Karma is a bitch...

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https://twitter.com/thehawkeyex/status/1726802796668944523

https://www.indiatoday.in/business/story/raymond-ceo-gautam-singhania-estranged-wife-nawaz-modi-singhania-divorce-settlement-demand-2465222-2023-11-20

1 & 2. It's in the first line itself. Already practicing. 10 years. I joined because at that time I needed the money & I was being paid well enough for a starter. Something that is rare in litigation. So I joined. Initially I wanted to teach, but I knew a masters and PhD would take time but mainly money that I didn't have enough of then, so I continued practicing till I earned enough to even think about quitting.

3. I did apply for a guest lecturer position a few years ago, but didn't get the job since the selected candidate was literally a retired district judge who had 2 decades of experience.

4. Since school & college I've always taught others, since I needed the money. In school I taught 10th grade kids for board. In college I taught 1st year juniors. At that time it was a necessity, I needed the money. However I started to enjoy explaining concepts, actually the reason why I even got a paid litigation job in the first place was because my concepts were crisp and clear, which in turn impressed my senior. All thanks to teaching others. I enjoy it.

5. I would have to pursue my master's first. I'm leaning more towards practical subjects like criminal or constitutional law. Will help with my experience.

Rest, after your response.

Mark my words. All the woke students at NLUs/JGLS ranting against Modi will end up joining CAM, advising Adani and cheering on the BJP in elections when they grow up. Let me tell you a true story. There is a certain partner at a T1 firm who was a hardcore communist in college and actually a member of the SFI. His Facebook profile had a photo of Che Guevara. He can now talk nothing other than stocks and shares when you meet him socially. He is also a staunch defender of Modi. One day, I heard him make a remark saying that the government should bulldoze all slums in Mumbai and kick out the slum dwellers.

Fresher here, I was working in a law firm.but left dur to se.reasons.Now taking up jobs in other sectors- in-house,startup regulatory companies etc.What are my chances if I want to bounce back into the law firm buisness or how tough it would be after gaining some experience of like 1 year of so?

In Capital Markets:

1) SAM (Mumbai and Delhi)

- Delhi saw mass attrition recently but still hasn't recruited people until now

- Mumbai is on a freeze

2) IndusLaw (Mumbai, Delhi, Bangalore)

- Mumbai is always hiring

- Delhi is terrible

- Bangalore is a small team and never loses talent

3) KCO (Mumbai, Noida, Bangalore)

- Mumbai is on a freeze; prefers laterals

- Noida is a good option

- Bangalore is a small team and never loses talent

4) CAM (Mumbai and Bangalore)

- Only does campus i.e. picks up toppers who are terrible with work/have no idea about ECM or picks up paralegals from GLC who are later given the offer

5) S&R (Mumbai and Delhi)

- Very very picky and top heavy; recruits the cream of the crop

6) Trilegal (Mumbai)

- Richa's team is on a freeze

- Bhakta's team has a very few mandates

7) JSA (Mumbai and Gurgaon)

- Sweatshop for law students tbh; will make you a "junior associate" which is a glorified paralegal job after 6 months of an assessment internship

- Prefers laterals over freshers

8) AZB (Mumbai and Noida)

- Mumbai has not lost talent

- Noida's dealmaking is non existent

8) Saraf (Mumbai), Luthra (Delhi), Bharucha (Mumbai)

- Very small team, very few mandates

9) SNG (Delhi), Rajani (Mumbai), CrawfordB (Mumbai)

- Lot of mid markets and small markets work; very very picky with PPOs

Hi,

Wearing formal trousers (black) and full-sleeved formal shirts (white) is the safest bet. But maintaining white shirts can be a little tough if you are travelling a lot/using the trains, so it is better to look for cheap white shirts to keep updating them occasionally (white looks good only when new). I change into good shirts after coming to the office or I cover myself before travel. Black trousers or even maybe grey is your safest bet, it doesn't get dirty easily and goes with almost all colours. Indian formals are very comfortable tbh but be careful while taking them because NOT every kurti looks formal. Formals look good when they fit you well so invest in something that compliments you. Don't get small sizes please, looks very awkward around the crotch.

Keep the blazer in your office itself don't carry it around while travelling. Also get a cheap blazer if required (You get it on Amazon for 600-900Rs) if you want it for heavy-duty use, running around etc. and keep a good one for nice fancy events and client meetings. Wear formal shoes while in the office and change into comfy ones when you travel.

Also, check this out:

https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/287707-formals-dilemma-wearing-shirt-untucked-in-t2-law-firms#comment-287938

BJP accuses Pinaki Misra of helping TMC MP Mahua
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In a Press conference here, BJP leader Manoj Mohapatra, while showing a photograph featuring Misra and TMC MP Mahua Moitra, said, “We want to know the reason behind this intimacy between Pinaki Misra and Mahua Moitra.”

“In his affidavit, Darshan Hiranandani, who gave cash to Mahua Moitra to ask questions in the Parliament, has admitted that he has bought furniture and other luxurious items for her and mentioned the name of BJD MP Pinaki Misra,” said Mohapatra.

Terming Pinaki Misra as the “current account” of Mahua Moitra, Mohapatra said, “We want to know what he has done is anti-people or not in BJD’s language. If it is anti-people, then we demand his immediate expulsion from the party.”

The BJP also demanded that CM Naveen Patnaik, who is also the State’s Home Minister, order an investigation by the EOW in the matter.

https://www.dailypioneer.com/2023/state-editions/bjp-accuses-pinaki-misra-of-helping-tmc-mp-mahua.html

Not all equity partners. Also the 6 cr debt is way higher than 6 considering compound interest, inflation in other costs, but a bad legal market. Ain't no partner taking that risk for atleast 2 to 3 years in this market.

However, I made the assumption of them being a pure merit couple. They could have family wealth or could've made great investments in the 2020 surge.

It's refreshing to see the likes of Shehla Rashid staying true to their values, openly adapting, course-correcting, and tempering their views with a genuine understanding based on a lived experience of what they once principally stood opposed to. If only the others were less proud and as intellectually honest! Sigh!

In a recent interview with ANI, she delved into the intricacies of her perspective, providing a detailed account of her journey and growth.

Here’s the link -

https://youtu.be/_q0-rZr4ON4

In the initial stage, law firm folks make much much more than in-house lawyers but 20 years down the line; the ESOPs, senior management yields and other bonus components make a GC's portfolio way more flourishing than the former who will be stuck with a big variable quotient since the buck stops at how much business he/she brings to the firm. However, a GC's salary has much to do with the sector the company is affiliated with, his/her past experience (where a law firm exposure will be a bonus), business acumen and ability to take tough calls both in favour as well as against the board of management (which in most cases are questionnable creatures with high flying MBAs acting like they know the law inside out).

Put this on time line, he is 73 now (Born in 1950). He sold tea in trains in Vadnagar railway station when he was believed to be 12 years old, because per his own story, he left house when he was 17. That means, he sold tea at Vadnagar station between 1962 to 1967, however, Vadnagar Station was built in 1973. Then per Modi himself, he went to Himalaya, lord knows for how many years. He ate "Bhiksha Maang ke" for 35 years, He studied MA in Politics from Gujarat University or Delhi University (no classmate is found till the date), and he was Gujarat BJP sangathan Mahamantri from 1988 to 1995. National General Secretory from 1995 to 2000 and CM of Gujarat from 2001 to 2014. So, from 1950 to 1988 (38 years) , He caught crocodiles in Vadnagar, He sold tea, He studied till MA, He went to RSS Sakhas, He went Himalaya and lived in some caves and meditated, went to USA and UK on tours, while eating "Bheekh" maang ke for 35 years out of those 38. And one day in 1988, he became Gujarat BJP's State General Secretory .... What a scamster PM india has voted for ...

There's a lot of uncertainty regarding the future, but one thing is clear: the attrition rate in the junior ranks has been remarkably low in the last and current fiscal year. I do not see any improvement in the short term.

However, don't lose heart. If you put in the work and have a bit of luck, you'll get a good job.

Most nlu classroom are fitted with AC and well made but not flamboyant like Jindal, toilet are

maintained okayishly, hostel are also medicore but not crumbling or dialaphated. There are some profs in some t1,t2,t3 nlu where prof were associate in law firm before becoming. Faculty

Hey guys - thanks a lot for the concern.

Firstly I am not marrying out of pressure. Infact I want to start a family or something to call my own. My parents have given up. So..

Reason behind the post was just to know how fellow women lawyers navigated the arranged marriage process and post marriage life with hectic hours. Also to know other elements in the process - did you really find romance/spark etc.

It's not easy for a women to work 247. I wanted to hear success stories / failures to learn more as I also look at matches.

Jai Dehadrai's now-deleted tweet calling Mahua "Mrs Chandraswami" is interesting. The real Chandraswami was one of the most famous fixers in the history of India, who posed as a sadhu. Pinaki was Chandraswami's lawyer and close advisor for many years. In the tax case below, Pinaki admits he made 22 foreign visits with Chandraswami.

Interesting reference.

https://taxguru.in/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Commr.Of-Income-Tax-Central-I-Vs.-Pinaki-Misra-Anr-Delhi-High-Court.pdf

I always thought it was unfair how MBA graduates would get paid more than lawyers because of the large number of companies that offer managerial roles, but isn't that true for lawyer who perform in-house roles too. Going in-house broadens the pool of potential employers amd going by the recent article that was shared here, GCs seem to be earning 3-10 crores so at the fresher and partner/GC level in-house salaries seem to be the same (maybe even more) than Tier 1s?

It's much harder to raise a child with a deadweight partner. If you have supportive family or friends, you could actually go ahead and do it. There are women all over India who are doing this with artificial insemination now. People will judge if they want but personally I think women who don't wait for men to start family are amaze.

Honestly, I've heard it does get harder for women who are having highly successful careers to find a partner as they progress and it's very unfortunate. I feel there's nothing more gratifying than having your partner succeed and ideally you too with her.

I guess there's probably no one shot solution for this other than keeping an open mind and hope for things to work out.

I really hope it does for you.

Good luck

BO'28, you're doing fine! BO'24, it's a bit rich of you to throw shade with the history you guys had. We too have been the subject of BO'26's scrutiny back when we first got here. And now BO'28 is struggling through the same labyrinth we once were stuck in. You won't find us acting like we've ascended to the heavens of legal enlightenment though. Let's please break this cycle of self-righteous criticism, offer our support in our capacity as seniors, and not have any more of this inter-batch rivalry bullshit. Thank you and have a nice day.

As an (former) intern who ended up getting a ppo from a tier 2 firm -

1. Be available and proactive.

2. Accept all work that comes your way, even if it is marking pages and organising files. This is will build reliability and you will eventually be trusted with more complicated things.

3. Be open to learning and ask questions if and when you have doubts. It is not necessary or even possible for you to know everything but what is imp is your mindset.

4. Stick to deadlines and communicate if you will have a difficulty in meeting them.

5. Act and dress professionally.

6. Don’t sit idle for too long and ask for work if you have bandwidth.

That is all that is expected from you in your first internship. Know your basics of law and MS word and you will be fine.

I recently joined a T1 few months back, Idk if something is wrong with me but I have already lost all hope. I have realised I can’t pursue this career, I do not wish to demean the culture or the people who love this field but I have come to a conclusion that this is not for me.

I am planning to stick around for a year, since I don’t want to leave my first job within few months. But I’m definitely and actively looking for a path out, already.

I don’t know if there are others who feel the same as well!

Most tier 1s I intern with. The recent 2023 batch associates are insufferable to work with. They are so condescending and treat interns like shit. They praise you till the work is done and then vanished.

Also these people barely know the work theyre doing but benefitted from the 2023 mass hiring, but act like partners. There's a lot of difference between the 2022 batch and 2023 batch associates. Can even seniors agree to this?

the only way to advance significantly in a teaching career is to do an llm and then a phd. Or you can do a phd directly in an allied discipline- law and economics or law and history or law and society something. But you will need a doctoral degree. 40 is fine to start- I know a fair number of successful people in academia who only got done with their phd by their late thirties/ early forties.

Subject: Gratitude for your Pearls of Wisdom

Dear Concerned Senior,

I hope this missive finds you in the pinnacle of your academic and extracurricular pursuits. Your eloquent expression of concern has not gone unnoticed, and I am genuinely touched by your unwavering dedication to the welfare of our beloved BO'28.

Your insights into the perceived deficiencies of our batch have left an indelible mark on my conscience, prompting me to reflect deeply on the nature of our existence within these hallowed academic halls. It is heartening to see a senior so ardently invested in the prosperity of their junior counterparts, and for that, I extend my sincerest gratitude.

Your poignant observation regarding the historical absence of ABS scholars among us has not fallen on deaf ears. Rest assured, we, the supposedly "worthless batch," will strive to defy expectations and perhaps, in time, produce not one but an entire constellation of ABS scholars, dazzling the academic firmament with our newfound brilliance.

Your counsel on the hazards of socializing with seniors as equals has been duly noted. We recognize the gravity of the situation, where the seemingly innocent camaraderie may lead us astray into the perilous realms of intoxicants and questionable influences. Fear not, for we shall heed your warnings and exercise utmost caution, realizing that our pursuit of knowledge should far surpass any fleeting desires for social validation.

In conclusion, dear Concerned Senior, I am immensely grateful for your pearls of wisdom. Your dedication to our enlightenment is truly inspiring, and we shall strive to meet the lofty expectations set by your esteemed self. May the light of your guidance continue to shine upon us as we navigate the tumultuous waters of legal education.

With profound appreciation,

A Devoted BO'28 Scholar

Hey, 0 Work Ex does not mean you are clueless about work. As far as I know, they do take small interview . You must be thorough with criminal and constitutional law. Must know drafting too !

Plus, increase is not that good in Kalman's chamber . You will be stuck in 1 L forever I guess.

Not just DJS. In every state man/woman ratio is not more for man. Point is the service is not that monetarily lucrative in the longer run . I stopped preapring after I got inside circle of Justices of HC thru friends and colleagues. After LPG of 1990s, corporate world has a LOT to offer.

Big4/MAANG/GC jobs in MNCs are kickass.

Securitization work is the singularly most mindless work that you can do in corporate law.

There will be times in the second transaction onwards between the assingor and the assignee, all you will be doing is changing the numbers in a few places and revising the schedules (ie taking the table in the excel sheet and copying that into the document).

If possible, do some other work where you have to apply youself more.