One more interesting fact let me tell you. It is one of the best law firms of all time. Acclaimed by the Forbes list. So before you make ridiculous statements frustrated with your mediocre life think hard. The MD is a once in a lifetime lawyer. If your thinking of pursuing law please don’t if all you can do is bark sit at home at critique how pathetic your approach to life is. I have worked at Begur & Partners formerly known as ARA LAW. Even though they have downsized incapable and shallow people like you would be lucky to learn at such a place.

Alright so, I will give you the entire perspective on JGLS. I am placed at a T1, and have a pretty good CV.

I agree with the fact that the fee is exorbitantly high. I also agree that entering JGLS requires little to no effort. Regardless, JGLS is an avenue of opportunities, if you are up for grabs. Let's assume you can afford the fee, either by your means, or by way of a scholarship.

You can live a party life in JGLS quite easily. However, do not expect to do well out of law school with that trend. The reason being the competition can be quite cutthroat. A lot of LI posts talk about JGLS having low placement percentages. That is of course true seeing that a batch (BA LLB, BBA LLB, LLB) has 900 people (for 2024), and is going up to 1200 with the first years and the introduction of BCOM LLB. It is not realistic to even achieve 20% placement rate seeing the number of candidates being enrolled.

So, the true competition, or where JGLS really resides in its core is amongst the top 50-60 people. After that, it's just a mere factory producing 'lawyers'. If you are able to enter the top 30 of the batch - by way of maintaining a high GPA, having good moots, publishing in reputed places, and by securing internships through OCS - you are bound to land a T1/ reputed LLM because of JGLS' tie-ups.

Doing all of the above is not easy. Take for instance, an average class would have 60 people. You are competing with those 60 people for grades. But when it comes to internships/placements/masters, your grade is compared across the batch and not just your class. Your class may have gotten the short end of the stick with a professor, which can make all the difference later on. So to maintain a high GPA, you have to be all in at all times.

Similarly for getting a good moot, your memorial must be shortlisted. Approximately 300-400 people submit a memorial every semester, of which 100 are selected. Then those 100 go for orals and are ranked accordingly and get a preference on their moot. Again, its rigorous.

For publications, you are not really competing with anyone. But here is the thing, every semester, you would have 6 subjects (for the first 3-4 years, gets chiller in 5th year), and each subject having loads of internal components. Now like I mentioned above, maintaining your GPA is a task in itself, so finding time for publishing pieces also gets difficult during the semester.

All-in-all, I agree with the flak JGLS gets. They are taking in too many candidates, the fee is being increased too much, and the people who are taking it seriously get hidden in the crowd at times. My advice would be, if you know you will take law school seriously and are ambitious, you can succeed here. If you don't have rigor, you can fall into the awful side of Jindal quite easily.

As I will be completing my sixth semester in April, after which I will be interning in May and June before commencing my seventh semester, I am uncertain about the most appropriate way to indicate my academic year in the cover letter. Should I identify myself as a "4th year student at NLUx," or would it be more accurate to state that I am in my "7th Semester at NLUx"? Alternatively, would it be clearer to mention my current status as a "6th Semester (or Third year) student at NLUx"?

Any guidance would be appreciated, Thank you very much.

Everyone says if you badly want a job you can get it from anywhere if you work hard, intern right and be in the top of the batch. My coaching people are telling me to give other law entrances. How should I go about it? I feel I will be unemployed if I don't make it to the top 7 NLUs

Absolutely admire what Dr. Kaur has been doing at NLUJ. There were protests during Dr. Saxena's tenure but she was just not interested in seeing the college grow. However, that does not take away from the fact that the later is a brilliant teacher. I think all good teachers are not great administrators and vice versa. But Dr Kaur sure does both very well.

I see that quite a few Indian projects are structured in tax havens like Caymen Islands, Mauritius, Luxembourg and Netherlands, but apart from Singapore I don't see any substantial presence of Indian lawyers in these countries. It seems not just India but rest of the world also restructure to these countries. Any insights on how to get a job in law firms of these countries, how much is the pay and how is life.....Please Answer only if you know. Please don't faff....I have got enough here!

The university is promoting the llb batch as being “better” than the flagship ba llb in front of law firms. Can you believe an institution promoting one batch over another, to the detriment of another!? This is the VC’s impartiality - the insecurity of a possible failure of the three year course.

Pension (like 50% of your last drawn salary) is now available for only those who complete 20 years in the military. Outside of the military, no one else gets the traditional pension.

After the start of the NPS, government officers (central and state) do not receive pensions like in the past. A portion of the NPS is used to buy an annuity, giving a monthly "pension". Effectively, the employee funds his/her pension because the quantum of the annuity (and the monthly amount one gets) depends on how much one can save into the NPS.

People are living longer, hence traditional pensions are a heavy burden on the exchequer and financially unsustainable. NPS is now the norm.

Getting to enjoy the privilege of NLS while not working hard enough to deserve it is why everyone hates your batch. To get into BALLB, students go through a rigorous CLAT exam which is attempted by more than 70k-80k students and only top 60 make it to NLS. Only after putting in such hardwork do we get to experience the NLS brand. You guys, on the other hand, get it despite not putting in a fraction of efforts we have done. How many people even attempted NLSAT LLB? And to add to it, the admin is literally spoon feeding your batch to ensure you get internships, placements and get into committees. And still you have the guts to live in your world of superiority complex where you constantly shit on BALLB kids. If you're so damn smart, why are you not doing any good in any intra college competition like Moots? In fact, as far as I can remember, your batch literally complained during University Moot Rounds that the problem related to Arbitration Law was way too complex. Even the most mediocre of guys from your batch are getting internships in T1 firms thanks to the admin.

But NLS was conceptualized to pioneer the BALLB course and its students have done tremendously well. I'm sure you won't be able to continue banking on the NLS brand which exists due to the very BALLB students that you constantly shit on.

National institutions like IIT and IIM give monthly pensions after retirement. Do Jindal and Ashoka do so? If not, are the financial benefits of teaching at Jindal/Ashoka vs central institutions the same, in the long run? Also, what about NLUs? Do state governments give pensions to NLU profs?

Fellow 41 year old here. Also single and most likely will remain so. I too have wondered about mercy killing etc but not sure India will reach that point. But I do think about retirement and what life will be like at that point. I find it interesting that in the handful of replies here already 3-4 people identified themselves as just about 40 or so and are single and considering retirement related issues.

Intending to go to the ground today to support DSK. Its a tough group with likes of Sebi & Wadia in it. but pasting below some helpful youtube live streaming and cricheroes score links which were circulated yesterday to all teams.

YouTube links for live streaming of the matches:

For Law Firm Tournament:

January 05, 2024 - Friday (1:15 pm onwards): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvbJmtaYNUk

January 06, 2024 - Saturday (10 am to 3 pm): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1VUb1N4ft0

January 06, 2024 - Saturday (3 pm onwards): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNOJ3fdRA-s

January 07, 2024 - Sunday (10 am to 1 pm): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHIxmg3m3sY

January 07, 2024 - Sunday (1 pm onwards): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfmMrOV-kP8

- For checking the Law Firm tournament’s stats, live scores etc. please visit the following link: https://cricheroes.in/tournament/828549/ICUL-CHAMPIONS-LEAGUE-2023-24---Law-Firms-Tournament

For Tax Tournament:

January 05, 2024 - Friday (10 am to 1:30 pm): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV_OOtZdoN4

January 08, 2024 - Monday (10 am to 3 pm): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgn_-CTIzpE

January 08, 2024 - Monday (3 pm onwards): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Eq3eTLII9o

- For checking the Tax tournament’s stats, live scores etc. please visit the following link: https://cricheroes.in/tournament/828561/ICUL-CHAMPIONS-LEAGUE-2023-24---Tax-Firms-Tournament

There are 2 simultaneous tournaments going on in ICUL Champions League. One for law firms and another of tax firms at MCA BKC with 16 teams and 8 teams participating respectively. Will be cheering for Khaitan today to come good but the 6 over matches are very tricky and fortunes widely swing one way or the other with a good/bad over here or there. But that is the real fun.

Apart from top NLUs, it's the best law school I would say. They have tier 1 placements, people getting into reputed LLM programmes, etc. Only issue is that the fees is too damn high. Like 50l for a 5year programme. That's a joke.

- A CLC graduate who thinks LSAT is a joke and it's the easiest thing to get in jindal.

Buying a car can work provided you know which road to take and when.

Eastern Freeway which goes through Chembur/ Wadala (cheaper rent where some associates stay) - you can definitely drive your own car, but you have to leave before 9am as the road gets clogged 9:30am - 11am. This works if your office is in Fort. You can reach office from Chembur within 30-40 mins. By local it takes an hour from Chembur.

If your office is in Lower Parel, you will need to cross over to the “West” side of the city, so do consider 15-20 mins more for the traffic on the bridge in the morning.

I have assumed you are staying in Chembur for this.

False. Microsoft pays about 85-90k in-hand to folks from top NITs. Plus, I'm presently at a tier 1 B-school (India), where product managers joining Microsoft get about 1.5L p.m. post taxes. While a PM at Microsoft is certainly an excellent job, you have to remember that

(i) you've to have stellar profile (acads, extracurriculars)

(ii) get an extremely high %ile in CAT (Microsoft usually hires engineers with prior IT workex from B Schools,

How does cold emailing work in such cases? Do they take it kindly it we are able to reflect the relevant experiences and suitability for the job?

I've seen alumni from my institution refer candidates with some experience but not for freshers, hence I am of the opinion that they cannot or do not generally like to hire freshers? Anybody has seen the opposite happen?

How is Trilegal Mumbai banking structured in terms of teams? I.e. number of lawyers - do associates work across partners in a pool system?

Does Ameya's team look into structured and project finance? What about Kannan / Pranay / Jimmy - does an associate learn from several partners or are they working with a specific partner?

Can an associate specialize in a particular type of banking law - eg. trade finance / IBC / debentures? Or is learning dependent on the partner one is assigned to?

I know you're a troll and probably just joined a law school. But you must understand that the finance and tech guys aren't given 4-5 offers from international companies for nothing. The lawyers don't really do much than the unnecessary grunt work, which is hampering our economic development actually. Litigation lawyers, ofcourse their work is far more intensive that any tech or finance guy and they do make them millions.

First of all, I'm a 2nd Year Student of a Mid tier 2- 3 NLU, and confused whether to focus on doing lot of competitions, or should focus more on Academics.

I know that it's limiting myself, if I just sit for judiciary preparation and not doing anything. But the end goal is Judiciary only.

On the other hand, it's a bit uncertain to clear the paper. So that's why I'm confused. And are Judiciary exams are that tough?

Another question is, how is the environment of firms, is it really the way presented on this platform, or it's over exazerated. Please give your honest perspective on, How's life in a law firm?

You can but I'm talking about the entire process here, personally i wouldn't have been able to survive 2 years of science after 10th let alone jee and then 4 years of insane competition in an IIT.

7 years after 10th, still close to my buddies, I've discovered how easy our job really is. Not talking about litigation tho no idea about it.

It's okay, Uncle. We understand that you are hurting. Two glaring problems with your arguments though.

1. Why don't you ask AMS to give you jobs and internships? Go on, give it a shot. You'll find that he too favours us over you in his chambers. These dialogues are just for show.

2. With all those issues with NLUs, you still ended up in one? How ironical.

People complain of incompetent professors. Yet would shame LLMs. NLUs are the top most college in terms of resources, opportunities and education. Yet higher education scholars are treated like 3rd class citizens. They're told to do their PhD abroad. If someone could afford it and went, why would they return to India ? They'd teach somewhere else. In terms of research, NLUs do not guide their PhD scholars well. Example is the top most NLU where the VC is sitting on dissertations for more than 2 years. Imagine a scholar from NLS could have easily been employed at a better college if their dissertation had been accepted and didn't waste 2 years waiting for their acceptance. The central university like DU, BHU and GLC are in a worst condition. PhD is just completing years without proper research. How do we fix this ? How do people who wish to pursue higher education get a decent paycheck and some goddAmn respect ? If NLUs can't provide good phd scholars, what can we expect from other 600+ law colleges ? In the end we will continue to get below average professors.

This reminds me of the time my friend asked me which car he should buy- A second hand Thar for 10 lakhs or a new VW Virtus for 22 Lakhs. I will tell you what I told him. You can only compare cars when they are in the same segment or category with 1-2 lakhs or maximum 3-4 lakhs of price difference between them. The two cars are nowhere near each other, serve entirely different purposes and hence cannot be compared. You've asked a similar question. ADJ and Big 4 are completely different lines of work where you will lead an entirely different life in both from the place you live, the people you interact with to the person you marry and the school you children will attend. You can have a comparison between Big 4 and Tier 1 law firm or ADJ and Litigation (maybe) but cannot have a comparison between Big 4 and ADJ.