Everyone says as a lawyer you need to have a strong network.

can you all plzz share some dos/don'ts while cold approaching someone whether in person or through online.

Is it fine if I randomly ask my senior in college how to write a research paper( he is really good in it). If yes how should I ask him. Or how can I get that tier 1 internship which he/she has gotten. In a way that it doesn't look that I am only talking for my benefit( although it is true somewhat but there is nothing which I can offer in return).

How should I ask for some guidance/mentorship to my college alumni. Or ask for an internship to the lawyers and judges who came in college for various moots.

Is it fine If I randomly go to some advocates office and ask for internship?( any tips to increase chances)

Some tips how to start a conversation with random advocates not to get something but just to know them and ask about their field, what work they do, just some insights etc?

How to praise/complement someone so that it doesn't look flattery and you are doing it only to impress but like genuine admiration?( In my last internship the advocate was really intelligent and he comes up some out of the box arguments which really got me in awe and I really want to become like him in that moment) how to convey these things?

All depends on the culture of the place. Usually this idea of being “nice” to others is instilled in us by our seniors at home or family members/ relatives. Ultimately a good thing when you have to be in a society. But in college, where you are cut off from adults, people tend to behave the way they want. Also, depending on which state people are from and others in your college are - your niceness may be perceived negatively - as either too fake/ or too naive.

Folks from the north are usually more loud and in your face - be it the way they talk, hang out or joke. Folks from the south are bit more reserved and quiet.

Find a core group of friends and have fun. All the best!

Okay you may not like to hear this but this is my take and i think its pretty true. Most people who are 'nice' are doing it to be percieved as nice. So it is inherently selfish. There is a difference between kindness and 'nice'. Kindness is done when you feel geniune compassion, while nicenes is dont to avoid upsetting others or to be liked. Those people who are not giving away their notes are doing nothing wrong. And if you are giving away your notes and resenting it later as you dont feel like you got anything in return, youre just fucking yourself over. And the truth is that you will notice being nice doesng get you extra goodwill. People will just take you for granted and come to expect you to bend over backwards to help them. It reduces theur respect for you. Stop helping people in anyway that makes you uncomfortable or stands to hurt you. Set boundaries. Be kind not nice. This is geniuely not an attack i was exactly this why and since then ive grown and i hope the same for you.

Seniors talk about fancy trips they went to, what booze they drank, where they dined. Then they talk about what their colleagues are Upto. Then get more drunk and start singing.

Have good food. Have a good laugh. Take some jokes they’ll crack on you. Get drunk, but not too drunk to start behaving recklessly or vomiting. Sing along or dance with them if they have such a session. You remind them of their lost youth, so cheer them up.

Don’t do anything you don’t want to do. Cheers !

I have deadlines to send drafts everyday from 31st to 5th. These deadlines have been created yesterday only by the Indian client. And the kind of partners I have, I know I will working throughout that week and on Monday they will have the audacity to say "looks like you had a great diwali, you look so refreshed"

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I completely understand that we should not make anyone feel unsafe and uncomfortable in any setting whatsoever.

Now moving onto another point - we cannot stop ourselves from liking people, and there's a way to pursue someone you really like, and I belive if you really like someone you won't do anything that makes them feel unsafe and uncomfortable.

There are people who met their life partners in such working spaces only, so let's not be hypocrite.

I have reported this comment , because it is a fact that ISIS does this. See this article from 2017, where a Yazidi human rights activist says so. I guess Gen Z law school kids were too young then and they don't know the horrors ISIS inflicted. You guys should google for Nadia Murad, who won the Nobel Prize for exposing such crimes. LI should not allow such comments by ignorant students, who are doing the left a great disservice.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-fed-baby-mother-raped-girl-death-family-iraqi-mp-vian-dakhil-a7811216.html

Real Tier ones do not discriminate. One's that I know like L&L, S&P, ICUL discriminate. A non nlu grads salary is atleast 25-30% discounted compared to that of a NLU Grad. Also there might be discrimination between grads of Top 6/7 NLUs and the rest but not sure about it.

I have nothing to do with this firm and even I can see the entitlement and contradictions here. You think the firm should appreciate the junior's "substantive knowledge, calibre and potential". Juniors know almost nothing when they join. If they are smug and unwilling to learn then the calibre and potential will go nowhere. You are complaining about their writing standards and simultaneously complaining about being taught how to write. So basically the firm pays you to write a certain way. It teaches you how and you don't want to learn. And now you are upset because you want to be judged by whatever you think is important instead of thinking about what your employer is paying you for?

It's a 3 member search committee. Unless they have changed the rules. You are right about DD and KD. The third member will be a toss up between Justices SS or JB. No chance of Amitesh etc. And SB prefers working from the shadows.

There isn't much that SJA can do about this nor should it try.

This happens everyday over there. Especially after the Syrian war abruptly ended. They did this to thousands of Yazidis in 2015-17 in Nineveh, they shot the men, took the women, Qur'an allows concubines taken in war, we know that, thousands of yazidi women were distributed across syria and iraq between IS fighters, used as slaves and human shields against coalition forces. 2015 twitter was full of Islamists posting about these girls, im not surprised there are Yazidi girls in Palestine, they were distributed across the middle east and north africa.

The Yazidis fled into the Sinjar mountains, which they believe is holy to their religion, surrounded and besieged by ISIS, the siege was lifted by Kurds and Peshmerga fighters - the Kurdistan Workers Party in 2014 when they rescued 50,000 Yazidi refugees.

OK. This is a very vague question.

BD trips are limited to some very senior partners in some firms and more spread out in other firms. So whether one has gone for an international trip or not may not be the best benchmark / comparison for you.

In respect of your question - the venues for these trips depend on where the existing or target clients are and will generally be the usual business hubs like NY/ SF, London, Germany, SG, HK, Middle East, Korea. These are generally all expenses paid trips which include accommodation (expect decent mid tier hotels of top brands), food (reasonable limits unless it's a client meeting) and transportation. Since it's usual for a partner to be on these trips - it's expected that outlandish/ unreasonable expenses won't be incurred since they are answerable for these.

Five years of running the gauntlet at GLC, another two working for a government PLC (Arbitration), I finally decided to get on with the LLM. I know that most tier 1 firms absorb NLU talent from the LLB programs, and not usually the LLM ones, so i was wondering if its even worth it? Or is it better to try abroad? I know GLC is nowhere near as good as NLSIU, but I have definitely received great opportunities through the GLC placement committee.

The only thing that makes me (OP) feel slightly better is knowing I am not the only one experiencing this. Could me and others who commented pl. get some advice on how to navigate the way forward? The partner or the firm is not to blame, because if the client is not bringing any M&A opportunities, then I don’t think they can do anything about it. It would be my 6th month as an Associate and in total 9months in this specific team including my internship period but I haven’t worked on any DD, transaction agreements or structuring. I’m really eager to learn and work on it. I enjoy whatever work I get, be it secretarial, but I want it to relate more to Gen Corp and M&A. I’m willing to put in extra hours or take a lower salary. (Aap log apne experience/industry observation ke basis pe advise dene ke liye convince hogaye ya mai thoda aur bolu?😋)

I am a 2nd Year Student in a T-1 NLU. My guiding philosophy in college is to be "nice" to everyone. Always smiling at everyone, helping people with basically everything that they need help for, looking out for juniors, sharing my notes with the batch even when no one else does in it, etc.

However, it does not seem to be reaping any dividends. All the people who are doing extremely well (in moots, academics, etc) are all those who do not give two shits about being "nice". They never share their notes with anyone in the batch, they do not help you when you ask for help...hell they never say thank you to someone that helps them!

So is it really worth it to be so "nice" all the time? Who knows, maybe it is shallow to want something in return for being "nice". There is no obligation on me to be "nice" to everyone so I should not expect anything in return. But all I am getting for being "nice" to everyone is goodwill from batchmates and juniors, and I do not know how (and IF) that will ever help in the future.

Please guide.

Indian qualified lawyers aren’t valuable in UAE, even if you’re working in a top firm. Having worked in the UAE, they clearly and openly prefer candidates qualified in UK, USA, and Australia. Compensation is high in top UK/US firms in Dubai but it’s incredibly difficult to get through.

My uncle is a senior advocate at Allahabad highcourt, lucknow bench. He makes around 1.5 to 2 crore per year. He charges 1 lakh plus for bails and 482 matters. At Allahbad hc and lucknow bench you can even get a senior advocate for 50-60k for such matters. He gets around 15+ plus cases per month. So taking average of 15 cases and courts are opened for 10 months. 15×10×1,00,000= 1.5 crores. Seldom comes a big party whom my uncle milks and makes more. Also getting 15 fresh cases per month is itself a big deal. You talk like someone who has never set foot inside a court. No one is making 10 crores at high courts of poorer states.

As a lawyer entering the private equity, venture capital, and M&A fields, I’m curious about the realistic earnings in a small boutique firm. Specifically, I’d like to know the average per-deal fees for small transactions.

For representing startups on the sell side, what are the typical fees? And for the buy side, including due diligence and compliance, what can one expect in terms of earnings? Gaining clarity on these figures will help us understand the financial landscape.

I personally feel coffee tastes and smells better with chicory.

Brands like Continental (Speciale) and Malabar are pretty good at getting that Udupi filter coffee flavour.

Why don't more people prefer chicory? Is it just eliteness or don't people actually like it?

Work culture is really bad. No one gives a shit about your mental health. It is a very toxic work environment. I did my assessment internship for 4 months and then joined but the work as an A0 is very toxic and everyone is mean for absolutely no reason at all.

Average working hours on a good day are 10-11 hours.

There is no division of work, you get to work on all matters, mostly NCLT and Bombay High Court matters.

No partner at this point has a healthy team because people are leaving each team. RG has a stable team with 3 associates constant since 2 years, however other teams have people leaving because of the toxic work environment. One of the senior associates in team BGD is doing good and if you get to work with him then it would be a good opportunity.

Most of the senior associates are extremely disrespectful and shout at you at any given point of time. You are expected to come to office even when you are very sick and if you take a sick leave you are given a lot of shit for it.

Avoid Team IS at any cost. You will be in office everyday till atleast 10:30 PM, everyday and will be made to work even on weekdays and there will be no boundary at all. I really don't think that WG would be the best option to take.

DM has a full nepo team going on. If you are an outsider you will be looked down upon and the team dynamics are not the best. He barely has an senior in his team, every second person is leaving due to the toxic work culture. This place is hell.