All the jerks tell themselves they are jerks because everyone else is. That's just an excuse. You can limit who you help and when. Niceness doesn't mean you owe everyone your time. But be nice. Notice who is nice to you. Over time you will accumulate a close circle of nice people and you will be happier than all the horrible selfish people. They may become partner before you but it will bring them no joy because they will be slimy and distrustful and be among people who are also like that. Over time the nice person is the one left with the real smile on their face. But it only works if you protect your time and don't resentfully do favors. When you do them, do them genuinely.

Chill. I can understand the desperation, but the Delhi we know of is a state, and NLUD too is a state university. Here's the link to the act: https://nludelhi.ac.in/download/act/mobile/index.html

Don't be only in work mode and go around asking about deals or work stuff. Talk about your interests and ask about theirs. Great chance for them to get to know you holistically, and not just the associate you are. Other way round as well. Don't treat it like only a networking thing where you speak to seniors and ignore peers. Peers have your back sometimes and some of those bonds are built during offsites. Don't get embarrassingly drunk. Don't do drugs. Be able to independently walk back to your room. Help out drunk colleagues who can't (offer it, don't push it). Ask for consent before helping them out (specially if not your gender). Don't hook up unless you want to be the office gossip.

This is an excerpt from the OP India article

>The critical information that Manu Sebastian missed in his thread is that this is a FRESH petition filed by Sharjeel Imam which is not at a hearing stage as far as bail is concerned. The FRESH petition was verified only on the 21st and on the 25th, it is set to be heard for ADMISSION. This would mean that on the 25th and thereafter, the court would first decide whether the petition itself is to be admitted. If the court decides to admit the petition, only then would the hearing on the bail and the prayers mentioned in the petition start. The court can just as well refuse to admit the petition and if that happens, the Supreme Court would not be hearing the merits of the bail and the prayers made in the petition at all.

Anyone who practices at the SC can easily identify the error in reasoning here. "For Admission Matters" in the cause list does not indicate that the arguments would be heard only after the SLP stands admitted.

>Therefore, it is important to mention here that there is, currently, only ONE ongoing case in the Supreme Court pertaining to Sharjeel Imam – which is one that was filed in 2020 – for the clubbing of FIRs. The petition to club FIRs is in the hearing stage, while the FRESH bail application is not. The latter has not even been admitted yet.

Assuming that FRESH means it is not a pending case. I would say it's a feeble attempt at defending itself after LiveLaw pointed out that the hitjob was not backed with facts.

Every college will award marks as they please. Only MCQ is fair. I want to know if admission is on first cum basis starting from 21 Oct when lnat first declassifies the result and also provide assets to respective colleges like to Oxford jgls and other law colleges in uk after all student gives LNAT then only call letter will be issued

IFF only takes interns who can work at their office full time due to the nature of their work for 2-3 months which doesn't work for college students schedule usually. For the job aspect- Sometimes they do take in freshers even if their JD says 1 year experience is necessary but for that you have to make it seem that you somehow stand out as a candidate. Otherwise they are always looking to hire more experienced people so it might be a disadvantage to fresher applicants (their application might work against yours during any part of the hiring process and they'll get preference). The process is written assignment and 2 interviews. Hope this helps!

I say this as someone who has been kind to everyone. It's not worth it. The people that I have seen succeeding in law are always those scheming douche bags who are always trying one up you. They resort to manipulation to capture all institutions. Nobody succeeds just by being good. All successful people are evil. The only thing that varies is the degree of wickedness. Some resort to it in less measure, some go full throttle. Anyways, I have maintained my inner goodness because it helps me sleep at night. For people with questionable morals, they can sleep at night even after harming others. If all you care about is succeeding at all cost then being nice is not worth it. If you care about your peace and consciencence then it's worth it.

Essa and Ashwin are both great guys from AZB. But their working style and manner of interaction was never traditional AZB i.e. both were generally work focused and peaceful guys and most importantly, nice guys.

Even if pay is market or lower than market, it’s a place you can work at, happily, peacefully and without fear. Go in with your eyes closed.

I am a fresher who graduated this year (did an LLM in IP and Tech). I have applied to T1, T2 firms but sadly, no luck yet. I know it is hard being a fresher with no big connections, but hang in there. Keep applying. Instead of think tanks you can also start applying for in house roles because they usually require some IP skills.

I agree with this entirely. I've learnt this exact lesson and boundaries are so important. Be kind, know your people, but take care of yourself first and foremost. Being selfish is being nice to yourself, and that's the most important. It doesn't mean you can't smile at people or be friendly. However, friendly should not mean giving your notes and assisting others with your strengths, without any return. Even if there's no return, helping may be viewed as an investment, so invest in others wisely. If you want to be charitable, be charitable to those who need charity.

I can not tell the exact amount. But I have interned under a decent trial lawyer in bangalore where most of his cases are in district court and very few were related to HC.

He was paying a rent for his office around 30k(the office was fairly big and near the court, although I am not really sure about the rent part) and he also has 2 junior one was getting 30k and other one 15k.

His consultation fee was quoted around 5k but I seen him consulting even at 2k also. Depends on the client capacity.

I would say he must be making anywhere bw 2-4 lakh per month. The frequency of the cases depends. He rarely rejects any client even though he has to lower his fee. All the fee he receives is in cash. So I don't think he is paying any major taxes.

Hello Everyone,
I am a private law college graduate who is working as an in house lawyer right now. I enjoy the corporate law work and really want to learn the work and get into a firm. But i dont know how?
I have applied to few places but never got any revert. Please help me in fulfilling my dreams

This is true and only Indians tried to help yazidis - the Indian Spiritual guru sri sri ravi shankar and his organization visited Iraq collected food and sent to sinjar. He and his organization kept receiving beheaded humans for days after this.

https://www.thenewsminute.com/news/sri-sri-ravi-shankar-travels-iraq-bring-relief-victims-war-22716

title. the saying "work till you no longer have to introduce yourself" means nothing for law, investment banking, consulting etc because no matter who you are in Mckinsey bain kirkland etc., if u dont tell ur name nobody would get to know. over the past few years, ive had this realisation that everybody's deck of cards is different and no matter how hard u work, special status like that of legendary athletes, movie stars and businessmen is reserved for a special few who may or may not work that hard. just felt like venting it here. so be happy with how much u make, how far you've come because there is no chance in hell why someone doing a regular job working 16 hours a day could ever make it big in the eyes of society (like cr7 big, mark zuckerberg big). you do you my friend. love to all my bacchas <3

Hi everyone as someone in the law field how can you become rich enough for an international vacation atleast once a year without compromising on your savings, insurance, etc. Is there anyone here who does that? If so, how do you do your investment? Also, can a lawyer set up a side business?

In competitive environments showing nice behaviour is just like giving a free goal for your rivals. Throught my life I have studied in both competitive and non-competitive places in India. And no also infra, classes and prospects were brighter in the former, the people were just not up to the mark. On the flip side while the latter lacked these facilities, they had way much warmer people so much so that I never had a single bad experience/memory from that place .

As someone who observes the news closely, I have come to notice that certain quarters of the media, in active collusion with key power centres in the bar, are being excessively harsh on the Learned CJI, and that too right before his demiting office. Dushyant Dave was particularly unforgiving in his critique (see the interview he gave this week to Thapar on the Wire). Now, even the powers that be at the SCBA (without even consulting its own members, like me), are using their clout, questioning DYC for “unilaterally” altering/ embellishing (I’d rather say enhancing and updating) the get up of Lady Justice. I for one believe that DYC is doing a stellar job as CJI - miles ahead in many key aspects compared to his predecessors, integrity being one of them. Like, I joined this profession when KGB was the chief, so ya! 🤦🏻🤷🏻 I believe that we’ve come to an unfortunate point where the hunger for power has gotten so desperate, rabid and out of hand, they’ll throw stones on anything and everything - even when there’s hardly any reason to.

Request to the moderators- I know this post doesn’t align with your personal ideologies, but an effort has been made to frame it respectfully. Please look past your personal beliefs and ideological preferences and allow for a moderate, open and respectful discussion.

My genuine suggestion from the heart (no disrespect) - try to make out with the senior(s). That will be really fun, meaningful and fulfilling. How to go about it will be long list of dos and donts, but its achievable. Again - do it for the fun of it - no ulterior motives.

Any samaj k thekedaar who are going to diss - pls give your own suggestions, dont crib about mine.

Yes. It is. You won’t see benefits from it right away. It will take time. But it absolutely is worth it to be nice to people. The best person in my batch sent her notes to the whole class, tutored those of us who needed it separately, never had a single fight or disagreement with anyone.

It paid off for her in a big way because people would work with her on anything she wanted. And after graduation - would do her any favours she wanted. You could be competitive with everyone else, but you wouldn’t be with her. There were very few instances of people being nasty to her in law school ( far fewer than most) and she basically had an easier life in law school because she was nice. Her five years had less drama than anyone else’s and she was allowed to focus on learning and improving herself because she was so nice no one wanted to bother her with drama.

Here’s the thing though. You should actually genuinely want to be a nice person. It cannot be an act. I don’t mean that there shouldn’t be some animal part of you deep down inside. That’s there for everyone. I mean that you should sincerely want to be good to other people and tame parts of you that are more primitive.

I disagree completely with the poster above who said there’s some deep distinction between nice and kind and to be kind instead of nice. I think that’s only true for “nice guys” who bother women. For most people - how you treat them is what they’ll remember and being nice is a good pro social thing. It just is. And people who aren’t nice often justify to themselves that “yeah they might be rude or have an outburst or be emotionally disregulated but they’re not all bad.” Of course no one is all bad. It just does take extra effort to be nice and people who do it are trying to do so must learn to be more patient and even tempered in the long run.

Okay I’m just putting this out there. If you constantly worry about status and need a court to tell you this and post about it all the time. It actually comes off quite pathetic. Surely you have better things to do ? Surely nls students and alumni have better and more important things to do than this nonsense ?

Literally no one else cares if a judge somewhere says you’re a class apart. It doesn’t change a damn thing in real life. Pull yourself together dude.

So then 1 cr pa is a pretty meh salary? Assuming 50% of these 2.3 lakh people live in Mumbai, then there are over 1 lakh people in Mumbai earning that much. That’s a lot!

https://www.hindustantimes.com/business/number-of-income-tax-payers-with-over-rs-1-crore-of-taxable-income-rises-five-times-in-ten-years-101729677936032-amp.html

Methinks India will grant concessions on meat, chocolates and whiskey, but not law firms.

https://www.deccanherald.com/india/next-round-of-talks-on-proposed-free-trade-pact-between-india-and-uk-expected-in-november-official-3234865

We have an off from 28th to 4th Nov at Indus. We have already informed our clients that we will not be working. The firm has agreed to fund our teen Patti games as long as we share 50% of the winnings with them (up to a max of INR 50k).

Has sent us a huge hamper along with 5k for buying clothes for Diwali and 10k for investing in stocks.

A leading trial lawyer in Pune, especially very highly regarded for his knowledge of commercial and real estate law and of civil procedure, is known to charge Rs 10 lakhs as a retainer each brief, and Rs 7.5 lakhs for each effective appearance. He easily makes around 20 cr plus with a 5 day work week and 2 months of vacations. He can live like a king in Pune. Instead of living like a king, he lives in a one bhk "because that is all i need" and has instead a 2 storeyed air conditioned building which is perhaps the world's the finest private collection of Sanskrit and Pali manuscripts.

A0 pay is 80k, i.e 9.6LPA for bombay. However for laterals they will pay basis the previous salary drawn. If you're coming from a low paying firm then you can expect something around 60k. But the work culture is very toxic. Partners here love to scream at, humiliate and ridicule the associates.

Regarding PPO, they massively screwed the 2024 batch. They took around 8-10 people on assessment and hired only 2. That too after dilly-dallying with all of them for months. Ruined careers of more than half of them because by the time they declared their selection/rejection, most firms were done hiring. Most of them had to settle for peanuts in random firms and companies no one's heard of. They declare their results by June and by then you're practically f****d. All in all a huge shit show. If you're aiming for ppo at samvad mumbai, be prepared for hanging by a thin thread for months at a stretch with no surety of whether or not you're in. My suggestion is it's not worth it, please go elsewhere.

On the contrary i don't know about the pay at BLC (heard it's between 8-11 lpa but I'm not sure) but have mostly heard good things about the work culture and mandates.

Exactly. Next best option: U.S./Canada/Australia/Singapore (take your pick). After that: NLSIU - everything else in India is worthless, and NLSIU is on the list only because of Sudhir.

NB1: This only considers programmes taught in English in countries where a significant portion of the population speak English. Doesn't consider Mainland Europe, primarily because of language problems there, though there are multiple good options available there too.

NB2: This evaluation just considers how 'worthwhile' an LLM is intrinsically, not for law firms specifically.

can anyone tell me that it really wants any preparation?

What was the level of questions of legal english and maths logical one can pass or it’s difficult and needs a preparation before attempting it ?

Please tell me the level of questions with an example if can please