I have a doubt. Can someone please clarify if my below illustration based on the above comment is correct?

For example, my retainer fee per month is INR 1 Lakh, and my bonus is 10% of my annual retainer fee, i.e. INR 1.2 Lakh. As per my offer letter, my total CTC for the first year will be INR 13.2 Lakh.

If I join the firm in August 2024 as an A0, and if I get promoted as an A1 in March 31, 2025, I will make an aggregate of INR 8 Lakh as monthly retainer fees from August 2024 to March 2025. My bonus will be INR 80 Thousand (i.e. 10% of my annual retainer fee).

Therefore as an A0, will I make INR 8.8 Lakh, and not INR 13.2 Lakh that is mentioned in my offer letter?

Yes, TNNLU is on the path to becoming a traditional government law college. All the faculty members are Tamil, and most will speak Tamil slang in the class. The Faculties are not just Tamil, but most have never been outside of Tamil Nadu, so they have a parochial approach to teaching and class discussion. Many female students face comments from faculty members saying that being fair in colour does not mean being beautiful. There is too much cast politics in faculty members and stdunts. Just looking at the company of teachers, you can identify their cast. The Vice-Chancellor is repeating the history of dictatorship. All the public communication has been blocked. Written exams have become a mockery as the equations paper has too many options. Even Tamil students are feeling disappointed as TNNLU is becoming Tamil Law University there is nothing national in it. Placements have been reduced, but in the future, no law firm will come as quality is rapidly downgrading.

Correct. Both the right-wing faction and woke faction of NUJS students make such a big deal out of ideology and culture wars, as if their life depends on it. But the professors who they think sympathise with their respective factions are all opportunists. They will follow whoever is in power.

Either he must be lying regarding loan/actual price/financial background or just making you c**tya. Even judicial officers salary is highest among all government services yet purchasing 1.2 cr w/o loan not possible... according to HBA a govt officer having min. 5yr of service can take max. 25 lakh loan i.e.,equal to 34 month basic pay (subject to repaying capacity) one time in entire service & rest amount have to bear from own pocket. So if he have 1cr home in initial year than he must taken loan + pre earnings or dowry otherwise not possible [black money bhi itna avi nhi mile ga below Civil Judge (SD)]

Im from a tier 1 NLU and im working with a tier 3 law firm with gen corp team with PQE of 1 year. Everyone told me that the market for Tier 1 law firm hiring becomes easy after having a PQE of 1 year and yet im not even able to secure an interview with Tier 1 and Tier 2 law firms.

What should I do ?

Hey, I have recently completed my 2nd year. Seeing my peers who have already applied for internships, now I stress about getting an internship. Will I get a good internship in the good team at any tier-2 law firm if I am from a tier-3 NLU, with good grades, participated in 2-3 competitions, and have no papers published? Also, prior internships are not very great.
If I start emailing now, can I go for an October Internship? Also, suggest some good firms for beginning internships at big law firms and the department.

I am a T1 NLU student and live in Mumbai. I have seen many people do their internships in cities where they do not live.

Will it be a good idea for me to do some internships in Delhi or BLR just to demonstrate to recruiters that I can deal with challenges with ease and am open to new experiences?

Nifty gained 1000 points after all of these social media clickbait articles died down. Thats almost a 4.5% return in less than 2 weeks!

Hope OP gained back his 9 lacs! And I hope all the idiots who simply downvoted any comment which dismissed claims of BJP losing majority, would have learned their lessons to actually READ the news articles' content rather than just the title of the articles.

Depends on what terms you part ways under. Check the loan documents to see whether any of your parents has signed it as a guarantor, which is common with educational loans. If they have and they inform the bank that they no longer wish to remain a guarantor, then you may have trouble with the release of further disbursement of the loan amount in subsequent years. If however, they choose not to do so, then it is unlikely that the bank would care. In some cases, the parent also chooses to keep servicing the loan partially by paying the interest accrued. Check whether that is happening in your case.

Technical matters aside, I do not really know what is the exact situation in your home. However, you are probably staying away for most of the year anyway with law school and internships. If possible, try to adjust a little bit during the short period of time you do reside at home. Parent-child bond aside, it would also help your financial situation for the next three years at least, since other than the university fees, you would also need extra money for your other needs, internship travel and stay etc. It is often the case that the parents do love their children and want the best for them, but cannot understand that they may be alienating the children because of misunderstanding. Try to talk to them about it, if you have not done so already. Best of luck!

If your are just starting your 5 years why do you expect yourself to have research papers/moots etc. I am at a T1 NLU and even here I know of only 2 people who had their legal research published before they started their degree. Just chill!

Research papers/moots are generally not of that much significance to internship selection unless you are thinking of interning with a T1 firm in your 3rd/4th/5th years or working with certain very selective NGOs (Project 39A, Vidhi, etc). In the case of T1 firms moots and research papers are both very important whereas for top NGOs moots are somewhat less important but you need to have done excellent research work.

I have a better solution. Let's make a system where every penny earned by an individual be deposited with the state, of which 10%-20% is given to such person for survival, rest the state may keep for whatever it decides to do with it including development. Why to maintain this facade that a person works and earns for himself/herself and a part of which is given to the state as taxes for investments as it deems fit.

Probably true. I've been applying for a year or two for every month I could possibly intern but I only get rejected, whereas I see people on LinkedIn simply posting about their acceptance for a month I got rejected for, while my past internships have been far better than theirs.

Not easy. Most lower district court judges wait till they get elevated to HC (and get the immunity) before hitting long sixes. Others wait till their last 1-2 year for maximums.

Even the dishonest judges do not become openly corrupt so early in their career and most of those who do end up getting fired. Your friend, if corrupt, is stupid and about to get fired.

So stupid to see law students discuss this 😂

Are you blind? It is us who will get them out of paying this. A dead obvious solution is trusts, which are already in use by anyone serious about their money. Another easy one is registering a political party (you don't have to actually content elections and there is no tax on its income).

No one will ever do something they have a disincentive to do if they can conceivably avoid it. Assets in India? Move assets abroad (security of capital is better anyway?). Move assets to crypto. Arrey pagal ho kya? Sorry I'd prefer the money to remain in the economy in productive assets and capital investments.

And who are these leftist "economists" anyway? Who died and left them in charge of national policy? These are academics/nobodys, who nobody cares about and nobody will listen to inshallah till we have democracy. Their recommendations and endorsements are not worth the paper they are printed on, because they have no legitimate authority to be preaching to the people of this nation.

To all the "tax terrorists" wanting to take our money away: 😡🖕🤡

You are making the obvious mistake that in Europe the gives you quality free healthcare, excellent public transport, a clean environment and top-class public universities. We get none of that. All our taxes go into the pockets of politicians. You people are essentially saying that we need to give our crorepati politicians more money.

Er.. you haven't read the post. It says 2024 will be an indication for 2026, because in the history of Bengal the party gaining momentum in the Lok Sabha has always won the forthcoming Vidhan Sabha.

It's relevant for NUJS because a BJP dispensation will replace the TMC people on the governing body overnight with BJP or pro-BJP people, e.g. Vikramjit Banerjee, Sanjeev Sanyal etc.

I would recommend speak to the students of both courses instead of trusting anonymous people on Legally India who have their own headcannon and agenda to spread.

As a nujs bsc llb student, I'll say this. It is a relatively new course although you will get a lot better profs to teach the legal subjects. Currently we are deciding whether to go with our own placement cell or a joint one with ba peeps. The sja has also assured us that the number of electives will be increased from next year. Barring 1-2 professors most are pretty decent in the criminology and forensics subjects.

I am not going to lie current 3rd 4th and 5th years kind of look down at us, but situations are changing. For eg this year,both the ba and bsc batch freshers are really amicable with each other and there has been no "drama" since both entered nujs through consortiums lists only.

Thought readers here would relate, as many of us would like to leave boring corp law careers and follow our dreams! 😇

https://www.ndtv.com/feature/scary-as-heck-but-iit-kanpur-alum-shares-why-she-quit-her-corporate-job-to-pursue-passion-5738217

I want to leave my parents as my household is getting very toxic and abusive, the problem is that I am on loan, if I leave my parents’s support, will they stop the loan too? Kindly figure out ways to help me please, I don’t wanna discontinue my studies. I can’t turn to any other relatives too

You need to recover your mental health first. Start seeing a therapist or counsellor they will help. I was in the same situation about a year back and after spending some sessions with the counsellor provided by the college, I am much better now. She helped me to see what were the things holding me back and how to get over them.

Bro. Therapist. Now.

Internships will come and go. You need to work on that voice inside. The inner voice need not be bubbly and positive all the time, just calm.

And yes, there are bad internships. Why won't there be?

P.S. - speak to a nice therapist. And. Stand in front of a mirror, and address yourself, speak to yourself like you would speak to a friend in the same situation, with kindness and understanding. It will seem funny, but it will help more than you think.

NYT article reproduced here: https://www.yahoo.com/news/lawmakers-dial-pressure-alito-recuse-113433337.html

AP article: https://apnews.com/article/alito-flag-supreme-court-roberts-justice-senate-104ded51a089642a7a449b3d3234a3e6

Yes, both LiveLaw and Bar&Bench are not sharing the order, but they forgot that there is something called Indian Kanoon, which students can access for free, and something called LI, where students can discuss law school scandals. Link to order below.

Note that the order deals with a technical issue of limitation, rather than the merit of the allegations.

https://indiankanoon.org/doc/26791297/

This rumour is going around because people think that is Naveen Jindal post joining BJP will remove Raj because of his proximity to Congress politicians and recruitment of supposedly woke professors. Here’s why the rumour is baseless:

- Raj’s Congress friends are actual Naveen’s friends. The whole Jindal family has been loyal to the Congress for years. Raj was merely carrying out orders. In recent times, Raj has similarly been cosying up to BJP leaders and set up the right-wing Jindal India Institute, which has Modi fanboy Sreeram Chaulia as the head.

- Re recruitment, things are changing. The past left-wing hires were partly political (the professor at the centre of recent controversies is the child of a former Congress MP) but also because Raj himself is a human rights guy and had some biases. Not any more.

I am a Non-NLU student currently about to start my 5 year, I am tired of sending application to each and every firm on daily basis. Could anyone please suggest me where I am lacking, do research paper and moots plays a crucial role for the acceptance of your internship? By each and every passing day, a thought of me getting unemployed at the end of my law school keeps on driving me towards depression. And who TF says that college does not matter indeed it does.

Hi all,

I’m an IBC lawyer, planning to switch to a general financing practice.

I have two offers: 1) a team which does insolvency restructuring and structured finance; and 2) a full fledged financing team.

Can I request the SAs/PAs/Partners here to guide me in terms of future prospects for both the practice areas? The pros and the cons?

Thank you.

@Moderator request if you could please quickly publish this, as I need to accept one of the two job offers by Monday. Thanks.

I was just a week away from concluding this internship.. but I couldn't bear it anymore. I was simply horrendous at the tasks I were assigned. Associates had to explain same proposition million times only for me to forget them like 2 minutes later. I am hardly able to make sense of what I did in these 3 and a half weeks.

It was only a matter of 5 working days left with a presentation at the last day. My self esteem has taken such a beating that I can't face anyone now. I came back home crying everyday, still doing pending tasks I was too slow to get over with during the day. Today I mailed the HR at 10 pm saying that I want to end the internship with immediate effect due to preponing of semester exams ( a shitty excuse) and had the audacity to ask for certificate 'as only a week was left'. Part of me feels happy that I won't ever have to go there and can finally be left to my own devices. But on the other hand everything feels bleak. I wasted my time, money, resources and along with a slot that could have gone to a deserving candidate. Not to mention burned bridges with all people there due to my inefficiency. It was a coward loser type of move which I felt necessary to protect my left over fragile self worth. I might as well be having a nasty combo of undiagnosed social anxiety and depression since I avoid and hate meeting people. Even generally my sentences are never longer than a few sentences and answers mostly monosyllabic. I don't see myself getting employed anywhere with this attitude or surviving for long in this competitive world. I'm in my mid twenties nearly graduated and jobless. I don't know what to do. Please suggest something anything.. did I make the right choice? How to get out of this rut? Do you guys also have similar stories to share ?

what an ▮▮▮ - ▮▮▮ you can be to believe in such nonsense. Oh, BTW there was no research or paper rather it was an article which is merely an opinion on SAT scores of black.

It has to do with the basic economics, people who invest in pre coaching for IIT's or SAT's tend to get better scores than the ones who did not took any pre coaching because it requires money! Cast and color is not the issue here. -_-

It is exactly the same, Cal HC judgment also cites the APHC judgment (Muralidhar Rao's case): https://www.livelaw.in/pdf_upload/displayphp-541120.pdf

Jindal officially announced Shailendra Mehta's joining a long time back: https://jgu.edu.in/jgu-appoints-shailendra-raj-mehta-as-university-professor/

But according to the above link, "Professor Mehta is stepping down from administration to focus full-time on research at JGU". So unlikely he is going to take over Raj's position?

Choosing banking finance and expecting mental sanity is like choosing spicy noodles and expecting swiss chocolaty taste.

The nature of practice demands super extra efforts. Life will go for a toss- no doubt. That is at every place where you have good deals.

The team has relatively good culture when you compare it with rosy places like AgedB, Shaitan and Co, SCam, ShAM, TRyEagle. Work hours may be more or less.

PS: This is from a source who has been working there for years.

In banking finance team your LIFE sucks, and MONEY rocks.

But still, there are some rare good teams, where the above will hold true only when there is a neck to neck situations.

1. Aashit Shah or Utsav Johri or Anish Mushroomwala or Tirthankar Dutt at JSA

2. Rohit Raghavan at Saraf

3. Karan Mitroo or Girish at Luthra

4. Ishan Handa or Anand Shah at AZB

5. Mallika Chopra or Pranav or Kanak at Trilegal.

Feel free to add to this list.

Hey, can anybody help me with information about the Aptitude Assessment Test (AAT) at ALG Law Offices for the Legal Trainee position in General IP? Specifically, what is the test about? Is it multiple choice (MCQ)? What topics should be covered? How is the essay writing question typically given? Also, are you monitored through a Zoom meeting during the test?

An NLU grad with work ex with a good firm or top Senior Advocate represents the cream of young legal talent. Add more ingredients, like an LLM from abroad or good speaking/writing skills, and you have someone who would do very well in politics. Yet, very few such people are joining politics. I am surprised to see very mediocre young lawyers being made party spokespersons by the BJP, Congress, AAP, TMC, DMK etc.

Why is it so and is time to change things?

So I had recently appeared for SLAT 2024 and I have even been shortlisted for SLS pune and got PI calls but I don't think I can afford the fees . I am going to appear for MHCET and I do think I might be able to crack GLC/ILS

I need help regarding following points

1)Is SLS pune worth it ( for a education loan)

2) if I am selected by PI and I get GLC/ ILS should I drop SLS P

3) after getting into one of these institutions is it worth it to give another CLAT attempt

That was actually an exception, I know this person well, he got admission in nalsar and his degree is from nalsar, and he was just permitted to attend courses at nujs that would then get transferred back to nalsar. This was done by a special MoU signed between nalsar and nujs, only so that this person could continue his college along with his treatment. Think of it more like an exchange semester (but longer) where you can go to another college and your grades/credits get transferred back, but again I would like to stress that is was only a special accommodation due to his condition and probably will never happen again. Nowadays, nalsar allows people who need constant medical care to attend their courses online.

A GLC Student here

Attendance is not strictly enforced,yet

Faculty at PGCL isn't any great either. Even you can read from bare act since you know how to read english.

Few professors at glc (pithawalla, daswani etc) are senior & exceptionally good at their subjects

Branding helps.

Although glc is not what it used to be, at least for next 10-15 yrs will recommend it over pgcl

just check their placement website glcplacements.com

Oh, when faced with a GC who made a similar complain about their existing inventory registration budget and asked us about the costs, we clearly told them that we could do it at half the cost. But you know the reply we got?... "The promoters wouldn't agree at that low a cost cz 'there's a kickback involved'"
As for Gurgaon courts...don't even get me started. I have seen clients ask lawyers to return their appearance fee because "matter got adjourned", and "aaj to kuchh hua hi nahi fees kis baat ki", when the lawyer (who we happened to know) had spent 2 whole nights preparing their last-minute bail matter and a lot more. So Counsel Venting: Calling out all Shameless clients who want to get work done for free.