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For starters, just aim for the undisputed top 6/Tier 1 NLUs i.e. NLS, NALSAR, NUJS, NLUJ, GNLU and NLIU. After that it's quite messed up, but to say the least, HNLU, NLUO, RMLNLU, RGNUL and NUALS are some great institutes. A tier above the likes of DSNLU, TNNLU and CNLU for sure.
Mind that not ALL NLUs are worth spending money on; you would fare better if you do engineering at your local university rather than going for something like MNLU-A or NLU, Meghalaya, in terms of employability. I hope I gave you an outline to work with as an aspirant. Best of luck! :)
Glad to finally hear from your side. Don't worry, you'll be graduating from one of the top law schools that our country can offer. Banger of a choice indeed! :)
Bhai bolte hain compare nahi karo, aur phir baatein dekhlo inki...
1. Yup, MNLU has had a really disappointing track record of placements up until now. But even so, it's really improving as far as the students suggest, and a lot of things change in 5 years.
2. Don't forget that someone from MNLUM can always join SLS or JGLS, but you can't say the opposite.
I recently came across this testimony from someone who had a really tough time at JGLS. You may take note: https://www.instagram.com/p/CsvIYsPsULU/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
3. I might be a bit biased in this one, but I personally feel that if placements are your top priority, then HNLU/NLUO perform wayyy better than MNLU. If location is not much of a concern, then I really don't understand why someone would go for MNLUM over institutes that have historically had a better record at placing their students.
Best of luck pal!
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2. Let it sink in that you've not been able to get a top rank, which is totally fine.
3. Socialise with your batchmates, enjoy your life, and give yourself a sweet pie after putting in so much effort.
4. Ask yourself, "What are you studying for?" To get a nice job? For earning big and marrying pretty? Securing your future?
Or to show off in front of society that you studied at NLS? (Many of whom don't even know anything beyond IIT and AIMS). I've seen people skip NLS just because the trimester system seems excessively life-sucking. Enjoy your life dude. Ek saal barbaad karke kya milega? (Even mathematically, you would have to do one more year of corp to earn the same amount) Just doesn't make sense. Peaceโ๏ธ
At this point, it is just trying to serve as an archive of its golden days and answer as many queries as possible. They're complacent with what they've got on their plate, and I think that's fair because they're atleast retaining their audience and the site is not dead yet.
Bringing in reforms would have a probability of a drastic dip in the consumer base due to the audience already being comfortable with the current version of it. I mean, who really wants to subscribe to it if the owner is chill with the status quo? Untapped potential? Massive Yes. Does it need reform at this point? Maybe Not.
"Further we can organise private discussion groups, zoom meets where students can speak to seniors in the profession and get guidance on lot of stuff, as thats better than bumping up threads and waiting for important answers."
This seems easy to write, but I can assure you that this isn't realistically possible to achieve. And even if it is, then the platform has to be heavily monetized to conduct those 'guiding sessions' which would require good lawyers on the panel. Having private discussion rooms is still an option if you can find people willing to do that (which isn't so common). You can ask them for their telegram and chat.
PS: A private telegram was created by Ashleha for Delhi litigators in October '22.
If you try doing it on the older interface, it'll show 'not found'. I hope it help :)
Had a similar thought ages ago. I genuinely don't think that it'll get any better with the current mod :(
There is so much untapped potential in LI!!!
Really excited for the classification of threads update (if it ever comes out) :D
@Legally_India There was a really good thread on this, I can't seem to find it but someone suggested of assessing NLUs and gave some metrics that could be judged upon to decide the rankings.
For instance, this year's math and GK sections were relatively difficult as compared to other sections of the exam. Quants had two questions that were quite unsolvable, even for CAT mentors. For someone who did rigorous GK and Quant practise, it served as a major disadvantage despite the fact that they were just as good as them or even better than others who scored better.
My friend left his whole logical reasoning section, which was a piece of cake for quants which was unnecessarily difficult; he did not make it despite being an absolute genius and having scores exceeding 100 multiple times in sample papers and mocks.
And if you feel that we might have been unprepared, unlike other top scorers, then I'll let you know that I've scored near perfects in the CLAT 2021 and CLAT 2022 Quant sections and still struggled to solve them.
So yeah, the bottom line is that CLAT can f*** you in 100 different ways since the difficulty of getting a single mark would drastically vary in contrast with its weightage.
So that's how a guy who might deserve NLS ends up getting RML or HNLU due to bad luck.
1. GNLU, Gandhinagar
2. HPNLU, Shimla
3. RGNUL, Patila
4. NUALS, Kochi
5. NLUJAA, Guwahati
6. MNLU, Nagpur
7. NLS, Bangalore
8. HNLU, Raipur
9. RMLNLU, Lucknow
10. NLU, Delhi
This list is formed on the basis of staring at campus pics of all NLUs for several minutes :)
No point mentioning the ugliest since some of them doesn't even have a campus to begin with.
Why are you offended? I didn't mean to do that, it was just a genuine query. The OP shares the same opinion, I guess he too might be hanging around on LI?
Have you ever tried learning FIJ? Try revising it and come back to me when you know the difference between a fact, an inference, and a judgement.
I apologise for the confusion my tone might've caused. I genuinely meant to say that, I'm concerned that EVEN IF I could write better, I might not be considered, which is quite sad.
Have a nice day bro/sis :)
Guy is in need
1. I donโt get offended
2. No question is too stupid, and no question is too dumb.
Own up to your own sh*t before asking others to have honest questions.
โฎโฎโฎ then I'll state them to you in a 'more' simplified manner:
a) Sometimes I feel that the gender fluidity discussion has been taken too far. E.g. i identify as abc. What do you think about it? Is it fine to identify as a black women if you feel like it?
b) How much of being queer is nature? Is there no element of nurture?
c) A fairly high percentage of my gay friends were sexually abused as childrenโ a percentage high enough to not make it seem like a coincidence. Unless this was a very skewed sample, is there any correlation?
d) Is it that they are just more expressive, or is it just the fact that any kind of minority holds their identity very tightly?
How are they not honest or comprehensible to you?
PS: I don't correlate to these doubts, I just wanted to acknowledge the duality of this individual because I was also feeling 'thoda nice' today.
Mod, please let this pass through with necessary censorship because I'm aware of it's borderline trolling potential but this is not fair.
Cheers! โจ
Even I'm concerned that, despite my writing being just as good as any senior, I would not be considered as a serious candidate.
At the end of the day, isn't it just about 'contributing'? Why should it matter which year I'm studying in :/
Considering you were eligible for BSc. LL.B. at NLIU, you might've gotten a rank between AIR 500- 750. If that's the case, then you can obviously switch to other NLUs for their standard courses if you feel like BSc is not something that you want to do.
If you ask me, you shouldn't leave. Apart from it's messed up batch quality, it's really good.
I've previously answered a query on this course itself, link: https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/248128-bsc-llb-cybersecurity-at-nliu-bhopal-better-than-ba-llb#comment-248198
My theory has always been that CLAT is an aptitude based exam and aptitude comes naturally. It's not something that you can garner in an year or two, although I feel that it's not impossible, you might see some AIR 1s in the future.
HNLU has 30% of its seats horizontally reserved for women, and this year alone, the strength is close to 60% of the batch strength.
Even NLIU and NLUJAA have a strong history of good gender ratios.
Statement 2: girls here aren't simply nerds looking for cheap internships and are actually willing to invest time and passion into relationships.
Nature: Contradicting
I don't understand why having a greater body count is such a flex among you guys, isn't it just meaningless exercise for like a minute's pleasure? Sad.
"Not to discredit the thought of having more transparency and freedom to voice opinions against admin, but the conclusion seemed a bit too extreme"
Not necessarily, the private universities that I mentioned are one of the top choices for candidates that are not able to clear CLAT and they are definitely better than the likes HPNLU or DNLU. I don't think there is a distinctive gap between NLUs and private unis to the extent that they're incomparable.
And please try to understand the context of the content published, I compared them to highlight that it's not a joke which was absurd of the OP to say.
Please refrain from publishing comments that are drawn from false interpretations.
**Correction comment 7 para 2: WBNUJS or NLUJ
As far as the placements are concerned, I would be lying if I tell you that anyone is half decent.
What you can do is: Take MNLUN-->Give CLAT again-->Get HNLU or above (if you want to do corporate)-->Switch!
2. As an aspirant I knew what is the general perception of the candidates who applied for CLAT and AILET.
I haven't found no candidate that preferred NUJS above NLUD apart from the residents of WB itself.
PS: If you confirm that you're not someone from NUJS and belong to ANY other institute then it'll discredit my initial argument that it's a common perception among law schools and I'll duly take that back. But who are we kidding? You're a Noojie :)
But that's like NLU 101 these days, be it WBNUJS or NUJS, this has been a recurring issue. Not to discredit the thought of having more transparency and freedom to voice opinions against admin, but the conclusion seemed a bit too extreme: "It's a joke for a university."
It's not a joke. Maybe you've got too big of a campus, too good of a placement, or too much of a state funding to see that there are likes of Christ and NMIMS that don't even compare, even after charging more than double the fee charged by HNLU.
I'd advise you to keep your rhetoric (read rant) issue-specific rather than targeting an institution as a whole.
Regards,
Batch of '28
I wish NUJS had a better administration and a larger campus :(
If you have some kind of reservation too, be it domicile or anything, then don't shy away from taking another drop year while getting yourself admitted to a local college.
Coming back to the question, SLS-P is quite a competitive law school as far as I've heard. If you're confident enough that you'll get placed one way or the other and maintain your enthusiasm throughout the length of the course, then I would definitely suggest that you go for it. There is no possible way one could fail to get placed in an ever-growing market like the legal sector from an institute like SLS-P after giving their 100%.
Best of luck!
Although this paper is impressively challenging considering that day and age, but comparing it with CLAT is a bit too much.
Engineering seems like an all-round safer option in the long run.
I get the feeling that if you choose NUJS over a good NIT, you'll regret your decision during the dreadful phases of your career. I can't really say the same for engineering; it doesn't really shut off any major future prospects apart from being a lawyer.
Am I talking about the MBA course at BITS Pilani? I'm talking about an institute that has done phenomenally well in the B-School sphere and has achieved a CAT cutoff of 97 percentile within 2 years. I mentioned it because BITS LAW and BITSoM are supposed to function together as a singular campus.
"Hiring two Jindal Profs means little," Where did Jindal come from dude? Is it a certain quality acertaining factor that I'm not aware of? The current batch strength would be about 120 students (unheard of, right?), which doesn't really require 15-20 faculty members. I've thoroughly explained the scholarships that BITS LAW is offering, can't you understand that it would be a lot cheaper than Jindal if you managed to get one?
Your arguments are so trashy ngl, don't you think one has to attend lectures in order to gain more insight about his area of interest? How does GLC not having an attendance criteria make it such a big of an advantage that an institute that has literally signed up with quite a few firms to take in their students doesn't even compare? And as far as summer internships go, that's the norm in most universities, which seems to be working out well for them.
PS: I would've rather not replied to this but now I've written it so I might as well publish :(
1. Mumbai: You can't really downplay what it means to have a campus in Mumbai since all the major firms are set up in Mumbai itself.
2. Good internship and placement opportunities: They have really managed to have names like Pallavi Shroff, Haigreve Khaitan, and Justice UU Lalit on their advisory council. They've also managed to reach an agreement with Trilegal, AZB & Partners, SAM, CAM, Khaitan, Bain and Company, Price Waterhouse Coopers, and Ernst & Young to consider their students for placements and internships.
3. The need of the hour Specialisation Courses: The Institute will offer specialisation in four fields, which are as follows:
(A) Corporate and Financial Law
(B) Technology and Media Law
(C) Entertainment and Sports Law
(D) ADR and Mediation
All of them are really interesting fields to specialise in, as opposed to the mundane specialisations offered by other colleges. They also claim to have curated the course after discussing the current needs of the legal system with managing partners of T-1 law firms.
4. BITS Alumni Network: It's a network as big as all of the NLU Alumni base combined (even bigger). BITS have left a noticeable dent in the Indian entrepreneurial sector with companies like Swiggy, Groww, BigBasket, Netscope Mindtree, Ofbusiness, Sugar Cosmetics, FreeAgents, Redbus, MPL, etc. (all unicorns).
Although I would agree that they might not be as receptive to BITS Law grads as opposed to BITS Pilani grads, but the network itself is way above anything any law school can offer.
5. Good start with BITSoM: They also opened up BITS LAW's elder sister institute about 2 years ago, which is being considered the fastest-growing B-School in the country, with average stipends of the whole batch ranging up to Rs. 1.61 lakhs for two months. It's safe to say that they've surely cracked the B-School market which is considered to be even trickier than the law school market.
6. Good Faculty + New Way of Teaching: (At this point, it might even seem like a PR comment lmao, but it's just that I've researched about it as good as anyone could have.)
The institute has a solid faculty line-up with individuals who have performed really well academically throughout their careers. Mind that they're not very experienced, but all of them have good publications and substance in their profiles. The faculty-to-student ratio is decent too, at 1:20.
https://www.bitslawschool.edu.in/faculty
The institute claims to follow a new age learning method whereby they'll ensure faculty-student interaction to the extent that the faculty knows each and every student completely. (At least they're claiming to follow this practise)
7. Good Scholarships on offer based on merit, gender, diversity, disability, etc.: They're claiming to have set aside more than 3 Crs for their first batch of scholarships. Although there is no cap in the number of students they'll offer scholarships to, I've heard that the number will be around 70% of the batch, which ultimately translates to about 52.9% of scholarships to each individual. {30000000รท0.7ร120}
Unlike IIULER, BITS LAW seems to be genuinely serious about building a new age law school. They've got a bit too many green flags to be considered a scam, and high fees shouldn't be the only metric to judge what it is catering to. I do not believe that BITS LAW is trying to be an alternative to Jindal for rich kids; I think it's trying to do what was initially expected of MNLU, Mumbai.
PS: A lot of the things are mere claims at this point with no actual testimony of them. But as far as my individual research goes, this institute is worth looking into :)
If giving any personal information is a matter of concern then you can also elect someone who is comfortable representing your views publicly.
Just wanted a lil heads up on the progress since some of the proposed features are still in the pipeline. I was a fan of both the ideas commented below:
1. Classification of threads
2. Being able to pin your favourites
There was another concern, there have been several complaints about threads being a bit confusing due to the removal of numbering on them. Is there any way you could bring it back? (E.g. 1.1, 2.8.a, etc.)
I also would like to have an option to bold or italicise the texts, but it's not that important since I was the only one to use it frequently.
The blue theme is pretty cool, but you could also try more alternatives if that's possible.
I do have some interesting ideas for increasing interaction and gaining more audience, but it seems like we've already got our hands full :)
Don't you think it should be common courtesy for the host to introduce himself formally before asking for your names? The list of applicants would be quite a sensitive document, which would reflect one's stance against the Indian firms they're employed under.
There should be a more transparent way of doing this!
These publications (mostly from a notoriously infamous organisation) are beyond useless. Although one can still strive to get one good publication, even if it's in a small blog, if he/she diligently works towards the topic concerned. All it requires is a fresh perspective to look at things that have not been looked at before, and voila, you've got an acceptable publication!
And what makes you believe that Pharma has the potential to go big in future as opposed to fields like TMT, International Law or IB Law?
You've got an eye for spotting agenda driven threads, nice!
Although it won't hurt to give the benefit of the doubt to the commentators, For all we know it could turn out to be a healthy debate from both the sides :)
You've to give a proper reasoning for your actions, anything attacking left seems to be trollish at this point.
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