"there were hardly many aspirants for places beyond NLS, NALSAR and NUJS"

I was part of the entrance exam of a place which would be considered upper tier 2 today, this was the year just before CLAT, we had around 7500 students take the exam. Once we joined CLAT our total income went down by half, although we had many more examinees, but the number of institutions sharing the pie meant the amount per uni went down.

What many do not know there were some institutions which threatened to walk out of CLAT after the first year because the money was paltry in comparison to what was being garnered by individual exams. There was a two tier system proposed, but the lower ranked institution threatened to remove themselves and cooler heads prevailed and the CLAT chugged on.

So, it is very much a fact that NLUD persists with AILET for financial gain. The margin is close is 75%. If you pursue the financial statements of NLUD, which are publicly available, you can easily find it.

The number of students who get assistance at NLUD is listed on NIRF it is no more than all other similarly placed NLUs. I am sure the uni does not absorb the electric bill from AC hostels. But I must say the food at NLUD mess is v good.

It is common to see many students, alumni and even some profs at our top law schools are declaring their pronouns on their CVs, LinkedIn and official university pages and brochures. Most people seem to be straight and use he/him and she/her, but some people are non-binary and using he/they, she/they, they/them. zer/zey etc.

This is of course a great thing to see, but so far it is largely confined to a few elite schools with a tradition of progressivism and inclusiveness towards the LGBTQIA+ community. NLSIU and NALSAR lead the pack. I just wonder if the other law schools will catch up and make this standard protocol? For example, colleges like NLUJ, RMLNLU and CNLU are in states with a long history of patriarchy, conservative politics and homophobia/transphobia. Will there be resistance in those places? And what about non-NLUs? Also, even at NLSIU and NALSAR declaring pronouns is not compulsory, e.g. there is no rule saying that students have to mention it in their CVs or the profs have to mention it in their web pages. How far away are we from that?

"Pay is not high to motivate someone to try luck for state judicial service" bhai ka statement mtlb 1Lakh+/month (w/o perks) salary bahut kam hai wo bhi sarkari naukari mai??? & bro is saying his father was district judge. Now i totally agree thatt your all statements are 100k% correct, no need to give any proof to anyone. Bro, ye wla sasta nasha ka address dena plz.

Age is not a fator, 26 aint that far from where 5yr students would be (3years gap give or take).

If you are completely sure about pursuing a career in corp law, you'll find a break anyhow. Dw about the 3yr vs 5yr bias.

Not denying it, it is 100% there and pretty evident but it is not a good enough reason to scrap a career option complety due to it.

It wont be impossible, it will just be much harder to do internships etc. If it can be done by other, you can do it too.

However, if you're just doing it for the heck of it then its not worth it. Be completly sure about what you want and also depends on what other option/opportunites you have other than a 3yr LLB right now. Be confident if you choose the llb lane, dont let the bias rule you. Talk to seniors or other people in your batch who would have done the same. It is highly unlikely that no one from NLS 3yr law has bagged a tier one job. Again, if its possible, you can do it too.

Making the shift is significantly easier if you have worked for 2-3 years in Capital Markets with leading Indian law firms but lateralling across other practice areas in Singapore may happen if you:

1) Get an LLM for National University of Singapoore (NUS)

2) Have previous work experiences (arbitrations/deals) with law firms based out of Singapore; which was so in my case thereof.

Are there people here who were initially hired as Trainee at law firms but weren't hired, though they liked your work and attitude?
I have a story where the student was initially given an assessment after graduation but was not hired due to no vacancy, this was intimated during the last week of the assessment period. Thereafter, due to the student's work performance, a Traineeship for 6 months was given till there is any vacancy. But the said traineeship was cut short to three months (intimated 20-25 days prior) due to not being able to meet their branch financials. Now, the firm has hired someone else.

Now what should the students like the above case do? I am hearing this from a lot of the students being freshers at law firms. Is this practice really common at law firms ??

I thought this happened only in audit firms.

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Most stooooopidest law ever. BTS single handedly brought Korea on the world map, contributed billions to their economy. Just ridiculous to ask them to do national military service. Not like Korea is fighting any war anyway, so wtf man?

https://www.indiatoday.in/korean-wave/story/all-members-of-bts-to-enlist-in-military-by-the-end-of-this-year-reports-2394740-2023-06-19

I took CLAT 2023 and got allotted RGNUL in the counselling. However, I feel I can get HNLU too in the spot counselling. I'm totally in for it but my family has all sorts of reservations about HNLU. So, my only question is- is there any difference between the two (in terms of placements, infra, faculty, alumni base etc) which makes one hold a significant advantage over the other?

Nope unless there is a chunk of securities regulatory work done on your part; which now again boils down to whether they were contentious or non contentious in nature. Further, fitting under the "Capital Markets" or the "Financial Regulatory/Securities Regulatory" practice area(s) are two completely different ballgames - both of which are incredibly niche and difficult to survive owing to a myriad of reasons. Better to stick to disputes and specialize in arbitrations (sector specific ~ the most lucrative being oil & gas, real estate and allied actionable claims involving valued property).

Good luck and I wish the best for you!

Saw some thread regarding ADHD here, it was wholesome. People were discussing making an anonymous support group for neurodivergent lawyers, so I made one. Neurodivergent lawyers are welcome.

https://t.me/+BV_0GNS5KvlkZmI1

Sad that even a reasonable comment will make the NLUD haters think I'm a troll. And I haven't even spoken about any data issues as far as NIRF goes, so obviously you're still sour about NIRF from some other comments. Fair enough, but your response lacks any substance.

It's a known fact that the then WB CM created NUJS since he was impressed by the progress of NLS and saw that many Bengali students were leaving WB for NLS, and he wanted to retain the talent. That's why he invited Madhava Menon to establish NUJS. I never said that only Bengalis applied to NUJS but even if you look at the names of some of their earlier alumni, a large number of them are Bengalis.

It's obviously more simplistic for your charlatan minds to claim that AILET is only a cash-grabbing scheme but that's not the only reason for AILET. When a university provides high quality academic exposure which only a few other CLAT NLUs even provide, I see no reason why they need to group themselves with mediocrity. In the past, before the Consortium came into being, CLAT was always slammed as a poorly conducted, random exam that always had scams (from paper leaks to syllabus changes to technical snags) nearly every year. And even during the Consortium era, let's not forget the NLAT fiasco. Were it not for the Supreme Court, it's likely that even NLS would've exited CLAT.

If you are relatively well settled in you role, try to take out time for hobbies and definitely add some sporting activity / gym to your routine. In my experience, this helps with body confidence, which from your post, it appears you may be lacking. NCR may also have speed dating events which you could consider signing up for. Most importantly, even if love doesn't work out, it's hardly the end of the world. Most marriages do not even guarantee companionship, leave alone love. Always remember, you are enough.

Thanks.

I am assuming then teams which usually involve less burden of workload, do not call associates to report in office on Saturdays. If yes, then I believe one needs to have good fortune along with good credentials for getting into an X team of a firm which may have less work in that specific team, and may still offer decent pay?

How hard can it be to scout and land a job like this?

Lol, your acceptance of superiority is pretty misinformed, then. First, NLUD is better than both NALSAR and NUJS. And second, compared to NUJS, NALSAR is only really superior in terms of public relations and state funding. NUJS has more placements, more international moot/ADR wins and in the past few years, more Rhodes and other actually hard to get scholarships as well. And both are literally the same age.

Can anyone shed some light on the dress code that corp associates are expected to follow while staring out in a t1? I know it's supposed to be formals, but what exactly is preferred generally? Do light checks and stripes be alright? Also what about lighter shades of colours like green, pink, blue and red.

I know the question above might sound stupid, but please help!

Look at other places where they run a 3year and 5year course simultaneously.

SLS Pune: One of the best places for Corp jobs outside the top 5-7 NLUs. Now compare the placement records of the 5year and 3year course. Almost all the placements go to 5 year LLB students.

The picture is similar at places like Jindal (Although it does not have good placements overall but almost all the placements go to 5 year LLB peeps only) as well.

Now let me tell you why this is the case:

The placements are conducted at the end of 4th year or 2nd year for 5Year and 3year LLB respectively.

Now as a student of 3year LLB, it's very difficult to intern at a Corp law firm for more than 1 or 2months cuz firms usually don't take interns who does not have a basic understanding of Corp law and allied subjects. [Things like crim, torts and consti don't make much sense in law firms]. On the other hand, even a below average kid from the 5 year LLB course will have completed at least 4months of Corp internship at a T1 or similarly placed firms. Plus, there would be other advantages which will help 5 year llb kids like participating in more number of moot, research internships, publications, especially during 2nd and 3rd year. Corp internships are served on a platter to NLS kids in the 4th year. There are lot of other advantages like electives etc.

So when you sit for Day Z, there will be a massive difference between the CVs coming from the 3year course and the 5year course. This will make it very difficult to get recruited. Maybe the top 5-10 people from 3year LLB course but otherwise it's almost impossible!

Talk to a guy who is struggling to make a career at the age of 23 and a similarly placed girl at the age of 23. U will realize who has a privilege as far as dating is concerned!

In our society, no one will marry a guy who isn't making money. However, u will find men working in T1 law firms marrying unemployed girls. In order to date, money is the primary consideration which men must have while for women, it's looks. Age matters as well which may just be tied into looks!! It may look unfair but that's how the society works. Please don't call this a privilege.

A man without a job is in a similar position with a girl who doesn't look good or isn't young! Unfortunately, u r at the wrong side of things!

Eh no. No one in that entire process raised eyebrows because of my gap years and it is safe to assume that it won’t affect your chances as well. See you need to give a basic justification. Quite a lot of people make it with gap years. Why did you take drop(s)? Wanted a better college? Major Fuck-up in the exam hall due to nervousness? Stream change(your case) or major health issues? Just provide a basic justification. But here’s a pro tip - you can just neutrally mention them or you just play those gap years to your advantage in the essay or in the interview (if asked). I did the latter and honestly it worked pretty well! Don’t worry about these minor issues.

Coming to your second question , it is naive for the ABS authority to ask this but again you do have some skeletal blueprint right? I know this frnd of mine mentioned that he is clueless about his journey forward and started laughing awkwardly. Didn’t go pretty well. ABS is a big privileged in the sense that they demand you have certain information like basic long term career plans which ofc majority of aspirants won’t have a clue about. But you can read about various facets of law. If you mention - ‘corporate law’ , they won’t ask you to explain each and every nitty-gritty of M&A. Remember whatever you mention , it should connect with your personal journey which is about to come.

"I completed my undergraduate degree in law at NALSAR University of Law, Hyderabad, from where I graduated in 2017 with Gold Medals for Criminal Law; being the Best Orator; and also received the Vice Chancellor’s Gold Medal for the Best Male Graduate with Proven Leadership Qualities. After graduating from NALSAR, I worked briefly in the disputes practice of S&R Associates, where the lessons learnt in the practice of law were to prove valuable tools for a future career in academia.

The fact that academia was my true calling was a realisation first shaped by my own stint as a Teaching Assistant as a final year student at NALSAR, and then further on as an externally hired TA after graduation. I then went on to pursue my Master of Law at the University of Cambridge, United Kingdom, where I cultivated my research interests in the intersection of constitutional law and criminal law, and more specifically, in the practice of the death penalty in India. Thereafter, I joined NALSAR as an Assistant Professor in 2021, which in many ways marked a return to my home institution, and I couldn’t have asked for a better start for a career in academia. In my teaching responsibilities, I believe in an active engagement between both, what the law is, and what it ought to be, to nurture the critical analytical abilities in my students, that I credit my own NALSAR education much for.

In addition to my teaching responsibilities, I serve as the Faculty Supervisor of the University’s flagship Lecture Series on Constitutionalism, which aims to bridge the gap between scholarship and practice in the field of constitutionalism, and provide a space for deliberation on cutting-edge issues of constitutional law. My other non-teaching responsibilities also include coordinating the University’s social media outreach programs.

Apart from teaching, I enjoy writing and more so on contemporary themes in public law and criminal justice. Not known as much of a sports person, I do, however, enjoy swimming and occasional jogs to keep up with my fitness travails"

This is what Pranav Verma, had to say when he joined NALSAR as faculty, everyone was so happy that an alumnus came to Shameerpet to give back. Now, he too is leaving for greener pastures. Latest information suggests that he will join NLS.

Hey I am currently working as an In-house legal consultant in a small city with 30k salary. I have 6 months experience. I wanted to know where can I apply with chances of getting in with a decent salary considering my only 6 months of experience. I am interested in the litigation team.

Everything depends on the team. I work at DSK and have never come to the office on Saturday since I joined (2 years ago), I have probably worked 5 saturdays from home in that time. However, some teams do show up tp office on every saturday...

So everything is team centric

Lol NUALS kochi & diversity?

Atleast Nagpur has people from majority North Indian state and few South too. Kochi is small packed industrial port transit city that's it. kochi has location disadvantages, Nagpur lies in center equidistant from major capital cities of other states too.

Phase one of the campus is about to be completed just furnishing is left ,two more phases of work is yet to be carried out as expansion would take place in terms academic intake & diff. courses.

10/54 got placed in first batch better than any young NLU's first placement stats .

Recent passout of batch 2023 had received two trilegal PPOs don't know about what others have received but two campus placement drives were also organised from which one of them was placed in MNC i guess for 8LPA.

https://theprint.in/ground-reports/for-obc-students-in-up-bihar-studying-abroad-remains-a-dream-even-after-getting-admission/1631191/

Frankly, this is an appalling waste of taxpayer’s money and identity politics of the most perverse kind. Bihar is India’s poorest state and needs money to improve government hospitals, primary schools etc. If you need to appease OBC students for vote bank politics, fund them for LLMs in India instead.

30 crore for a single person (excluding house) if you want to have a lifestyle that includes eating out at nice places, growing holidays, a BMW every 6 to 8 years etc.

Add 15 crore if you have a non-working wife and 25 crore if she is a high-maintenance supermodel type.

Add another 10 crore per child.

Why so much hate for IIT Kgp? We don't even run the same race as you. We focus on career in patent, neither in corp law nor general lit. Even the entry criteria is different- BTech/ MSC is a must.

Law school has all the facilities required for being a good patent lawyer.

The dude who was placed in physics wallah is program head and was heird at 19 LPA.

So don't assume anything by looking at the company 's name or its tier.

Nluo was established much later that HNLU and RML and clearly by theses placement figures it is doing far better than both of the colleges.

This is an interview from a few years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caRV65oSAzE&t=2s

Its great to see such disarmingly honest advice from a Senior Counsel - particularly see the bit from 23:57 onwards where he advices on litigation.

I have followed him a lot in court and he is exactly what you see on screen. Humble, hardworking and very funny.

Take a look at this video from 23:57 onwards:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caRV65oSAzE&t=2s

Fantastic advice from Senior Advocate Gopal Sankarnarayanan on a career in litigation

As I mentioned for ‘specific reasons’. And yes I am indeed planning to. Don’t want to turn this forum into a d**k measuring contest again by justifying how the top 3 differs from this college. So I will appreciate if someone (that goes for the OP as well) takes the initiative for the QnA. Thank you!