Most people from most colleges that aren't the top NLUs are currently in the same boat. At RGNUL, less than 20% have remotely decent jobs [excluding people who've settled for litigation chambers that pay less than 20-30k]. Similar story at RMLNLU and NUALS, where many are in hopes of clearing competitive exams and landing a job. So, for what it's worth, it's clearly more of an economy scenario rather than an individual issue — even the IITs and IIMs have seen some of the worst placement statistics ever; it's all over the news. Eventually though, I'm hopeful that the economy will correct itself and we'll get something somewhere. All the best, mate! :')

I am from a no name pvt college, about to complete my third year. Before y'all troll me for being dumb, I am genuinely ashamed that until now I hadn't realized how important it is to be doing a t1 internship after my third year to have some chances in securing a PPO . It was always told to me to wait until fourth year to apply to such places which is why I do not have any t1 internship lined up. I am so so scared that I will graduate with no job. Can you please guide me as to how with the limited time left to intern (before day zero in 2025) , I can still somehow have a shot at getting a ppo and which firms and practice area should I be targeting to have a better chance at the same. Preferably in Mumbai. I'd be really grateful, thanks a lot!

Yes, Justice KC was an active BJP member before his elevation to the Bench (bitterly opposed by CM "Kindness" while vociferously pushing the candidature of TMC acolytes). The matter did end up in the Cal HC when Justice KC was dealing with a case involving CM and the AG (KD) was appropriately schooled. So let's not read further "politics' into what KC can do.

Many judges without known political pasts act/ed in very political ways and reaped rewards. With KC, he knows that the "scrutiny" will always be there.

The other case by this Associate Professor is before Justice Jay Sengupta who has also given orders "against" the state govt.

This might sound like I have offers from all of them. Lol. I'm just curious about the work culture at these firms as I have heard decent reviews from people there. They pay decently as well.

I'm specifically referring to M&A, PE, VC, or say even Tech teams for that matter. I'm part of the 2025 batch and have 2 separate questions.

1) which of these three firms is better overall for the practice area I mentioned in BLR?

2) whether it makes sense to work at a tier 3/4 firm right after I graduate instead of chasing tier 1s?

What could the pros and cons be in both cases? I would really appreciate it if someone could highlight this in detail. Thank you!!

Re: poor person stealing food analogy - we create a society where basic needs like subsistence nutrition are met.

Re: old person liking analogy - reading a book is not the same as killing a person.

Your examples are not nearly as smart as they sound in your head.

First thing first, UK colleges offer do not offer integrated BALLB rather they offer LLB without any prior graduate requirement. However if you wish to return back to India, you need to take a 2year bridge course to practice in India. On your secondary doubts, the Shardul Shroff's daughters graduated from a tier 3 UK college in wales. There are good number of partners with tier 2/3 UK graduate degrees. It all depends on a number of factors. If you look forward to work with Indian law firms definitely try for the top 3 NLUs. And no, NLS does not get as much TC as these UK colleges for obvious reasons.

Why bother DYC? What about SS from Cal HC? What about AB from SC while he was on EC? Both looked on while NKC and Co buried all the inquiries that had been initiated by the EC in 2018-20. Doubtful that DD from SC will break from the pattern. When he was in Cal HC in 2014-16, he tasked a retired Cal HC judge (Justice PN Sinha) to do a through inquiry of financial mismanagement by PIB and Co. But that was buried as well. The great Lord Taluk and handpicked Registrars scuttled SJA attempts to have the Justice Sinha Inquiry Report implemented.

Temper your faith in the judicial nominees who adorn the EC. And there is the lived experience of Lord Taluk!

I think they have 50 people. Everyone is down to earth and helpful. Their cafeteria is very small and can sit only 5 ya 6 people. Not a very flashy office like a typical T1. Partners are also nice. Vivek is little silent and humble and works late everyday. Pramod is from SAM. Triyambuk is assentio that merged with KCO and is very friendly and teaches and explains things patiently. A0 is same salary in chennai office and is 1.3L. Wanted to work only in Bangalore but will consider working in chennai if KCO offers. But generally pay is not good in chennai.

How does the work allocation among LI mods take place? Is one given the charge of a single thread so that other mods don't look at it when the latter log in? I'm asking because it's curious how a few threads are left languishing without comments being moderated or published, while some like this one are updated regularly.

How is investing your savings a side hustle? If you were looking to be a part time trader, I would have understood but long term investment won't fetch u the kind of money that you are looking for and is not a side hustle. Expect around 15-20% gains on the amount invested after 2 years.

Has anyone done it? I do not mind getting shouted at in the firm for "low" productivity. I will somehow manage. But what I want to know is whether it is possible? Do u know someone who whilst working in a law firm managed to crack exams like SEBI/RBI/SBI/others. Or should I take a break as soon as I decide to sit for an examination. Kindly advise

It is ready, the campus is Asansol not Siliguri. How NUJS can open branches like this and take in students after CLAT lists are published, we don't know. In fact, we don't even know how a national law school can open so many state branches. But when you see new students suddenly in July in a new "branch" in Asansol - remember you heard it here first! NOOJIES...what is wrong with you? Still fighting about attendance and aircons?

When the credibility and reputation of the NUJS brand and placements could be at stake? 😂

Mumbai good life costs:

- 1 to 4 lakh per month for apartment rent.

- 20 lakhs to 1 crore per year every 5 years for a car

- 30K to 40K per month driver salary

- 30K per month eating out and shopping

- 20K per month essentials

- 50K to 1 lakh per month on swag and bling, depending on your budget

Correct. Associates would prefer saving zero in Mumbai versus saving 30K pm in a tier 2 city. Remember that your lack of savings early on will be compensated once you reach SA/partner level and earn mega crores. There is also the issue of prestige and status. Even if you may save more living in Jaipur and Raipur, it’s a lot more prestigious to stay in Mumbai. There’s quality of life too. You have great restaurants, malls and nightclubs which you don’t have elsewhere. Then at some point you may wish to get married and have kids. The best girls will want to live in Mumbai and you will also want your child to attend a good school in Mumbai.

doing a credit course is not giving back, they get paid for it and usually done during vacation in India, have they started a research collab between their present uni and their undergrad uni? the answer is no.

have they encouraged joint degrees or helped with research proposal, again the answer is no.

that would be giving back where there is no expectation of return, not some credit course.

How many of y'all at CAM ready to quit if this year's increments aren't at par with the market rate?

Since Khaitan has also gone for a substantial hike for this year, "Sir" must think if he's ready to lose more people to "smaller platforms" and the likes of Khaitan

Every meme page is cringe. There are either pages by NLU people that keep on slating Pvt colleges for no reason. Then there are pages by Pvt University lads which are absolutely cringe and they post screenshots of tweets about Indian Law that gets more than 100 likes.

The only 10/10 page I've come across is Litigation God

The fact that you are asking this here, a random anonymous message board mostly consisting of jobless law students, instead of researching on the financials of these entities, or reading brokerage reports, or at the very least reading research notes on MC, should answer your question.

Relax. Life is long. Lots of opportunities will come through. I was in a similar situation last year. Did an LLM and got to a good place in life. I am satisfied with the growth. Not as much as the successful peers of my age, but still very decent. Just do not sit idle. Do something, ON RECORD.

Which law school offers great gym facilities? Do students at law schools have an interest in fitness and gym activities?

Moreover, are there notable individuals within in law schools who excel in fitness and could be highlighted?

(Got intrigued about this topic after reading a recent LI thread on lawfirms having gyms)

I am Graduating in 2024 from Tier-3 College from Mumbai (BBA-LLB). In my 5 years of Law School I have done mutliple Internships mostly in In-house Organizations and a couple of Law firms. My core interests lie in Media and Entertainment Laws, Labour and Employment Laws and IPR. I am Graduating in a month with no job in hand. I have an opportunity to switch to Media and Entertainment industry and work in Digital Marketing and Advertisements. I have always wanted to do something media related but my father forced me to take law. I am now inclined to make the switch, the Initial pay is less, my plan is to gain a couple of years of work experience and do Masters/MBA in Advertising from a reputed college in India/Abroad. Do you think i am making the right decision? Please Advice.

In order to make 6 LPA a year, you need to invest at least 60 LPA. Moreover, the route that you're prescribing won't make liquid income unless you trade in the shares. Dividend alone won't give you anywhere that number. Wealth or portfolio accumulation may be that much provided you invest large sums, but that won't give you liquid money to spend.

Whichever is the cheapest - 9th Gen/10th Gen. No need to go for Air or Pro.

LiquidText is the only main software you need on it (provided you have a proper PDF suite on your laptop for e-filing & other purposes). Plus maybe a note-taking app of your choice.

Just wanted to point something out —- yes, there are nepo kids in his chamber but they are there elsewhere too. Don’t single him out. Also remember that these kids have studied in elite big city schools and their parents have too. At least partly for that reason, they have a strong command of the English language, which is very important. Many nepo kids also have LLB degree from NLUs or at least Jindal (rather than Amity or GLC or Llloyd) and many have LLMs from abroad. So, objectively speaking, these are reasons why an employer would prefer such a candidate over someone from a small-town school with only an BALLB —- unless that person is from a top NLU, has very good grades and has a good command of English. Textbook case in point is the girl from GNLU who ranked 7 in UPSC. She said that she grew up in a remote village and went to a Hindi-medium school till class 5 which had bad infrastructure, but despite that she is so brilliant and obviously writes excellent English essays. Anyway, true talent always succeeds in the long run.

With temperatures soaring to over a staggering 40 degrees Celsius, and the IMD issuing ominous orange alerts for heatwaves, the situation has become nothing short of unbearable for the students of NUJS, purportedly a tier-1 bastion of legal education and excellence.

Despite the desperate pleas of students, the administration's response has been disappointingly apathetic. The excuse of inadequate infrastructure and electric wiring has become a tired refrain, serving as a feeble shield against the glaring reality of student suffering. While other institutions such as NLUJ have swiftly adapted to modern amenities, NUJS remains mired in archaic excuses, leaving its students to swelter in the suffocating heat of neglect.

The SJA, once hailed as a beacon of student advocacy, now finds itself shackled by complacency and compromise. Instead of demanding meaningful change, it settles for the crumbs tossed by an indifferent administration, betraying the very essence of its existence. The spirit of protest that once coursed through the veins of NUJS has been replaced by a resigned acceptance of mediocrity, a far cry from the fervor that ousted the erstwhile VC PIB in 2018.

In a desperate bid for relief during their endsems, students now flock to the air-conditioned sanctuary of the auditorium, their mattresses strewn across the filthy floor in a pitiful attempt to escape the oppressive heat of their hostel rooms. Yet, even this makeshift refuge offers little solace, as the toll of heatstroke and fever ravages the student body with alarming frequency.

As we languish in this heatwave hell, it's time for NUJS to awaken from its slumber of indifference. We cannot afford to remain silent spectators to our own suffering, shackled by the chains of apathy and complacency. It's time to reclaim our voices, to demand the dignity and comfort that every student deserves. Let us rise, not in resignation, but in righteous indignation, and forge a future where the heat of injustice is but a distant memory.

Hi, I myself am visually impaired and have been working at a law firm. That being said my disability is not very visible, so I cannot comment on the prejudice a recruiter may have regarding this. However, one of my batchmates works at a T1 law firm who is physically handicapped. Visibility of their condition was not a barrier. Keep your hopes up !!

It might possibly expose trainees to a more varied set of opportunities for high-quality professional development. I am at law school in England and, while I myself do not have any interest in commercial law, was comparing notes with a fellow Indian student who achieved a TC from A&O before the merger. This student was told, at talks held for future trainees, that there may even be greater opportunities for secondments in the U.S. and higher U.S. dealflows. So I'd say exciting times ahead!

There are very few people in the legal fraternity who truly make you stop and wonder how some people can be so selfless, righteous, respectful, HUMBLE and grounded despite every challenge LIFE puts you through. Ruchit P is one such person. I’m so glad our paths crossed buddy. Godspeed- if you are reading this by any chance,,, know that we are and will always be rooting for you! Never change.

The US has always been a supporter of Israel. Also, there were never such protests when the US bombed Iran and Afghanistan, or protests against China, North Kore and Iran for human rights abuses committed by them. Why this suddenly? Is it because the present generation is more left-wing?

I’m a 4th year law student from Bangalore studying in a private college, I’ve studied science in 11th & 12th grade and switched to law.

I was very passionate about law after interning and learning and wanted to get into corporate and do well however I’ve discover about GEM (graduate entry medicine) a medical course for students who have completed their grad in UK & Australia.

Idk I want to do it remembering how much parents wanted me to get into medicine back in 12th grade but this time I want to be a doctor I’m scared as shit idk what to do I was planning to apply for LLM in the next few months.

I can only speak from my experience as a student at an NLU that could be considered between a tier 1 and tier 2. We had some great professors with brilliant subject knowledge, but many are there who blatantly plagiarize off books and blogs without even citing them as references even in their course outline. One senior professor even plagiarized from iPleaders for her slides. Another was recently called out by immediate junior batch for making up cases. They even produced evidence for use of ChatGPT in her study material.

I believe the ratio of great, mediocre, and bad professors at my university is 10:50:40. After paying lakhs in coaching and now three years of law school, I am coming to regret my decision. Is the scene similar in other NLUs too?

Hello to all the law firm associates (all levels), partners (all kinds) and those who joined litigation in a chamber, hope you are all having a wonderful day!

At some point or the other, you must've dealt with interns and them 'bugging you' for work and the like. What I'm looking for is stories about some interns you all have worked with that made you go "what is this kid on?", whether it be weird behaviour, erratic work product (sometimes good, sometimes not), the sheer audacity and the like. Whatever set them apart, either in a good or bad fashion - you'll know better due to first hand experience. Did you end up hiring that kid?

Let this be a place to share weird stories anonymously to take a break from the animosity each group shows the other on this platform. Who knows? You may end up getting better interns if they read this thread!

To those in law school still, feel free to talk about your co-interns in the same fashion.

What is the scope of a litigation/arbitration (dispute resolution) lawyer overseas? Could you find a job after the LLM?

I have heard about the international arbitration thing, but it is majorly for Paris/Belgium/Singapore.
I would love to hear some insights on these. Are there any lawyers who have done this and can share a bit themselves? Thank you.