Scary, because he has predicted many things correctly in the past. Maybe the answer is to study STEM or do an MBA instead of law?

https://in.mashable.com/tech/79397/linkedin-cofounder-predicts-9-5-jobs-will-die-in-three-decades-automation-will-takeover

A very myopic way of looking at things. The upside of being from a T1 institution is not in those salary packages but the brand equity and the connections that you form along with the doors that opens for your by the virtue of being from an elite institution.

Stop looking from a short term perspective and instead see on a long time frame

But why is that? We pay almost a bomb to get so called top 'education'. I really feel it isn't about the market being bad. It's really an excuse on part of institutions to not prepare us for the real world. Have you ever heard IIMs saying that we won't be able to place our students? Even this time around when the job market was bad and there were concerns about people going unplaced, many IIMs actively provided support to their students, activated alumni networks to ensure that no one goes unplaced. Have you seen that happening in NLUs? In our NLUs, it's always a student lead process. If we celebrate placements, we should really celebrate the effort and hardwork students put in to ensure they and their classmates are placed in decent places. Now, someone might say I'm comparing apples to oranges because IIMs are postgrad programs, but that is not the point really; the point is that after charging so much fees, the administration of all NLUs does nothing to provide support to their students. Partly because these institutions are becoming buisness making institutions, and really don't care much about the well being of the student community. Of course there is no substitute to hard work but at least we can expect some assistance from these hallowed institutions? People can say that nobody is entitled to a job, but keep yourself in the place of all these young students and then see what it feels like to be in a place where you put in tremendous amount of effort, but would not get anything in return. It's the loss of opportunity cost which could have been better utilized in some other vocation. I rest my case here. Why can't we as student community demand accountability from these institutions? If we are seen as 'consumers', then why can't we demand a return?

I'm getting my first physical internship in a firm, at

"Wadhwa law Chamber" and at the same time at "Sk singhi and Partners LLP", I'm a third year student at a middle tier NLU.

Please suggest me, which one to go for.

(Kindly do not troll)

I have recently entered my 4th year from a non-NLU but a good private college. My internships in the past were in varying chambers, firms, and as a judicial clerk. In my past two internships under tax litigation firms, I have gained immense interest in taxation. I have done one moot but have several decent publications. How should I plan my next two years (internship-wise) to land a job in the said field?

This. The chances of you landing a well paying and comfortable job in a T1 Firm are higher at T1 NLUs like NLS, Nalsar as compared to T2 NLUs like HNLU or NLUO.

However if you do put in the efforts and hardwork to snag a cushy T1 job, you could snag it in both T1 and T2 Universities. It’s just that the work to get a job is easier in the former as compared to the latter.

GLA is a renowned boutique firm working in transactions and is not a lot talked about, thus there is less information available. It is not even in the list of law firm salaries. Having said that, can someone please shed some light on the following:

1. Salaries for A1/A2;

2. Frequency of transactions (basically the quality and quantity of work);

3. Work environment (As the NLS partner and 2-3 associates have left for inhouse work);

4. Growth trajectory.

As the title suggests - Tri had around 400 lawyers in 2020 and has grown to 1000 lawyers in 2024. They are also the highest paymasters in the Indian corp market despite being around for 25 years ( much shorter than CAM/SAM etc). How is this possible? Genuinely curious to understand

Yes, top teams include: Indranath Bishnu (CAM), Shailaja Lall (SAM) and Niren Patel/ Saswat Subasit/ Harsh Khemka (KCo).

Trilegal doesn't have an insurance vertical and AZB hasn't replaced Arvind Ramesh since he left to set up Vritti Law - but Kashish Bhatia and Kritika Agarwal do some insurance deals.

Unconventional - In the DHC, I've seen a couple of students walk up to a senior advocate outside the courtrooms, tell them they want to learn from them, and get an internship on the spot. If such internship works out well for both the junior and the senior, don't see why it cant be converted to a full time job after law school.

They both are equal rivals in their own might. Hopefully these events will provide a reality check to Kakkar madam who is known to email harshly worded emails to associates - the only difference is that Gen Z is fearless in calling out BS

Better late than never.

Moderator please publish this

1. As somebody said, join a committee or society whose activities or work you really enjoy. I would add to that that maybe try joining a committee you know to be active and doing meaningful work.

2. Remember, there are (a) lots of applicants getting good grades applying/competing for these law firm jobs; and (b) lots of applicants who have joined/contributed to a society or their leadership. With a good firm, you could just as easily have 10 or 15 society/committee presidents/convenors/leaders applying for an internship, PPO or whatever, so the firms aren't spoilt for choice.

3. This means that if you take the advice of joining somewhere you really enjoy and that is meaningful (so not just any random old tired committee which would be better off being put out of its misery), you have to set yourself apart there, too; you have to do some really boss work that you can talk about in your interviews or applications.

You are right that LI played a role by encouraging law school fights and also by hyping up law firm jobs at the cost of other jobs, leading to unhealthy comparisons and more law school fights. But you cannot blame LI for the political divisions and woke culture wars that have torn apart NLUs. That is solely a result of radicalisation through social media.

It’s the same story everywhere. Corrupt autocrats answerable to no one run recruitment committees like their fiefdom. Their sole purpose, apart from securing jobs and internships for themselves, is to enhance their power and status in the college, by helping their friends/chelas get jobs, by dating junior girls by showing off, by rubbing shoulders with law firm partners visiting college etc. The biggest issue is how they use many unethical means, such as leaking information, giving inside tips etc. Kind of like insider trading in the financial markets.

What can be done to curb this? Should there be greater oversight by faculty and a complaints system? Should the whole process be outsourced to a third-party agency?

I graduated in 2023 and have been applying for corporate jobs for almost a year without success. The only opportunities I have received are in litigation chambers, which I do not want to join. I am planning to start a CS course to build some credibility and, in 2-3 years, secure a reasonably paying in-house job. Am I making the right decision?

I don't think you're seeing the point of being in committees. It's not to socialize and have something on your CV. If the committee actually does decent work consistently then you grow and learn many, many things. If it's a specialized subject based committee, as a first year, you learn the basics of research, using portals like RBI, MCA to search for legal updates. You learn professional soft skills like writing an email. You have no idea how many people don't know how to write a decent email (not generic chatgpt email) to professionals. You get involved in the committee's event hosting, you understand how the administrative side of a law school works. You meet like minded people and faculties who care about the same cause, you share experiences and build trust. You grow yourself, you help the committee grow, the University grows. But this only happens if the committee is functional and is actually working towards something. Not every committee is important to be a part of but it's an essential experience of law school.

You can be from Harvard and struggle in life. You can be from Chaudhary Charan Singh and Excel in life. Ultimately, you college can give you the initial push, but there are a lot of factors in life- your smartness, your luck, your health, your family and other circumstances that will determine how you do in life.

Realistically: No.

Sarcastic: Yes, this the paramount concern for all law firms - how can we adjust (upwards) the compensation to lawyers to offset their additional expenses due to higher capital gains. Maybe they will ask you for your capital gains statement and provide a bonus equivalent to that

HPNLU has negligible industry connections and no law firm will take you seriously — I've actually seen people ask students more questions about Shimla and tourism than law, because that's all that Shimla is known for. The college doesn't have a lot of funds or pull either in terms of being able to arrange great faculty, though I personally don't know of their current faculty. So at the end of the day, the question is whether you think you think your contacts and hard-working nature are exceptional enough for you to graduate from HPNLU and still get a well-paying job of decent standing. And, since 4500 is an average rank, I can convincingly say that anyone who takes a drop and actually studies for a whole year will probably do better. So, can't hurt to try, no?

"Allowed" kya hi hota hai yaar? At the end of the day, they can't chain you at work. You'll probably sour your relations and get blacklisted from the said firm, in addition to not being able to put references with them. And if there's any joining bonus involved, that'll have to returned. But beyond that, no firm really cares enough about a new joiner.

In an economy as bad as ours, nothing "inevitably leads to good opportunities" — NLS, NALSAR etc can open more doors for you, but you still have to prove your worth every step of the way. To be clear, almost a fifth of the batches at NLS & NALSAR earn average packages at random places, too; the odds are just way worse at other colleges.

Wanted to discuss if its unethical to take help and aid from AI tools like chat gpt to take help in drafting of clauses for agreements and other things . ofc I use ny human brain to fix the issues but taking its help should be considered normal and should be acceptable. Also giving good prompts should is a skill one should learn like googling for specific things is considered a skill now.

Probably 20 years ago googling would have been the seen with the same lens.

I am a 2022 graduate who passed out jobless. For around a year I did assesment internships but still unplaced. After that I'm currently working in a BPO for last one year. I'm completely fed up of this job and it's pay. Is it possible for me to switch and still get a job in the law field now.. or should I just quit and look for something else? I'm 26 and as much a I want to refuse accepting that my life has already been decided I want some realistic advice.

Hi Seniors in PE/VC teams and fellows colleagues I feel it takes me a lot of time to draft and finalise or review Transaction Agreements such as Sha Ssa etc. What is the reasonable if asked by me to complete those tasks is fine without being viewed as incompetent . Please help ?

A lot of us are under the impression that being part of a tier 1 law school inevitably leads to good opportunities for all, but I realised today that it's not the case. I met some people on LinkedIn today who are from NLS and aren't doing that well in life. Are there people like that here who would like to share their experiences? I am two years in law school and contemplating changing streams despite being in a T1. Would appreciate hearing any inputs/personal stories/experiences etc. Thanks.

focus on your answer writing, handwriting matters a lot. Make some diagrams or graph to represent the facts, make the answer more lengthy. Underline the keywords in your answer, also use blackpen/pencil in your paper, along with blue.

I know these are very small things, and it may sound childish. But these tips can make a huge difference. Always look from the perspective of a teacher, out of 60 copies, they can't just read everything, if you make the task easy for them that means there is a right impression. There will bleak scope of marks deduction.