I have not yet downvoted this comment, but the thing is when there is so much concerted effort to show NFSU in a negative light through made-up stories (a few days back some clown came up with a "friend's daughter" story and now this one, shows how much fear and jealousy about NFSU exists on this platform. NFSU has an annual operating budget of 550 crores already and will top 1000 crores in the next 3 - 4 years. Therefore, the jealousy and hatred on this platform are only natural. Keep trying - an elephant does not stop its walk because some dogs bark on the sidelines.
The NHRC has released a new report titled that spans two very critical subject areas - Forensic Science and Human Rights. This is a great example of the collaborative effort between NHRC and NFSU. The foreword of this report is by Justice Arun Mishra, Chairperson, NHRC.
Download the report....https://nhrc.nic.in/sites/default/files/Fotrensic_Sc_HR_Book_2024_0.pdf
Enjoy, and utilize this to trigger new ideas for research and application.
Firstly, it is OK if some bloke writes nonsense about NFSU with a long fictitious story, but not OK when I respond.
Secondly, I wonder why several NLUs have research centers and/or departments on forensic science (NUJS, NLUD, MNLU, etc.) and a dozen have signed MOUs with NFSU. Almost every NLU teaches at least one course/subject on forensic science. All these must be really crazy people.
Thirdly, it would be good to know if there's any NLU that teaches fashion design or hotel management in their law curriculum.
So get off your high horse, and just observe this thread quietly. You don't have the mental faculty to understand why NFSU is discussed here.
If I name them, the moderators of this great platform will spare no effort in flagging the post as trollish or contested. They are extra sensitive to posting any good information about NFSU but continue to post on trivial idiotic topics like lawyers' marriages, Thailand trips, Chaat in Delhi and Mumbai, etc.
Also, NFSU itself does not need endorsement on this platform.
Feel free whatever you like to recommend to your "friend's daughter". But this is a very convoluted way of presenting your views - nice story but you see this platform is full of such trolls.
As far as faculty are concerned, there are good faculty already and the university is in the process of hiring 4 Full Professors and 4 Associate & Assistant Professors, just in the School of Law. In a location like Delhi, attracting good faculty with salary scales of 7th CPC should not be an issue.
DSLSA in collaboration with the National Forensic Science University, Department of Law, Forensic Justice & Policy Studies set up a Legal Services Clinic in the premises of the National Forensic Science University, Delhi Campus.
Hon’ble Mr. Justice Manmohan, Judge, Acting Chief Justice, High Court of Delhi & Executive Chairperson, DSLSA graced the occasion and inaugurated the Legal Services Clinic in the august presence of Hon’ble Mr. Justice Girish Kathpalia, Judge, High Court of Delhi, Sh. Mukesh Kumar Gupta, Ld. Member Secretary, DSLSA, Ld. Secretaries of DSLSA/DLSAs, Prof. (Dr.) Purvi Pokhariyal, Campus Director, NFSU Delhi Campus, and other eminent personalities.
A Legal Services Information Board depicting the information about the availability of free legal aid and the categories entitled thereof was also inaugurated.
KPMG is the partner providing expertise in digital forensics. This deal shows the potential of digital forensics, and more will come. NFSU will be a direct beneficiary of such initiatives.
Under the leadership of Prof. S.S. Iyengar, NFSU will set up a CoE for Underwater Forensics, an essential component of Maritime Law and Justice. Prof. Iyengar is famous for the Brooks-Iyengar Algorithm.
In NFSU Law School, the internships start from 1st Semester. Moreover, there's no shortage of internships in Delhi.
For others - NFSU Law School has not increased its 2024-29 cohort tuition fees. It continues to be ₹65,000 per semester (as it was for the previous 2023-28 cohort). Moreover, after joining, the fee remains the same for the entire five years.
NFSU has a separate School of Doctoral Studies and Research. Of the 50+ programs it offers, only six are integrated 5-year UG programs. The point is that NFSU is primarily a university focused on PG and higher degrees. Ph.D. in Law is an up-and-coming program, and if one intends to pursue research in areas that connect law with various contemporary aspects of forensic sciences, then there is no better option. A Ph.D. aspirant should be able to leverage the niche (strength areas) that a university provides (e.g. if the intent is to focus on IP Law then there's no better option than IIT KGP SoL). Within NFSU there's no dearth of funding, research projects, data, labs etc. that are essential for a Ph.D. student.
The course is very good. It is an Institution of National Importance (INI). You can do your research, but to get started....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=988RRcQr5xc.
NFSU's LLM in Criminal Law and Criminal Justice Administration. This happens in the Delhi campus, hence you'll get the locational benefit as well, plus it is a NATIONAL university. Admission is through CLAT PG.
Well said. It is amusing to see how aspirants pose queries. They think they choose universities and guides, without realizing that universities and their faculty choose Ph.D. students. The question that a Ph.D. student should be asking is "Am I good enough to be selected by a good Ph.D. guide" not the other way.
Continue with the allotted advisor, and when possible keep consulting the preferred advisor. If you can, then the preferred advisor can also be formally made a joint advisor (provided she/he agrees).
If Tenzing Norkay and Edmund Hillary had thought like that they'd never be the first ones to scale Mount Everest. If (as you say) there are a "handful of people" researching this, then this is a topic ripe for a doctorate as there are several research problems that can come out.
CyberPeace and NFSU get into a strategic partnership to pursue practical research in the area of cyber security, cyber crimes, AI, machine learning, and digital forensics.
For the above, no better place than NFSU. State NLUs are not designed for higher degree programs (master's and doctorate). They are primarily UG teaching universities. They lack the research culture. Moreover, for a doctorate you need funding, resources, data, and labs in these areas you have mentioned. These subjects (i.e. cyberspace, cybersecurity, and cybercrime) don't fall within NLU expertise anyway. State NLUs are more skewed humanities-oriented traditional law. There is a reason why NLUs still give more importance to BA.LLB, than to any other combination. Think of it - being located in Bangalore (India's tech capital) one would expect NLS to build a niche in these areas, but it hasn't. Its flagship program is still the outdated BA.LLB.
NFSU has the best capability in this area. It already offers an LLM in Cyber Law and Cyber Crime Investigation. It combines cyber and digital forensics with law. With the funding crunch, NLUs are followers in this space and hence GNLU, NLUJ, MNLU Mumbai, and WBNUJS have signed MOUs with NFSU. NFSU is the only place you will have access to Digital Forensics and Cybersecurity Labs. NFSU gets roped in on many GOI initiatives and projects in this domain. NFSU will only grow in impact and visibility. If you truly wish to build a name in this subject area, NFSU provides the best platform and brand.
If you have a specific research problem in mind that is at the intersection of digital forensics and legal practice, then get in touch with NFSU. In the digital age, this is definitely a topic that needs investigation, hence will be a good research topic. At NFSU, as I mentioned previously, you will have access to data, tools, and expertise through the digital forensic labs (that you cannot get anywhere else). The VC himself (a Padmashri Awardee) is an accomplished forensic scientist and a trained lawyer (recently felicitated by the GoI for his service to the nation). Now it is up to you whether you are good enough to be taken in as a research student by a good faculty. All the best.
This is an NLU platform, where you are supposed to eulogize NLUs. The admins find it distressing to share any genuine good news and achievements by NFSU - not that it matters to NFSU anyway. It continues to grow in footprint and impact in leaps and bounds.
This is the second such initiative after the Directorate General of GST Intelligence (DGGI) set up five labs in Gandhinagar, Delhi, Mumbai, Chennai, and Kolkata with a funding of ₹16 crores. https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=1994273
If you "genuinely" want to do a Ph.D., then you must be knowing that you need access to data, tools, and expertise. These labs will be the temples where you'll spend the next 4 - 5 years. You don't do a Ph.D. in thin air. It needs funding and resources. These labs can produce at least 50 Ph.Ds in the next 5 years. Now you figure it out.
In a tech-driven world if digital forensics is not "something in the domain of law", then it is better to not call yourself a law aspirant/law student/practicing lawyer/law faculty or anyone associated with the discipline of law.
Saying this on an NLU platform will only get upvotes, nothing more. There's a big world out there that feels and sees otherwise. Good luck in your la-la-land.
Hon’ble Union Home Minister and Minister of Cooperation, Shri Amit Shah as a Chief Guest will inaugurate the Centre of Excellence in Digital Forensics at National Forensic Sciences University (NFSU) on 23rd January 2024. https://www.linkedin.com/posts/nfsu_allindiacriminologyconference-internationalconference-activity-7154512587827646464-otYU?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop This comes after NFSU and the Directorate General of GST Intelligence (DGGI) inaugurated India's first digital forensic laboratory in Gandhinagar on 8th January 2024. The next two labs will come up in Delhi and Chennai by March 2024 and the last two will be in Mumbai and Kolkata by June 2024.
Here's more sad news. Today an 18-year-old collapsed and died at a coaching center in Indore while attending classes. This is caught on video. Coaching centers are killer centers.
NFSU and the Directorate General of GST Intelligence (DGGI) have inaugurated India's first digital forensic laboratory in Gandhinagar on 8th January 2024. The next two labs will come up in Delhi and Chennai by March 2024 and the last two will be in Mumbai and Kolkata by June 2024. These five labs with a funding of ₹16 crores will play a key role in tackling financial crimes through advanced digital forensics and cyber security practices. This is a remarkable feat by NFSU and will translate into exceptional opportunities for the faculty, researchers, and students. NFSU is truly thriving and is part of the national narrative in the larger scheme of things. It has a seat at the high table.
Sorry, I accidentally posted my incomplete response.
The first batch will move into the third year by the time the new academic year starts in July 2024. However, placements in other schools are very good, for which you may check out the placements page on the university website. For the current batches, the internships are good. The prospective recruiting organizations already know of NFSU.
NFSU is a national university, with the status of an Institution of National Importance (INI). This ensures that there is enough funding, which enables the university to keep the fees low. Being a national university there are no domicile reservations, and it is 100% AIQ (All India Quota) seats.
The BBA-LLB (Hons.) is offered in the Delhi campus, so it comes with all the advantages of Delhi. Faculty, internships, guest sessions, courts, and the entire ecosystem.
For the BBA-LLB (Hons.), the focus area will be corporate forensics (corporate governance, financial forensics, and fraud investigation). With the new criminal laws, the criticality of forensics to legal education cannot be overstated. NFSU is a contributor to and a direct beneficiary of the new laws.
NFSU has a niche that is important to India and is primarily a PG and research university with a few integrated UG programs. NFSU does not offer stand-alone UG programs. In the time to come, that niche (of NFSU) will rub off on your CV as well.
The fee is nominal (₹6.5 lacs for the entire duration of 5 years). The ROI will be very good and most people at this level of fee can do without an educational loan. It gives you a lot more freedom to make your career choices. This is possible because NFSU is very well funded. It has the attention of the central government and receives lots of research and consultancy funding as well.
Batch size is small [40 for BBA-LLB (Hons.)]. This ensures that all students receive adequate attention and opportunities to participate in all activities, with a locational advantage.
NFSU is a PM-led Council of Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR) member. It also is the only educational institution in the country whose reports are accepted as evidence in the courts of law. Only NFSU has been given this privilege.
NFSU is a multi-disciplinary multi-campus university (not a stand-alone law school). As a law student, you will have the opportunity to interact with students and faculty of other schools and departments thereby broadening your exposure and perspective.
This platform is more tuned towards state NLUs. Hence expect downvotes and sarcastic comments in response to my input. As a rough analogy look at NFSU as a new IIT or a new AIIMS, but in this case in a very good location like Delhi.
The first batch will be moving into the third year by the time the new academic year starts in July 2024. However, seeing the placements from other schools this will not be an issue as organizations already know of NFSU. Check out the placement page on the university website.
The other factors:
1. This is a national university, already with the status of an Institute of National Importance (INI). 2. BBA-LLB (Hons.) runs in the Delhi campus, so the locational advantage is₹ there. 3. The total fees for the entire five years is
You have assumed that IIT KGP is falsifying data. That in itself is a serious allegation you make just to prove your point. That's a new low and the onus is on you to prove it. As you say, if falsifying data is so rampant in the NIRF, state NLUs can also do the same. So in reality their scores must be even lower than the dismal ones currently shown.
Once you base your entire argument on IIT KGP falsifying data, this is a dead discussion. To assume that an institution like IIT KGP is falsifying data (year after year) and no one noticed it is laughable. I would rather believe IIT KGP than you. After this whatever you say does not matter. As someone already commented - the bottom line is that IIT KGP SOL scores the highest in research in the law category and that does not change. State NLUs can remain in their la-la-land and state of denial while the sand shifts right under their feet.
Of course, when data goes against your flawed and jaundiced opinions question the methodology. That's a very old trick used by many when drawn into a corner.
1. Here is the published IIT KGP SOL data sheet from NIRF (https://www.nirfindia.org/nirfpdfcdn/2023/pdf/Law/IR-L-U-0573.pdf). It does take a genius to see that this is specific to IIT KGP SOL, not the entire IIT KGP. To assume, that IIT KGP will not realize this is foolish. They know what they are doing.
2. Such differences exist even among engineering departments. For E.g. CS thinks they are superior to civil or mechanical. These are meaningless comparisons done by juveniles.
3. Be patient. Innovation is a new idea in India. Given the fact that SOL's focus is on IP Law, it is bound to take some time to become mainstream. That said, SOL is building a focus area and a niche that state NLUs have failed to do (even the older ones). They are ramping up the intake (for money) and diluting quality.
4. Already covered in bullet 1. All points here are about IIT KGP SOL. Comparing state NLUs with the larger IIT KGP is like comparing an asteroid with the Sun. The point is about comparing research culture, not comparing subjects (like Law with STEM).
5. OK. Noted.
6. The point is no one has stopped state NLUs from tapping into their so-called alumni for grants and funding. But they are unsuccessful in doing so. The fact that Ashoka and Jindal can do this is their credit, and they don't need to be apologetic about it.
7. That is for State NLUs to decide and tread carefully. At this point, they are being careless and adding new disciplines rampantly.
Bottomline: When state NLUs are plagued by inefficient administration, erratic funding, state government indifference, a massive increase in intake, lack of academic leadership, and domicile reservation, among many other things - where is the time to focus on research?
First, CLAT itself is unpredictable, and from 2025 onwards (i.e. CLAT 2025 held in Dec 2024) will be multi-lingual. This changes the entire competition dynamics. Second, God forbid, if you are not well on the day of the exam or there is some other emergency (these are unpredictable).
Obviously, the state NLU fanboys and girls are stunned by this ranking. Here are my responses and reactions:
First, the scores above are specifically for IIT KGP SOL (not the larger IIT KGP). IIT KGP SOL is ranked in the law category of NIRF. Hence it is clear that some shoot arrows in the dark without understanding.
Second, if IIT KGP SOL benefits from the larger IIT KGP ecosystem that's exactly the point, this is why state NLUs as stand-alone entities are permanently doomed to mediocrity. All top law schools in the world are part of larger universities for a reason.
Third, IIT KGP SOL is less known. Popularity and excellence are two different things. The NLU fanboys are just ignorant.
Fourth, the state NLUs like WBNUJS, GNLU, NLUD, and NALSAR are in the pits when it comes to research. They are purely UG teaching entities, with virtually nothing to call research. And yes, for the NLUD fanboys, AILET does not make any difference. It is irrelevant.
Fifth, research is critical for any higher education institution to build and sustain excellence. There is a reason why IISc is so well respected. While IITs may be more popular, it is IISc that stands above and beyond any IIT when it comes to research. IISc ranked No. 1 in the world on research.
Sixth, state NLUs have a very long way to go - if at all. Being stand-alone state universities they are burdened with huge obstacles. Their funding is so minimal/erratic. They are UG teaching institutes, so they continue their mediocrity or below. Even Ashoka University can bring in more funding and grants, but state NLUs cannot.
Seventh, UGC has instructed that by 2030 there will be no single discipline universities in the country. To be classified as a "university", every HEI must have at least five disciplines. Therefore, expect state NLUs to add new disciplines (non-law) in the next few years. We can already see the transition in progress - NLS adding public policy, WBNUJS adding forensic science, NLIU with cybersecurity, and NALSAR having management. More dilution will take place.
Bottomline - state universities cannot and should not even try to compare and compete with national universities. They'll come out battered and bruised like the NLUs. It is better to be in a 5-year-old national university than in a 50-year-old state university.
There have been many queries about pursuing a Ph.D. in Law in India. Here's some data:
According to the NIRF 2023, here are the law schools ranked for research:
IIT KGP SOL 80.11
NLSIU 71.85
WBNUJS 42.71 NLUD 38.42 GNLU 38.16 NALSAR 36.11
IIT KGP already outranks NLSIU by a clear margin. Pursue a Ph.D. in any of either WBNUJS, NLUD, GNLU, or NALSAR at your own risk. In addition, IIT KGP SOL is part of a larger IIT KGP ecosystem that enables interaction with other schools/departments/disciplines making possible some exciting research problems (when compared to state NLUs that are stand-alone law schools with a very limited perspective). All top law schools in the world are part of a larger university for a reason.
A Team from SCSDF, NFSU grabbed the winning prize in Smart India Hackathon -2023 Software Edition (a nationwide initiative, offering students a platform to address pressing issues faced by various Government Ministries and Departments, industries, and other organizations – aligned with the Prime Minister’s vision) organized by Ministry of Education.
NFSU is also in the Council of Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR) headed by the PM. Its reports are acceptable (as evidence) in a court of law, the only educational institute in the country to have the privilege. It is also a designated examiner of digital evidence and a 5G Use Case lab. The dots are connecting nicely, each amplifying the impact of the other and raising the entire ecosystem.
Forensic investigation becomes mandatory for all criminal cases with a punishment of 7 years or more. This will integrate forensic investigation with the justice system, creating a demand for 10000 trained forensic and legal experts every year for the next 7 - 9 years. Coupled with the recent news that India is all set to establish a national cybersecurity agency, this is great news for NFSU and its graduates.
This explains why state NLUs are lining up to sign MOUs with NFSU, and starting to offer courses covering forensic science (e.g., WBNUJS' School of Forensic Science and the new BSc-LLB and MSc programs). Others include NLUD, HPNLU, MNLUM, and MNLUA's MA in Law and Forensic Science. NFSU is the bellwether.
Ha, ha......see the fear and jealousy NFSU instills. Trying to wish way NFSU is both futile and insanely foolish. NFSU is a reality - a well-funded national university with a clear mission and value proposition thriving, and growing in impact, influence, and visibility.
Download the report....https://nhrc.nic.in/sites/default/files/Fotrensic_Sc_HR_Book_2024_0.pdf
Enjoy, and utilize this to trigger new ideas for research and application.
Secondly, I wonder why several NLUs have research centers and/or departments on forensic science (NUJS, NLUD, MNLU, etc.) and a dozen have signed MOUs with NFSU. Almost every NLU teaches at least one course/subject on forensic science. All these must be really crazy people.
Thirdly, it would be good to know if there's any NLU that teaches fashion design or hotel management in their law curriculum.
So get off your high horse, and just observe this thread quietly. You don't have the mental faculty to understand why NFSU is discussed here.
Also, NFSU itself does not need endorsement on this platform.
As far as faculty are concerned, there are good faculty already and the university is in the process of hiring 4 Full Professors and 4 Associate & Assistant Professors, just in the School of Law. In a location like Delhi, attracting good faculty with salary scales of 7th CPC should not be an issue.
https://beta.nfsu.ac.in/data/pdfs/career/NFSU_Teaching_01_2024.pdf
Good luck with your "friend's daughter".
Total Valid Applicants: 622
Female-Male Applicant Ratio: 60:40
Applicants from BIMARU States: 80%
Overall Acceptance Rate: 9.5%
(General) Acceptance Rate: 5.5%
(EWS) Acceptance Rate: 13.3%
(SC) Acceptance Rate: 33.3%
(OBC-NCL) Acceptance Rate: 17.5%
Source: https://www.rpnlup.ac.in/merit-list-b-a-ll-b-hons-programme-for-the-academic-year-2024-25/
DSLSA in collaboration with the National Forensic Science University, Department of Law, Forensic Justice & Policy Studies set up a Legal Services Clinic in the premises of the National Forensic Science University, Delhi Campus.
Hon’ble Mr. Justice Manmohan, Judge, Acting Chief Justice, High Court of Delhi & Executive Chairperson, DSLSA graced the occasion and inaugurated the Legal Services Clinic in the august presence of Hon’ble Mr. Justice Girish Kathpalia, Judge, High Court of Delhi, Sh. Mukesh Kumar Gupta, Ld. Member Secretary, DSLSA, Ld. Secretaries of DSLSA/DLSAs, Prof. (Dr.) Purvi Pokhariyal, Campus Director, NFSU Delhi Campus, and other eminent personalities.
A Legal Services Information Board depicting the information about the availability of free legal aid and the categories entitled thereof was also inaugurated.
KPMG is the partner providing expertise in digital forensics. This deal shows the potential of digital forensics, and more will come. NFSU will be a direct beneficiary of such initiatives.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C4ib2PyvN28/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
This CoE provides ideas and opportunities to pursue advanced research, including those aspiring for Ph.D.
For others - NFSU Law School has not increased its 2024-29 cohort tuition fees. It continues to be ₹65,000 per semester (as it was for the previous 2023-28 cohort). Moreover, after joining, the fee remains the same for the entire five years.
NFSU's Cybersecurity COE organizes a boot camp on "Cyber Crime Investigation" for LLM students. This circles back to the earlier discussion titled "AI, cyberlaw and digital Law' (https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/333609-llm-in-criminal-law#comment-333770).
You can do your research, but to get started....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=988RRcQr5xc.
CyberPeace and NFSU get into a strategic partnership to pursue practical research in the area of cyber security, cyber crimes, AI, machine learning, and digital forensics.
https://www.financialexpress.com/jobs-career/education-cyberpeace-collaborates-with-national-forensic-and-sciences-university-goa-for-advancements-in-cybersecurity-3385544/
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/nfsu_nfsu-mou-digitalforensiclaboratory-activity-7159060925088436224-VWGR?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop.
This is the second such initiative after the Directorate General of GST Intelligence (DGGI) set up five labs in Gandhinagar, Delhi, Mumbai, Chennai, and Kolkata with a funding of ₹16 crores.
https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=1994273
If you "genuinely" want to do a Ph.D., then you must be knowing that you need access to data, tools, and expertise. These labs will be the temples where you'll spend the next 4 - 5 years. You don't do a Ph.D. in thin air. It needs funding and resources. These labs can produce at least 50 Ph.Ds in the next 5 years. Now you figure it out.
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/nfsu_allindiacriminologyconference-internationalconference-activity-7154512587827646464-otYU?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop This comes after NFSU and the Directorate General of GST Intelligence (DGGI) inaugurated India's first digital forensic laboratory in Gandhinagar on 8th January 2024. The next two labs will come up in Delhi and Chennai by March 2024 and the last two will be in Mumbai and Kolkata by June 2024.
https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/322321-nfsu-dggi-inaugurate-indias-first-digital-forensic-laboratory
NFSU rocks!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lm5ZyOdIo0
https://www.telegraphindia.com/india/no-intake-of-students-below-16-years-no-misleading-promises-ministry-of-education-guidelines-for-coaching-centres/cid/1994630
This will have a far-reaching impact on JEE, NEET, and CLAT coaching centers.
https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=1994273
The first batch will move into the third year by the time the new academic year starts in July 2024. However, placements in other schools are very good, for which you may check out the placements page on the university website. For the current batches, the internships are good. The prospective recruiting organizations already know of NFSU.
NFSU is a national university, with the status of an Institution of National Importance (INI). This ensures that there is enough funding, which enables the university to keep the fees low. Being a national university there are no domicile reservations, and it is 100% AIQ (All India Quota) seats.
The BBA-LLB (Hons.) is offered in the Delhi campus, so it comes with all the advantages of Delhi. Faculty, internships, guest sessions, courts, and the entire ecosystem.
For the BBA-LLB (Hons.), the focus area will be corporate forensics (corporate governance, financial forensics, and fraud investigation). With the new criminal laws, the criticality of forensics to legal education cannot be overstated. NFSU is a contributor to and a direct beneficiary of the new laws.
NFSU has a niche that is important to India and is primarily a PG and research university with a few integrated UG programs. NFSU does not offer stand-alone UG programs. In the time to come, that niche (of NFSU) will rub off on your CV as well.
The fee is nominal (₹6.5 lacs for the entire duration of 5 years). The ROI will be very good and most people at this level of fee can do without an educational loan. It gives you a lot more freedom to make your career choices. This is possible because NFSU is very well funded. It has the attention of the central government and receives lots of research and consultancy funding as well.
Batch size is small [40 for BBA-LLB (Hons.)]. This ensures that all students receive adequate attention and opportunities to participate in all activities, with a locational advantage.
NFSU is a PM-led Council of Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR) member. It also is the only educational institution in the country whose reports are accepted as evidence in the courts of law. Only NFSU has been given this privilege.
NFSU is a multi-disciplinary multi-campus university (not a stand-alone law school). As a law student, you will have the opportunity to interact with students and faculty of other schools and departments thereby broadening your exposure and perspective.
This platform is more tuned towards state NLUs. Hence expect downvotes and sarcastic comments in response to my input. As a rough analogy look at NFSU as a new IIT or a new AIIMS, but in this case in a very good location like Delhi.
The other factors:
1. This is a national university, already with the status of an Institute of National Importance (INI).
2. BBA-LLB (Hons.) runs in the Delhi campus, so the locational advantage is₹ there.
3. The total fees for the entire five years is
Once you base your entire argument on IIT KGP falsifying data, this is a dead discussion. To assume that an institution like IIT KGP is falsifying data (year after year) and no one noticed it is laughable. I would rather believe IIT KGP than you. After this whatever you say does not matter. As someone already commented - the bottom line is that IIT KGP SOL scores the highest in research in the law category and that does not change. State NLUs can remain in their la-la-land and state of denial while the sand shifts right under their feet.
2. Such differences exist even among engineering departments. For E.g. CS thinks they are superior to civil or mechanical. These are meaningless comparisons done by juveniles.
3. Be patient. Innovation is a new idea in India. Given the fact that SOL's focus is on IP Law, it is bound to take some time to become mainstream. That said, SOL is building a focus area and a niche that state NLUs have failed to do (even the older ones). They are ramping up the intake (for money) and diluting quality.
4. Already covered in bullet 1. All points here are about IIT KGP SOL. Comparing state NLUs with the larger IIT KGP is like comparing an asteroid with the Sun. The point is about comparing research culture, not comparing subjects (like Law with STEM).
5. OK. Noted.
6. The point is no one has stopped state NLUs from tapping into their so-called alumni for grants and funding. But they are unsuccessful in doing so. The fact that Ashoka and Jindal can do this is their credit, and they don't need to be apologetic about it.
7. That is for State NLUs to decide and tread carefully. At this point, they are being careless and adding new disciplines rampantly.
Bottomline: When state NLUs are plagued by inefficient administration, erratic funding, state government indifference, a massive increase in intake, lack of academic leadership, and domicile reservation, among many other things - where is the time to focus on research?
First, CLAT itself is unpredictable, and from 2025 onwards (i.e. CLAT 2025 held in Dec 2024) will be multi-lingual. This changes the entire competition dynamics. Second, God forbid, if you are not well on the day of the exam or there is some other emergency (these are unpredictable).
First, the scores above are specifically for IIT KGP SOL (not the larger IIT KGP). IIT KGP SOL is ranked in the law category of NIRF. Hence it is clear that some shoot arrows in the dark without understanding.
Second, if IIT KGP SOL benefits from the larger IIT KGP ecosystem that's exactly the point, this is why state NLUs as stand-alone entities are permanently doomed to mediocrity. All top law schools in the world are part of larger universities for a reason.
Third, IIT KGP SOL is less known. Popularity and excellence are two different things. The NLU fanboys are just ignorant.
Fourth, the state NLUs like WBNUJS, GNLU, NLUD, and NALSAR are in the pits when it comes to research. They are purely UG teaching entities, with virtually nothing to call research. And yes, for the NLUD fanboys, AILET does not make any difference. It is irrelevant.
Fifth, research is critical for any higher education institution to build and sustain excellence. There is a reason why IISc is so well respected. While IITs may be more popular, it is IISc that stands above and beyond any IIT when it comes to research. IISc ranked No. 1 in the world on research.
Sixth, state NLUs have a very long way to go - if at all. Being stand-alone state universities they are burdened with huge obstacles. Their funding is so minimal/erratic. They are UG teaching institutes, so they continue their mediocrity or below. Even Ashoka University can bring in more funding and grants, but state NLUs cannot.
Seventh, UGC has instructed that by 2030 there will be no single discipline universities in the country. To be classified as a "university", every HEI must have at least five disciplines. Therefore, expect state NLUs to add new disciplines (non-law) in the next few years. We can already see the transition in progress - NLS adding public policy, WBNUJS adding forensic science, NLIU with cybersecurity, and NALSAR having management. More dilution will take place.
Bottomline - state universities cannot and should not even try to compare and compete with national universities. They'll come out battered and bruised like the NLUs. It is better to be in a 5-year-old national university than in a 50-year-old state university.
According to the NIRF 2023, here are the law schools ranked for research:
IIT KGP SOL 80.11
NLSIU 71.85
WBNUJS 42.71
NLUD 38.42
GNLU 38.16
NALSAR 36.11
IIT KGP already outranks NLSIU by a clear margin. Pursue a Ph.D. in any of either WBNUJS, NLUD, GNLU, or NALSAR at your own risk. In addition, IIT KGP SOL is part of a larger IIT KGP ecosystem that enables interaction with other schools/departments/disciplines making possible some exciting research problems (when compared to state NLUs that are stand-alone law schools with a very limited perspective). All top law schools in the world are part of a larger university for a reason.
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/nfsu_nfsu-mha-sih2023-activity-7143624255564427264-gJM5?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop
This explains why state NLUs are lining up to sign MOUs with NFSU, and starting to offer courses covering forensic science (e.g., WBNUJS' School of Forensic Science and the new BSc-LLB and MSc programs). Others include NLUD, HPNLU, MNLUM, and MNLUA's MA in Law and Forensic Science. NFSU is the bellwether.
From CLAT 2025 onwards, highly likely this change will be brought in.