Nope, absolutely.

The root if this was from the industrial revolution during which Europe was seized with a heady mix of conflicting influences from the church, the governments and the capitalists during which the labor was cheap because of the general population was largely poor, less educated and looking for opportunities to getting the economic benefits of industrial revolution. Capitalists colluded with the governments and maximized their profits at the cost of cheap but hard labor. In the backdrop of lack of interest either from the government or from the church the labor was taken for granted that led to birth of socialism orchestrated by Carl Marx.

It definitely helped overcome the exploitation of the labor class through socialist/ communist movements that spread and found roots across the world. Now the situation is pretty changed for good with the level of improved knowledge of the social systems among the workers and exploitation is hardly a means achieve any tangible objectives.

So forget about redistribution of resources/ wealth or whatever muck you call it, even your street vendor would pounce at you if you ever talk about govt confiscating someone's wealth for redistribution.

Don’t do LLM in Canada it is same useless as doing LLM in India

Only more expensive

If you want to migrate to canada or get a remote job there, just clear NCA exam, that makes you officially equivalent to a Canadian graduate at half the time and one tenth the cost!

Also once you clear NCA it is super easy to get either a PR or a work permit and land a job as a paralegal or legal assistant

Then you go to canada, appear in the next edition of state bar exams (best is ontario)

All the best 🙌

For the same PQE, the best in-house salaries will be at most 75-80% of top law firm compensations. That said, some Sr. VP (legal) and General Counsels do mint more than some partners. But the time take to make partner (10y PQE) is considerably less than making SVP or GC (15y+ PQE). In house ESOPs can make up for the difference. Some tier 2 firms are better paymasters than tier 1, so can not really have an objective comparison.

"Young people, in particular, are following the Israel-Hamas war on social media and many are horrified by what they see. They’ve also grown up with protest movements — Occupy Wall Street, Black Lives Matter, the Parkland, Fla., students’ gun control campaign — as the backdrop of their lives."

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/24/opinion/chicago-dnc-antiwar-protests.html

100% relevant for India. College students in India have grown up under Modi's rule and seeing the CAA protests and farm protests, plus following international events on social media like BLM, Gaza and racism under Trump. Just a matter of time before college campus here become full-on protest zones.

If you can get the internship, you will realise that he is a very humble and hardworking lawyer. An internship is something that matters only if you make it work in your favor, be it at the higher chambers or lower.

That said, the work is immense and you will usually find yourself in the backoffice doing research like you would do at any other internship.

2 year PQE, 20+lpa, top 6 NLU?

Join if you do not have a better alternative. In-house salary progression depends on your initial joining payscale as the yearly increment in percentage terms are nowhere near law firms. That being said, in-house pay varies across industries and size of the organisation. Service sector will pay more than manufacturing. Advisory role will pay more than managing litigations. Make sure that you learn as much as you can in the initial months and make yourself useful in every situation. When asking for a hike, the organisation will only look at how replaceable you are. So it helps to be irreplaceable.Also be clear about CTC and pay progression roadmap for at least two years. Many companies mess around with CTC, non-CTC components and in the end there might not even be an increase in your in-hand pay.

Keep upskilling yourself in areas of interest if the current job is not in an area of your interest. One thing to keep in mind is switching jobs will always result in a higher salary than sticking to one organisation. Ideally move quickly (within 2-3 years) initially and then slow down once you reach middle management levels. Aim for 10+ lpa within the next 2 years either by negotiating a hike or switching to a better paymaster.Wish you all the best.

F&M as in which one? The new or the old? The newer one has more corporate work in Kol than the OG.

Citadel does commercial and corporate litigation mostly. The firm is run by ex-Argus founding partner, right? You can get a lot of gen corp work there but again the firm has been touted to be a difficult place to work at.

I am quite certain today that most who throng this forum are kids. Wise kids are comparing the ethical ways of getting clients by Partners to straight up looting the taxpayer by IRS.

God bless this country if people like you, by some stroke of luck, make it to civil services.

If you do this, the rich will simply put their wealth into trusts with a dedicated lineage of beneficiaries. And this will avoid paying any tax whatsoever. Most rich people already transfer wealth through trusts.

Therefore, nothing will really be collected from the inheritance of rich people. Of course, this can be corrected if the movement of wealth to trusts is taxed. However, doing this will undoubtedly open a different can of worms vis-à-vis financial sponsor investments and other aspects of corporate laws. Therefore, I highly doubt this will be done.

For the middle class and poor, who already don't have much, and either cant afford private client lawyers and estate planners for putting things into trust or will not have the knowledge to do so, will lose money under this mechanism. Effectively, people who have very little will lose the most.

This reminds me of the minimum balance fiasco, where the lowest of the low lost butt-loads of money to the banks owing to either lack of wealth or knowledge.

And in any case, its not like there will be a direct transfer of wealth. Irrespective of who is in the government, the recovered wealth will largely either be directly pocketed by our public servants or largely distributed to capitalist friends of the government or a mix of both.

These plans seem nice on paper but hardly have any effect! Populism will truly be the death of all of us. The early years of our democracy clearly shows that when the government comes for a big chunk of public money (that time it was through insane income taxes), the government really does not get the money, people just engage in corruption!

But what do I know!

2 cents on fees and placement.

Kya din aa gaye hai.. Until sometime back, people used to question the fees of Jindal, but now a new private institute has been set up which is charging even more, so Jindal's fees is being used a base reference point!

For everyone's benefit, recent news reports suggest that even IITs are finding it difficult to place their students, so to rely on BITS legacy for placing students in law firms, it will be extremely hypothetical underwriting. So please don't count on it.

I am not scared of people having a level playing ground. I even bought a copy of Taxmann's Company Law Manual for a friend who told me that he could not afford it right now. I understand that not everyone can afford to buy expensive books, but then shouldn’t those people borrow the books from the library? My law school’s library has 3 to 4 copies of nearly every law book imaginable.

So what if they have made huge profits? The law is still the law. If a poor person steals food from the pantry of a 5-star hotel, do we let him go just because the hotel earns a lot of profit and will not be materially affected by the theft?

Let me give you another example. Suppose you have a very old relative under your constant care. Suppose he does not pay any net taxes nor does he contribute to society in any way. Would killing him be justified?

LI can’t censor because the case is now a matter of public record. But the politics behind the case is fascinating. On the one hand, NKC is desperate to appease the TMC to get an extension and there is a likelihood of an increase in domicile quota and two new campuses after the elections. On the other hand, we have a case that could lead to him being denied an extension. Note here that Justice Chanda was a BJP member and convenor of the BJP state legal cell before becoming a judge, so his stance will be interesting. Also, if the BJP gains seats after the elections they may begin to fish in troubled waters and go after NKC.

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After elections. It is expected that the TMC will suffer a setback and then Mamata will go on full populist mode, which will include 2 new campuses and a possible hike to 70% domicile reservation. NKC will oblige her because he wants an extension. Needless to say, this will reduce the funding and also the cosmopolitan character (whatever is left of it) of the NUJS Kolkata campus. The SJA is deliberately apathetic, because they are willing to sacrifice the interests of the college in exchange for high grades.

Interestingly, this comes at a time when the Calcutta High Court has cancelled 25,000 state government school teacher recruitments because of mass corruption, while the education minister is in jail in connection with this same scam. The question to ask is whether NUJS has been immune to the corruption taking place in the state, or are there lots of skeletons in the closet? If the latter, shouldn’t Chandrachud be alerted?

At GLC, students find out their favourite area of practice by literally working in that area of practice. GLC is literally a 10 minute walk away from literally all firms in India. GLC has partners and managing partners at these firms. You must be kidding your self if you think BITS Alumni network is better than GLC in Law. GLC kids intern atleast 8 months in one year, thats 40 months even before they graduate, plenty of time to literally explore each area of practice there is to, and not by listening to lectures but getting to do work, which everyone is essentially going to do after graduation.

BITS Law Mumbai is not even in Mumbai. It's literally in Kalyan which reduces its Mumbai advantage to zero. It is 1.5 hours train journey away from Parel Offices of Law Firms and 2 hours train journey away from the Litigation Practices and Bombay High Court. They are making sure to advertise it as being in Mumbai and not writing anywhere that it actually is in Kalyan. The interim campus as well is in Powai which is although a posh locality, it has very poor connectivity and the Mumbai locational advantage is a farce.

Background: 4th sem LLB student (3 years)

Woke up this morning to check the notification from college placement cell regarding the candidates who made it through the CV selection round in a Tier 1 firm's internship recruitment drive. My name wasn't there, despite having all the pre requisites and academical cut off. Got a taste of competitive reality check that made me realise ki "bhai itne se to nai hoga, more hours to be put in". Its 7:30 in the morning and I'm trying to let go of this emotional baggage of expectations that I had from myself, perhaps due to the fact that this is my first rejection while applying for a tier 1 firm despite coming so close.

Folks I plan to join Gen Corp teams of Tier 1 firm, though exhausting as many worthy contributors have already mentioned here before, I wish to have first hand experience in the pressure cooker myself. The domain of corporate and commercial laws interest me. How shall I go ahead about it? shall I productively utilise my connections to land a one month internship in such firms and convert it into a call back/long term? how often does that happen when you don't join as a long term intern at a place?

Or, for the starters, I should join a Tier 2-3 firm in the same domain and learn the work. Maybe in a boutique firm where chances of acceptance is more. Can you folks suggest me places to start and apply in Delhi-NCR (Gurgaon) in the same domain?

any advice, suggestions or blunt two cents would be appreciated. Thanks for patiently reading till the end.

Hey folks, I hope you guys are keeping well. I recently couldn't get through the CV selection phase in my college's Tier 1 long term internship recruitment drive. Despite having the desired percentage cut off and other pre requisites, I still couldn't make it. I was quite confident to at least clear the CV selection phase and was really looking forward to it but got a taste of competitive reality check. Nevertheless, I wish to pursue my career in the field of corporate law and still confused how to go ahead about it. Need some advice from you folks regarding approaching this, your inputs will be of great help.

Considering being in my 4th semester (3 years LLB), I wish to either join a tier 1 firm in the domain of gen corp so that can get acquainted with the work and convert that into a long term assesemnt internsip.

Secondly, if this seems to be quite not a possability as of now, maybe i can join a tier 3 or any other boutique firm in the same domain such M&A, due diligence and other

Not really. We can have tax slabs where people below a sudden level of assets will not be charged any tax, then 10%, 20%, and finally a max slab of 45-50%.

Inheritance tax will go a long way in correcting wealth inequality. There are maharajas in Rajasthan who live their entire life on generational wealth. This will make them work and will ultimately benefit the society.

https://twitter.com/chehendriksen/status/1783102892552888825?t=kfb8PC6sDAozdEDS8eE7DA&s=19

Not only legal, but Moderna is using it as a tool for many of its other teams as well. They are currently using 400 'custom' gpt chat bots!

Intern even after passing out. Look for a T2 or even T3( being from du will help )firm and start interning there stick with them and you might land a job. You can also join an LLM if you along with it. Placement for us 3yr LLB students are just a joke but we have to make the best out of it.

All the best tho

Check this out:

https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/354296-list-of-nlu-and-prominent-private-universities-and-tlcs-post-2000-graduates-currently-teaching-law-in-india

what is really strange is that from thge list shared by everyone I count around 50 indian law graduates who are teaching abroad (supermajority with nlu undergrdaute) however if you count the number of law teachers in India with nlu undegrad it is less than two dozen!!

which means that there are more academics with nlu undergrad teaching outside india than in India

if the argument is that the IDF represents all of israel and that Hamas represents all of palestinians- thats a remarkably amoral way of approaching the problem. If that were indeed true- why would anyone be persuaded to have sympathy for either side? why should anyone care about this conflict if there were no innocent civilians on either side?

Just got an offer from a company for 5lpa as part of an in house team and i'm from a tier 3 priv college, to those that are in an in-house legal team, what's your pqe, how much do you make and what college are you from?

Also if there are any seniors here that can provide valuable advice for career growth prospects, pls share your insights here!

Ok I have got NLU Nagpur adjudication but i am also preparing for CUET BHU because i am left with nothing for next few months and i am targeting BHU. I want to go for judiciary but i also think that i will switch course to bba llb in Nagpur to look for corporate also as I want to explore it also.

Good for you. Well on your way to becoming a pariah in your law school already. The academic publishers already make a huge profit, especially considering that they barely pay any real royalty to the authors, no money to the reviewers and little money to the editors. You're not fighting for justice here, quite to the contrary.

Well, Jagteshwar Sohi, Ajay Sangai, Kapur, Utkarsh Leo, and Chinmayi Deshmukh taught at NALSAR for between a few semesters to five plus years.

Danish Sheikh and Mohsin Alam Bhat offered electives. Shailesh Kumar and Anjali Rawat TA’d there.

So, they have all given back more than the person who wrote this unnecessary comment and the idiots that piled on the likes without bothering to know/determine the facts.

Sabhi bade log duniya ke liye kaam karke bade bante hai

1. Shahrukh Khan - Entertaining Masses

2. Amartya Sen - Economist working for masses

3.DYC - Electroral Bonds, Queer Support

4. Virat Kohli - Face of Indian Cricket

5. College Toppers - Society does not care

As mentioned by another comment in this thread, there is a person from NALSAR B/O'24 who has secured placement in an excellent litigation firm despite being discriminated against by so-called 'Tier 1' law firms. I have had my disagreements with him but I can attest that he is extremely sincere, hardworking, and full of motivation. He was recently featured on the NALSAR LAOT Courts and Constitution Conference's Shamnad Basheer Memorial Roundtable on Disability and Law. I highly suggest you watch it, as I think it can offer a lot of positive perspective on your question. Best of luck for everything and more power to you!!

Starts around the 5:13:00 mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7y6uQoY02k

The NHRC has released a new report titled that spans two very critical subject areas - Forensic Science and Human Rights. This is a great example of the collaborative effort between NHRC and NFSU. The foreword of this report is by Justice Arun Mishra, Chairperson, NHRC.

Download the report....https://nhrc.nic.in/sites/default/files/Fotrensic_Sc_HR_Book_2024_0.pdf

Enjoy, and utilize this to trigger new ideas for research and application.