Not sharing the post link as I don't want him to get trolled (he posted from an anon handle, but still).

Anyway, the message is more important than the messenger. Why is this still going on in an elite NLU? GNLU seems to be a repeat offender. There was that infamous incident during Covid, when the second year batch at the time wrote to the VC demanding "respect" from the first year batch (which didn't even exist at the time).

There is nothing wrong in expecting juniors to use Sir. It’s just a way to instil some discipline and professionalism, because during your internships and eventually jobs you will also be using Sir. It’s harmless at the end of the day. Similarly, tasks like getting a hair cut, wearing ironed shirts etc: nothing wrong in it.

Working at a T1 here with half a decade of experience . Even at level of partners and senior partners they insist on being addressed by their first name, and to not use sir. Respect comes from your work and how you treat someone, not by the use of sir. Such bullying is neither harmless nor useful for teaching any purported professionalism.

As a senior in a journal or a committee, I want a junior to come through professionally. I have seen that a student who has been gone through a fair amount of ragging have higher professionalism/discipline. Instilling discipline is not a seniors duty, if a junior cannot get the work done, you walk off. There are hundreds with more zeal and are better. All I care about is the work product, if you have the discipline from day one good enough, I like you

That's just a fallacious argument you made. Students going through ragging and students getting instilled with discipline have no causation. At best they might have had some correlation in the anecdotal examples that you referred to, since you couldn't have possibly conducted any study in this regard.

1. If you behave professionally, I am sure that 90% of your journal or committee colleagues who are juniors will behave the same way towards you.

2. The fact that you advocate ragging as a practice (implicitly, by saying that those who've been through it are more disciplined) is disgraceful. You should have better filtration processes than this to determine who is genuine, interested and professional.

3. As someone who has experienced ragging and bullying, I can confirm that, if I were on a committee or a journal with you as my senior, even if that was my dream committee or journal, I would be determined to behave unprofessionally with you, because of your support of ragging.

Damn! I thought this sir/ma'am bullshit was a USP of only dogshit tier NLUs like NUSRL. Some of our seniors took pride in instilling "discipline" while being drunk on country liquor. These seniors who could not even intern with district court advocates in their holier than thou attitude went around telling juniors what to do and how to do it. Fkn idiots "disciplined" juniors for clicking a picture outside the mess or laughing a bit loudly in the mess. Now these same seniors ask their juniors for referrals. It is not even funny, just absurd.

And you, old man, are a good-for-nothing loudmouth. It is people like you who prop up unjust systems, allow cruelty in the world to continue and cause misery to everyone but yourselves. If this platform were truely a haven of free speech (which it isn't), the so-called soft "snowflakes" would be able to tell (and show) you exactly where to shove your opinions and suggest, in graphic detail, exactly what treatment you need on a certain part of your body.

I am a good for nothing loudmouth, still you spam my inbox and LinkedIn seeking professional favours without any skillset or knowledge.

How can saying 'sir' to your senior is an unjust system which allows cruelty and cause misery? Before you get absolute freedom of speech, learn how to efficiently use the reasonable freedom you already have.

And if you have so willing to call people on first name basis, start with your home first. Start calling your parents by their names. Charity should begin from home, shouldn't it?

Aaj senior ko sir nhi bolenge, kal teacher ko, parso Judge ko.

What kind of a stupid argument is that - having to call parents by first names? If cultures/atmospheres within individual families permit for that, I am sure people would do it. Also, the saying "charity begins at home" doesn't mean what you think it means. For someone like you, a textbook example of a bully, if ever there was one, it would mean treating your inferiors equally to those of your own rank or your superiors, before lecturing other people on their behaviour. Additionally, for your information, I, personally, haven't "spammed" your LinkedIn DM's or your email, I have better, wiser, smarter and infinitely kinder people who have helped me (when I need it) on my journey towards achieving success in life.

This is why I would like to say that if you are an Indian qualified lawyer and went to law school in India, I will need sleeping pills to cure my levels of concern for our country's system of legal education. Oh fellow sufferers (law students), weep for our country; what have we done to deserve this - the tyranny of mediocrity, the rule over us by the insecure and the powerhungry, these unmitigated scoundrels, these naves, these abominable blaggards, who desire nothing but our abject subjugation to their every whim and fancy?

The reason why people 'spam' your inbox, you selfish ***, is because unfortunately law students must rely on pathetic egoists like you, who are so addicted to backside massaging, it is unbelievable, in order to at least try and gain the skills needed to bring food on the table for them and their families. As students have few other options in life, they debase themselves.

PS: If you really wish to be called 'sir', at least have the kindness to learn to write English properly.

A cultural honorific like 'bhaiya' should be the most a senior should expect. As a fifth-year guy, I will be embarrassed to be addressed as a sir by a fellow student. 'Sir/ma'am' culture should be left to places which require strict discipline, such as Sainik Schools and the Military Academies. Law schools are not the institutions that should be promoting hierarchy.

Ya’ll are too sensitive. It’s pretty harmless ragging. No one is physically or verbally insulting anyone. You just need to say Sir for the first 2 months, wear formal clothes, shave and comb your hair. What’s wrong with that? Just chill. Remember also that your seniors will be there to help you when you need them, such as sharing notes or giving internship advice.

Let me repeat: there is no physical violence or verbal insults, and I do not support such things.

Unfortunately, yes. Even droppers have to say Sir. At least in my NLU. There is a guy in my batch who is two years older to us, so he was old enough to be in third year when he was in first year. However, he had to address even second years younger than him as Sir. Once he asked a second year girl, younger to him, on a date. There was a huge hungama and the entire second year batch came down to our floor and roughed him up, as if he had committed a huge crime by asking her out.

Who says there is no ragging at NLSIU? During Mohan Gopal’s time, two people(X and Y) were involved in a notorious ragging incident. Literally every alum knows about it but will keep an omertà about it.

Eventually X was let off and Y was suspended. X was let off because his dad was a Lutyens Delhi bigwig with direct access to the PM and senior ministers. Y was suspended because his dad wasn’t so powerful.

Ironically, Y later studied abroad and today hobnobs with top politicians, as a lawyer-cum-lobbyist in Lutyens circles. Some months ago, I met some kid (not from NLSIU) who said that Y told him that he got suspended because he protested against the VC and against corruption in the admin. I laughed my head off listening to the blatant lie that Y goes around telling people.