Because of attorney client privilege. A company has in house legal counsels but because of attorney client privileges it engages external counsel. Also,the whole point of conducting internal investigation is to collect evidence for court proceeding so most of investigation lead a legal action and in same cases they even initiate owing to some legal issue.

(I'm just guessing because I'm a student, not a lawyer)

Thank you for the taslima, but I don't think you know me, seriously you don't.I don't care they hire me it not, it's a matter of nice treatment.She told me she'd reach out in a few months if a position arises but I know all those are hollow assurance.If they wanted someone they can hire right away. Also, They kind of people they have onboard really shows what a crapload they are running. I can't be nice to every other tom dick and harry after they screwed me over, I have my dignity sir

Why would a client go to a law firm over a big 4 or other consulting firm for forensic/ accounting work. Usually for big matters, law firms would work along with consultants. My question was what does it make commercial sense for law firms to hire accountants for investigation related work.

I’m sorry but I’m glad someone has finally come out to talk about this. My brother recently interned there and the way they treated him was really uncalled for. No learning curve at all and he’d just go back to his PG crying and it would honestly make our parents feel really shitty :/

1. 1. No one requested your review. It's time to move past any middle-class complexes you may have.
2. 2. Gossip isn't a part of the culture at Tatva Hyderabad. Lawyers at Tatva Hyderabad are dedicated to providing top-notch legal counsel and cutting-edge legal advice, making impact locally, nationally, and internationally.
3. 3. Tatva Hyderabad prioritizes inclusivity and maintain a workplace free from discrimination, fostering a close-knit environment. Tatva Hyderabad's low attrition rates reflect the satisfaction of team members. Feel free to connect with any of Tatva's lawyers on LinkedIn to learn about their experiences.
4. 4. It seems you're a competitor holding grudges — perhaps from a small firm or less-established practice or back office.

It depends. 3-4 years into the profession, especially litigation would still make you a newbie and not a lot of clients would be willing to give you a chance. A lot lawyers going independent at this stage, go independent in the sense that they take work from other lawyers for a margin of the fees, such as drafting. That said, courtroom practice is quite different from corporate law firm practice. The work would be very diverse, as most litigators generally don't specialize. So you will keep on learning new laws and concepts all the time while working on them. However, that is something that can be handled over time. The biggest issue in litigation is financial independence. 3-4 years in would place you in the ballparks of 26-27 years of age. While your peers (in corporates and other fields) may be earning quite handsomely, you would be forced to live austerely. However, if you have soon financial backing or strong networks to keep you afloat, litigation in the long term can be very rewarding (if you have genuine passion for law). Best of luck!

So here is the thing: I have had a pretty decent career in law firms and presently at a PA level (8 years PQE) in a T1 Firm. The pandemic had caused much havoc in my personal life including the loss of a loved one which has consequently caused mental health issues for me. Realising that I am no longer cut for a 14-16 hour high pressure work environment I have been trying to move in-house and it almost seems like a loop. I hear people bashing law firm culture here left, right and centre but given their attrition rate atleast the onboarding process for my peers and I have been great. You have an interview, you either make it or you don't. If you have made it to the third round, safe to say an offer is incoming and in most cases it is a decent raise, you then agree or disagree and move on.

With companies however it is a different story: The entire process may sometime last months- as much as 3-4 months, with multiple rounds of interview to eventually have the post being discarded or suddenly having a budget crisis, like how can you start interviewing someone at a certain pay and then expect them to join at a lesser salary? Why have elaborate 50 mins HR interviews then asking about the expected salary? What sort of budget do they even operate out of that cannot hold good for 3 months and also how do they expect a candidate to stick around or show commitment for that long? 4 rounds of interview with a TAT of 15-20 days between each round, like are you serious? I know a friend who interviewed for a GC position, had 9 rounds of interview, 2 of which involved flying to a different city, only to have been told that the company no longer requires a GC but would hire two juniors to take care of two jurisdiction independently. Like what?!!

Even on Linkedin you would see same job posts being repurposed for months with 200-300 applicants in each post update. Like who the fuck are you guys looking at?

We all know how job hunting weighs so much on a person's self confidence and with this shitty job market. I think it's high time we start calling out these companies on their behaviour and for wasting precious time of candidates. I see legal recruiters calling out candidates for being unprofessional for playing with multiple offers and not sitting for interviews at the last moment. In the same breath I know so many HRs at companies who just ghost you as per convenience and do not even have the decency to update you.

Rant over. Bye.

You will teach yourself wrong stuff if you dont learn legal methods properly. Law is not as simple as opening a textbook and memorising. Theres an internal method to it which is hard to learn on your own. You can make a list of history/ political science/ sociology books ( not textbooks) and try and read them. volunteering at an NGO is a nice thing to do. So is earning money. So is doing any other kind of internship. For my money, I would reach out to a local newspaper office and do an internship with them, really get some exposure to people, get to know my city, and learn how to write tight informative prose.

Nothing theyve done required any of that reaction. Youre insane to think they did. They started a job search, they were interested in you, they realised soon enough that they couldnt afford a new hire. You said you would work at a lower salary, they mulled it over and thought it was inappropriate ( because they work in labour and employment persumably) and rejected you.

If you had not abused them and gone insane- they might have given you a job at a future date. Because you did- you have now completely burned that bridge. And Lawyers and HR people talk to each other.

Nobody owes you a job because you interviewed and waited a while. When I started my job search after law school I interned at a place for three months waiting to hear about a job interview that happened on day 1- didnt get it. Was disappointed- but did not let it ruin the relationship. They didnt owe me a job I was not qualified for because I made decisions that were bad? I left that internship, applied to other places- had another better job in 2 months, because folks from the first place served as references.

Waiting a month to hear back is actually not at all bad timeline. You NEED help. But I dont even know if therapy or anger management will help, it seems youre just a spoilt rotten person who has never had to deal with anyone professionally. ¥ou need a damn clue.

Hi! I am currently interning. This internship is one of the only few internships where I was given worked, helped, and mentored. the people are nice and helpful. not that I want to keep up with them to use their "contacts" I genuinely what to keep in touch with them. BUT I am basically non existent on Instagram and also find it weird if I had to follow my associates on Instagram. How would you suggest one can keep in touch with them after internship?

its not just the TLC lobby honey. Many of those people left when D and FM were in charge. They were unhappy with service conditions offered and with lack of academic mentorship and generally with student engagement. the rot is set in a lot deeper than TLC v others. Its institutional culture. Get a mirror.

You were wrong. Many times for an opening, someone with a lower experience is considered there's some promise in candidate but in these cases, process goes slow. Also, if you're somewhat closer but not the right guy, process would move slow. Lastly, there's a reason for not hiring someone over qualified at a lower position and for a lower salary, because such candidates, especially those at the early stage of career jump overbvery quickly once they get even half better role. So again for the organisation, the process starts from beginning.

Lastly, come what may, by making such slurs, you proved their decision right.

Thanks folks :-) Just to set some stuff straight:

1. Yes I have left AZB.

2. Yes I am setting up independently and will be focusing on international tax and private client work going forward.

3. Yes I am actively looking to hire, particularly if you love direct tax or are good generalists. Interns with the above profile are welcome also, but I’m only taking one or two a month. Feel free to look me up on LinkedIn for contact information + ask folks who’ve worked with me before if you’d like feedback. I’d like to think I run happy teams.

4. I’m currently pegging pay scales at a 20% discount to Tier 1 scales and interns get a 10K stipend per month. Again, pls ask if you’d like to know. Pay related questions are important and I’m happy to be upfront about them.

Mods, please make sure to clear this and feel free to get in touch if you need to verify that it’s me. Thx

I agree with everything you said but I just wanted to add that the SBA is literally a collection of the most incompetent people who have ever come together as a group. The policies are outright dumb and every single bulkmail they send has some kind of error, they feel like they’re not there to help the students and act as if the reimbursement money is coming out of their own damn pockets, i’m still waiting on my reimbursement since the last 7 months, this year’s SBA is especially incompetent.

Dentons Link Legal. This year they provided assessment internships in bulk through college internship cells of various NLUs. After joining, their Delhi HR told all the assessment interns that they have never offered any such assessment internship and that it is a normal internship. Such a scam.

Yeah so he says. He could be making it up or repeating a rumor that started because of her relationship with him only. There is no of course about a man expecting virginity from women while he hooks up without a thought. Like if you are an uncle then act like an uncle no? Don’t sleep around and bitch about it.

OP here -Here's the whole story. I had applied for an analyst role and in the interview, HR told me it was for a trainee position rather. I had no issues with that. I gave four rounds, and at the end, Even though I expressed my consent to work at a salary that was lower than what I am drawing in my present company and role was a demotion practically, I was more than willing to work at their pay scale.The HR herself told me it was "inappropriate" to hire a graduate for a trainee position, which is clearly baloney as firms and companies alike are devilish when it comes to ethics and morals. They could have simply told that we can't afford you and you don't have the experience to be considered for an analyst, which I admit requires much experience. Why keep people in agony and deadlock. I tried recoding our call to ensure she doesn't back out but he snaked away . Now you be the judge people, at one point you're ok with hiring substandard and cheap talent, but wouldn't flinch at someone asking the right money. And the irony is , the company specializes in Labour and Employment only, lol.

Heyo. There's another 7 months left for my first semester to start. I don't wish to waste these 7 months simply waiting or whiling away time. I have a few options on hand which I can't really choose between. Either I could study for law school before I join. This could give me an advantage and make things slightly easier on me when I actually do join. If this option makes sense, please do tell me what textbooks I should refer to, keeping in mind that I'm a first year student. The other option is to get a part-time job or start teaching kids in exchange for money. I'm not sure about this option but if it is a good option, please do try and tell me how to go about it. The other options are to volunteer for an NGO or pursue some online certificate course. Which one of these options would be the best use of my time and also be valuable in terms of overall life skills?

Hi!
I'll try keeping this as brief as possible.

I interned at Tatva for a month [between June - November, 2023] and I can honestly tell you, it was the worst experience of my life. I'm someone who comes from a middle-income family and had to shift to Hyderabad for that one month. I was eager to learn + get actual work. However, I was assigned to a team on the 2/3rd floor and that's where the issues started.

1. They gossip WAY TOO MUCH. With each other. With managers. Behind A0's back's and no work is ever completed.

2. I wasn't allotted any work despite me repeatedly asking for the same.

3. They're extremely classist and have such toxic conversations about anyone and everyone including clients.

4. The only work they give you is to print out judgements.

5. They themselves come into office by 2 pm, whereas interns are just sitting from 9:30 am.

6. I genuinely felt useless. They term it as them being a 'self reliant' team, however the truth is that they just don't trust interns with work.

All in all, it was the worst month I've ever interned. I recommend staying away and interning at a place that actually values your presence and what you bring to the table.

Long answer alert

you absolutely should join SLSP if you have the chance. Yes, I hear you about the online classes during internships (went through the same thing not too long ago) but honestly, you just have to handle the tough stuff sometimes. I interned at a T1 during these internship break online classes, and the professors just did not cut us any slack or give us extensions because of these internships. We stayed up late, vented and cried about it, but we managed regardless. Maybe the internal you're writing won't be the best you've ever written, but if you push yourself, it can still be a good one. In any good college, you'd have to deal with tight deadlines and stressful situations. And regardless of where you work in the future, this is a skill that you need to have. Think of this as practice.

SWC is doing its best. They're dealing with the same admin that you are, and the admin staff treats SWC worse than they treat you. They absolute do encourage mooting, if you look at the mooting achievements of your seniors this is hard to dispute. SBA may have some strict rules and unrelenting positions on some things, but you cannot deny that there are some seniors who give you an incredible amount of help with moots. Maybe your SBA appointed stategist isn't any good, but if you take the effort to approach your seniors on your own, you'll definitely find help. My seniors were the absolute best, gave me good drafting advice, took oral pleadings and helped me practice, and I did my best to pass it on to my juniors. Mooting culture isn't just what the SBA tells you it is, it's also the kind of resources (books/databases/seniors) that you have access to.

Results speak for themselves. You've told us that you've landed a really good internship for Feb (congrats on that!) and trust me, the college name helped a LOT with that. You must have gotten the internship either through the Placement Cell or through contacts, and even if it's the latter, the college name helped with that. As someone who started the law school journey without any lawyer contacts, I thought that it would be the difference between a T1 job and a T2/T3 job, but it's not. (not that T2/T3s are any less valuable). Contacts get you internships, not jobs. Beyond that, it's up to you, nepo kid or not. I'm in a T1 now, and I know this would have been almost impossible if I'd been in XYZ college. So if you get into a top NLU go for it, but SLSP is an excellent choice if not.

I'm sorry you're struggling. If you need advice about mooting/academics/internships, reach out to your seniors. They can help more than you realize. That's why things like SYMPAL exist, even if the students barely make any use of it. Good luck!

It was on upper circuit yesterday, and again upper circuit today

probably day 1 was hectic as retail investors were busy profit booking

In such cases over time more serious long term investors come in and hold if they have faith in the company

Also some day traders may drive price a bit up or down as companies with smaller stock have more volatility so more scope to make money from intra day swings

We should not read too much into day 1 of trading

Guys I know so many places have complete hiring freezes. I'm from the 2025 batch and wanted to know which teams in which firms are currently hiring, so I don't end up wasting internships?

Or just in general which practice teams in which firms usually hire more that others.

Hi. I am a law student and I have few queries about capital markets as a practice area.

(1)Is it easier than other practice areas as many people say?

(2)Does it pay well ?

(3)Is it quasi-mathematical and too technical with financial terms like interest rates, stock price, etc

(4)What should be studied before going for a Capital Markets internship?

(5)What are skill sets required for a CapMark job in Tier-1 lawfirm?

Many NALSAR alumni who teach at JGLS would happily teach at NALSAR, but the TLC lobby will not hire them. At best they will be offered 1 year contractual appointments on meagre salaries and then bullied into teaching subjects they don't want to teach and burdened with admin work.

The only hope is an alum VC like Sudhir.

Here's an extract of an e-mail from the HR Committee of a Firm:

"It is reiterated again that Office timings are from 10 am to 7 P.M(Lunch break between 1 P.M to 2 P.M) and therefore you all are requested to maintain the sanctity and decorum of office timings. In terms of incoming timings a relaxation of 30 mnts has already been given for any contingency. However that should not be treated as standard office time.Any one reporting beyond 10.30 shall be marked on half day leave. Further the lunch time is to be strictly adhered to and any one coming back from lunch after 02.05 pm shall again be marked absent for half day.

We further request you all to minimize Tea/Coffee breaks, you can order whatever you want to through office boys. If at all you personally have to go down stairs, avoid going in groups.

Further any absence from office beyond 15 minutes without intimation/Approval from HR shall also be treated as leave. The intimation has to be on mail, the personal phone call, whats app messages shall not be treated as due intimation/Approval.

The above is only intended to increase the efficiency and productive time of the team."

This is not ▮▮▮. Are other firms also like this? Almost feels like a correctional facility at this point. So annoyed!

Throughout the course of my BBA.LLB I have managed to score much above 70% in all management subjects while only around 60% in law subjects. And I am from a GLC under a board which is not at all lenient in paper evaluations. I am very bad at mathematical subjects but good at verbosity.

Many users of legally India recommend MBA to law graduates who do not get placed on campus. So I am asking such individuals: "Would you recommend to someone who hasn't touched any logarithm, variables, permutation , etc for 7 years?"

I'm an engineer by profession, but i have always been fascinated by the law. I want to learn more about it. I don't want to pursue LLB yet but i intend to read whatever books i can and learn as much as i can as a layman. What would you suggest to this highly curious guy?

And I'm very sorry for not being a lawyer and using LI. Hope I'm not trolled.