I think you need to expand your comprehension, as your explanation for my decision are just immature. Even if you go to Harvard Law but with this level of logical understanding, I'd still be a better lawyer than you XOXO

also P.S. they could be better colleges, but aren't for me.

keep y'all posted ;)

NLS 18 placed

https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/272682-why-was-nlsiu-day-zero-a-flop-show-or-was-it

NLUJ 27 placed

https://nlujodhpur.ac.in/university/day-zero-batch-2024

I mean, get a life bro.

(According to inside sources), the new administration is strongly aligned with the RSS (Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh). The tender that has been allotted was influenced significantly by internal politics within the RSS. Among our students, there are individuals whose parents are high-ranking members of the RSS. In light of recent incidents, the college administration sought the assistance of these high-level RSS members to maintain its reputation. Consequently, the students are now facing repercussions due to this involvement.

Title. Do they do any corporate work/ is it advisable to join them for general corporate/ M&A work?

If not, can you suggest any under the radar Firms/ places to apply to in Mumbai within the above mentioned practice area? Thanks!

(Speaking from the perspective of an A1).

Difficult to give a precise answer given the multiplicity of laws involved in a matter, but having a strong hold on CPC, basics of Evidence, Contract, Companies Act, IBC, PMLA, Prevention of Corruption Act, CrPC (for white collar teams) and Arbitration Act should be a good start

What even does the sprint part have to do with law firms being female centric. I have personally experienced a lot of bias and lack of mentorship that was given to average at best male colleagues by male seniors, so do not go around talking about things you have no insight on. FYI it wasn't just my personal experience, almost all female junior female colleagues who didn't want to be sycophants experienced this.

Clear bias. The American conservatives always speak of 'the blob'. They don't realize that there is a 'blob' here, on an Indian shitposting website they've never heard of, which is much more effective than anything they've got! This bunch of people:

(1) deliberately engage in sensership of the truth (see redactions); and

(2) openly take sides when the truth doesn't suit them (see the downvoting pattern).

GK- Drishti IAS Monthly Compendiums

Logical Reasoning- GMAT Logical Reasoning Bible

Legal Reasoning- Ratanlal and Dhirajlala on Torts, Mulla on Contracts. Read NLSIR, NUJSLR, ILR, and other Oxford Journals. It's fine if you don't catch the nuances.

English- Read fiction to your heart's content.

Quant- Your usual coaching material should be enough.

From the story itself:

"The highest number of freshers recruited were from Jindal Global Law School (JGLS), Sonipat, with 3 students hired on Day Zero and 8 through PPOs.

Followed by Gujarat National Law University (GNLU), Gandhinagar, with 3 students hired on Day Zero and 7 through PPOs.

8 freshers were hired from West Bengal National University of Juridical Sciences (WBNUJS), Kolkata.

5 recruits are from National Law University Jodhpur (NLUJ).

4 hires each are from National Academy of Legal Studies and Research (NALSAR), Hyderabad; National Law Institute University (NLIU), Bhopal; and School of Law, Christ (Deemed to be University), Bangalore."

exactly this. why is this marked as contested and trollish? has nobody here had the diligence to even open the link and scroll until the 4th para only, including the mods? CLEARLY states that the law school they hired most from is jindal. if y'all can't even read this properly, what law firm jobs and all you want boss?

5 saal se profession me hu, kal hi Best Regards ko Best Retards likh ke bheja hai,

Itna darega toh sikhega kaise,

As long kisi ki jaan nahi jaa rahi, zyada dil aur dimaag pe load nahi lene ka,

Mistake karne ka, us se seekhne ka, and aage badh jaane ka, but try karne ka ki same mistake repeat naa ho,

Naya mistake karne ka, Naya lesson seekhne ka:)

The plight of state NLUs is now pitiable. One is unable to pay full salaries to faculty, another one does not give proper food in the mess, in a third one female students are not safe, a fourth one where students get ragged for not addressing seniors as "sir", .........the nonsense continues.

And now this.........one can only pity them.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/gnlu-battles-millipede-invasion-gets-hostels-vacated/articleshow/111646781.cms

The best of state NLUs are behind them. Valiant attempts by respective students and alumni to create an upbeat narrative are fake (like some random laughable "Roads" scholarship) and cannot hide the internal rut anymore.

In contrast with a lot of articles, this article uses Greece as a metric. Greece is the poorest first-world country. If India grows at 7.8 percent between now and 2047, then by 2047 India’s per capita income in PPP terms may match Greece. So basically what put China ahead is that they had a 25-year honeymoon period where they grew at 10 percent. We need such a period.

https://www.ft.com/content/7ebec65b-79fb-4366-8d55-bc817c8606ac

👏👏👏😊😊😊❤️❤️

Proves that non-NLU grads can do just as well as NLU grads, if not better, if they work hard!

https://www.barandbench.com/news/corporate/azb-veteran-ananya-sharma-moves-to-jsw-group-as-group-general-counsel

Here are some of the books (for each section ) that you can utilise for your CLAT preparation:

1. Logical Reasoning : A modern approach to Logical Reasoning by RS Agarwal & Verbal Reasoning by RS Agarwal.

2. Legal Reasoning : Legal Awareness and Legal Reasoning by Pearson’s & Law of Torts by RK Bangia & Objective Legal Aptitude by RS Agarwal.

3. Quantitative Techniques: Quantitative Aptitude by RS Agarwal & Quantitative Aptitude for Competitive Examinations by Pearson’s

4. GK & Current Affairs: GK & Current Affairs yearly by Arihant Publications

5. English : Objective General English by RS Agarwal & The Pearson Guide to CLAT by Pearson’s

What does one have to do to get a tier 1/2 internship, when they come from a non-NLU?

I am a second year law student pursuing a three year LL.B. course from DU, I wish to get into corporate law, specifically B&F or Fintech or Data Privacy.

Additionally, I’ve done diplomas and other courses focused on such areas of law.

Now, what exactly do I do to get a good internship knowing that most law firms prefer NLU students or students from very well connected private law colleges?

The brutally honest answer is that neither of those law programmes have any relevant credentials — For both, there are no campus placements onto any well-known firms, there currently are negligible accomplished alumni circles, there's a bare minimal corporate exposure, and there's not much of reputation for graduated from either programmes within both the corporate and litigation fields. At least the old GLC-ILS type colleges (for example CLC, BHU, Rizvi, PGCL etc) have some reputation and contacts in litigation, even though they're just as easy to get into. As such, I can't see any ROI on your investment of the money and the 5 long years at all. I'd see much more ROI in taking a gap year and retaking CLAT.

I am considering it on the basis of their culture and my uni's alumni there. Pay is very important for me though, as I have financial obligations. I am confidant about getting a PPO from another firm before day zero since my interview went well. Still, please feel free to correct me about their culture, it'll have a huge impact.

Worst part is immigration laws in US.

Australia, Canada etc prefer Legal Immigration. In US it's easier to be an illegal Indian immigrant than legal immigrant because of country caps.

Even harvard, Stanford MS students have been kicked out of us because they didn't get H1B.

Worst part is H1B is a lottery based visa. As an Indian it's practically impossible to become an American citizen because of country cap in green card.

The fact that Nluj admin has been always oversmart can be always inferred from certain perspectives. Few months back Nluj opened their day zero doors earlier than NLS which costed everyone their jobs as the college (NluJ) was barely able to place anyone within their batch.

“ NLUJ RCC doing its day z before all other T1s was a pretty well executed Italian torpedo strategy

the scenes would have been far far worse had we come after nls, nalsar and nujs”

Source: - https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/271584-is-2024-day-zero-looking-gloomy-across-colleges

From NLS, and I am wondering too. I place the blame squarely on the redundant things we are being taught in law school. Barely any exposure to commercial law. When students pitch in we are told that NLS focuses on first principles and not chasing trends, which is laughable given how many students opt for NLS thinking they will have a shot at the corp firms. At this point, I am actually contemplating a different career option given how there is such deference to social sciences and contempt towards anything related to commercial law...Sad times. The university has also stopped assisting us with placements, it has always been a student driven process that has lead to people getting corp jobs.

I happen to be in my third year of law school and am eagerly looking forward to interning under a good Senior Counsel practicing in the Cal HC, I am willing to work in a firm as well, but I want to expose myself solely to the litigation side of things. So can all of you kindly provide a few names of such Senior Counsels or firms that happen to frequently hire interns and also have a fairly accommodating attitude towards interns? I’ve seen similar threads in LI for Bom & Del, however, I have been unable to find any precise or insightful thread touching upon this topic w.r.t Calcutta (or Kolkata as per your preferred nomenclature). All forms of suggestions are welcome! Anything remotely insightful or informative will be highly appreciated (even sarcasm & satire, for they showcase an outstanding grasp over one’s wit:) Thank You!

We really are hoping the university does something soon. NLUJ has introduced a mess policy. They got in a tender so awfully negotiated that the vendor has restricted on the amount of vegetable each student gets, and restricted egg allocation to one per student. Only Rice and Daal is unlimited, thank heavens. Daal is watered down on most days. Non veg is served only on 2 days, again highly restricted. Due to the vendor's religious beliefs, no eggs/non veg will be served or even the ones we have ordered on zomato can be had in the common mess area. There is clear religious dictum being issued by a vendor on the students. I for one, am a fat kid, lost a couple of kilos, kinda glad I guess but I should lose weight on my own terms not because of a faulty admin and a bad mess. Admin has asked us to wait. They are re-negotiating the same (it's been a month). If the admin does not get the mess' mess in order, students are planning to protest against the same. NLUJ Alumni reading this, kindly bombard the Admin with emails and action regarding this.

In my 5th year, got placed in a T1 in the beginning of my fourth year. No connections or can't even dream of connections. I made them, pursued and texted alumni, saw what interns had to do to stand out in a firm. Approach and called up boutique firms by randomly Googling up a list. Got good boutique internships, upgraded myself wrote articles, did courses. Started getting T1 internships at the beginning of third year, and worked further and a couple of T1 internships later, was placed. Doing CFA now, not to change fields but to upgrade myself and I know will be a transferable skill. Develop your skills mate, you can't say "I am tired of over compensating" You sound like a Jindal Kid, everyone has to work equally hard.

Income and corporate success are not the pointers that men are looking for in a woman for marriage. That may be important for you as per the feminist brainwashing. What men ACTUALLY give importance to in women is to - beauty, physical attraction, character, stability in a relationship, good conversation, mental peace when she is with us. That career n all those attributes are looked for in men by women on the top of the charts. This is the bitter truth of how majority relationship dynamics work in this world.

You can't really teach yourself (I mean you kind of can but doing it without a mentor or supervisor just massively increases the time and you're way more likely to make mistakes and get bad habits etc).

I suggest you just get hold of lots of real examples of contracts and pleadings and read them and then get a job and practice a lot

You’ll not be eligible to write the exam. You need to fill in the details of your foreign university, verify those transcripts, enter details of your LLM uni and provide proof of attendance which you get after completion of the course.

You also have to take mandatory courses during LLM which are NY Bar subjects - consti, evidence, CPC etc.

Adding my 2 cents here, as an LLM student in the US.

1. LLMs in the US are expensive with little to no financial aid in the top universities, especially for the commercial / private sector.

2. The barriers to entry for a JD are high (LSAT and interviews require intense preparation).

Even then, the JD is 3 times the cost of an LLM, and after paying close to 50% taxes abroad, it may take you 3-4 years at a very high paying job to pay it off. The JD remains unpopular for these reasons.

3. LLMs are not intended for people to seek employment in the US. Most colleges state that the program expects that people will return to their home country. However, what it does allow you is an opportunity to network, explore opportunities and convert it into a job if you can hustle enough. You wont benefit from college placements, but it’s similar to how folks choose GLC for access to courts + law firms + corporates in Mumbai. The college will provide you with some resources, but no guarantees.

4. Corporate folks have an easier pathway after a few years of experience, because the work is largely similar. You do diligence and circulate call notes in Mumbai, you do diligence and update trackers in NY. But you get hired based on your demonstrable ability (ie work experience).

5. PQE can be a myth, but volatility of the US job market is not. US law firms continuously review their profitability; layoffs and hiring freezing are common when business slows, which it does every 1-2 years. Those high salaries exist for a reason.

6. Immigration laws are not on our side. International students have to get lucky in the H1B lottery. If you don’t clear it, you leave the country in 6 months or less. The application can be filed only by employers, so there is an inherent risk in hiring a person who may have to quit in under 1 year . Unlike techies and doctors (and STEM folks) the US doesn’t have a shortage of lawyers (least of all foreign qualified ones!)

7. US law firms are exploitative in different ways - working hours can be roughly the same, often more than T1 firms (unless the T1 team has a culture of 12 hrs/day through the year). In India you get reprimanded for inefficiency or low hours or you lose bonus, in the US you get laid off. No gain without pain!

That being said, plenty of Indians manage to do it every year, you just have to be very goal oriented about it.

JAG is not very respected in army. My sources tell it's even worse off for IAF. You'll have a chill life but remember thell throw you out after 10/14 years. It's hell to come back from military life to tough corporate culture in your mind 30s pal. Think it wisely. As an ex JAG who served 10 years I'll happy to trade my years for any corporate law job. It's definitely serving the nation and respect and all, but ultimately you are advocating the army - it's bound to happen you'll not always agree but still argue on one side. Plus JAG doesn't have skills that are transferable. I've had a diploma from a management institute which has put me in a supply chain role with par salary to sustain. But it's not something I would recommend if you come from family of armymen or really really wanted to dorne the uniform.