I don't understand why should marks matter? There is no standard process of examination among all universities. Some unis may be more lenient while setting the question papers and giving marks so the CGPA of two students (assuming both are equally good at work) who are being assessed for PPO from different universities will differ. Its still fine for campus placements.

I am a first gen lawyer from a Tier 3 NLU, graduated in 2022, Working at a litigation firm in Delhi. The work hours are 14 hours a day and no weekend off.

Should I continue despite being burned out or continue? ( the work is great and my family is happy to support me for litigation plans, I am privileged)

Please suggest any alternate work options for me? Work-life balance is my priority.

Ha ha, his name isn't "Joe". It was misheard. It's "Job". He became a meme as "Nalsar Joe" but he's having the last laugh as a very wealthy and successful lawyer in London. On the other hand, I don't think the Sadhguru fanboys in the audience amounted to much.

How do you know whether the IDF is solely targeting Hamas? Are you in the territory yourself? Have they presented evidence of the death of Hamas personnel in all of their strikes? You are just parroting the Israeli propaganda, nothing else. Knowing well that civilians including children are the ones who are bearing the brunt of the attacks, if one still continues with it, then that's not responsible behaviour, especially from a nation state. We get it that you don't care about Palestinian lives so long as Hamas people die, but what's this strange obsession on your part that everyone has to mandatorily subscribe to your bloodthirsty ideology?

In the event you are still looking for answers:

AIBE is quite honestly a cakewalk. It is easy. If you can manage the same however, do try and attempt a paper or two (you could get the past papers online, I guess), and IF POSSIBLE, try to do the same within the actual time-limit and in the actual setting. AIBE is less about preparing for the exam, and more about how you take the exam.

BEFORE THE EXAM/ EXAM-PREP
1. Read the contents of the Bare Acts.

2. This might sound as if I am pulling your leg, but in all honesty, know the names of the Acts which you would be carrying

3. I had put flags/ Post-It type notes on the first page of the Bare Acts I was carrying. This helped me pick out the one which I really wanted for a particular question, instead of having to turn to the cover-page. Saved me a ton of time

4. As stated earlier, try and attempt 1-2 past papers. The answers- you might not even have to reach out to the Bare Act/s. OMR sheet marking EATS into those three hours.

5. Be prepared to attempt some questions pertaining to landmark judgements.

DAY OF THE EXAM/ DURING THE EXAM

Naturally, carry the necessary documents, stationery material, etc.

1. Reach your centre early. Gives you time to set up your workspace the way you want it. Setting out 15+ Bare Acts in the most easily accessible manner, given the space constraints at some centres is no joke.

2. Be very careful and meticulous in filling up the necessary details on the OMR sheet.

3. No negative marking. So attempt every question.

4. Keep an eye on the watch. Time does seem to go veeeeery slow in the first 2 hours, and within a flash, it is time to turn in your OMR sheet.

Is Cyril Amarchand a real person? Is Cyril Sheriff a real lawyer? Is he a lawyer or a businessman who sells lawyers? Aasma hai neela kyu? Paani geela kyu? Will Rishabh Cyril be able to survive one Cyril Sorabjee is "no more"? Will Cyril Soli improve the lives of people by being "no more"? Will Cyril Amarchand be offended reading this from his ivory tower, and ignore the fact that the practices promoted by him and culture fostered by him have lead to the health of many a lawyer being trashed? Quantum physics why go whoosh over head? Melody itni chocolatey kyu hai? Why first year law student write every thought howsoever coherent, down as a Legally India thread?

I was in a rubber room once

I'm gonna be very honest with you and I've a very privileged take and i admit it on the forefront. My suggestion is to not give a shit about who's having which political ideology and the need to have one in general. It's not worth it and it's a fucking hassle to choose one side. My life is short enough and i couldn't bother anyway on which wing should I represent. Think about it why would you even take shit and anxiety which is associated with this shi. Am I selfish and a privilege bastard for this take.? Absolutely and i couldn't care less it keeps me sane and happy and away from all the negativity. Suggesting you to adopt the same.

Recently, I sat for an internship interview at a T1 firm. The HR asked me about my CLAT rank, and once I said, she kept on questioning why it is so low. Mind you, I am studying at a T1 NLU and have an above-average class rank. Is it a way for firms to filter out SC/ST students?

The IDF is solely targeting Hamas and is diligently adhering to the rules of war in its actions. Yes, the execution is far from perfect. But was there a choice? Hamas is using human shields and critical infrastructure like schools and hospitals to hide and carry out their ops!

I've observed numerous discussions on this topic on Legally India, and not a single comment has delved into the rules of war—a codified protocol that must be followed during such conflicts. Surprisingly, there isn't even one informed debate on this crucial aspect. What does this lack of discourse reveal about the current state of our so-called intelligentsia, which lawyers typically represent?

I believe that live conflicts like this should prompt us to temper our emotions and biases, dive deeper into exploring the relevant international laws, and actually apply them on a case-by-case basis. Please study these rules (rules of war) and then present an informed point of view - on whether IDF conducted an operation at, say a hospital, in compliance with such rules.

Indulging in loose analogies, whataboutery, and sweeping statements is the hallmark of intellectual shallowness and ignorance.

Not giving my unconditional support to anyone who deliberately kills children. The end does not justify the means. That holds true for both Hamas and Israel. For those who are claiming that Hamas wants eradication of Jews, Israel too wants complete control over that territory, as is evident from their treatment of the Palestinians of the West Bank. All their claim of seeking a peaceful solution is bull. They never indicated any good faith via their actions.

I am adding some background to help give the commentators a better insight into the situation. [Bombay/ Mumbai, 2-PQE, Have always lived in the city, no plans of moving]

1. I have been associated with my current senior's Chambers for almost two years now. Decent person, truly understanding, considerably supportive/ accommodating. My grief, in addition to the age-old peanut-pay is the limited exposure that I get in terms of appearances. Yes, I do get small-time applications here and there, but mostly adjournments. Respectfully, like any other sane individual, I do not count those as constructive appearances. In addition thereto, the work at this particular Chamber is of a very specific kind. To each their own, but I want to gain substantial exposure to as many facets of litigation as possible, latest by 5-PQE.

2. I have made up my mind to leave the present Chambers soon, and have been applying, for the want of a better word, in a haphazard fashion. At times, just bullishly hitting "send", without really concerning myself with other aspects such as pay, work-culture, etc.

3. Despite negligible appearances, I have gained significant drafting experience, and my strategies are taken into consideration, with due feedback being provided.

4. I am not looking into Dispute teams of Tier 1/2, even remotely. This is for additional context, if deemed necessary.

Here are a few questions for peers and seniors alike, particularly the ones who are into litigation.

1. What should I expect moving to a small/ mid law firm, given my Chamber background. If possible, please answer in terms of: (a) culture, (b) exposure, (c) working hours, (d) any additional aspects you deem fit.

2. Would a firm as above be more conducive towards professional growth in terms of gaining experience and exposure, or should I try my hand at some other Chambers?

3. Any tips/ additional comments you would consider adding.

Thanks for reading. Anticipating replies.

This ain't a question simply about whether doing law is worth it given the time and resources you invest, and returns you get which are quite different from career in STEM category. But a question especially related to the times we are living in, where across the world, rule of law has been reduced to a writing on a paper. The world is rife with violations committed by countries against each other and at multiple levels, with international organisations powerless to command establishment of peaceful environment.

Domestically, many countries are observing rise of semi-authoritarianism where governments are using combination of technological progressions and LAW, to muzzle dissent and opposition. LAW has become a tool to execute the unimaginable conspiracies so that a few politicians and corporates continue to enjoy control over the general citizenry. The common citizens are so entangled in their lives and hammered with societal & inflationary pressures that the masses fail to foresee for themselves a purposeful life. They would work a job with a feeling to persist some more time in a world, where commercialism and consumerism are stretching the desires to an unending infinity. And who lives now just to fulfill their needs?

Please think from a perspective of a law student, who would consider all the legal principles that he/she learns to be completely meaningless.

So why isn't he being arrested for domestic violence????

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/nawaz-modi-interview-charge-against-estranged-husband-gautam-singhania-2465866-2023-11-21

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/gautam-singhanias-separation-from-wife-nawaz-singhania-erases-180-million-at-raymond-4595911

https://www.businesstoday.in/latest/corporate/story/exclusive-raymond-boss-wife-nawaz-modi-opens-up-on-dispute-with-gautam-singhania-full-text-406598-2023-11-21

There was a girl from RMLNLU who was a finalist in Miss India and went on to do an MBA from IIMA. So success stories do exist and not everyone is math-phobic! Certainly, the IIMs are desperate to have girl students and have lower cutoffs for girl in maths, but a certain level of skill and a base score is still needed.

mostly its the ranks and internships. Nobody cares about moots but partners and seniors usually take interest in A0s and interns who have stellar publications since nuances of legal opinions for client deliverables and knowledge management ultimately need a good hold on the choice of words and fluency with black letter law.

So, marks (wont matter during lateral hiring) > Internships > Publications/Int moots > Other moots

Note: moots don't hold weight if its a mere participation; either you win or you lose.

Best of luck friend!

SO YOU'RE THE KIND OF PERSON WHO SUPPORTS BRITISH OVER MANGAL PANDEY AND BHAGAT SINGH?

It is nobody's claim that everything britain does is above reproach. In fact, no war, like the ongoing one in India, can produce an error-free outcome. However, there is a problem with the stated goal of HSRA, which has not been removed from its charter to date—that is, the aim to bring about the annihilation of the British. When such a goal is pursued, I will support britain.

Okay a few questions

1. Is it mandatory to suspend bar licence or did your company force you to do that?

Asking because most lawyers after going in house or even doing full time private jobs rarely suspend their bar licence.

2. Are there any issues if you don't suspend your bar licence post entering an in house job.

3. Suspending Bar Licence and then getting it back - how expensive is it?

Bar Enrollment you have to spend 15'000+ in most states. What is the cost of suspension of license and then getting it back when you practice.

4. Why don't most lawyers in India who go in house not suspend license?

If folks shout that in front of a Hindu with the sole intention of marginalising them or intimidating them, especially if the latter is in the middle of religious activity, then yes, it should be stopped or criticized at the very least. You can't bait me that way, what I find abhorrent applies to all the religions.

With regard to October 7, there's a difference between heinous acts and an organisation being acknowledged under domestic law as a terrorist organisation. As a lawyer, you're supposed to be able to identify that difference. I find Hamas' actions to be reprehensible and strongly condemn it. I feel the same way about Israel's retaliation too including all the murdering of innocent civilians and children. If you want to pressurize the Indian government to include Hamas in the list of organisations that we recognise as terrorists, I am all in support. Till then, it is not one at least under Indian law. Otherwise, people would have been arrested for inviting their representatives to air their opinions in programmes.

https://www.barandbench.com/news/dwarka-expressway-row-delhi-high-court-orders-the-wire-take-down-article-chief-secretary-naresh-kumar

https://www.newslaundry.com/amp/story/2023%2F11%2F22%2Fdelhi-chief-secy-vs-the-wire-court-tells-portal-to-take-down-defamatory-article-over-land-deal

Why do we still trust this site? Wikipedia editors treat it as the gospel truth and ban even citing Firstpost and Swarajya.

@Above T-1 PE Fund Lawyer:

Hi, I have been lurking at this particular thread since it was posted. The problem is that guys like OP dont have many options after law. No job for them. This is not the case about playing the cards you're dealt. This is the case with playing only Card - Just litigation.

Assuming that Op is first gen, he must be facing a tough time in terms of money and aging parents. Small School Law Grads dont get any job. Pet alone T-1 or T-3 .

OP mentioned that he is from MP/JH Or similar place, so moving to metro and working as intern / A0 is the only way left for them but that is really expensive and pure game of luck. He may make it or perish and crawl back to his burrow.

I am also assuming that OP enjoys litigation, apart from frustration of long trial. I guess, he is not attracted to work of a corporate lawyer. He is just looking for a way out to make more money and do good work.

@OP - I am impressed with how heartfelt your comments are. Word of advice if you can, join boutique in Mumbai. Again, that is uphill climb. Law is full of toxic & jealous people. Take care .

Don't want to undermine her work at her offices. But bro's got 1.5 yr work-ex at DUA and 6 months at SAM and she's dishing out career advice and that too paid ones. She has great publications from law school but no moots nothing. It would still have been reasonable if she did her LLM from some prestigious uni abroad at least then she can really help guide people with admission, LOR, SOP or whatever. As of now, I feel it is much better to approach your seniors at your internships or even college for guidance. They do it for free and must be more relatable. But do not follow everything they say blindly. They did whatever worked for them. You find what works for you.