How do you know 'several law firms refused' applications? Just trying to create a narrative which you guys anyway peddle from day 1 of this program's genesis. About to wrap up my degree in NLS, and I have not seen any indications of the admin favouring our batch. Promotional activities and outreach activities are a different thing. Nothing is an open secret, it is just rumour mill that is churning out false narratives on the creditworthiness of this program. None of the folks in the LLB program have ever engaged in the US vs. Them debate. The person in LLB who participated alone due to other team members not being able to participate on account of visa issues did acknowledge that in his post. Nobody is negating their hard work. The other poster's response was in relation to you casting doubt on people's ability to perform well; point being that the 3 year LLB guy was able to perform even without BA LLB co participants being on board. Had they been there, you would have likely given all the credit to the BA LLB participants. It's you who is negating the effort of other people just because they happen to be from a different program.

You are very quick to point the supposed unfair advantages that we are accorded with, but would very conveniently leave out the assistance y'all get from certain key POCs in firms.

Nothing we do is ever enough for you or your ilk to prove that students in the 3 year LLB are equally passionate and hardworking. Earlier the narrative was ohh they didn't perform well in moots, now that we are making a foray in that domain, the narrative has shifted to ohh the top 24 ranks are from BA LLB. Given your numbers isn't that inevitable? We're just a two-three year old program, and within that duration we have improved our performance in moots. The guy who topped univs is one example, but even if you remove that as one odd case, there are people who have secured good ranks. Maybe not in top 25, but surely in top 45. The combined strength of LLB cohorts is somewhere around 100-120 students. This including both the batches. That is the batch strength of one entire section in BA LLB. Given your numbers, it's likely that you would have more participants.

"We all know how grade inflation is systemic in LLB"? A baseless allegation. You have absolutely no basis to say that grades are inflated.

I am happy that students from the BA LLB program got a good number of PPOs. I really am, because unlike petty low lives like you I don't revel in bringing other people down to get ahead in life. And trust me, none of the LLBs engage in the mudslinging contest that some of you in the BA LLB seem to enjoy. That is what makes us different. I wish you love and light and perhaps some sense too.

Byee.

It's not a T2 practice - enough and more lead managers are testament to it. Nobody comes close to the culture of the team despite the workloads and the fact that that they've managed great increments and aggressively pursue clients.

This comment is pretty telling - we'll see how places with huge resources and longer relationship cope. No smoke without fire.

Mostly CV. Do basics of company and contract thoroughly. You can't be clueless if you are asked a basic question about a company.

Read legal developments and big cases (especially Supreme Court cases on commercial matters)

Many firms cover these developments themselves. You can check on the websites. Otherwise scroll through two-three legal blogs and familiarize yourself.

GDs unfortunately are about being better than everyone else. Though they give simple topics, try to convey nuanced ideas, speak clearly and don't be rude and interrupt others (if unmoderated.) Always be polite and assertive while speaking

CV is recommended because that is the major part of the interview. But to stand out, read up on recent legal developments related to your CV and try to relate that to your answers. Same with HR questions - try to understand the firm's work and motto well so your answers seem genuine. Their websites are a good place to look. Try to show them why you see yourself working at this firm.

Don't be either cocky or cowardly. Attitude matters a lot.

OP here, ignore the trolls

That is a tough question. Day Z was only within my university so I can only tell you the composition of the associates/interns from my firm

Many NLUs, surprisingly a lot of Symbi and Jindal. I think the sad reality is that privilege begets privilege - all the non-NLU/Symbi/Jindal kids are from metros, went to good schools, upper-middle class, and so on

BUT there are exceptions. I would advise you apply to lots of firms and secure an assessment internship. You may be expected to work there between 3-6 months. Do your best, make sure you are bonding with the people, and secure some job, even at a smaller firm/chambers. Later on you can always laterally move to a T1 firm if that is your aspiration. Make sure that at your first professional experience you pick up a lot of general and specialized skills, so that a T1 firm would want to hire you

Don't lose hope. There are always jobs for good candidates

Stats - https://www.barandbench.com/apprentice-lawyer/rectracker-35-students-from-nlsiu-batch-of-2025-bag-ppos-before-day-zero

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Program. I understand that an MBA is expensive. However, student loans are quite easily available & the ROI is decent for MBA programs from the Top 10 IIMs / FMS Delhi & private institutions such as XLRI, XIMB, etc.

So cheer up & work hard, you will eventually reach where you want to, life is too short to worry about things which can be improved upon by working smartly & diligently. Life is a marathon, not a 100 m/200m race.

Hi, sorry to hear that life hasn't worked as you wanted it to; however, you shouldn't consider this a sign of incompetence but of your perseverance. You currently have multiple options, and I will list some of these options for you. Firstly, you can start by applying to boutique firms such as Panag & Babu, DMD Advocates, Capstone Legal, SNG & Partners, HSA Advocates, etc.; I think there is a Legally India thread on boutique corporate law firms; search it up. Secondly, follow up on your application status at a reasonable regular interval. You can also apply to T2/T3 law firms (Again, search for the relevant LI thread); they will happily take you if you are willing to work and aren't too concerned about losing batch seniority. Coming to the batch seniority part, losing 2-3 years, even four years, doesn't matter in the long run. If you aim to become a Partner eventually, don't divert your energy towards this matter. Now, if you successfully get a job in a boutique/T3/T2 Law firm, you should work there for at least 2 years, & then laterally shift to a good T2 firm from T3/Boutique or a T1 Firm from a T3/T2.

Thirdly, if you want to earn a good salary from the get go, you can try writing CAT & join a decent IIM or a private institution for their MBA programme

It will be tough. Are you general category? If yes, I think you should set your sights on private universities, given the stiff competition for seats in NLUs and government universities: Jindal, BITS, NMIMS (last two especially if you live in Mumbai), Symbi, Bennett and Nirma.

I've recently completed my assessment internship at SRL, Bangalore, and was invited for a callback assessment - despite being an assessment intern. I'm wondering if this unusual scenario could potentially lead to a PPO as most people I know receive PPOs after completing their assessment internships. Could anyone share insights on my hiring prospects, given this unconventional path? Any guidance or experiences shared would be greatly appreciated.

You can't run a firm with this being the sole reason for someone to stay. To retain the remaining folks, Indus doesn't have much choice than making few EPs. They have to announce it during the retreat. Although, if MC is leaving along with other EPs, I think offering equity will become a joke.

1. CAM's 2 internship policy isn't set in stone. I know of at least 3 NLS BA LLB students in the past who have done the same. If you have to brag, at least don't be ignorant. CAM gives PPOs in the first internship itself if the rank is sufficiently high and we all know how grade-inflation is systematic among LLBs.

2. The rest of the team for the moot court competition couldn't make it due to visa issues. To just erase their efforts over months reeks of insecurity. Same goes for the negotiation competition which could not have done as well without the ace negotiator from the ba llb cohort.

3. 1 LLB got the highest marks in oral rounds, sure. But lets also talk about how 24/25 top ranks went to BA LLB students.

As for law firms "considering their applications", it is an open secret that several law firms openly refused to consider you all and that it happened only after much begging and personal lobbying from certain bigwigs in the admin department. Stop attributing it to your efforts when it is solely because of daddy's lobbying.

Excellent work by the student-run BA LLB RCC. This should hopefully shut up people (including sadly, some students) who believe that the RCCs are useless and that bureaucrats who have no idea about the legal industry will somehow get them placed.

Also, a big W for the flagship programme, despite so many issues caused by Sudhaarji and his minions. Guess the market can identify better than anyone which cohort is the real stuff :b

Hello, I am an anxious fourth-year law student from a tier 3 NLU. I got an internship at Trilegal Bombay. I am hoping to convert it into a PPO after a call-back. I request someone to please help me out wrt how I can get a PPO out of this internship.

Additionally, I request people to please tell me which teams/partners in Tri hire more or are planning to hire more for the 2026 batch.

Thank you so much for your help!

Not impossible to get back in the saddle. Find a mentor at whatever Tier who will train you well and with whom you can grow. Accept lower pay for a while if you get good training but be clear that you want to be moving toward better comp. Can be a small law firm, need not be tiered. Ideal if you find a partner who eventually takes you to a better firm.

Transfer the skills you have learned at the BPO into law practice. Prove yourself by being a good mentee. Some serendipity is also needed here but I can say from experience that nothing is lost at 26. Be willing to ask for the help you need.

At Crawford the bond is for 4 years. They pay 9L fixed salary and 2-6 months of salary in form of a performance bonus. Both the Capital markets teams have a lot of work and are doing great. It's a super place to get maximum exposure possible for an A0. If you are willing to put enough efforts and if your work is decent, you get the higher end of the bonus. Additionally, out of station retainers (ones who are not domiciled in Mumbai) get a marginally higher pay.

From an employability perspective, what should I decide? I am currently in my 4th year, and there are no on-campus recruitment opportunities at my university.

This boutique law firm is headed by a Partner who has experience as a partner at multiple tier-1 law firms.(khaitan ,sam, cam etc)

Please guide.

I am sure you family and acquaintances may perhaps not say know the names of XLRI or FMS or NID or IIFT etc too which means. In the industrial, corporate, financial and banking world in the Indian context both these firms are big names and is a strong brands with almost a century of experience. They have some of the best and finest lawyers and are way ahead then most India firms. Hope this helps

LMAO… are you getting your news from Whatsapp University or Russia Today? The cardboard beds are there because they are recyclable. Another reason is to discourage athletes from having sex. It’s well known that there is a crazy amount of sex and one-night stands that happen during the Olympics, but this also disturbs athletes who are abstaining. This year, 200,000 make condoms and 20,000 female condone have been given to the athletes.

https://www.npr.org/2024/07/25/nx-s1-5050830/cardboard-beds-returned-olympics-what-do-they-do

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jul/16/will-paris-2024-be-the-sexiest-olympics-ever

I'm in my final year now from a not so great uni. I've built quite a cv in the competition space, but with limited firms practicing, especially in Tier 1, I don't see myself getting into a Tier 1 competition team. It's giving me a lot of stress, and I don't know whether I should pivot exclusively to GC or M&A internships to increase my likelihood of a good job, or continue to grind it in competition law, hoping that I'll be placed at some point.

I'd also be grateful for any tips about possible openings in places, considering all the shifts that have recently happened. Please help out a poor chap

Hey. Was in your position a few years back, I had landed a job at Trilegal by converting a callback to a PPO.

First and foremost, make it very clearly known, right from day 1, that you’re looking to get placed in that team. Make your intentions clear, and what you’re expecting.

Second, be smart with who you work with, deliverables wise. Obviously, you need to be very pro-active and expressly ask for work, but also ensure you’re doing work for the partner, principal associates and counsels. Basically, those who call the shots. It’s very easy to get work and impress A0-3s, but you need to aim higher.

Lastly, Trilegal follows a 3 step process. After the callback, you’ll have to schedule an interview. Assuming there’s no snags from HR’s end (believe me, I’ve seen extremely prospective interns lose their chance at a PPO solely because of HR incompetence. Make sure you follow up repeatedly, and keep them in your good books) and your partner finds the time to, you’ll have your first round of interviews. Clearing that, you’ll either have a written test or have the second interview with a neutral partner.

Only once you’ve completed all these steps, is when you bag a PPO at Trilegal.

All the best, hope this helps. Be confident, and ask for what you want.

I think before we bid for Olympics (or even Commonwealth Games etc.), we should first see how are we using the infrastructure which was created for 2010 Commonwealth Games. As a country, we should definitely support sports and sportsmen but that can be done without hosting the games. These games help in soft power which India is already enjoying due to various factors. Rather, the money should be spent on sports and sportsmen, which includes looking after existing sporting facilities, coaching, food, nutrition of our existing players.

We are world's most populous country, we should be using it for our advantage by producing world calls players. Imagine the soft power that the country will earn when the players do well!

Bro at this point its is not even breaking anymore. All law firms are running a factory of underpaid and overworked poor fellows with the top names paying no need to the well being of their Associated. SAM AZB Trilegal Khaitan CAM JSA (forgive me if I left out a firm) are equal in terms of brand name and over exploitation. You might switch firms easily but will always be confined by this small profession of 1000s of lawyers

Of course it is! People make come backs all the time, people change streams and industries and sectors all the time and they do it at 30, and 35 and 40!

Look at smaller firms and don’t worry about PQE. Do a little research into areas of law you are interested in and find smaller firms that work in these areas. Work hard for lower pay (relative to your batch mates) for a year or two, and you’ll be on track to move to a Tier 2/3 within a few years.

Option 2 - Leave the law firm life behind and look at your options outside legal practice. Look up the kinds of jobs you want to do. Find people with the jobs you want, and start upskilling to match their skills and experience. Could be management, data analysis, or even BD/marketing. Start volunteering for teaching opportunities if that interests you, or pick up an online course that aligns with the kind of jobs you want to do.

You’re young, you’ve got years ahead of you - bottom line is, there’s always time for a comeback. Best of luck!!

1. If you were in the know or a viable candidate for any of these firms yourself, you'll know there have been multiple single internship PPOs from CAM this year on the basis of performance. Not everyone has to use your methods lmao.

2, 3 and 4) The fact is the LLB program is doing well bro. Your entire batches of hundreds aren't filled with Einsteins either. For a program that didn't even exist when y'all were probably hustling to make your copycat CVs from first year, they're doing just fine is the point.

Hello everyone, I'm a T2 NLU (27 yrs) grad having 3-4 PQE working mainly in criminal (white-collar, body crime, trials) and a few civil matters (Arbitration, Injunctions etc) both at trial and appellate levels, only litigation experience

Have worked previously in Delhi for 1.5 years, now in Mumbai since last 2 yrs. Making decent money not at par with law firm but enough to sustain and lead a decent life. However, since its been almost 4 years need/want some insight on future prospects

Have been working hard since day 1 and have learnt a lot even argued before HC's , Sessions , etc getting favourable orders. The prospect of litigation though exciting and respectable but doesn't seem practical considering my situation esp. in places like delhi bombay etc. I dont belong from either places; I feel apart from merit and hard work there is a lot of other factors which outweigh merit, in shaping up your counsel career.

Need help and advise on how to navigate further and what progressions shall i include/indulge in to have a better idea? Not fixated on being a senior adv / judge , merely want to expand my skill set and industry knowledge as being 27-28 still might have ability to switch/explore? or I'm just being paranoid and too scared to find out?

I think this may possibly be taking it a bit too far! A Magic Circle or Amlaw20 firm TC, while maybe not getting you the level of name recognition that a Rhodes would, is still an opportunity to make money; keep in mind that the transfer for Foreign law graduates to qualify in England and Wales anyway requires Indian law graduates to undertake about two years of study after their Indian LLB graduation before they can even start a TC. If you were to take up Rhodes, that two-year period would become four years (Rhodes requires two years' study in Oxford, plus two years pre-TC study). Frankly, if I were a student from a working class background confronted with this choice (quite an enviable choice to be confronted with!), I would go for the TC; you also have to remember that while Rhodes has huge meaning in India, it means hash in England (outside of very specific Oxford/academic circles). That would mean that if you postponed your TC until you finished Rhodes, many UK lawyers might (not necessarily saying would, but just might) consider you to be someone with fancy graduate degrees (caveat: but you would, as a Rhodes Scholar, likely have done the BCL, which everyone looks up to). In addition to the above, keep in mind that even if you did your graduate studies in Oxford, you'd never be able to call yourself an 'Oxford graduate' in England, something which that culture reserves only for those who did their undergraduate degrees in Oxford (just as Lallums (rightly) can't call themselves NLSIU alumni). Case in point: Sir Keir Starmer, the current PM, read for his LLB at Leads and the BCL at Oxford, but the sort of people for whom these things matter declaimed from the rooftops (upon his election victory) about the downfall of the Oxford-educated elite and the 'poshboys'.

Regarding T1 PPO in India, no dispute, nobody (the public, potential clients, the firm) gives tuppence if you give it up to go for the Rhodes; you would, in fact, be considered an idiot by many if you chose to do anything else!

This post is so misguided. Please see the news or even social media.

Paris Olympics is an epic fail. They have given the athletes beds made of cardboard to sleep in. uncooked food and generally extremely poor resources.

Even otherwise, the electricity outages, announcing South Korea as North Korea, and numerous other things have led to #boycottOlympics trending. Please read.

Stop being an India hater just for the sake of it.

Have been applying for a while and getting instant HR rejections. Even if you send a query regarding available slots as an email you'll get the reply that "

Thank you for your email / your resume, which we perused with much interest.

However, we regret to inform you that at present we are not in a position to accommodate your request for an internship , whilst we receive a large number of applications, we have limited slots available for internship.

Thank you for your interest in our Firm. We wish you all the very best for your future endeavors."

Is there any hack to get an internship there or is it just mere contacts?

It will be interesting to learn when this discussion started. Was it after the recent exit of cap marks partners from CAM (if so, then this move by ML's team is really fast) or was it because ML was joining with his team and existing CAM cap marks partners felt that they will have limited space in CAM.

“We will list the matter, but we will not grant any stay (on the HC verdict),” the CJI-led bench said.

In its June 20 verdict, the high court had ruled that the amendments, passed unanimously by the state’s bicameral legislature in November last year, were “ultra vires” of the Constitution, “bad in law” and “violative of the equality clause”.

The high court had made it clear that it saw “no extenuating circumstance enabling the state to breach” the 50% cap on reservations laid down by the Supreme Court in the Indra Sawhney case.

https://www.news18.com/india/sc-refuses-to-stay-patna-hc-order-striking-down-65-reservation-in-bihar-8982373.html

With the rigorous class timings ranging from 8 AM - 4PM which actually yields no return plus making it hard for anyone to pursue running internships/Moots NUALS Kochi is making it difficult for the current pool to standout.

Adding to that the internship break which barely has 40 days or lesser per semester makes it even harder to land a good internship as it falls in dec/june which is the peak season.

And nevertheless the marks for attendance which indeed is a drawback hasn't moved the student's here much as they prefer sitting in these almost useless lectures just for the 5 marks.

Its time to revamp this 20th century system and make it easier for the upcoming kids.

BCI hasn't made any significant effort to better the legal education but by imposing stringent rules and regulations especially which makes it hard for a law student to intern and gain practical exposure is holding the legal education back. Its high time that a separate body which focuses on more practical approach is set up for the betterment of legal education in general.

Indus had a such a great work culture. CAM will definitely ruin this for them plus CAM with their low salaries to associates esp A0s (since CAM believes in concentrating their profits at the top) is bound to spark some ire. Manan should have joined a better firm not a firm still running a so called name. Trilegal would have been a great choice. Khaitan and AZB SAM are self sufficient on their own.

No. Sadly, it's over for you. If you were not able to find any law related job in the 2-3 years after graduation, there is literally no chance unless you have solid contacts which ofc you don't seem to have. It may sound harsh but it's the truth. If I were you I would look for other careers. Keep the BPO job and prepare for CAT on the side.

Ex-employee here. KLaw is not what it used to be, there is a steady decline quality of work and clients. Mumbai corporate team lack serious leadership with high attrition rate among associates.

They pay extremely poorly given that you will be spending more than 11-12 hours a day in office.

Basically, don’t join. There are other T2/T3 law firms with better work culture and ethics.

Boss, don't create these artificial divide between faculty. One programme asked for testimonials from some faculty, they got it. One programme asked for help from a faculty, they got it. I would be surprised if faculty think of it as some great battle between the programmes where everyone is choosing sides, and backing one programme over the other. The same faculty teach us and them.

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1. Because he wants to get into a standing committee. He was heading the standing committee on commerce last time. Standing committees can propose/oppose actions that have huge consequences for industry.

2. Because even a rich man wouldn’t mind some extra income and perks like a Lutyens bungalow and free business class air travel. Especially if the job involves no real work!

3. Because Delhi-lites love power and lal battis.

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No shade, but rocking an Omega De Ville, Seamaster, or Constellation? It’s giving “new money” vibes. And those entry-level Rolex Oyster Perpetuals or Datejusts? Yeah, same boat. Look, it’s not just about slapping on something pricey; it’s about choosing a piece that screams “you”! Do yourself a favor and dive into the Swiss watch world—there’s so much more than just the usual suspects. Save up for a timepiece that’s as unique and stunning as you are!

You deserve it!