It’s sheer resilience and willingness to trade time for money that will keep you in this for the long term.

Interest has nothing to do with, the ones who look like theyre having a good time are mostly sociopathic nerds who enjoy bullying people and acting fancy doing a bullshit nonsense job.

This is 100% true for corporate law teams, not sure about others.

I wouldn't recommend pursuing a 3-year LLB program if you already have a graduate degree or are pursuing a postgraduate degree, as most Tier 1 employers prefer candidates with a 5-year graduate degree. A 3-year LLB might not significantly enhance your career prospects unless it's from a highly reputed institution. Unfortunately, the only institute considered very prestigious by Tier 1 firms is NLS, and their admission process is highly competitive.

If you're currently completing your graduation or about to start it, preparing for entrance exams for a 5-year BA LLB program (from a Tier 1 NLU/JGLS) could be a better option. However, since you mentioned that you're not passionate about law, consider whether spending five years at a Tier 1 NLU/JGLS is the right choice. Landing a Tier 1 job is challenging unless you graduate from these top institutes, requiring extreme dedication and effort. Reflect deeply on whether you are willing to invest so much energy into a subject you are not passionate about. Take time to consider these questions carefully.

90% of the times we expect interns to be well dressed and well spoken and able to do basic clerical work like writing emails and researching and likes. Now say 20% of total interns fall under the above criteria (because let's be honest it won't make much difference if X knows 20% of work and Y knows 25% or work, at interns and A0 level the work you're made to do is basic mundane which nobody else wants to do) then we check for a reference. Id you're decent and have a reference in your favour then it's a PPO most of the times. Interns from Tier 1 NLUs with great batch ranks get absorbed even without a reference but that's an exception.

For Tier 2 NLUs and SLS/ Jindal there are teams where partners want to pick interns from their college and these teams have dedicated slots for A0 from these colleges.

Other than this if your friend from Christ or SLS Nagpur or Nirma gets a Tier 1 PPO it's almost a reference case (not that they are not smart but as things stand).

Tier 2 PPOs are different Universe and very easy till your final semester.

Yes. I have seen many people who do it only for the money work in high intensity high billing areas. They do well, they make great money, they may not be happy or satisfied 100% of the time but that is anyway rare for any job. I'd say the most important quality to survive for long and to get to where the money is good is to ensure you have no bad habits (smoking, controlled drinking) and are able to keep physically and mentally fit via a strict exercise regime. Being physically and mentally fit and not having vices will make you outlast the competition, many of whom will develop illnesses and fragility within a decade.

The kids are doing what you didn't/ may not have had the balls to do.

Pushing back against ill mannered senior colleagues, unreasonable deadlines, arbitrary decision making, etc. is not entitlement.

More power to these kids. Lesser to you, with your talk of "justifying their retainer". In any reasonable scenario, you can't bleed people of all life just so the lala above you can look better in front of the lala above them.

Join Internship with a generous senior who sees your potential, gives you work and opportunities and pays you while you are interning aswell. Then, work hard and smart, trust yourself and then just tell him your honest responsibilities and show your work skills, and it should do.

The current incumbent's term ends in June 2024. Has a search committee been constituted by the EC yet? If so, what's its composition? Possible applicants for the position? To what extent will the state government try to intervene? What will be the role played by students and SJA in this matter, will they try to push for a decent reputed academic, preferably someone with prior association with NLUs? What will the CJI's nominee in the EC do, seeing how the CJI refused to come down to the university in almost two years despite him being the Chancellor and the convocation of three batches left pending? Let's have some civilised and constructive discussion here.

I'm a third year and have never done a corp internship before. How do I stand out in the same? To working professionals of LI, what do you guys expect in a intern you'd recommend?? Are there any unsaid rules (such as using SCC instead of Manupatra case citations etc.)? Are there any resources or platforms you should know how to use well? Any insider info or personal observations on the sort of interns who get PPOs? Any sort of advice would be greatly appreciated.

He had said that he would be able to bring back all that black money and use it for public good. Even before this election he has claimed to ▮▮▮. Anyone who has got the slightest knowledge of law doesn't say such things in good faith. He keeps saying such things knowing well that most people don't know any better. Keeps accusing others of corruption while welcomes corrupt leaders into his fold. Starts shady scams like electoral bonds and PM Cares. Keeps reducing free market capitalism and competition by making rules different for his cronies. This man and what he represents are cancer for this country.

having watched this space (and waited) for more than two decades, may I suggest that the reason is perhaps not how SILF blocks it but how the supposed beneficiaries do not do anything? You dont lobby, dont organise, dont petititon and yet expect that the person you seem to dislike, yes Modi, will fight your battles for you?

think about it, Modi, despite you not agreeing with him, has done more than anyone else. The rules are ready... so what are you people waiting for?

I'm a 3rd year law student without any legal background. I think I am more interested in litigation than in corporate. The problem is I have taken an education loan of 10lakhs, which my parents have expected would be paid by me after the graduation( which is fine). The problem is wht I have heard is in the first few years you do not earn anything. According to my calculations, I just need a 50k per month and I can manage my education loan and living. Can anyone help how to do that. Like wht steps should I take now to achieve this if I'm certain I want to go in litigation?

The Jindal family has given hundreds of crores to JGLS, but they have also donated to IIMA, ISB and now NLSIU. Nice of them to give to an NLU, given the trollish comments on LI (though, to be fair, they are probably not NLSIU students, because NLSIU students are not so insecure).

this is quite true. the number of people ive met from my field who i can trust are very few, literally 2-3 and it's not like my circle is particularly small. everyone looks at everyone else like a means to an end and substance just becomes another tool to get what you want. i came to law because i wanted to learn about humans and meet more of them and im only been able to do that 2-3 times.

but, not to say there are 0 corners and circles where things don't make sense. it's a shitshow but in between all this you do get to see a lot of good as well. you also see a lot of people pushed to their limits and still doing good things. i like to look at this world like an experiment; as if someone's trying to study what humans would do if pushed in a dog eat dog world and im always surprised how despite such pressures, there's still space for a little bit of human in there.

Full letter and signatories here.

https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1779735316598763647

He was giving an estimate of how much black money exists in India. He did not promise to deposit in every bank account. You can say that Demonetization was a failure which I believe it was, you can say that his estimate was wrong or that he had no backing for making that claim but you can't say that he made a promise to deposit the amount in every citizen's bank account.

They stalled it till the elections, which means nothing moves till June. A new law minister will be appointed, who will take a month or so to settle in. But by then the UK elections will be approaching and the UK government will be more focused on that. So well played, SILF.

But how did they lobby so effectively? It takes a lot of clout to stall an entire FTA with a major world power like the UK! Did they approach Gautam Adani? Or Amit Shah? Or Modi himself?

Thats true!!! Leave a high paying job and join inhouse or mediocre job in Tier III towns and settle for a mediocre life. Whats wrong with this generation! Why cant you handle pressure despite being young? Please be competitive and stick to law firm jobs and you will not regret in future. I am working with law firms for the last 20 years and can tell you that majority (ill advised!) comments on this platform are from the law students who haven't even worked in law firms (let alone the top tier firms).

The irony baffles me: Mumbai would collapse without outside labour, skills and knowledge and yet somehow it is the outsiders who are undesirable in Mumbai. You cannot have your cake and eat it too. If your economy is run on the blood and sweat of non-Mumbaikars, either throw your economy into the water or stop this nonsense.

Typical Mumbaikar attitude. Refuses to accept the fault of his/her own city, and rather choses to blame those who complain, instead of introspecting and analysing the complaint. Take Bollywood out of Bombay, and literally, except for the financial institutions, there's nothing more to the city.

This is not true for CAM. A0s only joined in month of September (so 1.6 lakhs is given proportionally for 7 months of work from September to March) and bonuses amount is not same for all A0s. It heavily depends on ratings and performance. This time, the highest bonus amount for those who got 5/5 rating was 98K.

It'll be hosted in Ahmedabad with Sardar Patel Sports Enclave, EKA Arena Indoor Stadium (venue for Kabaddi WC and league matches) and Narendra Modi Stadium organising most events. For water sports, Sabarmati Riverfront maybe considered.

After WC Final 2023, govt is desperate to conduct Olympics in Gujarat.

I met a student from a reputed NLU with one such card. It looks like this (name changed obviously)

Amit Kumar (he/him)

Student, BA LLB (Hons), NLU XYZ

Phone: .....

Email: ......

LinkedIn: ....

Is it helpful to print such cards and hand them out to people during internships etc?

I grew up watching Shark Tank. Being exposed to such amazing discussions at a young age, I was naturally interested in the startup space. So when I applied for a role in private equity, I thought the lawyers working in PE would also be excited about Startups and Shark Tank.

I couldn’t be more wrong.

You’d think, considering we get the opportunity to work with forward thinking founders, we’d discuss some updates about Startups. Turns out some of my seniors have never watched Shark Tank.

During break, people just talk about normal stuff like where they went to eat, or where their batchmates are currently working. Maybe a passing reference to startups because someone they know works there.

Sure, during work hours, we might discuss about finalising the SPA to send to the investor. But outside work, there is almost no discussion about their business model or the vision the startup founders have.

Is this the same with lawyers in all other PE teams, or am I missing something?

The Dean has a track record of showing support for Zionists, and to be clear anti-Zionism does not equal to anti-Semitism. As a Berkeley Law alum, I've seen a prominent Berkeley Law professor express strong views on the Israel-Palestine issue all over LinkedIn (which I think he has every right to), but he has gone as far as publishing an op-ed suggesting that students at UCB who support Palestine shouldn't even be considered for jobs at law firms (https://www.wsj.com/articles/dont-hire-my-anti-semitic-law-students-protests-colleges-universities-jews-palestine-6ad86ad5?mod=opinion_lead_pos9). The Dean has remained relatively quiet and has even, at times, defended this professor. The Dean has been extremely complicit in silencing the Palestinian voices on campus, which is disappointing given his staunch advocacy for free speech.

I've seen partners who practice multiple close practice areas e.g. doing m&a and pevc both, or doing m&a and data privacy, GC and aviation etc etc.

How do you as an a0 in m&a or pevc learn other practice areas which you want to practice 10-15 years down the line. Do you switch teams after 1-2 years?

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Once he is an Tier 1/ top college, with the right guidance from college seniors and some hard work on his part, he will be able to manage internships. While the guidance will be easier to get, the competition within the college will be high as every firm allocates certain seats per college.

Other lower ranked colleges, the guidance is lacking and the firms don’t allocate any seats/ don’t hire from college. But you can still apply directly to firms if they don’t come to your college.

Either way, it helps to know people within the legal firms as they can push your CV internally to the HR, although sometimes firms do hire candidates basis CV/ some assessment test. The chances of this are lesser.

Yes, have attended both and can safely say that A&O one is quite extensive and there is a massive learning curve. From International Project Finance, to International Debt Finance to Capital Markets in the US, they covered a lot of themes that were perfect, if you are planning to apply to any Vacation Schemes. Choose A&O or try to get in. I think they were planning to discontinue HSF-ILP this year onwards, someone confirm

1,2, and 7 make me want to puke.

It is not the professors job to make your notes. Its your job. infact- thats the job as a student- learn information and organise it.The professor makes their own notes for lecture- theyre under ZERO obligation and its actually bad practice to share ppts, it makes students lazy. Youre only asking this because you want to do well in exams- not because you actually want to learn the law.

2 is completely the opposite of how the socratic method works. I know students like to fancy themselves as judges - because theyre in the audience so they automatically assume theyre consumers. But the way the socratic method works is- you present the facts of the case- you get grilled on what different arguments were- you get asked a series of questions that get you to defend your stance. You are asked to deal with variations on a hypo. The professor is there to guide and ask the right questions. What youre describing is some reality tv audience participation that doesnt engender learning at all. just entertainment.

7. Listening in class is the bare minimum. trying to listen in class is even less. Why do you want some pat on the back for that?

right- but jews had bodies and hair and skin and records kept by germans themselves to prove the holocaust. And it would be a damn stretch to say jews did anything to provoke their slaughter. Hamas on the other hand went on a barbaric carnage, raped women, killed babies, and kidnapped grandmas . And 33k is a number by Hamas run agencies and by all independent accounts it appears that israel is trying to minimise civilian casualties in an urban war where theyre trying to bring hamas to heel, while at the same time theyre being attacked by iran and the hezbollah. Having said that- Any civilian death is horrible and I wish it didnt happen. And I wish Hamas would surrender and return the hostages- who are most likely dead- and accept the ceasefire terms israel has repeatedly offered them.

You will accuse me of propaganda- and I will accuse you of the same. Truth is war involves a lot of propaganda and the truth only really becomes clear many years later.

The idea that individual jews anywhere ( these professors arent even israeli) can be protested anywhere for something they have as little control over as you and I? reverse that logic- would you be okay with jews getting into the homes of palestinians and shouting at them about hamas? I would think that would be pretty awful. Its not what we do in civil society. thats just not how any problems are solved or any truth is attained.

You may think people earn the privilege of knowing the truth or being able to speak it by claiming victimhood. I just dont think thats true.

I get it- you have a lot of empathy for palestinians- You think you should be on the arabs side because brown skin, and you think all jews in israel are white oppressors even if a good chunk of israelis arent white. Youre on insta all the time seeing videos of babies being harmed. You have been on a steady social media diet from one side (cause thats what the algorithm does) that makes you think there is no complexity and everything is clear. And you want to think doing something is better than doing nothing so you want to come to this website and talk about how everyone should go harass jews. Youre so convinced youre on the right side that you dont think its even possible that youre wrong. Consider if being so close minded is a quality you aspire to? be introspective for one second and consider that you might not have the oracle that sees through the fog of war- like any of us dont.

A liberal is just as bad as a RW person.

Get this right.

A liberal is an RW person, but moderate. He/she will turn RW at the slightest inconvenience. A liberal is RW lite.

A liberal is opposed to the left, get this into your thick skulls my dear RWs of LI. If you are a liberal you're an RW my dear liberals of LI.

RW wants to push the window right. A liberal wants the status quo, no matter how right the window is. Liberal will not shift the window left and will resist citing free market for economy and traditions and for social issues. But will extract minor concessions like the right of women to be in Police/Army/CEO/Leadership positions.

They will celebrate such things as a female with power equivalent to a man oppress and exploit. But they will not give a damn about the oppressed woman.

Left really wants to shift the window left.

Liberals are dishonest wussies. You need not worry about them RWs of India.