so 5 people who are members of BJP are not being attacked means there is no discrimination?

same shazia was being attacked by supporters of PM modi beofre joining BJP.

Also, pakistan is a failed theocratic state, i'd rather not compare my country to it.

situation of minorities is bad in Pakistan, no one denies it, also let's not talk about Kaneria, the only thing he is known for is match fixing, and his bitterness is showing, he has realized that by making such statements he will attract large bhagwa crowd and get a paycheck from x.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/aap-candidate-shazia-ilmi-attacked/article5910817.ece

Totally avoid SR. Too much attitude. Keeps rescheduling sessions and won’t accommodate your request. Still remember Sammanika taking credit for an internship my friend secured at a T1 all on her own even before availing any service from her.

Aashna seems like a nice person but very generic information you will get from her. If you are a beginner and have 0 clue regards application process/ drafting CV, only then you may try.

I had recently received a advice from my known friend to pay his known acquaintance a sum of 2k to 4k --> for landing a T1-2 internship at reputed law firms.I wanted to know as to whether anyone has tried this before? The guy who promise to do so is disguised as reputed Legal article/blog publishers and has boarded few law firm partners in his editorial board.I feel he might have some connection established with those partners not monetary relation in type profit sharing but a understand of maybe recommending interns. Though my friend inst that he guarantee of 100% internship I am unsure about it.

I have already interned @ T2 firms shall I proceed with such opportunity?

Any guidance would be appreciated.

Regards

ChhotaNLUite

Be clear MDA or NDA.

If it's NDA then adjust from customary clauses i.e. gov.law, disputes look for :

Nature of information - certain specific info and also any info prescribed in any law be treated as confidential.

Time period - for his long the info be kept confidential.

Disclosing party's obligations and rights to safeguard the info. And remedies on info being available from receiving party the obligations shouldn't be contrary to law and restricted only to the extent of professional dealing.

That before making available the info public receiving party shall inform disclosing party.

I'm aware of people in my own firm who do manage to have control over their fitness regimens - I think it's entirely possible. As corporate lawyers, we may not be able to have it all, but at least we'll have our health, and hopefully some savings (despite living in Bombay :'))

Stop doomscrolling. Fix your sleep schedule gradually. Make it so you wake up at least an hour earlier. Contrary to your opinion that working out will tire you out, it will actually give you that extra energy. Ever heard of a runners' high? Or heard people tell you not to work out too close to your bedtime? The right exercise GIVES you energy. Even 20 mins consistently everyday before work should suffice as a start.

First thing is to fix your sleep schedule though. You'll end up depressed before you're overweight lol.

1) HSA (Midsized T2 firm with great project financing and IBC work)

2) Link Legal (Midsized T2 firm with great project financing and IBC work)

3) Dhir & Dhir (Midsized T2 firm with great project financing and IBC work)

4) SNG & Partners (top heavy boutique specializing in B&F and blue chip DCM work)

5) Trilegal (Gurgaon office primarily indulges in project financing work so thats a sweet spot)

6) Khaitan (SS is super high quality and extremely smart; knows how to think beyond the given)

7) JSA (Gurgaon office does a mix of corporate financing and debt restructuring work across teams)

8) L&L (KM and GR are gems to work with and are known to have a very jolly culture in their teams)

9) Phoenix Legal (Decent work but the B&F partner is difficult to work with; tread with peril here)

10) Desai & Diwanji (Gurgaon does advisory work in M&A and acts as a support group for the Mumbai B&F/GC verticals so thats something worth considering)

So folks shouting allah hu akbar should also stop? because terrorists use it all the time no?

Do you think oct 7 was a terrorist act? or do you think the rape of women and murder of babies is legitimate resistance? we dont need to appeal to authority when we can simply look at actions to decide no?

Corp/M&A: AZB - Aswath Rau team, Mumbai

PE: SAM Raghubir Menon team, Mumbai

TMT: Trilegal - Rahul Mathan team, Bangalore

Capital Markets: IndusLaw - Manan Lahoty team, Mumbai

Competition: SAM Delhi team

Projects/Banking and Finance: L Vishwanathan team, Mumbai

Any of these internships, you will be in the top tier of your college. If you have more than one, then you'll be leagues ahead of your batch.

Corporate law is hardly the be-all-and-end-all that you're making it out to be. I would have done thing very differently if I knew what I know now - I would have probably done an MBA and tried for consulting or PE or IB. In my opinion, the work they do is more interesting than corporate law work, where we are just typing monkeys. However, I didn't know about these opportunities when I was in college (or for 1 - 2 years after I started working), and I graduated from what you would now call a "tier 1" law school.

Don't let the kids on LI make it seem like its butterflies and rainbows or that they're dealing with the high and the mightly or that they are the movers and shakers of large transasactions. They are none of that. They're typing away a clause or formatting an agreement at 1am in their cubicle - something that no one else will ever read. Most kids with 2/3 years of work experience don't know their arse from their elbow.

You're right now blinded by what seems snazzy from the outside. "M ampersand A" sounds cool but it is drab work with uncertain hours and mind numbing due diligence. As a corporate law firm lawyer, you are always obsequious with your clients; its lovely to hear (good) practising lawyers speak with their clients, like an equal and without any timidity.

If you're willing to work hard, then there are so many other professional avenues where you can make more money for the same amount of effort. For example, I have a colleague (I work in a PE fund) who studied in rural Rajastan in a Hindi medium school but he studied hard, was a CA ranker, and then went to one of the top IIMs. His English may not be polished but he is clearly a smart guy and will do well with time.

You have to play the cards you're dealt - not hope for another hand. Stop feeling like a victim and start doing what you can to reach you goal, whatever that may be. If you are an English speaking graduate then you are already luckier than 85% of Indians (at the very least). Be grateful for what you have and stop whining about what you don't.

Not sure why you assumed my gender :)

Tech services/consulting - Accenture, Capgemini and the like. Key words to search jobs: I'm not sure what you mean here but typically you would use keywords that correspond to the skill sets that you may have. For e.g. contract management, e-discovery etc.

Mahua Moitra seen flashing a Rolex Lady Datejust (https://x.com/iyervval/status/1727187150448595416). Her ex, has publicly alleged that luxury watches were being handed out. Clearly elite lawyer circles do place value on luxury watches, jewellery etc. Ambitious T1 lawyers (and future partners/rainmakers) are cultivating such interests and building their own collections.

But here on LI, it's heresy to even bring it up. In fact, I think it's good to see SAs/PAs also starting their collecting journeys. Anonymous trolls want the new generation to be subtle and xonservative,

Bullshit. This isn't complicated. Hamas is implementing its charter to annihilate the Jews. I am no expert in Islamic theology, but they have coopted soldiers into this movement through an interpretation of Islam that, unfortunately, resonated with them. Checks and balances on this count failed, as they often do in poor, Muslim-dominated areas. No dearth of examples from Pakistan/India. The perceived loss of territory, owing primarily to an unwillingness to settle, driven purely by Palestinian realpolitik, exacerbated the situation. Call it a blessing in disguise—Israel has grounds to flush out Hamas for good and an opportunity to introduce governance of the kind that would restore the dignity of every Palestinian.

Grit is a rare virtue, and we, as Indians, would do well to imbibe it into our day-to-day lives.

I'm a recent grad from one of the T1 NLUs working as an A0. I know AIBE is supposed to be a sham and super easy, but just wanted to get everyone's perspective - how are we supposed to prep for this exam? Just read the table of content of all the bare acts we're allowed to carry? Do the past year exams? Not sure exactly what to expect - everyone just says it's super easy.

Thanks!

I realise that B&F teams in T1/T2/T3 firms have a humoungous volume of work, but I'm looking to make a switch. Would appreciate if anyone can give some suggestions of any B&F teams (in preferably T1/T2 firms in Delhi) which aren't trademarked for their toxicity. Have 2 years of PQE.

It is nobody's claim that everything Israel does is above reproach. In fact, no war, like the ongoing one in Gaza, can produce an error-free outcome. However, there is a problem with the stated goal of Hamas, which has not been removed from its charter to date—that is, the aim to bring about the annihilation of the Jews. When such a goal is pursued, I will support Israel.

Agree with most of what you said, subject to pointing out that Hamas is not recognised as a terrorist organisation yet by India and that JSR has been politically and socially coloured to almost drown its religious and spiritual connotations and that not only radical elements but a not so inconsiderable size of the population use it currently to score political or worse, communal points.

Hey, OP here. Thanks thanks a lot sir. Could you please tell namr of some tech service companies or any other relevant in-house where I could search job on linkedin matching my profile? Or some key words to search jobs that will take me to those companies? Yes Big4 offering me senior consultant job but salary not much than what I am getting now. Please reply when you get time.

Suspended my bar registration when I switched to an in house position. Mahrashtra bar council has not taken back my certificate or identity card. The only thing that matters is payment of the prescribed fees and continuos follow ups to get the "non-practicing" certificate

So I consulted Aashna (also my senior from college) and then I consulted Akanksha (from ‘To Whom It May Concern’) and there was a sea of difference in the guidance I received. Aashna’s guidance was what I could have gotten from any senior and Akanksha’s was very detailed and industry specific. She had a recruiter’s perspective which I thought made all the difference. Some friends from GNLU had recommended her strongly and she honestly helped me a lot throughout my internships and job interviews. This was a couple of years back though. I have heard good things about Rishabh Chopra (NLUJ alum) from Vahura also.

Son of Holocaust victims exposes US and Israel by writing a book and exposes Zionist propaganda that is hurting Jews across the world.

The Holocaust Industry by Norman G. Finkelstein: 9781781685617 | PenguinRandomHouse.com: Books

District two years. High Court one. You are a junior, stay like a junior and act like a junior, i.e. you do not take up any case in your private capacity. However do talk with the clients and make them aware that you will be moving to the SC. After 3 years exp, any SC lawyer would take you on broad easily. Start preparing for the AoR exam. Crack it. And you're done. Hundreds of people have done it. It's not rocket science. Most of these responses are from NLU firm walas who look down upon working in district court. Trust me when I say a 2 year experience in DC is so much better on the CV, as majority people including those who come from top colleges jump directly into SC and have no rats ass clue as to how to even file an FIR.

DC-HC-SC is the ultimate way to go... All that matters is you don't linger around in DC and HC for more than 2 years.

The other way is possible if you're still in your first year. If you're seriously interested in litigation. Like that's all you want to do. Do all your internships in the DC & HC. That would mean atleast 3-4 in DC and 2-3 in HC. And then you can directly join SC once you graduate.

The way it's done in DU and GLC is that they intern all their 3 years post classes. So by the time they graduate from 3 years. They already have the same experience of 2 years in DC and 1 year in HC. So that's why they immediately join SC. Trust me DC experience goes a long way in SC. Including in the eyes of your peers and seniors in SC

@above : Do you go to court and have your won matters ?

You may be as old London Bridge and your dad would have been PM- it does not make a difference. But do you have own matters ? Or are you a corporate lawyer? How many matters have you argued ? How many bails have you taken ? How mnay injunctions have you argued ?

Issue with Law Firms in India is that:-

1) There are only few of them and hence they run their own show. Needless to mention, the community is tight knight and due to which it becomes a challenge for jobseekers and those who are working with them. I am sure, the conscience of professionals in law firm feel suffocated a lot of times.

2) Even if candidates like me get a Masters from NLUs then also, firms will not allow us an entry. Law firms in India have highly restrictive policies. I am not sure why calibre of a person has to be judged from internships Solely.

At this point of time, law students in this country are absolutely gaga over internships. So much for internships that most of the students are hardly even picking up textbooks.

3) Restrictive policies of Firms immediately make such jobs SCARCE and ELITE . It becomes a job for which there is only one GOLDEN chance and GOLDEN GATE.

Compare this with open market and free policy of someone like a computer science graduate ? The job market is so free .

Hi OP. I am an RP at the same firm, gurgaon office though. I understand where you are coming. I had similar issues for the longest time, although I never felt alone - my friends and family love me :) I did however feel that I will not find someone who vibes with me. I went berserk on tinder, meeting 1 new person every week on an average for an entire year. Those were great times. As cocky as it may sound, I was having a blast! But ofcourse I wasnt ready to commit to just anyone. I finally finallt met someone when I was 33. I have been dating for 2 years now and have moved in with her. All during the aforesaid 33 years, i have made unconventional choices, and have been judged, but I didnt care much.

Point I am trying to make - go with option 1, have a baby alone. That will be a lot easier to manage than you think it is. I am assuming you have a family (retired mom dad would be best) close or at least who can relocate for sometime, after your maternity leave ends. Having a baby will be immensely immensely satisfying.

Option 2 - that you can anyways do even after having the baby alone. If you are destined to find the right guy, you will find him before or after option 1. Shouldnt make a difference.

I have heard that generally speaking Khaitan Co is one of the better T1 firms specifically from a working hours and culture perspective. I have also heard the exact opposite and that the hours are terrible.

For GC/M&A teams can anyone shed light on the number of working hours at A0-A2 levels?

Also what is the time most teams have to come in during the day?

Mumbai and Delhi offices please.

Also how is the culture? Nice seniors who want you to become better or not really?

Would appreciate any help

Hi, I'm an A0 at a Tier 1 firm in Bombay. My day involves 10-12 hours of sitting at my desk during work hours. Post work hours, all I have the motivation to do is go home, scroll through my phone mindlessly till 2am, scurry to wake up and get to work the next day. Rinse, repeat.

Previously, I've always led a fairly active and athletic lifestyle - going to the gym, home workouts, playing sports in college. This has also always formed an integral part of my personality. For the past 5 months however, fitness has been put on the backburner, and this has started to manifest itself through weight gain. Recently, when I went home for Diwali, some relatives also commented on this. The weight gain, and the knowledge that other people are noticing the weight gain, has affected my self-esteem, and I feel disconnected with the person i used to be - healthy and active.

I know, however, that it is entirely possible to integrate some fitness elements into my lifestyle. I'm just struggling to figure out how to do so at the moment. The following are my core issues:

1. Waking up early: The timings that I return home allow for workouts to be done only in the morning before work. However, given that I've been doomscrolling till 2am for the past 5 months, my sleep cycle is now such that I am unable to fall asleep before 2am. This allows me to barely wake up by around 8am, which allows me to reach office by 9:30-10:00am, and takes away any scope of getting a workout in in the morning.

2. Energy levels: I am very committed to my work, and want to make sure that there is no compromise in my ability to perform. I worry that working out may tire me out, and I may not be able to maintain the energy levels required to perform well on the job.

3. Availability and types of workout: While there is a gym in my office building, I would prefer not to use it in light of the fact that a bunch of people from office do, and I would just like to feel removed from work and work-esque environments during my personal time. There are also very few gyms around my house, and the ones that are close in proximity charge exorbitantly. In such a scenario, should I suck it up and use the gym in my office building, or are there other things that I can do for my fitness apart from using gyms at all?

Motivation: After pulling off work days, I just don't seem to have the energy or the motivation to push myself some more and work out.

I come to the LI and corporate law veterans for some advice. If you've been there, done that, or if you have any tips in general, please help a junior out, and please be kind.

Drop a line / ur email here:-

https://www.secretmessage.link/secret/655d9519e1c2d/

(By the way, telegram can be anonymous too. It does not have glitches)

Yes, going independent is a very tough curve ball. Infact, EXITING from senior's chamber is as equally important than ENTERING.

I also agree that almost every lawyer has dreams to scale the mountain from Trial Court -> HC -> SC , but it rarely happens . One big reason is that, if your own independent matters start picking up in Trial Court, then you wont really find time to network/ take on more work load and burden of other Courts especially in today's time when litigation is not preferred path of many grads and Juniors are expecting payments too (including me).

In a nutshell, directly hitting Commercial / IPR litigation in Delhi HC makes sense. Its a hack.

I have a message for Professor Sameena Dalwai, if she's reading:

1. A university is not meant to be a space for political indoctrination.

2. No professor should shut down voices contrary to theirs.

3. Hamas is a terrorist organisation and the Israel-Palestine issue is not as black and white as the left is making it out to be.

4. Jai Shri Ram is an age-old, religious slogan. The slogan itself cannot become offensive because radical elements use it. By that logic, the same can be said of slogans from Islam and Sikhism.

5. The word "ch***ya" may be a synonym for "fool", but it is a vulgar synonym, similar to saying

"dumbf**k" instead of "fool". Such words should never be used by professors against student.

6. Showing dating profiles of students, or outing students with dating profiles, is never acceptable and a gross violation of privacy and teaching ethics.

Thank you.

You know several truths can exist at once, and If Israel actually stops the violent onslaught among the Palestinians, the Hamas would not be able to establish high levels of their propaganda. But eh you all are too dumb to understand a simple concept, several truths can co-exist at once.

How does that even matter if you are a trainee/associate? Being presentable and clean matters at that point with the quality of work. It is only after the first 2 years when you have something stable and going, that you should start spending so much on such stuff because you meet the clients etc.

@the guy who wrote "@above": I'm 3 decades old in the profession and have about a dozen friends who are judicial officers! My dad was in the IAS!

Started out in Capital Markets at one of the leading Indian law firms 6 years back and trust me the mundane form of this practice makes you brain clogged, burnt out and crazy day by day. Drafting the same kind of chapters in the DRHP, negotiating complex carve-outs/putting a facade in front of the same blue chip bankers and very high expectations to deliver in the shortest time possible for a fixed cost is not worth it. It had got to the point where I spent my youth simply sitting in front of the SEBI website and swinging excel pages; fixing comments and attending never ending calls doing the same silly shit for the same shitty offer document. Lost touch with my parents and friends and kept getting miserable day by day.

Switched to Corporate/M&A at another T1 firm after a year and I am doing pretty well over there. Now although I struggled with research initially (since you practically don't indulge in hardcore research in ECM/DCM deals) but my sharp business acumen and due diligence discipline (which ECM thoroughly builds in you) made the toughest negotiations seem like chalk and cheese as against my peers in the same team; which has helped me take up client calls without any form of stringent partner policing at large.

So, while the cons are marginally more than the pros of working in a mind numbing practice like that of capital markets, playing to the strengths of the game and figuring out an exit is the way forward to life I guess. Won't recommend capital markets to anybody - more specifically to the new trend of law students taking up this path thinking that its easier to get placed blah blah blah.

Wishing you the best and hope things get better for you. Take good care and seek help, if required.

My sincere apologies for this long ass reply but I hope it helped.

I am a qualified lawyer working on AI to develop solutions for law firms. I wanted to get a sense of the extent of penetration/ user adoption of AI in law firms. Are tier-one firms developing (or have they developed) their own proprietary AI tools or are they leaning on third-party tools? What are the popular AI tools that are already being put to use? What are their use case shortcomings? As an entrepreneur, what use case should I address first?

Give me your wish list! I want to work towards developing solutions that make your life better.

Unliveable cities all of them.

Delhi: Toxic air, aggressive people, horrible traffic.

Mumbai: Worst traffic of all. Very very expensive.

Bengaluru: Bad traffic and pollution as well, increase in Kannada regionalism fuelled by all political parties.

All the three cities: Tough to get children admitted to the best schools, impossible to join good clubs if you want to play tennis or go swimming, only option is to go to resorts based faraway in the outskirts or live in a very expensive gated community.

Delhi is the hub for litigation and corporate. Bombay is a distant no 2 and this is evident by the extent of Bombay talent that has migrated to and is migrating to Delhi. Sure there is capital markets, private equity and mna work of significant consequence there, but doesn't outstrip Delhi - in terms of breadth of quality work. The litigation bar is going seriously Marathi Manus even in terms of attitude/ work ethic - worrying. The Parsi work culture is next to dead at the Bombay bar. Blr is not even in the reckoning. No work of significance happens in any T1 office there, except maybe Trilegal or JSA 5 years ago. Hyderabad and Chennai offer vessels to many T1 firms through various local up-and-coming counsels, who use the T1 branding to their advantage, only to eventually move on. No T1 firm has any form of demonstrated staying power in either of these two cities. Only land-due diligences happening at T1 Hyd offices, with some amount of related litigation.

Pune has no work of significance. Only AZB has an outpost there, which for all practical purposes is a support office for AZB Mumbai. Only grunt due diligence support work. I believe that's even the case with its Blr office. No pay parity for sure.

Ahmedabad is something to look out for. Some law firms are trying their luck out there at GIFT City, but it will need a harder push to attract talent from across India (if that's even a goal there).