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JK. I know you wont present a coherent argument- youll just call people bigoted for not agreeing with you. You dont even really care about being right or telling the truth- you like shaming people- women- for having opinions that are different than yours.
I love JKR- she made her billions by writing a wonderful childrens book and she could have walked away with it but she spends a lot of that money helping women and shes unafraid of bullies who would call her bigoted- she will stand for women no matter what. Thats moral courage.
Go on- tell me exactly what JKR has said that you find to be objectionable?
https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/delhi/ashoka-university-student-government-seeks-boycott-of-exchange-programme-with-tel-aviv-university-9311219/
https://en-law.tau.ac.il/partner_institutes
1. If you work at an institution with reasonably good accessibility infrastructure and a good disability service (I know this sounds largely like an institution in the west at this point, but let's go with it for the sake of argument, as such things should slowly be coming to India, and this point would translate well if you were to work as an academic in the west), follow all reasonable/sensible advice you receive from those in your institutional administration to make your teaching materials accessible. For example, if they tell you that the best accessibility practice would be to upload/assign a PDF as a reading on a Virtual Learning Environment after putting it through SensusAccess or some equivalent accessibility conversion package first that converts image-based PDFs into accessible typed text, it might be better to just do it, rather than see it as “another useless request from the administration”. Remember if you don’t, your student will have to, only increasing the unfair burden on them. At the same time, use your discretion wisely and follow your instincts. Ask yourself, "Is this advice necessarily the best way to do things for a blind person?". This might especially arise if, for example, a document with lots of Mathematical symbols is involved. Therefore, in one sentence, listen to your student, good advice on accessibility practices and your instincts.
2. I think any student with support needs would appreciate if you asked them what they needed in a classroom to better facilitate their learning. Even if you know, just ask, because the answer might be different from blind student to blind student, as not all blind students are the same (one may have a tiny amount of vision where another has none, one might have learned Braille where another hasn’t, one may choose to ask a fellow student to support them by being a notetaker while another might be able to juggle hearing the professor speak while at the same time typing out their notes and listening to the screen reader… you get the point, we aren’t a monolith). But never, ever, ask about or discuss things like accessibility or exam/assessment adjustments in front of other students. You are opening your future blind/disabled student up to potential humiliation and bullying, which you don’t want. In addition, if you are going to do some kind of exercise that may not be the typical back-and-forth of students discussing and answering the teacher’s questions, e.g., getting a student to read something aloud, ask again in advance how your blind student can/will do it. To go with the reading aloud example, some blind people may not find it easy to read aloud, either because they haven’t learned Braille/don’t use it often or find it hard to coordinate between listening to a screen reader, while at the same time reading, which might make them feel embarrassed or humiliated in participating in such an exercise.
3. Learn to be as verbal as you possibly can. Remember, everything you do visually (writing on a board, illustrating how price elasticity of demand works etc.) has to now be described. Get very good at describing in a way which isn’t spoon-feeding. One very embarrassing thing that often happens in classes with blind students is that, when there is a show of hands to answer a question, the teacher says ‘yes’ while looking at/pointing to the blind student. This will leave a blind student confused as to whether you want them to answer or not, leading to awkward pauses. Always say the name, or if you really have trouble remembering names, don’t break these awkward pauses with impatience; remember your student is navigating layers of judgementalism from their fellow sighted course-mates, in a classroom designed for and by sighted people, in conformance with the expectations of a sighted society, in a sighted world.
4. Returning to point 1, it is always good practice to let your student, university library and university disability service (if and where any such thing is available) know of what textbook(s) will be assigned in class in advance. If chapters from multiple books will be assigned, this is also fine, just let all applicable stakeholders know. This gives time for accessible copies of the set text(s) to be procured well in time from publishers if and where available, or scanned by librarians/disability support officers where that is needed.
5. If you are teaching a class on legal research/database usage, learn how databases are perceived by screen reader users. In simpler terms, understand how to navigate legal databases using only keyboard keys/shortcuts, rather than a mouse. Instructions such as “scroll here” or “click on the red arrow” won’t work, with workable alternatives being things like “Scroll using tab/arrow keys [where appropriate]” or “select the ‘advanced search’ option”, because screen readers can’t be used with a mouse meaningfully, and they read out the names of icons/buttons to their users, and do not describe colours/arrows. If you are training your student to use one of the prominent western legal databases (Westlaw, Lexis Nexis etc.), find out if your university/law school can arrange for your blind student to receive training from specialists who work for those databases who know how to train blind people to use them; if your law school hasn’t done such a thing before, get them to do it. Relating to verbalising and descriptions above, remember that stuff their sighted counterparts will take in by looking will often have to be told to a blind person. For example, the convention of underlining case names in the OSCOLA citation style is something the sighted will pick up organically from looking at articles/books’ footnotes/end notes, but something you may have to tell a blind student. Don’t be afraid to mention this as assignment feedback, if necessary. Suppose you are marking a Tort essay that is to be written using OSCOLA and you see that a blind student isn’t underlining case names, something they should have learned about in legal research classes, just give it as feedback, they may not have been told by a careless sighted colleague of yours and may not be told again by colleagues who may take pity or whatever, but instead have such things come back to bite them later.
What does everyone here think and what’s the gossip in your law firms? How are your stocks doing?
I know Unilever pays well and isn't toxic. Heard the same about Mondelez too. Any other names?
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Anyone here who got internship at tier 1 firms like cam/ sam/Khaitan/Indus/trilegal/AzB
Without any connection or references but with direct application through mailing CV with many follow-ups obviously.
If yes pls do tell.
Indirect (Like excluding you from group activities, not considering your opinion as valuable): A lot of discrimination
How do you write research projects ? For me a lot of that writing is rewriting and editing ? Wouldn’t that be awkward and difficult with speech to text ? And footnotes and citations ? How do you manage that while being blind ?
HELP
CLAT is an APTITUDE test. Do you know what aptitude is ?
How are students supposed to read James Mill and Jeremy Bentham and Foucault and Catherine Mackinnon and Adam smith and Ronald Dworkin without the baseline English language skills ? No one is being tested on their knowledge of Shakespeare - they’re being tested on basic reading comprehension in English because the medium of instruction is English. If these are national universities in any sense it’s that Hindi is not the language of teaching. There are many universities in this country where Hindi is the language of instruction - you don’t have to go to an NLU and they don’t have to accept you if you will not be able to do the coursework. If we do accept that we need to account for class by reducing English use - can nls set it’s paper in Kannada ? Or nalsar in Telugu ? Or nujs in Bengali ? You wouldn’t like that very much would you ?
How is logic relevant ? Logic and
Argument is the basis of all the work lawyers do. Many of the tasks you list can be done by clerks. People don’t just appear for bail hearings and sit around- they actually have to argue with someone else- the prosecutor. Are logic puzzles really that hard to solve ? Do you really think Brahmins and baniyas are born with superior logic brains ? They don’t teach logical reasoning in any school as any sort of subject or module. People learn logical reasoning - which is basically just puzzle solving - for exams by practicing them. Dalit students are as capable of that task as anyone else.
How is general knowledge important ? Sorry to say but they have newspapers across the country in almost every language imaginable - it’s not difficult to have decent general knowledge. How do we begin to start teaching political science if the kid doesn’t know if we have presidential or parliamentary government and doesn’t know what an election commission is or how many states there are ? You assuming Dalit people don’t know this because they’re just inferior is the bigoted thing.
Maths ? Algebra ? Geometry ? What are you on about ? There’s no higher order math that’s tested in this exam - it’s a very basic level of math problem solving - in my year we were asked what the square root of 400 was. Charitably one could say you’re being tested on 6th standard maths when you’re in tenth standard- if you need to whip out a calculator every time you have to give change or do percentages in the real world or understand cost price and selling price - you might just not be cut out for university level education- or just the outside world in general. Math again - is a universal language - and it’s possible for poor kids to learn it just as well as rich kids. And it’s actually just testing basic logic. The math section is actually put in there to counter balance for students who might not be strong in English.
None of this is problematic unless you believe firmly in the fixed inferiority of Dalits which I do not.
Rahul Gandhi and the Americans he’s aping are looking at disparities in educational outcomes and misdiagnosing the problem. It’s not that the test is too difficult or foreign - if anything it’s too easy and forgiving- the problem is that if you go to a bad school for ten years - you will not be able to do well on any test at the end. You need better schools. The problem isn’t caste - it’s class. Rich people regardless of caste can send their kids to private schools and can sit and teach them how to do homework after school and can hire tutors. Poor people cannot do that.
Why don’t UC folks just go to Jindal ? It might surprise you but most people at Jindal aren’t actually Brahmins. They’re rich kids who couldn’t crack exams. There are many poor UC kids and they deserve to go to state institutions that offer lower fees just as much as anyone else. I couldn’t have afforded Jgls - and for many of us from early CLAT batches - it was the same - we came from poor to middle class families all of us - even the UC kids. What unified us was that we studied really hard and really wanted to improve our circumstances and we begged for better teachers and we hadn’t given up on education as a project.
If you’re gonna argue that UC kids should go to private universities - you’re not making any claim about the examination being unfair - you’re making a claim that NLUs belong more to Dalits than to people from any other caste. And in my mind - that’s no better than bigots who would tell you there should be no reservations at all and that Dalits shouldn’t be allowed into NLUs. It’s the same bigotry.
What is your solution ? Do away with the paper as it is and ask questions in Hindi - so no South Indian or north easterner or even Bengali or Goan or Gujarati or punjabi can answer the paper. Just your Hindi belt kids. And have non elite GK ? Like what ? Which exact question is non elite enough for you ? Farming practices ? Are you outside of your mind ? Customs ? What about Dalits who wouldn’t know some customs or who have been denied farming as occupation ? Customs vary wildly by community - which exact customs should we test on ? Which exact village ? It’s a big country. Farming practices vary so wildly across the country it takes some scientists years to figure out all the intricacies- so we need questions that students across the country can answer - what questions ? You cannot actually answer that substantively - because when you do - you’ll set a standard that someone will fall under. Besides - no one goes to law school to become a farmer or to become a priest - they go to law school to become lawyers. You should know the name of the president of France by reading dainik Bhaskar every day or even semi regularly- this is not a question that prizes caste based knowledge. This literally is general knowledge. Your plan doesn’t make sure Dalits pass and UCs fail - your plan just makes sure that Hindi speakers do well and the rest of us are shut out.
If students pass this strange exam you’ve created and all nlus are now state institutions teaching in regional languages - then you can bet they will not be getting placements in the numbers they are now. The law firms will be the first to leave - and the in house practices and government organisations will follow suit. And there will be a stigma attached to students that pass out from there because they’ve gotten in via a reduced standard and that will lead to reduced rigor in education. None of those kids will be able to overcome their circumstances at all. If you want to be separatist - you will have to think carefully about what you may gain or lose.
American universities bought into the nonsense that the SATs were racist and did away with them - you know what happened ? Dumber and dumber students were admitted. Rich students whose parents could afford for them to be doing several extra curriculars we’re admitted - fewer meritorious students from poor backgrounds - immigrants from china or India - could be admitted because they could only take tests and top them - they couldn’t be the head of a lacrosse team. Now those universities have realised that doing away with SATs led to a lack of diversity and are course correcting by introducing the test again.
Also, there are plenty of resources online to read up about queerness, including several created by queer people or groups. Make use of them.
It’s a mens rights movement that focuses on what creates comfort for men , pronoun use, males in female spaces , males in womens prisons and males in womens sports and male doctors who don’t have to tell you they’re male when performing intimate care. And we cannot acknowledge women have babies and abortions because that’s transphobic- because trans women cannot have abortion or babies and that hurts their feelings.
Why does what is basically a mens rights movement not target men ? But women ? What do you think ?
While men can and should be perfectly good parents - they cannot be mothers. And mothers deserve their own damn word that acknowledges that unique bond. And that acknowledges that women - that mothers - might need support that goes beyond what men need.
In this particular case - this is about a 14 year old kidnapping and rape victim and whether she should have to carry the baby to term because she didn’t know she was pregnant until 26 weeks had elapsed.
Do you think that’s a plight that affects women more than men ? Is sex important here ? Does it matter ? Or do you presume equality of sexes here ?
You won't have any problem learning law. Actual legal teaching happens in the classroom and it assumes no prior knowledge.
You will forgive me if I say that you are making a classic mistake that so many applicants for these things do. It's not "how many years" that matters so much as the quality of the experience gained. What sort of work did you do? How specialized was it? How does it relate to your intended course of study/intended research? If you were looking at Oxbridge specifically, you could be a multi-million-dollar-earning Equity Partner at Kirkland & Ellis, but if your grades weren't up to scratch (i.e., you didn't have top grades), they wouldn't give tuppence about your work experience. Especially see what they say about references: they would much rather have academic references than professional ones from employers, it tells them much more about what an applicant will be like as a student. I think it hardly needs to be stated that a professor is more likely to give a former student with good grades a reference than do that for one with not-so-good grades, unless there were specific extenuating circumstances. Other non-Oxbridge Russell Group LLMs are slightly more willing to compromise, to a very limited extent, on the GPA-work experience balance. However, be warned that they would rather take someone with good grades and good work experience, as opposed to average grades even if their experience is good. As someone who got into a non-Oxbridge UK Russell Group LLM and is not ashamed to admit an Oxford rejection, always assume that applicants with top grades and fantastic experience are applying, and that you are a mere drop in the ocean. If you are specifically thinking/asking about quantity, this compromise effect would most likely kick in if you had at least five years PQE.
In the U.S., they will want to see how your work experience would make you fit better into their “law school community”. If you see the Harvard LLM website, for example, they mention having judges, law professors etc. from foreign countries as part of the cohort. Again for avoidance of disappointment and to prevent you sacrificing money in paying for application processing, I'd say take it as a rule of thumb that they'd prefer someone who's academically strong as opposed to someone who isn't: clearly demonstrated by the number of recommendation letters they require (minimum of two, maximum of five for Harvard specifically, if I remember right). Sorry about the length of the comment, but if you were to look at Yale, they specifically want people intending to go into academia, and view their LLM as a training ground for future academics. However strong the work experience, this would mean that their mindset likely is “top grades not present = bad student = rejection pile”. Some of these applications have processing fees of over $150, it’s your decision if you think it’s worth making them despite having grades that aren’t the very top on your profile that cannot be explained by extenuating circumstances, especially seeing as these might come to bite you later and result in your money being wasted when you get an email from their admission offices beginning “Dear applicant, unfortunately…”.
Do you use it for drafting rather than a PC/laptop, or any specific apps or features you wanna point out or do you just wanna gloat over the fact that you were able to over pay for piece of tech which at best seems to be having only one selling point - "Looks good"
What if I have no relation to the firm whatsoever?
Students probably are wasting their time in these BS protests.
Anyways they will still have another 5 years to protests against laws that Mudji brings
They probably dont care much.
NLUs Protested against CAA also and they reported but nothing else happened.
I better don't argument with people who consider Ravish and Dhruv as independent or consider that there is any media in whole world who is independent from politics.
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I cannot comprehend because I have seen so many bad arguments in internet that this looks to be real
But that makes me wonder whether I am at a disadvantage as compared to other students who know far more law at the moment than I do. I'm really anxious about how things will turn out in my tier 1 law school in the coming months. Please help!
We already have minorities being killed and persecuted in our neighbouring countries. We should protest for them not for Palestine or Israel.
And for the protests in American universities, The day tik tok gets banned, these students will come back to normal routine. I am pretty sure they cannot even point where Palestine on map is.
Why are you so excited for a country that has nothing to do with our nation?
Not everyone has freetime like JNU or Galgotia students or you to protests in matter not affecting you.
Advice for other law students is to speak up for injustice in our own country and Christians, Buddhists, Jains, hindus in neighbouring countries and stop following the trend of Western countries. We have African infra with American politics rn.
NB: If in any of the other replies I have given above, if you have received a reply from "Guest", that is likely because I forgot to change the display name from "Guest" to "Blindlaw2003".
They are paying 8 lpa and this is based out of bangalore.
Please answer if anybody has any ideas.
2. Following from no. 1, better training should be given to academics on how to communicate accessibly (e.g., describing slopes of demand/supply curves in an Economics class).
3. Networking problems: I often find it hard to network on my own in various situations, because the nondisabled feel uncomfortable to come talk to me for various reasons. Law schools can easily solve this problem by introducing a system such as having a blind person be accompanied by a sighted guide in a networking situation who can help them navigate around the room, while at the same time, helping them find and talk to people. There are precedents for this being done, read a book called ‘Haben: The Deafblind Woman who Conquered Harvard Law’, by Haben Girma (the first hearing-impaired and visually impaired person to attend and graduate from Harvard Law School with a J.D.). She describes how the Office of Career Services sent a careers advisor with her into an employer networking event to help out precisely with this.
Could you guys please drop some good names (along w the salary they offer) who I might try sending applications too. Ofc please add on to the big names like Ms. John, Siddharth Agarwala etc.
Thanks in advance.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/business/stock-market-may-be-falling-because-of-these-4-big-reasons-lok-sabha-elections-to-blame-101715071779942.html
LI has one question - is the convos section of LI accessible and well useable on screen readers or other assistive software? Any quick fixes or big problems you have encountered in navigating that we could improve or look into? Very grateful for any of ideas or tips!
Culture is fine - in Mumbai and Bang, huge team and thus a bit of lively culture one can say, not so much in the NCR office.
The interview will be about 3 rounds presumably, there are some who get hired in one but mostly 3.
B'luru is 1-step away from 10/10 on the said markers (we are building metros, yay!), however by-far the biggest barrier (hate is a strong word) which leads to most micro-issues, is a minor but persistent friction to become more liberal / creed-agnostic (general argument: so what? this also happens in Delhi/Mumbai/<insert other city in non-south> / People from x-part of the country are also same).
Apologies if I am being utopian/naive here, but these cities (esp. Hindi belt cities) should not be a benchmark of what the "best city" should be. Also not a huge fan of using 'immigrant'/'outsider' and anything that creates a us vs. them. Open to kindly worded critical thoughts? :)
Highly mundane task.
Better focus on your law career.
100% non-nepo kid. The experience with the Modi government no doubt helped and perhaps a bigshot in the government wrote a recommendation letter, but still a non-nepo kid who prospered on the basis of her work. So it's possible.
That's India for you.
Kid, if you're not a topper, I'd suggest you stay away from toxic workplaces that "only prefers toppers" and instead opt for a firm more keen on developing you professionally.
Coming from a non-topper from a non-NLU who got into Trilegal and AZB, lol.
Kudos and good luck!
We are having most of population under poverty but still want to do politics of America and European nations. ▮▮▮
I am not being homophobic but telling the truth. How much you try to do surgery and all but at the end nature has made you man or women until you are born with genetic defects.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-68965903
*Sad to see, a "Lawyer" jumping to conclusions without proper investigation.
I am straight, btw.
Or you can go to some Independent practice and learn. This would help you be independent and well versed with procedural aspects even if you had to go to a firm later on. I am not saying this gives you a sure shot placement but this will at least not leave you without any skills or experience.
Does he understand what a minor is? what a child is? when I was 14 I thought I would get my hogwarts letter any day now and I would grow up and marry justin timberlake and become the prime minister and the worst pain I was capable of imagining was falling off of bikes. And I couldnt keep a plant alive let alone a baby. Do we really think children are just- tiny adults? have we really lost all sense and understanding of developmental stages? If a 14 year old cannot drink, cannot vote, cannot get a tattoo, cannot fight in the army or work in a factory or cannot consent to sex- how is it we think a 14 year old should be able to consent to pregnancy, birth, and having a baby? Their brains are literally not developed enough to comprehend any of it. They havent thought about the risk to their bodies or their life let alone how to manage finances in a family. Its a kid!
He derides value judgments in the law about abortion of abnormal fetuses. Well - turns out thats what we have a legislature for- to make value judgments that we agree on as a society. It might be hard for the chief justice to understand- but we actually have a democracy and there might be some laws he disagrees with- but they are still valid laws passed by elected representatives. There is no reason to force women to carry for months and give birth to a baby that will not survive more than a few days outside the womb. Its cruel to not make that value judgment, its cruel to put women through that - they arent vessels here to birth babies - it takes a lot out of them to actually do that- emotional and physical- and it would be unspeakably cruel to force a mother to carry and birth a baby who will not live because of defects. Shes a person- she matters.
And why does he want to commit all this cruelty? to please some radical mad internet virtue signalling slacktivists? we have to start asking ourselves if he actually just ▮▮▮ ▮▮▮.