Good this is being said. When people post on

LI pointing to the stray dog menace on campuses, they immediately get attacked by the liberal dog-lover faction of students. As Chetan Bhagat’s article notes, a millionaire businessman recently died after being chased by stray dogs and lakhs die from rabies in India. As he says, we can’t become a superpower with so many stray dogs on the streets.

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/from-best-friend-to-foe-canine-terror-cant-continue-unchecked/articleshow/105865405.cms

Hello LI Community.

I am a 2023 Undergrad in English Honours from a local rural college in West Bengal.

As of December 2023, I am 21.

I very interested in law and want to pursue t.

I belong to a economically poor family. My family income is less than 1 lac per annum.

So I have few queries regarding law school admissions and law career in general.

I want to prep for law school entrance exams such as CLAT, AILET, NLSAT, CUET PG & UG,HCET Law (3Y & 5 Y) etc for admission into 5 Years of LLB in 2025-26 and for admission into 3 Years in 2024-25.

1) So if I get into a top law school, will I be able to 20-25 lacs of Education LOAN for the entire program without any collateral?

2) Do top NLus and other top law schools give scholarships and financial aid to economically poor students?

3) Regarding the career, for 5 Years Course, I will graduate by 27-28 and for 3 Years Course, I will graduate by 25-26. So will I be facing any problem due to this 3-5 years of seniority as compared the average people graduating in 22-23 age.

Want genuine answers only.

Share your experiences regarding this money (fees) and time (age) issue.

They have a fetish for toppers. ICUL and Anagram both came to NLS. ICUL threw 2 offers to the absolute toppers, and both got rejected. Anagram was invited on the 2nd day and till then all the toppers had already accepted job offers so they did not offer a single job after taking the interviews!

Staffing happens from top down in law firms. If the partner is leaving with his team, the first priority would be to hire a partner and then staff the team from top down basis the availability of PAs/SAs.

However, there could be a spill over effect in the sense that the mandates of the departing partner maybe handed over to some other partner, who already has a team in place, and because of the added burden on the team, the Partner could choose to hire an A0.

(1) This is practice area specific but a cursory reading of relevant websites such as SEBI, IBBI, MCA and the likes will always have some development in a day or two: both affecting transactions as well as enforcement/disputes.

(2) A basic idea of the recent change (in the development) is enough. Further, think the development through in terms of its background, previous position, implications (both positive as well as negative) and concluding remarks (which will be your suggestions centric to the issue at hand).

Its not too difficult once you actually have 2-3 internships in your belt (regardless of it being firms or chambers) since your acumen, writing style and conceptual clarity shall be put to test for the reputed blogs; which is kind of developed during internships. You can start with CBCL, IRCCL or CBFL and then gradually upgrade to IndiaCorp, Taxmann and the likes.

Trust me having polish in your writing makes a huge difference when you go to law firms where none of your glory mooting days will help. Lastly, lot of us GC folks are told to keep abreast with Taxmann and IndiaCorpLaw updates every now and then so yeah - target your pieces accordingly.

Hope this helps. Best of luck!

RL usually piggy backs on the other investors. Wouldn’t say a word until the lead investor would also ask for something, and then just say the three magical words “humein bhi chahiye ( we also want parity). People who have worked with RL, observe one thing. Have they ever brought up a point during negotiations which no one else has. I can bet my life, the answer would be no.

Hello LI Community.

I am a 2023 Undergrad in English Honours from a local rural college in West Bengal. I am very much interested in law and want to pursue it.

As of now, I turned 21 this December.

I have two options -

1) Prepare for 3 Years of LLB Entrance Exams such as CUET PG, MHCET Law (3Y), and NLSAT for 2024/25 admissions.

2) Prepare for CLAT, AILET, MHCET Law (5Y) for 2025/26 admissions.

I belong to an economically poor family. My family income is less than 1 lac per annum. I belong to the NCL-OBC category.

I have a few queries -

1) So if get into a top college, will I be able to get an Education LOAN of 20-25 lacs for NLUs?

2) Do top NLUs and other top Law Schools give scholarships and financial aid to people who belong to economically and socially backward classes?

3) In the case of 3 Years LLB, I will graduate by 25-26 of age, and in the case of 5 Years LLB, I will graduate by 27-28 years of age. Will these 3-5 years gap as compared to the average age of both the programs affect my career prospects after law school?

Please comment genuine answers only.

Would like to hear from students of NLUs and other top Law Schools who have gotten full-fee loans, scholarships, and financial aid.

Thanks in advance.

Have you curtailed your travel from your work/college city to your hometown? Have you tried Vande Bharat trains instead? It’s really shameful how expensive air travel has become. Indigo gives limited leg space and no meals, yet they charge more than Vistara many times!

Of course, foreign travel too has become very expensive. We are basically paying double compared with pre-COVID prices.

CBFL publishes those blogs which have been rejected by IndiaCorp but to answer your question, it has much to do with the first mover advantage of the writer(s) & less to do with one's knowledge of a particular field of law. I think the sweet spot for getting published is to first understand the style of writing which takes place across pieces in the blog you wish to target; and then making an earnest effort to pen down something with substance centric to the development (within 2-3 days of it being into force).

drafting a silly offer document where the "Risk Factors" is dotted by an international counsel gives a junior Indian lawyer no clue about the real picture of financial markets whatsoever. I think private equity (not M&A) and leveraged debt finance (i.e. high yield debt) gives a dynamic understanding of how market gaps are identified, how fund flow is executed, how debt finance works during down markets and how public offerings can be stratagized at the right time for the right threshold. Get a CFA and make your life happier man; being a lawyer at the biggest of the firms is limited only to the 500 pager review/drafting of documents with non existent requirement of a financial bend of mind on a daily basis. Start with the CFA prep, work as an analyst at a mid sized IB/boutique IB and get an MBA after a few years. Best of luck!

Let’s state the obvious: this has less to do with the Israel-Palestine issue and more to do with a broader culture war that has been brewing for years. Conservatives see universities as breeding grounds for woke far-left thought. Their main grouse is against humanities and social science departments. Strong free speech guarantees meant that conservatives were powerless all these years, but the Israel-Palestine issue has given them a golden opportunity, as certain left-wing students and professors overplayed their hand and supported Hamas.

We are seeing something very similar in India. The controversy involving Sameena Dalwai at Jindal was an example of the right sending a warning.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/09/us/university-of-pennsylvania-president-resigns.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67662871.amp

His (and his clients) tend to have an extreme POV. It can seem romantic for a minute, but there's more harm done than good when one sits on a high-ground and lashes out at others without due regard and rationality.

That's not my idea of justice (anymore). In hindsight, it now makes me uncomfortable.

If training under him, keep an open mind.

if you're talking about value, it depends on which prof. you're assisting. usually, most RAships are absolute bs. if you find a great professor to work with, then it's a good way to learn. if you're speaking of RAships in the "it will look good on my cv" sense, don't do it. RAships as a concept outside of India are mostly for grad students to help build credibility for academia. unless you're looking for guidance about how to conduct research and build a good regime, mostly RAships not worth it. unless you're adamant on working with a particular professor, don't ra. best work on your own research otherwise.

It's good - NIRF-ranking wise, plus students get a lot of opportunities.

- Beyond that, crowd is trash - full of snobs; very superficial people.

- Marking system is skewed. You'll see highly incompetent people scoring better GPAs. People (in their 3rd/4th year) who don't even know the basics of law (such as the hierarchy of Indian courts or the stages of a trial or basic constitutional provisions like Article 13) have an 8-8.5 CGPA. Also, you won't believe the extents to which people go to get marks. - Special treatment is given to students whose parents are judges/well-established advocates.

Not me but I know a 13 PQE. Have seen his fee book while interning. 1.5-2cr since last couple of years. From talking with him, huge struggle for first few years, didn't cross 10l till 5 years PQE. But now really doing well - while at the same time taking random long breaks of 3-4 months every year for the last several years. Pays juniors 50k monthly but keeps telling people to not litigate. Thorough whacko. But absolutely brilliant so keeps getting briefs despite being erratic in terms of availability.

Though it may feel terrible at the moment, it’s not the end of the world or your career. Keep at it and find something you like doing. You may not see it now but in the long run, hopefully this is just a temporary blip.

Please do seek professional help if you’re struggling with this mentally. Anonymous LI commenters aren’t really going to help.

I see second and third year students writing on blogs like cbflnludelhi. But I am sure that they have not studied the subject in depth or might not even know much about the Act apart from few sections here and there.

So 2 questions:-

(1) How to find topics to write about

(2) How do these people without knowing whole subject publish these blogs

Delhi, 5.5 years PQE

Left a Tier 1 law firm in 2018 to move a litigation chamber. Got paid 20K for the first 6 months which increased to 30K after 6 months. Left after 1.5 years to join another chamber where I got paid 40K which increased to 50K after 1 years. In 2021, joined a senior advocate, got paid 80K for the first 5 months. Thereafter, it was increased to 1.3L and has remained the same since then.

For the past 2-3 months, god has been kind and I have been getting some independent drafting work from which I earn an additional 50K to 1L per month.

The journey has not been easy as have to work hard to deliver results. My bosses have mostly been very good and supportive but I have seen people come and go so not that it was easy to impress bosses without doing good work.

I still have some hesitation in appearing before Courts as have not gotten many opportunities to argue. There is a lot of uncertainty but trying my best to work hard and achieve something. Having supportive parents and partner has helped.

No. Funds is only related to formation of funds, that too mostly private funds. It has no connection or overlap with financial markets. As I said, no matter which team you choose you'll be always doing documentation and legal work only. Even if you join a investment bank like Morgan Stanley in a legal role you won't get better at finance. Law is law.

If you want a career in finance, transition. Think about a cfa /mba and transition to finance.

“Much of the polarisation which we see today across the globalised world, the polarisation between the right, left and the centre, the polarisation which we experience across the world, and India is no exception, is also marked by the growth of social media, the sense of intolerance among communities, the short attention spans which the younger generation has," Justice Chandrachud said.

https://www.barandbench.com/news/polarisation-right-left-centre-social-media-cji-dy-chandrachud

If you are genuinely asking this question and not trolling, these are the reasons,

- Earning curve is really good in litigation, even though you start from law. Although not necessary for every litigator but then same is the case with a corp lawyer (especially one not in a tier one). And the efforts you put in are the same.

- Some people don't have very easy access to these firms, and the ones they do have access to pay very little with no growth opportunities.

- Some people would rather work for themselves from the beginning that grinding for a partner.

Had applied long back for Jan (September I think)never got a reply, assumed they are full. Maybe a place opened up. I still have a interview to crack, or I go internship less in Jan, and this year is an important one for me. Don't worry bro, things will work out for you too. Grind hard!

- Bored.lurker (I forgot my password - sigh)

I have a friend of mine working in their tax vertical as a lawyer. Earns around 40-50K maybe.

But from what I know, you need some reference to be hired as a fresher in Adani.

Take whatever I say with a pinch of salt because I am not an insider, have never worked at Adani.

Hey fellow law students, law professionals, partners and the members of the bar.

It has often happened to me, in a dozen interviews that I have been asked technical questions and have failed to answer them owing to severe nervousness, getting blanked or simply having not learnt the subject or prepared for it.

Can all of us come and create a repository of interviewers favorite technical questions so that we can all get PPOs, Internships, easily. This has happened to me in corporate law interviews especially when I was in my first two years. In my law school corp law is taught in the fourth year, so for any other person out there who for whatever reason needs some quick interview prep or confidence can come here and atleast be prepared for the most favorite ones.

Even googly questions are welcome, questions which you never expected, we can share anecdotes as well. Let us use this reach of Legally India to help the upcoming batches...and also ourselves. You need not write an answer to those questions, just the questions themselves would do. Or, whatever you prefer. We can write down what questions we were asked in the interview. There is no need to mention your firm, your year, your law school. Just maybe the position you are interning for and the questions asked.

Lets make interview preparation a bit easier and convenient.

8 crores won't be enough in 10 years. Today, just about. 8 can easily grow to 15 in 10 years ,with some conservative investing.

If you have kids, that's a different variable.

If you're under 30, don't worry about money. That will come. Apply to a good club, and your 55 year old self will thank your 30 year old self every day.

That’s a shit argument even my HR head gave in my exit interview. If that’s the case, you hire more people so that work is distributed and juniors are not overburdened. Business is growing and obviously they are getting more clients and more money than in 2014. But They want to hire less. It’s not that only the number of kids are growing, the number of M&A deals happening in 2022 vs 2014 have also changed. So either give your junior proportionate hike or hire more so that they at least have a better work life

Asides top nlus and sls pune, I dont't think peeps from 2023 batch the country over have been able to secure any goods jobs , even in tier 2 firms. Firms would rather prefer giving a paralegalship contract to a 4th or final year kid than give job to a passout from that college. Let thant sink in.......

There are no last minute tips for AILET. Be ready for random surprises. The exam’s questions are usually innovative but they can derail you at any possible second. So keep calm and attempt as much as possible. You can expect a low cut-off (but AILET can really come easy this year, so don’t have any pre-conceived notions as such). All the best!

Sadly I agree with with what MA@L@L is saying. And that’s the reason a lot of people from tier 1 are moving out at A0-A1 level itself. Hearing so many of my juniors drop out at that level at least in my firm (tier 1). This profession will also become like engineers in times to come with so many kids writing CLAT.

Albeit repetitive opening this masterpiece again

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