you dont have to and you cant do everything i said every month. I personally only do 1-2 ADR comps a year (those also only take 2-3 days) and average arround 10-15K which I use from my stipend savings of the entire year. Moreover networking in college is free no? talk to seniors they wont bite, another tip is making friends: I am still in touch with my clat prep buddies who are now in different colleges and help me connect with new people for publication or internship questions or exam prep etc.

As far as tips for networking in adr comps: I am somewhat extroverted and on the first day itself i simply go knock rooms adjacent to mine and introduce myself and talk futher, almost always this has helped both of us because even they want to network but are hesitant to approach. For the next 2-3 days of the competition we become good friends and finnaly on the last day where almost all the comps have a party night or a networking dinner, this helps me losen up and talk to more people because i already have 2-3 people who i can talk to and other just join in as opposed me just sitting alone on the table.

I get that the CJI is the master of the roster etc. But what justifies one of the junior most puisne judges consistently being on every high profile case?
So many relatively senior judges like J. Oka are not on Constitution Benches.

Merely because the CJI sits with J. Pardiwala and J. Misra in every case, does that mean they have to be there everywhere?

Stop masturbating. Stop overdosing on social media. Wake up early every day. Go for a run. Shower and wear formal clothes and treat your preparation like a 9 to 5 job. In the evening go for a walk. Come back and have dinner by 8. No social media. No night study. Sleep by 9-10. Get those 8 hours rest. All of this might sound absurd, but it works.

The problem with not clearing any exam is lack of discipline, especially since you're not being paid to study therefore you succumb to instant gratification. Delayed gratification is a hard concept to imbibe.

Motivation is only the spark, discipline is the method that is needed to keep that fire alive. Start treating prep like a 9-5 job and you will succeed soon. Oh and definitely make a daily, weekly and monthly plan as to what you will cover. Stick to it. JUST DO IT!

Oh cut the rationalisation because you’re too insecure to accept NLUD’s superiority. We literally have more international moot, debate and ADR wins than NALSAR despite being a decade younger. And no, UPSC may not be the only metric of superiority but nearly everyone who’s cleared Civils from here had jobs/could have easily got jobs. Your pathetic justification that people did UPSC since law firms jobs were unavailable to NLUD grads is laughable and clearly shows you have no idea about the internal situation at NLUD. Civils is way harder than landing a law firm job. And NLUD is superior on many other metrics, whether an ignoramus like yourself accepts it or not is irrelevant. Places like NLUJ are honestly not even in our league.

Only if you were aware of the cut-throat competition and backstabbing in T1 NLUs. You don't have friends in college, you only have rivals. You need to think twice before sharing a fact with your best friend! I personally feel like a T1 NLU turns you into a machine. It trains you to be a professional (Machine). I really miss my old self from class 12th!

I don’t know what he thinks he’s doing. I personally know of 6-7 people who are going to resign the minute they get their increment (and that’s just the tip of the iceberg). People have realised that they’re dealing with someone shameless. Apparently MS knows sees these threads on LI and has asked his partners to “control” their associates better. This firm is anyways sinking but now he’s alienated his own associates so nobody cares. Personally, I’m taking my increment and then getting the f out of this shithole.

Hello LI Community.

I have been following this community for the last few months and have read so many things related to things like how the unprivileged guys never make it big in the legal profession.

Here, I am looking for clarity regarding my career dilemma.

I recently turned 21 and I am a 2023 graduate with a BA in English Honours from a local Govt University in West Bengal. I have decent academics - 55/92/85 (10th/12th/UG). I have done my schooling in Bengali medium.

I come from a family of daily wage labour workers, agricultural labourers, etc. So basically, I am very poor economically. I have lived all my life in a village and don't have any connections whatsoever in any cities or in the legal fraternity.

My parents can't give any money to me for any higher studies.

I am fascinated by law and the career prospects it provides.

Here are two choices that I have - 1) Look for a normal job that gives me the money to survive myself and then prepare for 3 Years of LLB Exams and try to get into a Good government college so I can get some scholarship and hostel to live and also some part-time jobs for some pocket money. Then after completing LLB, pursue a career in Litigation or Corporate. 2) Look for a normal job that gives me the money to survive and prepare for various non-technical Govt job exams such as SSC, Railway, Banking, Insurance, etc, and join the government sector and take care of myself and my family.

Regarding 1) I am confident that I can get into a Good College like DU by 2025 and regarding 2) I am confident that I will get a job by 2026-27 if I start preparing from the beginning of 2024.

As stated above, I come from a poor family and my parents can't give any money to me. I am on my own now.

Please, reply to those who have come from very humble backgrounds and have made a decent life in the legal profession.

Please, burst my illusion that I can make it big in the legal profession without any privilege.

Mod pls provide a link to any thread where this kind of issue has been discussed.

Thank you In Advance to everyone. I shall be obliged to whoever helps me in figuring out some clarity.

Some matters involve multiple issues and some of them would be beyond his expertise and will require the help of partners from other teams. So you need to have access to good lawyers from other practice areas as well. AZB provides that and going independent will lead to him losing these matters.

"Quality of students"? Bro people from the 3-year LLB literally cried because the Moot problems for Univ rounds used to be too difficult for them to even participate. This is also the batch that struggles to make it into Journals or any inter-batch position without reservation.

Yes, a few people are actually intelligent and hard-working but they are in single digits only!

For corp, there is Rahul Singh and Sudhanshu. Both of them teach well. They will probably hire another person next year as there will be 3 sections for Corp law next year. Subjects like Law and Tech etc are mostly taught by visiting profs in the form of electives. The reason why I put Raag on the list is because he teaches well. Personally, I have enjoyed Nigam's class.

Obviously yes. Strong stock market = strong economy = strong job market . Those downvoting are people of a certain political affiliation living in denial and upset over the assembly election results.

However, one caveat: jobs will mostly be available for well educated and skilled professionals. The challenge is to provide jobs for uneducated and low-skilled workers. The way to do that is to promote India as a manufacturing hub. Easy land acquisition is essential.

1. That has not been true in the Indian context at least.

2. But then, the government has to be a capitalistic one, right? The present one is as fond of handouts and other populist measures as a socialist government when it suits its purpose. Crony-capitalism and free market capitalism are not the same thing insofar as jobs are concerned.

Before the trolls start flexing here, I will just give you some objective deets.

1. Placement and internship-wise, there is virtually no difference between the two places. It has got more to do with the individual student, since both the places will offer similar opportunities. In the last two years, NALSAR students have had better foreign firm placements, before that for a couple of years, NUJS did. However, since the opportunities for vacation scheme and training contracts offered, as well as alum presence in firms domestic or international are more or less comparable, it's really up to you to use those and make your own career.

2. Campus-wise, NALSAR is way bigger, but located in a remote area far away from Hyderabad. The travel to Hyderabad is regular but long and at times, inconvenient. Compared to that, NUJS is smaller, but located in the middle of Kolkata with all necessary amenities. Space crunch because of smaller campus versus everything a phone call/app push away, including restaurants, medical facilities, multiplexes, supermarkets etc. You figure out which one suits you the better. You may even pay a visit to both depending on your resources and then take the final call.

3. You did not ask about faculty/admin, but I would say that NALSAR admin currently has an advantage over NUJS, which will again see a regime change next year. Faculty are more or less comparable, with a few good ones at both the places and bad apples too. Students are given a say in both the places, maybe a little more at NUJS. Peer group will be comparable, though for some reason, I have found that NALSAR students are less inclined to opt for academia for career in general, although there are well-known exceptions.

Itna mat daro yaar. Chill. Apne state ke HC ke kisi advocate ke under kaam karo. Free mai bhi 3-4 mahine karna padhe toh Karo. Prove your loyalty to the person. Then he/she may start giving you stipend. And if you are into judiciary and litigation side, then certainly corporate ko eliminate kardo.

Also, you will have to dust your overthinking nature. Apply Karo khulke. Court jao and contact people. And apply karte huye bhi batao you have prepared for judiciary. That is a plus point. Yeh mat socho ke reply aya toh interview le sakte hai. Fir what will I say.

And litigation can really turn around things. It has for many. It definitely takes time. But you can do it, my friend. All the best and take care.

AAP has not shown any interest in NLUD unlike the previous Congress government. On the other hand, GNLU has traditionally enjoyed a good relationship with the BJP government in the state. They also focus on career oriented professional courses more than NLUD does, which makes them a better bet for placements. On the other hand, NLUD students normally do better in UPSC, policy body, academia. The proximity of NLUD to SC also means a steady stream of good visiting faculty and guest lectures.

Neatly. Some people say don't waste time formatting, but make things bold in your word doc, made numbered lists instead of huge passages, and made it extremely clear and understandable - so that they don't have to waste time trying to figure out what you've done, it helps. If you're sending cases/articles/acts/orders, highlight the relevant parts - even if they're going to have to read the entire thing, the highlighted part lets them know whether or not it's worth reading

only a Links partner can confidently answer if they have a lockstep or a modified lockstep. Depending on that, he will have certain points which may or may not qualify as "full equity". Even if equity, there's a huge disparity based on where you are at the lockstep. Singapore market is still not as huge as NY/ London and Links is not a US firm so $2.5 - 3 million is what you need to promise but as long as you deliver $1-1.5 million the firm will hope that you'll be able to do better in the coming years.

Working with colleagues from tier 2/3?, corp lawyers do be the most classist set of people I've ever seen. If they can do their job there is nothing wrong in being from a tier 2/3 college, you're acting as if this is a con for working in any firm (🤓🤓colleagues should only be from tier 1 🤓🤓).

Ever have I ever seen a IITian friend put "colleagues are not IITian" as a con.

What I am suggesting you do is:

1. Keep the concerned post/comments up and running.

2. Let readers give context in the comments section as to whether it is true or not. Meaning, let the platform's users moderate the platform themselves.

3. Twitter is doing it and it works!

4. If it is really hateful or incites violence/self harm, etc., then unpublish it.

They struggled before him. He wasn't too experienced anyway. That's why he left. Being in a law firm requires nerves. Not all are capable. Yes, work atmosphere etc isn't too great. Has seen high attrition off late. Rajaram is a short term solution. The MP doesn't have money issue and is happy in personal life. Plug can be pulled anytime. This is more of a hobby. Don't think about a career here. You may see boss going into "philanthropy"

There cannot be a straight answer to it.

Criminal is evergreen but less complex (on the law side). There is good money even at trial stage because of the sense of urgency. Civil is interesting, legally complex, long litigations. Mediocre Advocates have sustained themselves on taareek pe taareek.

Finally some people spoke about the true situation at Mirchi Route. This needed to be bought out. Especially on the number of firings on irrelevant issues and ego. Only firms that are bad publicise so much to cover up their wrongdoings. I think all those fired should come ahead and speak! Nothing wrong with you'll. Issue is with the firm. They don't pay top tier money to give up life and self esteem. Please speak up. Throw out their social media non sense

Had interned via a reference in my second year and had been privy to the B&F team in the firm's Mumbai office. Work is very good quality and partners were pleasant to work with. Can second the guy from Symbi, they don't really take interns and fail to have a particular internship system in place.

All fake figues. Seems like a promotion by Wadia. 75L is a joke! I got a partner interviewing with me. He gave statement of 45 lakhs 😂 that's what our SA's earn. I've interviewed and seen the salary. Also, not to mention, the particular partner did not get the job. This was not litigation. He was non litigation. Don't want to mention more to disclose the person. Also B&F associates are desperate to quit. They don't have relevant experience. They may have interned in

Horrible. Don't spoil career and future for this place. It's publicly known that khaitan has been firing Or forcing people out of late. They use you worse than a toilet paper. Can throw you out unused. This post is probably by the hr to get people for work and then throw out again. Don't fall for it. It's had the highest attrition rate. I've seen people quit in desperate circumstances. Someone above spoke about own firm too. Join if you have backup!

Not possible. JSA has recruited Sid-art Modi as a rainmaker! His books is way fatter than AR! He has a fatter book even if pages are empty. Ashwath will split his votes but Mody will reign. They don't need AR when they have Mody. Modi is king and vishwaguru. This is fake news. Let AR try all he may, rahega toh Mody hi! Best corp team at JSA. Rest are wannabes eating crumbs of this team. JSA didn't have a decent corporate practice before Mody + team was poached. Very unlikely they will destabilize that team. Also Ashwath wouldn't join this place. He'd better go back to cam or join peers at Trilegal. This post has just been created to destabilize Mody by jealous people, but will not be successful. JSA doesn't need Ashwath and are doing well with current corporate partners. Thanks but no thanks! We don't need anyone from AZB, CAM Or khaitan!

Total 120 seats. 1:5 Part B checking ratio. So, 120*5=600 copies will be checked.

Removing all kinds of reservations, out of 120 seats, if you are a General Non Karnataka male you have 48-49 seats to compete. Now, since reservation is applied on each step of the process, if we take the 1:5 answer booklet checking ratio of Part B, you need to be in 48*5=240.

So in all the students who are taking the exam, you need to be in the top 240 in Part A, to have Part B checked. It's not a guarantee of selection, but getting Part B checked. These are the rules of the game that coaching wallah don't emphasise much (and continue singing the 75 percentile in Part A song on loop) which later leads to heartbreaks.

What I understood from the 2023 Exam was that those General Male Non Karnataka candidates who almost topped Part A and completed the whole 8 passages + completed the whole Part B with good enough answers in all questions and essay were able to get admission. Meaning you need to ace the paper. It is not that impossible to be honest, as I completed part B fully and 6 passages of part A (while leaving 2 passages that cost me), and the marks just add up in the end. But the message is, you need to ace the paper to get in.

Thanks. Bye.

Fellow Litigators of LI, please post your salary , city , PQE and rant below.

Feel free to post shamelessly about how litigations is frustrating , challenging , rewarding , stimulating , satisfying or exhausting - as per your own experience. Go ahead !

(PS :- People working in Disputes Team of Law Firm and not handling their own matters are kindly requested to excuse themselves from this thread)

Someone told me about this thread so had to post. First of all, this video was not to be shared in public and whoever did it is wrong. Secondly, although I am not defending the students, the situation is even worse in other NLUs. I am told in one top NLU a student was watching porn on his laptop openly.

I am registered with the Bar Council of Delhi but currently working out of my home state (MP). Can I register with the MP HC Bar Association?

Also, can I have multiple association memberships? One in Delhi and one in MP? (I am not talking about advocate registration, only bar association membership).

Hi! I have a PPO with a T1 and am interested in GC/M&A. However, since I am based in Delhi, I wanted to know whether there are corporate partners who do excel in Delhi since all I hear is the raving scene of corporate in Mumbai. Is it necessary to work in the Mumbai office to do well in this field later in life?

Can someone please confirm whether Rahul Chatterji (NUJS 2008 alumnus) is currently an equity partner at Linklaters? I know that he's previously worked for A&O, Goldman Sachs and Milbanks, and been a partner at Shearman and Sterling before. If he is not an equity partner at Links, can someone explain what sort of book one normally needs to have in order to become an equity partner at Links? No trolling please, this is needed for a genuine cause that I am not at liberty to disclose fully.

Wont tell me my background and what I do.

I am unable to function for past 2-3 years , I get heart palpitations daily , unable to concentrate , restless and unable to sit for even few minutes - I continuously scroll and use my phone till my eyes and head hurt and I fall asleep.

Part of it is due to no guidance at home and no one to talk to. Had a few friends who also got busy in their lives while I continue to rot in my room trying to take guidance from random forums and youtube on how to make a career in law. How to get job.

I wish I could do more

I wish I could snap out of my bad phase

I wish I could get a job and buy things I have always wanted to

I vehemently dispute your premise of the argument. Judging a 2 year old law course with flagship BALLB course is intellectual dishonesty and comparison of apples and oranges.

Give this course 5 years tops. It will beat BALLB hands down. The quality of students, the diversity of thought and the richness of discourse is way ahead than what BALLB can envision.

Mostly hire other lawyers or atleast take advice from other lawyers, similar to how a psychiatrist or any doctor will get a 2nd opinion and not self diagnose.

Mostly because not all lawyers have expertise is all matters, it's not worth the risk. And also somewhat because since it's a personal matter there is room for prejudice which may hamper quality of arguments.

Cannot earn through YouTube, can earn decent only through sponsorships you get due to YouTube, less opportunities for sponsorships for legal teaching. The only way it will provide monetory benefit is when after getting somewhat famous you sell your own course/coaching/video lectures. Otherwise it's just public service no side hustle.

It is a function of may things.

(a) how much you've billed (and recovered) in the previous year
(b) profitability/margins (salaries to team, overheads)
(c) additional origination credits for work that you generated but was executed by other partners
(d) in case of lala firms, whether you're a salaried partner or equity
(e) in case of Trilegal, number of partnership points per your position in the lockstep....

But on average can be anything between 1cr and 4-5cr on the higher end of the scale for someone who's been a partner for 5 years at a T1. 4-5cr is the exception, most of us would be closer to 2cr.

I am working as a Marketing Manager in a company for past 6 years. I did my llb a decade ago. I recently enrolled as an Advocate before bar Council of maharashtra.

I forgot anything and everything about laws. My enrollment and aibe is only for some official purposes. I won't be practicing. But I have to clear aibe exam.

How do I start to prepare for aibe exam? How to pass this. Please help.

Hello there, I am a 1st year student at a T3 NLU from a non law bg. Sufficed to say there isn't a strong alum base or much mentorship from seniors or profs. I would like to know the best way to build my cv. what looks good and what doesn't. How important are grades? Which co-curriculars are actually worth it.

Since I am not in a T1 college, What are some achievements that can affirm your capabilites and competencies to a possible recruiter?

Back in college in 2010s I decided to start a youtube reaction channel, however I found the idea ridiculous and thought I'd be a laughing stock. Years later guess what happened? Jio boom... Internet boom... YouTube boom... Reaction channel boom. Something I thought was ridiculous is now earning lakhs for some people. Having said that, I feel the youtube channel boom has now reached a plateau. Will it dip or rise more, who knows. However, if you're content is good enough, you may sustain a side hustle. However remember what stays on the net will stay forever. If you end up teaching a controversial part of law, it may cost you a proper teaching job in college. I mean there's bound to be someone who finds your channel and complains it to the authority. For example you support Palestine on your channel based on human rights law and the college authority sees you as anti-national. Who knows. So you have to decide if you want to be a celebrity teacher or a college professor. That would decide how you need to start a channel.

LI has unfortunately gone back to its old ways, both in terms of speed and neutrality. I suspect the new moderators have left and the old one is back in charge. High time LI pulls up its socks. The answer is to form a community of mods across law schools who can moderate and do so transparently, honestly and quickly. LI has the potential to be what PagalGuy is for MBA students and aspirants but they are just sitting idle.

This honestly sounds inconceivable to me. As someone from one of the NLUs you mentioned in brackets in your OP, I relate to your record but can't fathom landing t1 internships off of the fake contacts I've made at previous workplaces. and applying individually lands me nowhere lol

Hi - so I've been reading multiple posts on LI about toxic work culture and wanted to know what is it in your opinion. I've had colleagues who crib about one Saturday a month working as unreasonable and someone who works every weekend be okay with that

Some juniors are happy because they go and ask for help (at work/ bandwidth management) and get it. Others are unhappy because they expect to be taught things and shouldn't be expected to know.

While I understand it's a personal call, what exactly is toxic work culture. Is it the hours, the nature/ behavior or seniors, the lack of empathy in the team?

Sure. Open a YouTube channel and share your knowledge. But, don't think of it as a way to earn money. Follow the freemium model.

For e.g. - look at Canva. It's free version is enough to make good enough ppts, videos, reels, posters. So, people needing it on a regular basis pay for it.

Similar is InsightsOnIndia. This Karnataka based IAS coaching revolutionised UPSC prep with it's Secure initiative where they gave ready made question answers based on The Hindu/Indian express editorials. Now people are paying for their classes while Secure is still free.

Same is the case with Rodha for Cat. Literally people get great marks just by studying his free YouTube playlist.

So, for 1y give free gyan. Best quality current affairs and other things asked. Later, start a 100 student focus batch or something with mentoring.

YouTube thing slowly grows. The first 1000 subs are extremely difficult. Uske baad you can manage. Also, contact aevytv for video editors and make good quality reels if you have money.

All the best!

when 50% of the seats are going to reservation for people who are second generation or third generation recipients of reservation advantage what is wrong if someone taking an advantage which is offered through the NRI and comes under the merit list. As far as one can look at the merit list of NRI quota it closes way before the reservation quota ranks.