The answer to this can be found in the “O” of “NLUO”. Intellectually and commercially, Odissa is a backwater. It is nowhere. Nothing of lasting value can survive for long is this place. Forget international law, they cannot even properly teach the Indian law, whether in a so-called NLU or a lowly government college.

Do not get yourself down, dear fellow. Nothing, and I mean nothing, beats competence. Work, pressure, hustle. Watch this << https://youtube.com/watch?v=m5RbdReBMLE >> and act accordingly. To paraphrase, “Take dead aim at those NLU fellows. Get them in the crosshairs. And take them down.”

I am sure we are all for living in a more “practical” world where we can avoid “misunderstandings”. But the worst way to achieve this is to insist upon others to do as one thinks they ought to. The self-righteousness involved in this avowedly moral project is insulting. You do not get to decide that you know better than others. This insistence that my disagreement with your style of referring to others makes me immediately transphobic is as insincere as it is false.

Speaking of bail, would appreciate if you or others might be interested in responding to this thread on bail and Indian jurisprudence at << https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/419471-indian-jurisprudence-and-bail >>

Appreciate your answer but I also find it unsatisfactory. As I said in my post, bail is not supposed to be such a complex subject so as to be restricted only to the specialists in criminal law. You do not even have to be a lawyer to talk about the institutional context in which law is practised. We have so many students of law on this forum. Surely, they must have thought about the practice of law and where the subject of bail has historically occupied an important part. One does not have to practice criminal law to speak on habeas corpus.

They get to be in good chambers and have info about which are the good one since their college peeps would have worked at decent place. The community is close knit. For me, there is no community, and very big info gap. So I feel a bit bheind. Not sure how to make connections then…

At NLSIU, there is the institutional focus, an inter-disciplinary faculty, and a strong alumni network that will certainly be rewarding for any reasonably competent student. Go for it and the very best. You may also go through previous posts on this subject at this forum. Some of the resent ones include << https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/418877-recommend-colleges-for-3-year-law-degree#comment-419000 >> / https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/418877-recommend-colleges-for-3-year-law-degree#comment-419068

Best tweet on this:

Two stories of Nupur Sharma and Ranveer Allahbadia and one common factor: Justice Kant. "Justice Surya Kant: She has threat or she has become security threat? The way she has ignited emotions across the country. This lady is single handedly responsible for what is happening in the country." (https://x.com/barandbench/status/1542743515309912065) "Justice Kant: Such behaviour has to be condemned. Just because you are popular you cannot take the society for granted. Is there anyone on earth who will like this language. There is something very dirt in his mind which has been vomitted. Why should we protect him ??" (https://x.com/barandbench/status/1891725931582193816) The mindset is the same. A nanny court representing a nanny society, deciding on behalf of everyone who claim their sentiments are hurt.

https://x.com/kushal_mehra/status/1891764107902378053

Finally some good conversation on a legitimate topic. While we are at it, can we also please discuss the shoddy quality of judgement writing (unreasonable length, pointless obiter dicta, the circular act of declaring your interpretation/finding and treating that declaration as its own reasoning), terrible formatting of those said judgements (arbitrary selection of typefaces and their sizes, paragraph spacing, layout etc.), and the lack of common courtesy to provide syllabus for judgements, not even for cases involving constitutional/statutory interpretation. On these issues, at least, SCI can learn from SCOTUS.

This issue has been clarified now. According to the FAQ section at << https://www.nls.ac.in/programme/b-a-hons/ >> “10% of the total intake in the 3-year LLB (Hons.) Programme and the MPP Programme shall be earmarked for graduates of the BA (Hons.) Programme at NLSIU as per the merit list of the respective entrance examinations.” The policy is yet to be notified though.

Unlikely. I, along with everyone else I know within the firm, got their bonus not a minute later than intended date, as well as the arrears of increment not a minute later than the intended date.

There may be more than a million things wrong with this firm, but holding back someone's duly earned remuneration is not one of them. Credit where credit due.

What is even the point of running a recruitment firm if you refuse to return my calls, reply to my messages, or answer my emails about roles that YOU posted?

It makes no sense. You tell me you're following up with XYZ law firm, and then weeks—sometimes even months—go by with nothing. Yes, I understand that firms and hiring partners take time, but it is literally YOUR job to push for candidates like me, to advocate for us, to help us find roles. 'Help' being the key word here.

If a role doesn’t work out, refer me to other places. Keep track of your candidates. Remember us. Organize a database. Put some effort into your job. Help me and others like me.

I get it, you’re dealing with a lot of candidates. But there are also a lot of you. So how is it that, collectively, you have managed to fail us so spectacularly?

It’s especially frustrating to see recruiters spending so much time posting on LinkedIn about what candidates should or shouldn’t do. You go on and on about how we shouldn’t reach out to firms directly or post self-righteous motivational messages about 'Mondays' while ignoring our messages. Imagine if you just took five seconds to say, 'Hey, it didn’t work out with XYZ firm, but I’ll keep you in mind for future roles,' or even, 'The client changed their mind.' How hard is that?

If you’re a recruiter reading this, feel free to copy-paste the above. It’s probably the least you can do.

Have templates, hire more people, use some basic common sense—for the sake of those of us who are desperately looking for jobs. If you can’t even show this minimal level of decency, how do you expect any respect in return?

Most legal recruiters don’t understand the industry beyond the surface-level buzzwords—litigation, corporate law, in-house counsel, TMT, IPR. That much is clear.

And then there’s the whole 'confidential openings' nonsense. Half of you are peddling mystery jobs with no real details, expecting candidates like me to jump in blind. 'Big law firm, Tier 1, great opportunity' is NOT a job description. Do you even have a real opening, or are you just collecting resumes to meet some arbitrary quota?

Let’s not even get started on mass emails. Nothing screams professionalism like getting a job alert that wasn’t even meant for me. 'Dear Candidate, Exciting role at XYZ firm!' Sure, sounds legit.

And salary misinformation? Don’t even get me started. Some of you lowball me to keep your clients happy, others inflate numbers just to lure me in. Either way, I end up blindsided at the final stage when the actual offer doesn’t match anything you promised.

At the end of the day, most of these so-called recruiters are just middlemen chasing commissions with zero regard for candidates as actual human beings.

First, it’s crucial to take some time to reflect on what you truly want from life. Success is often defined in terms of career milestones like making partner, but life isn’t just about climbing the corporate ladder. Work is one part of your life, but it’s not everything. Work-life balance is important, and you need to find a way to balance your professional life with your personal well-being. That being said, at the age of 35, your perspective on life and success will likely shift. What seems like the ultimate achievement today may not hold the same significance down the road. Priorities change, and what once felt like the pinnacle of success may no longer feel as fulfilling.

Rather than focusing solely on career goals, it’s important to work towards living a fully rounded life. This includes not just career advancement but also personal growth, hobbies, relationships, and experiences that contribute to your overall well-being. If you’re feeling confined or restless in your current environment, consider stepping outside your comfort zone, travel abroad, immerse yourself in a new culture, or take a job in a different country to gain new perspectives. These experiences can offer clarity and reshape how you view success. Bottom line - live an interesting life.

In the end, an unexplored life isn’t worth living. Money and career status are not the only indicators of success. The richness of life comes from the experiences we have, the people we meet, and the fulfillment we find outside of the office. Focus on finding meaning in all aspects of your life—not just in your work.

The solution is to have English as the national language and have everyone speak in English. Abolish the teaching of regional languages in schools. In any event, all the world’s most important scientific knowledge, fiction, cinema and music is in English (some perhaps in other European languages, but invariably translated into English).

You may downvote me, but I challenge you to prove me wrong on facts.

As a student at NLS I would advise against joining NLSIU, the batch strength is too high as of now, you will be sitting and competing against a few hundred people for vacancies which might or might not be sufficient to cater to everyone, academics too at NLS are a different kind of a beast, all that for no job guarantee and an ungodly amount of stress, along with the new ten week trimester plan, not a good place to be if I am being very honest, I would suggest NALSAR over NLS any day of the week.

FYI Caravan article on Justice Suryakant Sharma:

https://caravanmagazine.in/law/surya-kant-himachal-pradesh-chief-justice-sc-elevation-allegation-corruption-tax-evasion

Discourse in India is either exagerration or obfuscation. In a country with little or no data, anecdotal experience is what passes for reasoning. The judge and soon-to-be CJI here figured that, him being from an agricultural background, he has an accurate and superior understanding of the situation. Now, of course, that is not true. But observe that even in elite and exclusionary institutions of India, this is what passes for intellectualism.

This is the reason we need judges who are more on liberal side. I agree nepotism is bad, but they can think rationally as they've been provided with what education in india and abroad. Such moral policing by J.Kant in SC isn't called for and he was also justifying death threats and acid attacks.

Would any day prefer likes of Chandrachud, Nariman then J.Kant

While I get why one would feel this way (the Firm before self culture, after all), Trilegal is celebrating it's 25th Anniversary. This is HIGHLY unlikely given we're already filling in details for offsites (in celebration of the silver jubilee) and appraisals (BAU every year).

"What embarrassment he has caused to his parents?“
“ The words you have chosen... parents will be ashamed, and sisters will be ashamed. The entire society will feel ashamed. The perversion you and your henchmen have exhibited!”

"There is something very dirty in his mind which has been vomited. Why should we protect him?"

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/ranveer-allahbadia-case-in-supreme-court-just-because-you-are-popular-supreme-court-to-ranveer-allahbadia-7736130#pfrom=home-ndtv_topscroll

Is this woman for real??? The level of delusion is like…😣😣😣😣

https://www.livemint.com/economy/finance-minister-nirmala-sitharaman-stock-market-correction-heavy-selling-by-foreign-investors-fiis-fpis-profitbooking/amp-11739794123255.html

As per bar and bench article he has been asked to be present in Police stations without a lawyer as a mark of cooperation. How is that legally correct?

Also why does SC make so many remarks on general moral compass.

Link: https://www.barandbench.com/news/litigation/supreme-court-stays-arrest-ranveer-allahbadia-bars-him-shows

What makes up a strong CV is highly subjective, especially if you consider it from a recruiter's perspective. However, as far as my understanding and observations go, there are some common elements of a strong CV (one whuch is well suited for a job at a good law firm). (My opinion here is most relevant for the schools like NLS/NALSAR/NUJS. It may be true for others as well as a matter of general principle but please make sure to talk to your immediate seniors and 4th years/5th years too as my advice may be generic at some points.)

1. GPA/Grades: Maintaining a good GPA is crucial for a good CV. And a good GPA is not objective rather relative to your batch. If your GPA is in top 25% of the batch, I think that is good. Anything above that is excellent. People often overlook this, but more often than not, you CV itself is shortlisted based on your GPA. And I've people with very high GPA and nothing else in the CV land a very good job on Day Zero. So, focus on GPA.

2. Internships: Internships at T1 firms are most valuable. If you have narrowed down to a niche practice area and seek a job in that itself, try interning more in that area. Other than, generally if you have 2-3 good internships by your Day Zero along with a good GPA, you are going to be a strong contender for a job. This is specifically true in case of NLS or other top law schools where generally there is a higher number of willing recruiters on Day Zero. In case of other law schools, it would be wise to stay in touch with seniors who have secured a job to get tailored information.

3. Moots/Publications/Other Achievements: These achievements show your excellence and differentiate you from your peers. If you get a chance, don't shy away from participating in moots/debates/ADR activities. Participate for the sake of participating and in doing so you'll be able to enjoy the process and gain some experience that may help you later (for example in articulating something in your interview or as an area of common interest betwen you and your recruiter). If you win or secure a good position in any of these activities, it'll be a nice addition to your CV and might help in distinguishing your CV from others. And if possible, try getting atleast one paper in your area of interest published ata good place by the end of your law school course.

These are not sure shot ways of landing a job on Day Zero. I have seen people with a 'weaker' CV get a decent job. And I have seen people witha 'stronger' CV struggle. But tge above elements will, as a matter of general principle, work in your interest. Above all, if you aim to get a corporate job, try getting a PPO as this will save your time, effort and save you from participating in gruelling Day Zero process. In your second corp internship, try getting an assessment internship or if it's already a callback, even bettter. Communicate with your buddies/mentors that you are interested in working there and inquire aboutv vacancy and their interest in hiring. Be direct but not rude/offensive/ or give an impression that you are very needy. Hiring etc is also impacted by hiring pattern in that year and previous year. So all you can do is give your best and hope that everything else goes well.

Don't be very stressed as in the end you'll find that things will fall into place. Just be dilligent and trust and enjoy the process. You'll never get these years of your life back, so make sure that you dont exhaust yourself only in building CV. I hope i wasn't very idealistic and didn't scare you as that wasn't my intention. Be in touch with your seniors. I am sure you'll do good.

All the best!

Think of it this way. This is a populous country. For every exam, you will find a large number of applicants. So every exam is already competitive. One way to differentiate between them could be to look at the common minimum threshold that an applicant needs to meet in terms of their preparation in order to achieve merit. In my own limited view, that threshold for law appears to be lower as compared for engineering. But bear in mind, this is only an observation on the level of preparation needed to achieve merit in either examination. And while my explanation here is qualitative, it would not be too difficult to collect relevant data in its support. Ultimately, we are all similar and different in many ways and there is no point in looking down at what we enjoy doing simply because others think they can do better than us. Good for them if they can! For there is nothing to compare between an incompetent engineer and a competent lawyer and vice versa.

Agreed. No one cares (or should care about NLS). It is a state university on the decline. The Karnataka State Government has not been able to create and nurture a single good university in the state (remember that IISc, IIMB, NIMHANS, etc. are all national/central entities) in the past 75 years. So why should NLS be any different?

Hi. Will answer what I can. Hopefully, others can fill in the rest. (1) See << https://www.nls.ac.in/programme/ph-d-law/ >> for eligibility details. Five-year degree in law with minimum of 55% marks in aggregate is acceptable. (#) You may refer to << https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/416527-nlu-phd-application#comment-417513 >> for additional data on how many applied and got in at NLSIU in 2024.

All the best