WTF happens now??

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/concerns-rise-as-covid-like-hmpv-virus-spreads-across-asia-7389403

I'm the guy who wrote that sob story about messing up a mock exam just a week before the big one (I'll leave a link below lol). CLAT and AILET are done now, and I'm not here to write another rant about how the paper was messed up by the consort or anything like that, I'm sure there have been plenty of such posts over the past month. Besides, dwelling on how the exam went, which was a disaster for everyone, feels a bit excessive at this point.

Instead, I want to express my gratitude to everyone who commented on my post. I'd been on LI for about a year before posting that sob story, so I had a sense of how this forum could be. But there were also moments when I saw incredibly supportive comments. That post was more of a cry for help, fueled by the stress of the exam a week away, and I ended up typing it all out.

The comments I received were beyond helpful—the supportive ones urging me to give my best in the final 10 days, and even the trollish ones. I still remember one comment saying that I'd be a great lawyer because of the humorously long, substance-less paragraph I'd written. When I reread my post the next day, I felt a bit pathetic for going on and on about something so small. That "trollish" comment (if you can call them that) along with a few other ones revealed to me how insignificant it was in the grand scheme of things.

Contrary to what I wanted to do, I think I've rambled on for pretty long in this one as well haha. I've secured an AIR in the lower triple-digits and I'll be committing to NLSIU. This probably wouldn't be possible without LI because knowing me I'd probably still be sulking about the poor mock score I had gotten a week prior going into the examination lol. Thank you LI ♥🥰

1. Thank you for dignifying (glorifying) my post with such a grand display of invective! Gave me such a laugh, please do go on... very good, very good indeed! I hope your parents get to see how childishly-behaved their embarrassment of a son/daughter is; would love to know if they feel pride or not.

2. HPNLU? Top 50? According to which meaningful criteria? Tell me one achievement of that uni - one meaningful one - and then let's talk. Oh and yes, please produce verifiable proofs of the same.

3. NLUs have very much produced high quality advocates, just not anyone from your uni, just confess and stop applying your inferiority complexes onto other places whose quality you cannot comprehend. As regards judges, the NLUs are too young to have produced anyone who is eligible for the higher levels of the judiciary.

4. Absolutely professors have come back and tried to help. What about the NLS VC himself? Look at how disgracefully he has been treated - what utter nonsense this site allows to be spread about him! Have you ever thought that he and people in his position might have kids, to whom they might one day have to explain that the stuff about daddy/mummy online is just angry people being mean? If that is the best our country has to offer its academics (plus no meaningful research/scholarship culture, definitely a phenomenon at glorified trashcans like HPNLU), then, if I were them, it's be a "no thank you!" from me! There are lots of other examples of people have come back and helped (tell me: who founded IDIA?), if you cared to look! Oh yes and also, if a single graduate from your uni was a prof abroad, or if you had even managed to achieve one training contract in a magic circle law firm, you would not be using this language, but actually producing statistics. These accusations of licking peoples' backsides etc are the last resort of clear failures who have no other argument(s) to resort to!

5. Again, thank you for your exhibitionist behaviour and for giving me such a nice, prolonged laugh, really helps warm the body up; it is -1 Degrees C here on a cold morning in London, and I really needed it - and I can tell you from experience of four years living in England, such quasi-natural (not involving switching-on of expensive heating equipment) cures to feeling cold are really hard to come by!

Got the idea from an Anglo-Dutch guy called Mike Van Erp, who is a bit of a social media phenomenon of his own, in some ways. He goes cycling around London, taking videos of car drivers using their phones while driving - look him up on YouTube and Twitter/X, he goes by the name Cycling Mikey. When he gets flack for sharing his videos of illegal phone use by drivers on Twitter, he has a set of stock responses prepaired for the trolls (who are usually football hooligans). This means he doesn't need to dignify all the nonsense with individualised responses. I feel that that same technique is very much applicable to you and to all of your fellow HPNLU fans (and frankly to a lot of people who suffer from an addiction to Legally India), am sure you and the European football hooligans would be as thick as thieves if you met (oh but of course, you are hard left usually, I forgot...).

This campus will run LLB, LLM, and the 5-year Integrated LLB programs.

https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/delhi/delhi-university-college-savarkar-modi-9757154/

Coming to think of it, even DU Law programs get more funding than all state NLUs. A fresh round of jealousy-laden downvotes is welcome.

I am an incoming A0 - glad to see a partner appreciate the legendary F91W; it's so refreshing to see that when all you've heard while wearing an F91W is "Is that a kid's watch"? XD.

That 5600 is sweet too. Personally, I have been saving up for a Casio GM 2100 - exceptionally beautiful field watch.

😍😍😍😍

Official announcement was made by the VC today!!

For context:

1. Padel is under consideration to be included as a sport in the 2028 LA Olympics. A lot of celebrities are promoting padel, like Nadal, David Beckham etc and Hollywood celebs like Eva Longoria.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports/padel/not-pickleball-this-racquet-sport-could-make-its-debut-in-2028-los-angeles-olympics-article-116839799

2. Parth Jindal of JSW is investing big time in building padel infrastructure in India , through a company called PadelPark

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/sports/jsw-sports-founder-parth-jindal-invests-in-padelpark-india/articleshow/112744357.cms?from=mdr

3. JGLS and the UAE government had earlier signed an MoU to have padel courts at JGLS (via PadelPark)

https://www.msn.com/en-in/money/markets/strengthening-bonds-through-sports-uae-and-jindal-global-university-collaborate-for-padel-tennis-excellence/ar-BB1kdyLW

The vision for JGLS is as follows:

- Padel enters the Olympics in 2028

- Parth Jindal and PadelPark get a first mover advantage in India and promote the sport

- If 2036 Olympics are held in India, it could be a huge opportunity

- JGLS hops on the bandwagon

- Meanwhile, as a glamorous sport, padel could be popularised among corporates and JGLS students who play padel will stand out

Have been considering moving to litigation for some time now. I am connected with a recently designated SC Sr. Advocate who happens to be an Ivy League graduate. How much do these seniors usually pay? Is it the same 25-30k band? Whats the exposure like? Is there room to take up own matters through seniors?

Even if you convert to PC, chances of becoming a Selection grade Colonel remain dismal. In all probability you get promoted to a Time Scale Colonel after 26 years of service. Many, if not all Infantry/ other fighting branch officers will become Colonel in 16-18 years. You wont hold command positions either. No promotions beyond colonel in 99% cases.

No single student in my knowledge has ever preferred NLUD over NLS Bangalore in last 15 years. No wise person will do it now. This kind of thread is useless.

Compare NLS Brand with NLUD

Compare NLS Alumni with NLUD

Compare Faculty

Compare the Vice Chancellors

Do you find any comparison?

NLU Delhi will come nowhere closer to NLS Bangalore in the next 50 years also.

NLSIU is the No. 1 law school of India and it will remain so for next few decades. I don’t see any possibility of NALSAR or NUJS or NLUD come anywhere close to it. Thanks.

When in 10th grade, they told 10th is important score well I scored way above

When in 12th grade, they told areey 12th is turning point, score well. I did

In CLAT, I flunked and I thought PG me acha karlunga and settled with a shitty college with a grade ceiling.

No one told me that UG college is what actually mattered.

Ab kya jhand banega zindagi mera

Hi everyone. I have only about 53% average in law subjects as of result from 3 years. Even if I perform well in remaining two years my average law marks will be realistically only around 64-65%, because of stingy grading system which rarely gives anyone about 70s. Apart from studying I really don't know what to do. Please help. Is there any hope for people like me?

And if I plan to take a JD from US in future using LSAT, will a grade like 60-65% hamper my admission?

So many negative comments! I think this is indicative of the difference in outlook between Gen Y and Gen Z. For Gen Z, savings are not important. Their motto in life in FOMO and YOLO, especially because COVID has shown us how short and uncertain life can be. Plus, Gen Z is averse to having kids, so no need to save for children. In fact, the other day I read a post about an influencer who has spent as much as 50 lakhs last year solely on travelling worldwide.

On the other hand, Gen Y still clings on to old-fashioned concepts of boomers and Gen X: save for your future, save frugally, have a family kids and save further on them etc.

Speaking for myself, the Gen Z attitude is much better. Why be a slave to oppressive middle-class values? Just enjoy what life has to offer you!

It's the duality of it. Big money and no work life balance vs less money and work life balance. In any law firm set up (especially T1s) - if you're not generating 10x revenue - you're an under-utilised resource. Now to reach that level means exceptionally long working hours, sacrificing weekends, dealing with toxic bosses.

If you're okay with sacrificing money for work.life balance, there are ample opportunities but the dip in money would be substantial. As someone completing 5 years in the law firm environment - I sometimes wish I had never joined a law firm to begin with - you can't miss the money you never earned!

Judges in a democracy should grow some thicker skin instead of threatening contempt at every hint of criticism. We do have something called freedom of speech and expression in the constitution. Its ridiculous to claim that children of judges dont have it easier in the profession. Own it.

Absolutely correct. As long as you're doing average, you'll be a PC. However, Most people leave since they are not comfortable with the military lifestyle. In my batch of 10, only 2 are still in the service and both of us are from military backgrounds, so we were aware of the lifestyle even before joining. If you can adapt, you can overcome.

Absolutely false. A person's permanent commission is corps dependent. Therefore a JAG will only be compared with other JAG, and not with an SSC from OTA (IMA isn't for SSC). An infantryman, or an Arty fellow has a whole different course than a JAG. The only common being YOs. Moreover, JAG is only for those who are really passionate about the military lifestyle, since you're a soldier first, and a specialist later, irrespective of you're doctor, advocate or techie.

You're on IL, nobody knows how to answer questions. Can't believe people here are lawyers and fail to provide basic answers to questions.

Anywho, As far as you query goes, go for JAG only if you have any interest in the army, also remember it's a SSC, short service commission, so if you don't become permanent you will have to leave after 10+4 years. However, I have friends who left and joined law firms or became SC/HC advocates. But the basic criteria is you have to enjoy the military lifestyle.

Judiciary is a social status without a social life. You will get all the privilege, wealth, power and connections, but you will be under scrutiny with how you operate in the society. It's a post, an office that gives a lot but demands a lot. Same with civil services. You are bound by the rules.

Law firms are like any other corporate job. Work, work and work. You get great pay, probably the best, immediately after graduation. But it comes with a cost of health and time. Sure post 5 years of work you will be more comfortable. But it's a tough 5 years.

Now coming to your questions:

1. Progression in JAG is the same as others, start of as a GC, Lt, Capt, Major and if lucky will retire as a Lt. Col. It's a grade A govt service, the only other being civil services. The progression is time scale. And if your records are good, you'll get permanent commission and depending on age may retire as a Brig/General. Judiciary is heavily dependant on age, the younger you join, the higher you go. If you're above 35, then try for HJS instead. For law firms, it depends which kind, and what type, and which job. what differentiates this from the other two is it's not time dependant and more skill dependent, i.e. if you're ready good at what you do you will definitely climb quicker.

2. Hours is totally dependant on where you work and at what role. If I had to compare the most hours in-office and outside related to work would be Judge (judgment writing sucks)>law firm (maximum time in office)>JAG (army social life)

3. Which you should go for is upto you. If you want a work-life balance, JAG is the best, but adapting to a military lifestyle is very tough for many, it's a world in it's own sense. If you want power and prestige, then judiciary is the best, however social life is nil. If you want money, just simply money, then law firms and a freedom to not be restricted by rules like army or judiciary has. In the end, see what you want ? Money, status, power, passion etc.

Money - law firms. Power - Judiciary. Passion - JAG

Still citing an englishman ? Get your head out of the white man's arse for a moment, and maybe the elitist snobbish attitude of your generational blood money will help retain any sort of human decency you have left. Also, it's a pity that every single professor, good or bad, that taught a pathetic little bitch like you is considered a thrashy brained student according to you. I believe your colleagues and juniors say the same about you at every single step of your pathetic existence in this legal world.

Moreover, if you're comparing apples to oranges than remember that till date none of the NLUs are anything more than a state university, none of the NLUs have produced judges or advocates of high calibre in the courts, none of the NLUs have produced professors that decided to stay back in India and help further the educational system of the country, why ? Because most of them became corporate Stooges and some like you became the white men's slave and started teaching abroad instead of contributing to the same higher education in India that you accuse others of defiling. Also, with 1700 law colleges, HPNLU still, though not great, comes in the top 50, therefore you're elitist ass considers the rest of the 1650 as even below the thrash that you talk about. Talk about grandiose narcissism at it's finest. I hope even your death is not pissed upon by a rabid dog, and your downfall starts soon. Wish you well you narcissistic snob pig of a blot in this legal community.

Geez, calm your tits, pal. I don't really care for this debate, if the kid wants to choose NLS, let him go ahead by all means, he won't be losing anything and NLS is arguably still the best in the country. But whatever's been said about NLUD as far as location, domicile and all are facts. And what is with this batch outshining a batch nonsense? Every NLUD batch can easily go toe to toe with all the older NLUs, ultimately, it comes down to individual effort in building one's legal career.

What do you mean by batch outshining another ? What gives you the confidence to make such absurd bold claims? What metric are you using? What real data do you have? Are you taking into account the differential priorities and aspirations of students in different NLUs? The different batch sizes ? Whether they have domicile or not. Your statement is essentially meaningless. And this vague batch shining quotient you have created may have nothing to do in the list of reasons why one may choose Delhi over bangalore or vice versa especially the current context of the CLAT and AILET, the individuals expectations from law school? Geographical preferences and so many more. So

Have you applied at this firm only? As a non-NLU, I can only tell that you should be applying at as many places as you can. I hope you are not living in some sort of dream where getting accepted is the likely, if not the only, possibility. Having said that, I assume there would be too many threads on this firm, why don't you have a look at those.

You who declared yourself as an NLUD student, knows enough about NLSIU to comment that most of their students do not get good teachers without any evidence whatsoever, but when someone comments about documented student problems and deaths at NLUD and on the record bickering about it between your governing body members, then you get salty. It's clear who is not getting good teachers. Especially when you do not have ANY good teacher known for their work except 2-3 people now left at NLUD. Compared to NLSIU, who have a large number of such people.

As for placement records, if even after 17 years of starting, you have to resort to such excuses to account for your less than par placement scene, then that's enough evidence to show the state of your university.

No one cares about 12th board or drops. College degree is what matters. But quite honestly I would suggest anyone who has that low scores in 12th grade seriously evaluate why that happened and whether they have the discipline it takes to become a good lawyer. You can still turn your life around- but not if you keep going like this and keep hand waving away your mistakes. Everyone in law school is smart. You have to be hardworking and disciplined to set yourself apart from the herd and unless you have the ability to be that - I don’t know what sort of future you can expect in the profession.

50ish people got placed when day z ended. These offers were from tier 1 firms/ tier 1.5 firms (saraf,argus,indus) and branded boutiques (anagram, lexygen, spice route). Half were PPOs, half day zero. Alot of people who got placed had a strong contact atleast from the PPO side. I don't have any idea about people placed after day z. No idea again about the percentage as our batch was huge but maybe 10-15% of people who wanted jobs got placed

Thanks, And what about the 12th percentage. If it does have some drawbacks to have less percentage, just tell me will it get asked or discussed there, I mean can I sail through law school keeping it a secret for 5 years from my mates and everyone. Cuz it will be like a tag on my face if they know it.

That is completely false. Don't mislead please.

I have seen many students getting rejected.

PPO interviews at CAM now are NOT a mere formality now. You do have technical questions from your CV.

Plus if you are not in the top 10 of the Batch, you anyways don't have a chance.

You don't get free places in NLS because they don't take in people who have clearly failed at everything they did since leaving high school. As you have, therefore, give up that dream too, and enjoy your life at HPNLU, remembering that we know you to be the trash of the legal world. An Englishman once said a long time ago that the trashy-brained law students stayed back for further study or to teach in the law schools of his country. While that statement is no longer applicable to the UK, clearly, it remains applicable in India, with you HPNLU aspirants (and HPNLU as a law school) being the paradigmatic example of everything that holds back our higher education sector. Evidence? Your own comment.

You don't get free places in NLS because they don't take in people who have clearly failed at everything they did since leaving high school. As you have, therefore, give up that dream too, and enjoy your life at HPNLU, remembering that we know you to be the trash of the legal world. An Englishman once said a long time ago that the trashy-brained law students stayed back for further study or to teach in the law schools of his country. While that statement is no longer applicable to the UK, clearly, it remains applicable in India, with you HPNLU aspirants being the paradigmatic example of everything that holds back our higher education sector. Evidence? Your own comment.

The Supreme Court on Thursday criticized a lawyer for insinuating that relatives of judges were being designated as Senior Advocates by courts.

The Bench of Justice BR Gavai and Justice KV Viswanathan was hearing a plea moved by advocate Mathews J Nedumpara and others for quashing of the recent designation of 70 lawyers as Senior Advocates by Delhi High Court.

"How many judges can you name whose offspring have been made seniors?" the Court asked as it questioned the allegations made in the petition.

Nedumpara in response said that he has submitted a chart to back his claim.

However, the Court was unconvinced with the submission and warned of action in case of failure to remove the allegations from the petition.

"We will grant you liberty to amend the plea and if it is not amended then we will take steps accordingly," the Court said.

When Nedumpara submitted that bar was afraid of judges, the Court took exception to the line of arguments.

"This is a court of law and not azaad maidan of Bombay to make speeches. Make legal arguments and not for gallery," Justice Gavai remarked.

Ultimately, the Court granted the counsel time to reflect over the pleadings and consider whether they need to be removed.

"A lawyer who is signatory to such a petition is also guilty of contempt," it warned.

https://www.barandbench.com/news/litigation/supreme-court-to-hear-asaduddin-owaisi-plea-implement-places-of-worship-act

Continuing further, once you pass this test, you will be at the second stage wherein you have area-specific questions. Mostly related to a case study and 5 questions flow from it. You are supposed to answer these in 15 minutes. The test is not extremely hard. Focus on basics of Company law, Contract law and IBC if you are applying for the relevant teams. In-depth knowledge of the law is not required.

Hi, I am a 4th year law student and am looking for advices regarding internships for july onwards.

I am confused regarding focussing on tier 1, boutique firms or in-house internships as I wish to be placed soon. I come from a nominal family and am hoping for packages 12+

Can anyone recommend me some places?

There is no NLUD batch that outshines NLS, NALSAR or even NUJS or NLU J for that matter. Heck placement wise even GNLU is giving a run for its money to NLS and NALSAR. NLU D bubble is only in mind of its students/alum, who are so free that they keep on beating about it on legallyindia.