don't care what people are doing in their bedrooms. I care about how these connections (personal or familial) are affecting a worthy candidate's chances of landing a job.

P.S.: I suppose you're a lawyer or a law student. It would have been better to see a well-reasoned rebuttal coming from you. However, your constant attack suggests that your mind works like an intolerant layman.

I'll let Justice Moushumi Bhattacharya answer this - https://www.google.com/search?q=justice+moushumi+bhattacharya&oq=justice+moushu&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgAEAAYgAQyBwgAEAAYgAQyBggBEEUYOTIHCAIQABiABNIBCDI1NThqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:77dccd58,vid:vaTtA8eZzuU,st:0

In general, the more 'isolated' a society is , the more exploitation. Calcutta bar is a closed group. You can get in , but not get out and continue to slog for little or no pay with no option to EXIT after a few years. In comparison, Delhi and Bombay Bar is a bit flexible and has better pay in average atleast after 2-3 years in a Chamber.

Calcutta MP HC Bar , Jharkhand Bar - These smaller states have very tight circle . Avoid if first generation .

I am not trying to act all intellectual or anything here, but trying to push a genuine concern. Men really have a disadvantage in this domain and it's something out of their scope of influence, and what's even worse is that female counterparts, though not all, but mostly are extremely insolent and vile while approaching for help. Idk why what goes in being a little considerate. Hope it's understandable.

Prepare for judiciary only for states you want to love in forever. For example Himachal and Uttarakhand would be better to live in forever than Bihar or UP, despite the latter having more reputation and clout. Political interference is also more in such states, yet so are the promotions.

However, don't leave your job. All competitive exams are uncertain and unemployment is on the rise. So if you leave a job and decide to come back it will be tougher & more frustrating. So best is to prepare with job and leave only when you have to start training at the Judicial academy.

To the LLM alums, read these lyrics and hope it helps!

Do you ever feel like a plastic bag
Drifting through the wind, wanting to start again?
Do you ever feel, feel so paper thin
Like a house of cards, one blow from cavin' in?
Do you ever feel already buried deep?
Six feet under screams, but no one seems to hear a thing
Do you know that there's still a chance for you?
'Cause there's a spark in you

You just gotta ignite the light
And let it shine
Just own the night
Like the Fourth of July

'Cause baby, you're a firework
Come on, show 'em what you're worth
Make 'em go, "Oh, oh, oh"
As you shoot across the sky
Baby, you're a firework
Come on, let your colors burst
Make 'em go, "Oh, oh, oh"
You're gonna leave 'em all in awe, awe, awe

You don't have to feel like a waste of space
You're original, cannot be replaced
If you only knew what the future holds
After a hurricane comes a rainbow
Maybe a reason why all the doors are closed
So you could open one that leads you to the perfect road
Like a lightning bolt, your heart will glow
And when it's time, you'll know

You just gotta ignite the light
And let it shine
Just own the night
Like the Fourth of July

'Cause baby, you're a firework
Come on, show 'em what you're worth
Make 'em go, "Oh, oh, oh"
As you shoot across the sky
Baby, you're a firework
Come on, let your colors burst
Make 'em go, "Oh, oh, oh"
You're gonna leave 'em all in awe, awe, awe

Boom, boom, boom
Even brighter than the moon, moon, moon
It's always been inside of you, you, you
And now it's time to let it through

'Cause baby, you're a firework
Come on, show 'em what you're worth
Make 'em go, "Oh, oh, oh"
As you shoot across the sky
Baby, you're a firework
Come on, let your colors burst
Make 'em go, "Oh, oh, oh"
You're gonna leave 'em all in awe, awe, awe

Boom, boom, boom
Even brighter than the moon, moon, moon
Boom, boom, boom
Even brighter than the moon, moon, moon

Predatory and toxic behaviour is more common with older men. I feel that girls need to think seriously about dating anyone older than 2 years, be it a college senior or a colleague. Couples with larger age gaps like Ranbir-Alia make me uncomfortable and we have seen that Ranbir has made problematic statements in the past. For me, 2 years is the limit and no more.

I'm a final year at a T1 NLU and I've got PPOs from Trilegal (M&A/Corporate) and SAM (M&A/Corporate) for the Bombay offices. Does it really matter which one I pick to join? As far as I can tell the work hours are comparable, the bosses seem similar, the teams are a mixed bag (some great folx, mostly alright folx, and some people I don't think I'd be friends with). I'm not originally from Bombay, but I've made up my mind to make the move if the opportunities are worth it.

I know I might get a lot of hate for my comments here but through my personal experiences and anecdotes,I have been seeing that males have a hard time at job seeking as compared to females.Let me be clear on this one - Lot of girls have an inherent ability and advantage of getting access to internships and jobs etc. solely because of their credibility.They can reach to any senior partner or associate for that matter and easily be considered, while boys on the other hand face rejections under almost simmilar circumstances,ad sometimes even more too.

Now we can keep this whole male-female privilege debate for some other time but here I'm trying to target the subjectivity of this issue and try to address this on a practical level.How so we boys organically progress in our endeavours effectively as it's evident now face value only works in case of girls .Your comments would be highly appreciated and even more the avoidance of snide and woke jibes.

Thans you

I didn't know India is bombing schools and hospitals in Kashmir or China is doing something similar in Xinjiang.

I'm not going to say everything is hanky dory in Kashmir but to compare it to Gaza just shows your stupidity.

As for China, there is no genocide in xinjiang, west simultaneously accused china of ethnic cleansing and forced labour, how are they doing both?

I'll accept that there are re-education camps but that's because US tried to break China the same way they did USSR, which is by instilling rebellion and growing terrorism in Central Asia.

US started accusing China of genocide exactly at the time when it started challenging US supremacy.

I’m trying my best but from what I’ve heard Trilegal tries not to give callbacks to final year students and I just feel like time is very quickly running out on me.

I’m wondering if looking for looking for direct assessments in other places might be a better idea or whether I should explore other options in law? But you’re right this would be the ideal situation.

i mean- respect and all is earned. at the NLU I went to- we appreciated and wanted llm students who worked hard and were ambitious and fit in with us socially. Those who didnt- we didnt care much about. We didnt hate them- we just didnt care about them at all. be more like the first group.

Understand that if theres one common thing among all ug clat toppers- its that they are really ambitious. They want the best jobs and the best LLMs and they want the best everything. the competition is cut throat. And when theyre working that hard- and they see you dragging the university standards down because you want time to study for the judiciary instead- youre just at cross purposes.

plenty of llb students then go on to do llm from the same institution- they dont lose respect with their juniors. You just have to be prepared for contributing to the nlu project than simply taking away from it.

People dropping two to three years to get another attempt at this two hour clat. And you think you will just do a one year course, get benefit of two degrees, be called a PG, get the NLS tag, get the NLS grad type jobs and enjoy benefits of two alumni network just because you think your two hours were more decisive or critical than someone's two or three year drop or five years of rigor of a trimester system with some of the smartest brains of India as competitors? You are just being an arrogant entitled (mis)egalitarianist while we are being meritocratic realist.

Firstly as difficult this may sound to digest but please do NOT FOOL YOURSELF into equating an Indian LLM to an Indian Medicinal PG. A MD is literally the bread and butter of many doctors as specialization is needed to actually do anything after MBBS. Think of it as a sort of bare minimum. While the bare minimum (actually more than sufficient) to practice law is LLB. There are retired law firm partners who have never done LLM but can you name one famous specialist doctor of India who was just a MBBS? No. All LLMs (those who don't want to join academia) know that they only come to NLUs to get the NLU tag. Some of the LLMs at NLS were actually shocked to learn that they do not have a day zero like LLB. Or top law firms do not come to campus to recruit for LLMs. While for IIT Mtechs or even general MBAs employers actually line up for giving jobs. Its simple. Some PGs are essential for certain jobs. Unfortunately LLM is not such a PG. The only field where LLM will help is academia and Unfortunately we know that a very few minority of LLMs are actually doing it for the teaching part. Most of them are just there to get the NLU tag. But that's the catch you wont get the NLU tag because that degree is not industrially respected. It adds nothing for a T1 law firm. A 1 year course or a distance learning degree from NLS will not make you equivalent to a 5 year course. CLAT UG is highly competitive while CLAT PG is only/mostly given by those who couldn't get a T1 in CLAT UG. So cream is already out. On the question of alumni front, I guess if I have done an online course from Harvard then I am a Harvard alumni. NLS also offers distance learning MBL course then I guess they are also NLS alumni. So technically everyone is an alumni no matter if they have done a 5 year course or a 6 month online diploma. But that doesn't mean that you can force your way into the NLS Grads alumni network much like an online course wouldn't let me make my way into Harvard alumni network. Sure each batch is free to make their own alumni network. No one is stopping you. I also feel it is unfair for people to enjoy privileges of two alumni networks at the cost of others. So a traditional law school grad who has done LLM from NLS would want alumni support from their own grad school PLUS NLS and enjoy all benefits that both networks give. Then why did the kid from NLS work so hard to spend 5 years at NLS? There are people who are dropping two to three years just to get into NLS. Daily on legally india people ask questions that is it worth it to graduate from NLS at 26? If it was so easy to get the coveted NLS alum tag then they will just rather do a one year LLM or a distance learning course from NLS and be done with it. I think hard work should be honored more than such shortcuts. Now people would jump to call me elitist and what not but I am just being meritocratic and want to actually respect the guy who worked hard and then dropped a couple of years and then worked hard again at NLS for the next five years to earn the coveted NLS grad tag than someone who thinks they deserve the same tag just because they did a one year course from there. Everyone is an alum. But everyone is not an NLS grad. This is nothing new in India. You will often see that alumni associations in US and UK are also stream or field of study wise and fiercely competitive. There is nothing wrong in that.

What do most people who have exited competition law after a few years of experience (till SA levels) have done after exiting? Looking for either law or non-law options. While I really enjoy it, the practice area is too niche and it is making sense to leave before it is too late and the feeling of being stuck kicks in (visible in many people).

It's really difficult to get a loan with no income and no guarantor, even if you have one of the above it becomes easier.

For the college fees, you can opt for an educational loan which comes at around 11% pa and no collateral would be needed. Even for the personal loan of 120000 (54k+66k) you would not require a collateral.

In my research, these 3 requisites were common among all the reliable alternatives:

1.Any alternate source of income

2.CIBIL score of the guarantee

3.A consistent source of income proof of the guarantee

You should take note that if you belong to one of the T-1 NLUs, chances are that you would get a concession on the interest charged.

I am a student myself and I haven't studied human rights law yet so I can't really help. I am sure that you can find some good material on Oxford Academic (academic.oup.com) and Cambridge Core (cambridge.org/core) though. You can also just try searching stuff you find interesting on Jstor to find good articles. Paywalls can be easily bypassed through Library Genesis, Sci-Hub, and Nexus Search.

Number of filing alone won't give you the full picture. Number of patents successfully commercialised will. India has been filing an increasing number of patents lately (still lesser than US), but only a fraction gets successfully commercialised. Clearly the PO is not checking for that industrial use factor very closely.

I cannot speak for others, but personally, I feel it disturbing to see so many people dying every day needlessly, when we are supposed to be so-called civilised law abiding species in the world. I do not care about the religion issue at all, but nothing can be worth these many innocent lives, including children. Not taking sides, since both the sides have been indulging in indiscriminate killing here.

Seriously?

Don't you care? Don't you even bother? Thousands of children and women have been killed, and that is not even an issue for you? Is it purely a religious question? Sorry to say, but is it completely okay if someone bomb your house and kill your entire family? Shame!

Currently entering the 8th Semester in a 5 year LLB course. I graduate in April/May 2025.

Kindly advise the different ways in which I can finance my life till I start working.

Like any guidance is appreciated. If you know someone or if you are someone who has a loan, pls give me the deets if possible (bank, scheme name, interest etc.)

I need to finance my life until I start working. I am hoping (and there's a good chance) that I get a PPO by end of June 2024 or a job offer through placements by Jul/Aug 2024. I live in a residential college.

Here are the list of things I need to finance:

1. College Fee - 2.7L

2. Two months in Mumbai

3. Living and Misc Expenses - 3,000 * 18 months (assuming I start working from July 2025)

The 3,000 figure is meant to include all incidental expenses as well as to have a reserve corpus.

Thanks in advance

Why should the students protest against Sudhir inviting the academic? The person in question is a respected scholar and alum and has been invited purely to advise on his area of expertise. He has also challenged the decision in court on a very strong ground, which is that his employer does not have jurisdiction over acts committed outside the workplace and outside the course of employment. This is basic law 101.

https://www.lawctopus.com/jgls-internships-4076-overall-1276-law-firms/

All internships going to jindal. 82 in khaitan only. How about other law school

So how are HSC and SS doing. Whats the status of the partners who went with them? what about the ones from Competition, Employment and Litigation who stayed back at DSK? Whats the status of the ones who stayed back at L&L? what about the ones like RR and AT who went independent? TD who went to Singhania... Which decision has turned out to be the best, remaining in L&L, DSK, C&S or independent/other options?

I am studying at at t1 nlu and almost everyone has some random opinion on this issue. I do not understand why or how it is related in Indian context. Personally, I think it is just another religious land conflict but gets a disproportionate amount of attention by both the left and the right.

Actually it is the other way round. If it's an office thing, it's automatically forced on everyone in the office. Unlike a party, that I may choose not to attend, in a secret Santa situation I am forced to participate as my secret Santa will buy a gift for me. I don't want to socialize with office peeps

I appreciate the concern.

To be quite honest, it was a calculated guess from my side. I would elaborate on how I made the following guess so that it doesn't make anyone paranoid about their IP being disclosed.

1. The comment just above him, which ACTUALLY answered the query got no traction, while the comment that was solely intended to target and disregard the question at hand got such a positive response, which seemed off to me.

2. While the first point may have been speculation, the upcoming point convinced me.

As Mods, we're enabled to see a series of 3 randomized emojis that denote a certain IP that is not disclosed to anyone, and even those randomized emojis get refreshed every 24-48 hours. The comment had a reply under it that said "Lol yeah." supposing itself as a concurring opinion with the guy who wrote the original comment, but in reality it was the same person, which had the same 3 randomized series of emojis denoting the same encrypted IP. This ultimately translates to him seeking validation for his comment. Hence, I made the following assertion.

I had to answer in full depth so as not to leave the wrong impression since the IP revelation is rightfully a sensitive topic. If you have any further questions, feel free to ask ;)

The whole process is better explained here: https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/295300-is-legally-india-truly-anonymous#comment-295578

PiS is unquestionably far-right on social issues. They enacted one of the most stringent anti-abortion laws during their rule, and also played a major part in setting up 'LGBTQ-free' zones all over Poland, which had to be scrapped as they got called out by the EU. Poland's economy has been growing at a stable rate ever since they got rid of socialist one-party control. If everything was indeed going so well then other parties having ideologies ranging from left-wing to centre-right would not have rallied together to successfully dethrone PiS from power. I did my research before speaking, period.

@AshReh: No argument about your first 3 points, but the 4th one makes me wonder if the Mods are privy to the IP address from which upvotes/downvotes are made, or whether it was just a guess on your part. Just technical curiosity, nothing more.

Suggest advocates who extensively practice commercial litigation in various fora. I am looking for a place where I can extensively learn CPC, civil law, and commercial law.

Not looking for a big-shot lawyer because hardly any learning happens for an intern there. The goal is to find a good mentor and learn as much as possible.

Please, suggest only if you actually know. Don't take names which are popular on Instagram or LinkedIn blindly.

I understand that it is too late to find one so close to the start date, but any information/help for an internship (any practice area) in Delhi/NCR woud be really helpful. I have decent research experience in IP Law, if that helps. I am willing to dedicate long hours at Office and possess excellent research and drafting skills. TIA!

1. If I had wanted to comment, I wouldn't have taken the shield of anonymity like you.

2. As a member and fellow moderator of the platform, I do not feel SUPERIOR to anyone, be it someone from 'tier-3 NLU or lower', so I don't understand the point made. I've always upheld the stance that acing CLAT doesn't translate into one being a better lawyer.

3. Rather than targeting, you should've instead presented your points on why SLSP is a better choice. Given the circumstances and the financial aspect, it makes no sense to burn an extra 4 lakhs for arguably the same experience when he/she might take CLAT next year.

4. You shouldn't be so petty as to inflate your upvotes by refreshing the page. Grow up :)

Not worth at all. My friend left within 8 months of joining and there is no exit opportunity. Will be difficult for you to take a legal role in a law firm after this. Do it only of you are seriously interested in business development role. Otherwise you'd be messing up your legal career

Akehurst (https://www.taylorfrancis.com/books/mono/10.4324/9780429439391/akehurst-modern-introduction-international-law-alexander-orakhelashvili) is really good. It is a prescribed reading in my university's international law course. You can get the latest edition of the book from Library Genesis.

Did this happen for real or it's just a bunch of entitled 1st year BA LLB students trying to create unnecessary drama by portraying that there is a conflict between LLM and BA LLB alums when the reality is neither of the folks from either of the cohorts would bother about nonsensical brotherhoods or cliques. I swear some of my peers from the 5 year program are quite insufferable. Tbh, in the real world no one would care about such things and mostly people would interact respectfully with each other regardless of whichever cohort they belonged to.