced Allen’s Arnica Plus.
Alas, six months of unwavering devotion, and I bore a striking resemblance to the protagonist of 'Alag' (2006) - though now with the added charm of a perpetually upset stomach. Thanks to that serendipitous meeting with the chemist, not only do I stand out, but I can now, at whim, conjure gusts of rather pungent air biscuits. Ah, life and its little surprises!
The only downside is that you have to read on your phone or an e-reader, because actually reading a book in court might be looked down upon.
Is coaching really necessary to qualify DJS? The cost of Rahul's IAS - only decent coaching - is 300K. It's way too much for me, moreover, I think it is unjustifiably high. Can I prepare on my own? Does he really teach anything that one cannot learn on his own?
Also, I want to continue with internships and publications - to have something on my CV so that I can land a decent job after law school - but if I join coaching then I have to completely stop it because classes cannot be paused.
https://twitter.com/sardesairajdeep/status/1694591692165591117
But although everyone is praising the letter I find it casteist and elitist. The letter says that he is from a “wealthy and cultured family” and has relatives at Oxford. Like WTF man???? Is this how elite universities used to admit people? No mention of grades either. Such a letter would be thrown in the bin today, because foreign universities today actually prefer people from underprivileged backgrounds, while we have reservation in India for oppressed castes.
I have interned with the firm in their corporate and I really want to put out my feedback that sitting idle is better choice than doing DSK Corporate internship. Even HR told me that they dont have much work in corporate.
Nevertheless their litigation is good.
So please dont waste you month in thier corporate instead work at boutique law firm in physical mode.
Tnx
I do support the advice you gave, and with the second paragraph in general.
Mere do paise on this:
1. The top tier firm law partners who are non-NLU were so before NLUs become relevant. If you were to judge based on that criteria alone in today's time, we still have T1,2 and 3 NLUs, where the lowest rung NLUs suffer just as much as outlier colleges.
2. Litigation has always been dominated by state unis for the same reason. Also, the kind of money that is spent in NLUs to obtain the degree, it is generally hard for the NLU grad to shift to litigation with its low paying culture and survive for a significant amount of time before the dice starts rolling.
3. Regarding rigour of NLUs, this is something that most state unis do not get. Your courses are tougher than ours, with dozens of research papers, assignments, moots, paper presentations, seminars and what not.
[I guess] the point that OP is trying to make is that even after doing everything you said in the second paragraph (and as someone who has personally done that to separate myself from the crowd at my state uni), there are still biased notions that are held on by most law firms (not referring to tiers here). Its not like they are not insurmountable, they just require a lot more time than what someone else starting further from the starting line would need. On top of that (as far as LI threads have reported) there is also this particular habit of tiered law firms to discount the years of experience when laterally shifting for better pay and for obvious ambition.
Big dogs are sniffing for the wrong things is what we mean mostly. Am I equivalent to the top crop of NLUs? Probably not. But a lot of students from NLUs who do get hired sometimes do a shabbier job than a big bunch of us and that is where the systemic problem lies.
https://www.freepressjournal.in/education/chhattisgarh-body-of-hnlu-student-found-in-hostel-bathroom-police-probe-on
https://m.timesofindia.com/city/raipur/student-from-bihar-found-dead-in-hnlu-hostel-room/amp_articleshow/103040373.cms
Let's be objective, please. There are many reasons why people commit suicide. We don't know what happened here. The supposed problems being complained of exist in many other universities.
This is a definitely not normal.
I was an A0 and I made the silliest mistakes. My seniors never shouted at me. Instead they understood and took the time to explain/ show how it is done. I may have been scolded, but not screamed at where I felt like I was being put down.
Some people let power and money get to the head. There’s no excuse be that pathetic. I hope you break the cycle and treat your juniors better.
Actionable advice - if everyone around you is acting as if this normal, stay there for 6 months and try to learn as much as possible and start looking for another job soon.
You’re from SCAM. You already have good brand value. There are enough jobs in the market. Start following recruiters on LinkedIn who keep posting vacancies - Vahura, Adept, Avimukta
You’ll realise your boss doesn’t have that much power over you as you might think he/ she has.
Chin up. Better days are ahead of you.
Just so you know - what you are feeling is valid and lot of us have gone through this. Just to add more context and give you a more proper answer:
First year at a T1 is extremely chaotic. Because you’re suddenly thrown into this fast paced culture which is very different from college. Also, since you’re learning different processes - not just law, but things which aren’t written anywhere (internal law firm workflow/ how courts work/ which senior has what style of working - what he/ she likes dislikes), this just takes up a lot of your time.
Since this isn’t exactly billable work or work in the traditional sense where you are completing a project, you may not realise it, but this is also a groundwork which you need to put in to get a foothold.
Also, from some seniors there is sometimes an expectation that - this person is a junior at beginning of career. They know nothing, so they should sacrifice everything else to learn and make their career. We have slogged and so should they. At times, you might feel like you’re dancing to the tune of your senior (I hope you have reasonable seniors).
And it is partly true. You’re at the beginning of your career. When you’re going from 0 to 1, that extra effort will be required. Think of it this way - you’re building your credibility at this stage where people are monitoring you and trying to form an opinion about you - is he/ she a trustworthy candidate who can take ownership of work. So you need to put in that extra effort.
This is not to say that you should give up all your hobbies. Trust me, only focusing on work - that will drive you crazy. (Been there done that - ended up depressed)
But yes, getting time to read will be difficult. Also since you’ll be cramming yourself with judgements at work, your mind will be constantly overloaded and your mind will crave an instant relief - on weekends automatically you will want to sleep/ do something more dynamic like going out/ watching a movie etc.
But over time you’ll need to draw boundaries at your workplace. Casually discuss with your team members maybe that you like doing/ you have certain hobbies. (Reasonable bosses realise their associates need to recharge) Also, as previously mentioned - reading in the morning when work chaos hasn’t started - that’s a good time to try out (again depends on how your team works/ what time your boss emails you)
Again, these are only generic advice. The specific advice will depend on your specific circumstances. I hope you find your peace and your time to pursue your hobbies. Because as someone once said:
“
Medicine, law, business, engineering, these are all noble pursuits, and necessary to sustain life. But poetry, beauty, romance, love, these are what we stay alive for.
“
~ FR
That's PR right?
It's our role as students to band together, organise, come up with a list of reforms and approach the administration to implement.
https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/274376-innocence-shattered-tragic-events-unfold-at-nlu#comment-274376
What if you get a partial ride with fellowship in M7>T15>Europe MBAs. These days these types of fellowships are not uncommon as I mentioned earlier. It just depends on your affordability.
And even if you don't get a scholarship working abroad(in top cities in the west) for 5yrs isn't a bad option, but it is not for everyone.
It would also be worth factoring non financial aspects like staying away from family, working in a new culture, adjusting in a new environment also.
Let's take an example, there is one Private Equity opening in Mumbai 2 candidates with identical soft and hard skills. One is from Booth other is from IIM A. Booth MBA is the clear win. There would be 50 other IIM A candidates the firm would have encountered, but a Booth Candidate clearly sets himself apart from all other candidates.
Talking about Indian Big Shots being from IIM A it's mainly because those Indians who go abroad for a top MBA stay abroad and become biggies abroad in global HQs and he will be superior to the Indian IIM Biggies [lots of famous cases]. (99% of the time). Not that a top foreign MBA can't become a biggie in India, for all you know he will become a biggie faster.
But if you are a person short of funds, if you don't have any goals of immediately working abroad for next 5+yrs simply stick to an Indian B School.
Today many senior professionals I spoke with consider an Indian MBA( which is not an MBA in most of the cases) as an Insult even though they get high salaries. Mostly youngsters fresh out of Grad school with negligible experience and skills get into to IIM ABC after a CAT lottery.
What I want to say is Global can any day become local, but a local can't be global anyday. ( deliberately wrote it wrong grammatically).
Ask yourself a few more questions where would a top millionaire, billionaire, industrialist or a top corporate tycoon send his children for an MBA? Even though his company including senior management will be filled with IIM grads.
Why did Indira Nooyi pick Yale? Why is she critical about Indian B Schools?
No offense to IIMs, they have the geographic advantage. But the world is much bigger than IIM ABC. There are much better options.
There are much better work locations apart from Mumbai Bangalore and Gurgaon.
While addressing the students today the VC had the audacity to boast about the reputation of the university in his tenure and facts about inviting CJI for convocation at this sad hour. He didn't stop there but started concocting theories that the deceased that good academic record and hence involvement of University is far-fetched.
The insensitive VC had the brazenness to point fingers and politicise matter at this odd hour. HNLU admin has cancelled classes for 10 days to pacify the matter ▮▮▮.
The administration has played a significant role in destroying mental health of students by denigrating them at all levels including the hostel suspensions and other regressive steps. Problems of students are not heard at all. Policy of arbitrary in timings. A female student who complained about the security concerns at girls hostel was silenced and other student who alleged gangraped was threatened to not do anything ▮▮▮. The voice of students are muzzled at every point.
Wardens in ▮▮▮ hostel have left no stone unturned to make life of students hell by raiding hostels and making insensitive comments on their students. ▮▮▮. Insensitive comments that you are here to make our life tough not only hurt the students but also affects them.
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I am writing this with very pain and hence request R to publish this without moderation because this information needs dissemination and this should reach to a wider audience so that HNLU administration can be questioned. The university that tries to silence the significant stakeholders isn't a conducive place and hence needs urgent attention. This thread is a reflection of HNLU student community.
This info can be verified from following news report:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.naidunia.com/lite/chhattisgarh/raipur-raipur-crime-suspected-death-of-hidayatullah-law-university-student-dead-body-found-in-washroom-fear-of-suicide-8214567
https://www.livehindustan.com/chhattisgarh/story-hnlu-raipur-ballb-final-year-girl-student-suicides-dead-body-recovered-from-hostel-washroom-8618195.html
I am a 4th yr law student, and I know quite a lot of law firms and their practice areas, rankings, etc. But on browsing LegallyIndia, I have realised that there are still several firms which are unknown to me.
Is ther a city-wise list of law firms, or how could I explore more firms?
I guess many of you were here at my stage.
Did somebody found out the solution to it!
You could help thousands man
A random 33 counsel firm merges and gets dibs on the MP designation of a 200+ counsel firm? That either means that either the 200+ counsel firm was in TERRIBLE shape or the claims of democratization are hogwash
But clearly if you are gunning for big money, big dogs will look for excuses to filter through the bunch.
What you can do to stand out? write, publish, present, anything that seperates you from the general gunk coming out of donation quota institutes. Mind you, NLUs already have a filtration criteria at CLAT, howsoever silly it may be, meaning dumbest kids at NLUs are presumed to be smarter than non-NLU klds. That presumption is very rebuttable.
Sorry, for bursting bubbles.