might be freshers i.e. toppers from Top 5 NLUs - who cannot take in pressure & blame the system for every minor inconvenience such as long hours, deadlines and billing pressures. Lets now see how folks with specilaized banking experience from Wadia, SNG, Link Legal or Argus get poached basis lateral hiring (if there's Mumbai attrition).

Not really. I’ve done an LLM abroad. Your statement stands true if one is trying to pivot out of practising law and taking up some other role abroad. If you’re striving to practice as a lawyer in a foreign jurisdiction, the unfortunate truth is that firms abroad only know about SAM, CAM, AZB etc. I directly felt the impact of this because I didn’t have these firms on my resume when I was abroad. It’s a different matter that I joined them after coming back and got the fuck out as soon as I could.

Id have to respectfully disagree with the comment above. If you’re handling commercial matters, your skills are transferable across various industries. I’ve been in three completely different in-house roles in terms of sectors. That said, there are certain limitations. For example if you’ve never done regulatory work, it’s unlikely that a fintech company or bank will hire you because the industry is comparatively more regulated than other sectors. Also, switching between industries isn’t great from a long term career POV. I tried a variety of roles early on but I’ve now stuck to one industry and will consciously look to stick to it going forward. As a younger attorney, a change in industries is hardly a risk- explore while you can. You get slotted in later and then it becomes difficult and like I mentioned, also not advisable from a career progression perspective.

Trilegal is very quickly going to turn into CAM but without the big clients or the big money.Doomsday soon.Hiring partners like this is only going to lead to chaos and politics because partners switch law firms easily but not necessarily clients.So many partner hired,are there any big deals from Tri camp?Any major new client ?Eventually when partners start to have stressful days everyone in those teams is going to have hard life.Then starts the shouting, constant bickering,politics,sabotaging of deals to make some partner and that team look bad etc etc.Homegrown talent is the 1st to leave,the foundations of law dirms weakens.Collapse of the law firm is inevitably and swift.

As someone who has mediocre marks but exceptional work experience, marks only matter if you're choosing the RCC route. I got in a firm in my 2nd year through LinkedIn, stayed there for 2 years, the guy helped me get into a t-1 in 4th year now. Never really cared about marks as I never wanted to go through the RCC route (due team and location issue)

Drop this entitled whiny tone and think of this as an opportunity. Show up early, say hello brightly, be proactive and do everything you are asked to with enthusiasm. The main partner can also swing you a PPO which very few senior associates can do. If you take work from them, tell them that you'll need to prioritise the partner if he calls for you but you are happy to help in the meantime. If the partner does call for you there is no need to mention you have other work. Just say you are available, and that although you were helping someone out, that can wait.

It's not impostor syndrome, as an intern, you're really not supposed to have much of a clue to begin with about the work that the associates do. However, you will learn in your month there. Keep an eye out for associates busy at work, ask them if you can be of any assistance. If nothing, ask other co interns what work they have been given, try looking those up, it will help you learn and get a picture of what things are happening at the very least. Have your lunch at desk, that's the time some people have work to assign and most interns won't be around.

your sector is very important if you are considering an in-house role. If you start at oil and gas, you are stuck in oil and gas. Similarly, if you start in banks/NBFCs, your whole life would involve staying in the finance line with a specific emphasis on lender (project) finance. The point I'm trying to make is that choose your sector very carefully because there's very less possibility to completely switch sectors from a hiring POV.

Your ignorance is amusing. Everyone pays the 7th CPC, I said the salary scales are lower even within the 7th CPC. Just FYI, at this point NFSU's annual budget is more than the Top 10 State NLUs combined. It is clear that state NLUs are shaken by the advent and growth of NFSU, and that shows in the tone of your comments. That said, do you even realize that NFSU is merely a 3-year-old university, and look at the waves it is creating already?

10 years. All spent on competitive exams, LLM & PhD. Returned to litigation as that was the only place ready to accept a loser like me. Worked for 3 years & shifted to a tier2 law firm. Worked there for another 3 years. Finally in a tier1. Hated each and every day at work, working under people younger than me, who only had an advantage cause they joined earlier than me.

No girlfriend, no friends, no family, nothing left.

The struggle with every passing year is difficult. The most challenging part is getting your foot in the door. The first job is the toughest to get. If you can do that. Then the rest depends on continuously showing up to work. Each passing year gives you work exp to put on a CV and vertical climbing becomes easier as the years roll on.

In the end; in life, jobs will be lost, relationships will be broken, money will disappear, friends and family will leave you, but the only thing that stops you is death. And as long as you're alive you have the chance to change things around. So never stop moving. You're just walking slower than others, nonetheless you're still walking.

Moral: it's not over untill you say it's over.

Stay alive, hustle, struggle and only allow death to end your journey. Peace out.

Honestly cant relate to GenZ and their mindset. I dont even know what their mindset and compass is.

I am a Gen x and we have beeb raised differently (Hard Hand, Poverty , Lack of resources). I relate more to Millenials. Millenials are very very decent and in my eyes - Trainable for me. Easier for me to train and talk.

I am constantly worried that I may have accidently hurt a Gen Z intern or an A0. As a consequence, I try to talk and deal very less with GenZ Interns and A0s. Just the gap. Not that they are Bad.

Fewer? Got any stats to prove that? For that matter, got any stats to show that things have improved at all? If it did, then BJP wouldn't have desperately tried not to hold elections. As for the reforms you spoke of, none of those depended on the abrogation of 370. Modi has shown no indication that he cares for the people other than to get hold of the Hindu population of Jammu and increase the number of seats from there so that it contributes to him staying in power.

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And you sound like ChatGPT, trying to peddle a place that's a nobody in the legal education sector in this country. Fear and jealousy, lol! Delusional much? Most of the readers know by now that you occasionally comment through the Guest handles because you are the only one who gets paid to sing praises of NFSU.

Infra is good. Students are not bad, just one bad CLAT day away from getting into a better place. Faculty are so-so. If you cannot make it through to places till HNLU and cannot afford the better known private places like Symbi, then you may opt for it and then focus and work hard. You can still pursue most of the different career choices available after law school from RGNUL, just the ecosystem may not be as conducive to it as the older NLUs.

I have something to contribute here.

As a senior member of my team in a tier I practice, I have had my share of recommending candidates for hire. As someone coming from a bottom tier NLU who was academically mediocre I detested the system of hiring based on ranks. While my academic credentials were nothing to write home about, I did fairly well in moots and publications. Nothing ground-breaking though.

When I was in a position to change things, I pushed a lot of associates for hire who demonstrated hard work in internships irrespective of college attended, academics or rank. 6/8 times this has bitten me in the rear. All 5 times, the candidates did not perform close to what they did during the internship and lazed around like anything. The other 2 kids were top notch. This taught me the futility of trying to gauge the quality of a candidate through internships + interview. Its a hit or miss.

However, 4/5 candidates hired during the same time (campus placement) from top 4 NLUs were fantastic. All these candidates were academically high achievers. They may not have been the sharpest tool all the time, but they had tremendous work ethic. Their ability to put their head down and get the work done was fantastic. In a couple of years they are/were by far the best associates in the team.

Now, my policy is simple. I just ask HR to hire any kid which is from a top NLU and is a ranker or a topper from any other college. Of course, the kids are grilled for basic level competence in interviews. This does not mean that good kids are not available else where. Its just that the risk involved in hiring such kids is higher.

Good academics demonstrate the ability to do an undesirable activity consistently for a long time and achieve excellence. A skill highly sought after in law firms. Comparatively, its easier to keep focus in short term interesting activities like publications / moots. That's why it is preferred to hire academically sound kids.

I wasted too much time on this. Bye.

It depends on a lot of factors. General things that firms look at are college, CGPA, co-curricular activities (papers/ moots/ debates, etc.). Some firms like CAM and SAM are a bit more focused on batch ranks. While it may seem harsh, most T1 firms have a preference for T1 NLUs, though they do hire from outside these as well- but for that you will have to compensate in another area- co-curricular, great internships, very good understanding of the area in which you wish to work or if all else false, have good networks. That said, don't worry too much about the CGPA. It is only a metric (which is the easiest for firms/ companies to comprehend), but which in no way determines how good of a lawyer you would be in the future. I have personally seen people with average CGPA and not top notch colleges be phenomenal at firms as well at courts. Study and work hard and most firms would be open to take you in the long term. Best of luck!

BREAKING: All the CMS have now been named, with Rajasthan announcement coming moments ago, They are:

Telangana - Revanth Reddy

MP - Mohan Yadav

CG: Vinod Sai

Rajasthan: Bhajan Lal Sharma

All greenhorns and no known connections with any NLU. Doubt if it will help the NLUs.

To be honest no. They don't know how "dumb and ineffective" these people are, even if they indeed are so. That is your view. When they are presented with several 100 CVs of potential interns, what other way is there to select? Its like saying why should a law college select on the basis of the toppers of CLAT and not see all rounders who excel in other areas. This is an entry. Once in, prove yourself.

I am a student from a mid-ranked NLU (tier 2) and have landed a job at t1 firm. Been working for close to 6 months - plan on working for 1 year before taking a drop to study for upsc. If I don’t manage the services, will a 1 year pqe be enough for me to land back at a T1? Any insights would be much appreciated. Thanks.

Is Trilegal on a hiring freeze or are they still giving out offers to BO' 24? They seem to expanding left, right and centre with many lateral partner hirings, thus wanted to know if this is a good time for a T2 NLU student in their 5th year to intern there, provided one secures the internship.

i have been in this exact same position as you, and i will tell you to choose ipu- a decent college like ggsipu or vips a million times over. being in delhi is an advantage you should not miss out on- there is nothing crazy in dsnlu.

but you could be in delhi, go to chambers or take up a paralegal role at law firms and easily pull off internships that run into months. there are quite a few ipu grads doing exceptionally well at tier 1 law firms and again, its not like dsnlu is killing it in that area.

be smart, stay in delhi and learn to work here in your practice area of choice. a lowly tier 3 nlu tag will not help you in the future. learnt it the hard way myself.

Not any more of a disaster than it is now under Mo-Sha, with unemployment and inflation soaring high, income disparity skyrocketing, less and less money being spent on research, education and health, communal disharmony, regionalistic petty egoism, distrust against own countrymen, all government agencies and autonomous bodies losing their credibility, no market liberalisation, soaring tension with neighbours and zero faith left on the legislature, executive and judiciary.