People dropping two to three years to get another attempt at this two hour clat. And you think you will just do a one year course, get benefit of two degrees, be called a PG, get the NLS tag, get the NLS grad type jobs and enjoy benefits of two alumni network just because you think your two hours were more decisive or critical than someone's two or three year drop or five years of rigor of a trimester system with some of the smartest brains of India as competitors? You are just being an arrogant entitled (mis)egalitarianist while we are being meritocratic realist.

As a 5 year law graduate from a T1 NLU.

Please don't start this meritocracy bull*hit.

Would you say an MD from AIIMS is less meritorious than an MBBS?

The only logical reason I feel llm folks aren't being recognized as alumni is they have minimal connection with others (BA LLB/ PhD).

They are in the college only for a year, they don't fraternize with others, so there is no connection.

Show some maturity then. You're a Postgraduate. Drop the ego !

I have a LLM from an NLU as well. However I completely accept that I'm not an alumni as much as LLB grads are. 5 years vs 1/2 years is a big difference.

Moreover, before entering NLU, I didn't go for the tag, I went to learn. I went to see how the pedagogy and methods are different between NLUs and Non-NLUs, so that tomorrow when I teach my students I can bring the best of both the worlds. Do that. You've been someone who's seen both kinds of institutions and people in them, take the best of it and move forward.

Stop being obsessed with the past. You got in, you studied, you passed out. Focus on the present work and future. Whether llb or LLM , now people will judge you from your work, not the institution you come from.

Firstly as difficult this may sound to digest but please do NOT FOOL YOURSELF into equating an Indian LLM to an Indian Medicinal PG. A MD is literally the bread and butter of many doctors as specialization is needed to actually do anything after MBBS. Think of it as a sort of bare minimum. While the bare minimum (actually more than sufficient) to practice law is LLB. There are retired law firm partners who have never done LLM but can you name one famous specialist doctor of India who was just a MBBS? No. All LLMs (those who don't want to join academia) know that they only come to NLUs to get the NLU tag. Some of the LLMs at NLS were actually shocked to learn that they do not have a day zero like LLB. Or top law firms do not come to campus to recruit for LLMs. While for IIT Mtechs or even general MBAs employers actually line up for giving jobs. Its simple. Some PGs are essential for certain jobs. Unfortunately LLM is not such a PG. The only field where LLM will help is academia and Unfortunately we know that a very few minority of LLMs are actually doing it for the teaching part. Most of them are just there to get the NLU tag. But that's the catch you wont get the NLU tag because that degree is not industrially respected. It adds nothing for a T1 law firm. A 1 year course or a distance learning degree from NLS will not make you equivalent to a 5 year course. CLAT UG is highly competitive while CLAT PG is only/mostly given by those who couldn't get a T1 in CLAT UG. So cream is already out. On the question of alumni front, I guess if I have done an online course from Harvard then I am a Harvard alumni. NLS also offers distance learning MBL course then I guess they are also NLS alumni. So technically everyone is an alumni no matter if they have done a 5 year course or a 6 month online diploma. But that doesn't mean that you can force your way into the NLS Grads alumni network much like an online course wouldn't let me make my way into Harvard alumni network. Sure each batch is free to make their own alumni network. No one is stopping you. I also feel it is unfair for people to enjoy privileges of two alumni networks at the cost of others. So a traditional law school grad who has done LLM from NLS would want alumni support from their own grad school PLUS NLS and enjoy all benefits that both networks give. Then why did the kid from NLS work so hard to spend 5 years at NLS? There are people who are dropping two to three years just to get into NLS. Daily on legally india people ask questions that is it worth it to graduate from NLS at 26? If it was so easy to get the coveted NLS alum tag then they will just rather do a one year LLM or a distance learning course from NLS and be done with it. I think hard work should be honored more than such shortcuts. Now people would jump to call me elitist and what not but I am just being meritocratic and want to actually respect the guy who worked hard and then dropped a couple of years and then worked hard again at NLS for the next five years to earn the coveted NLS grad tag than someone who thinks they deserve the same tag just because they did a one year course from there. Everyone is an alum. But everyone is not an NLS grad. This is nothing new in India. You will often see that alumni associations in US and UK are also stream or field of study wise and fiercely competitive. There is nothing wrong in that.

i mean- respect and all is earned. at the NLU I went to- we appreciated and wanted llm students who worked hard and were ambitious and fit in with us socially. Those who didnt- we didnt care much about. We didnt hate them- we just didnt care about them at all. be more like the first group.

Understand that if theres one common thing among all ug clat toppers- its that they are really ambitious. They want the best jobs and the best LLMs and they want the best everything. the competition is cut throat. And when theyre working that hard- and they see you dragging the university standards down because you want time to study for the judiciary instead- youre just at cross purposes.

plenty of llb students then go on to do llm from the same institution- they dont lose respect with their juniors. You just have to be prepared for contributing to the nlu project than simply taking away from it.