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If you're judging only basis this email, chances are that you haven't worked in a tier 1
Stop before all the heirarchy bootlickers tell you how every fuck up is the junior's fault even if the seniors review everything
A lot of things are elementary and are not reviewed! Partner’s duty isnt to correct every bit of the execution. Its the team’s job and the team has been rightly reprimanded!
Do the clients know that? When I hire a partner to do my work I expect that lawyer to look and sign off on the work product. If lawyers aren't doing that its an ethics issue.
^this.

Companies are paying big bucks because they trust the said partner.

It is a spineless thing for a partner to not back his team no matter how badly they fucked up.
And when you run companies like that you have plane doors fall off just after takeoff. Have we learn't nothing from Boeing?
well he has a lot to think about

how to convince a law firm or even a chamber to give him even 1/3 the salary while everyone is worried he may leak emails (or who knows maybe audios/videos too?)
They are goners anyway

Even if they are not fired immediately to avoid more publicity they will be let go of sooner than later

You know this if you worked at any organisation forget a law firm
Hahahahha competency and hard work clearly beat berating and gossip
only 1 query - did AK bill the client for that work?
(Not grandstanding on the ethics/ HR aspects of team management - am sure clients/ litigation law firms/ other legal service units - all have some crappy situations too)
YOU ARE MORE STUPID THAN HER FOR THINKING THAT THIS IS CORRECT. Talk to me when your younger sibling/ kid faces this at their workplace.
There is no life-death scene in case of lawyer unlike a doctor or engineer. You can compare lawyer to charter accountant or a finance consultant
If clients 100 cr is on the line its more than life and death

Don’t work in law if you think otherwise
Will be? You can barely string an English sentence properly.
tone-deaf, stupid, un-nuanced comment- I hope your partner is giving you hefty increments since your lack of spine will soon catch up w you
When entitled juniors don’t work and just gossip, why do the partners take responsibility? If you give 2 pages to them and they print one, why would you take accountability?
Yes I agree juniors need to take accountability and it may have been embarrassing for the partner. But at her level she should not be calling them out like this in public, she should have spoken to them 1:1 and explained to them the seriousness of the situation.
She cc-ed so many people. Any one of them could have released it.
thats why she should be reprimanded and given warning for doing this act in public leading to such debacle
It’s been traced back. And the person who leaked it has been fired.
They don't need to trace anything, will just fire both or all 3 associates
The person who leaked it is a sweetheart of the email sender. Nothing will happen to the actual leaker.
Hahahaha, ultra toxic work environment and now insane amounts of blatant favouritism, if true. Way to go, Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas.
Why should the juniors take the bate for a bad boss? And plus you don't call out people on email with a casteist remark and mark everyone as if its a puppet show. What the hell Cyril Shroff, is this what your firm stands for?
Pardon my ignorance, but what was the casteist aspect of that email?
There was no casteist remark. Please don't create an issue when there isn't one.
Just out of curiosity- what was the caste-ist comment? In case you didn't read it properly- it was "Maharathi" and not "marathi".
If this person could actually read properly, they would have a real job at a real place and not be doomscrolling legallyindia out of all places
Haha. What a joke. I guess it's people like you who perpetuate a toxic work environment.
Yes, even I thought so until I realised Jaibir Bindra can't be Marathi. Harippa
Bro, I had a very hearty laugh at your comment. Not a lawyer and I don't know what shit actually happens at these law firms, but I hope nothing of this sort happens to you. Harippa
You reading it wrong and then making a comment here shows how casteist your worldview is. Please explain how Maharathi is casteist.
Praise in public, criticize in private. A tenet of leadership communication! She fails that smell test.
Wasn't this mail Internal and not for the whole world? The person leaking mail is the one who made it public.
I'm on Team AK here. Gen Z kids need to shape up.
She needs to do that herself. Her behaviour ill-becomes a partner in charge of a team.
Just in - One of the maharathis has been fired.
her behavious is unbecoming of a partner and boss
I don’t know how much this email leak hurts Avantika Kakkar, it will hurt those associates much more

What a dick move to leak an internal email
Can someone from the Competition Team explain how something (which appears super critical from the tone of the email) went out directly from the A2/A3s to the client/regulator ? Do SAs / PAs not check this?
That is exactly the issue. honestly messed up.
Please tell me which A0/A1 are getting that salary at any law firm except Trilegal.
For your information, there is no SA PA in the team
Sorry it does not clarify. I didn't say the partner albeit the head of competition has to check. I'm asking why an A2/A3 sent out a work product to the CCI without anyone else checking it. I don't see what remuneration has to do with it.
Not so many layers. Were talking bout 1 single layer. We are not talking about a contract going to the client/opposite counsel. We are talking about a market share calculation going to the CCI. Understand the difference.
Literally, at that level. All they have to do is review the work of their juniors. The real question is how did you let that pass without reviewing it and make yourself look like a fool
No they are not supposed to review everything possible

Its not humanly possible

They have to hire people whose work does not require much review

And fire those whose work needs a great deal of review
Wah!

Buck stops at the Partner. When she is signing draft for filing, she is responsible for every letter in it.
Stops with the partner yes

So she will choose the right team

So you know who gets fired

Hint: its not the partner 😂
“lucky to be working at a top firm”

Drop this attitude. The firm is lucky to have hardworking associates. In the US, employers are seen as depending on associates as the associates on the firm.
Abroad they would have “kicked out” these maharathis rather than sending an email! Get a reality check!
For every place any of these people occupy at CAM, there are not ten, but hundreds of qualified lawyers willing to work. “Clearing rounds of interviews” is all very well. But at two to three years of experience, these guys are UTTERLY replaceable.
I was going to jump to CAM as an A2, now I’m not so sure. Might stay where I am.
Kar di na partner wali baat. Just because you wasted your life groveling before meanies doesn't mean everyone has to. This is how the world functions now. AK put something on email for permanent record, she has to stand by it now.
I agree with you. It's the same old culture war between hard-ass Gen X vs woke Gen Z --- with the cool kids of Gen Y munching popcorn, watching the fun and trolling both 🍿😎

#90skidsarethebest
Lol. Her own name is spelt incorrectly. That also didn't help this shitstorm.
I imagine you are a partner at a law firm and have been subjected to this form of toxicity for way too long to find it unprofessional
One of them has been fired for leaking the email. They found out.
You sound like someone who hasn’t worked in a law firm. Reviewing work is a Partners job.

Also, Murthy is not comparable to her. Is the head of a vertical/manager at infy not reviewing the work of the subordinates? That is the parallel to be drawn here
Gen X toxicity meets Gen Z wokeness. That’s what this whole thing is about. A clash of cultures and a clash of generations.
the associates are barely genz mate, it’s all gen y
Watched it, not sure what I'm supposed to be noticing, can you elaborate?
Why is this marked trollish? One can clearly see that AK speaks in a curt no-nonsense manner, while Nisha speaks more gently.
Senior's incompetence, nothing more. Why aren't drafts vetted in the team ? That's half the job of lawyers, and the whole point of layers in the team
Maybe that’s why she’s copied all the other layers in the team in on this email?
How you can basically just say 'trust me bro' in the face of literal written evidence as a lawyer is beyond me ...
Also, from her email, it appears that the issues such as bullying she flags, she knew but ignored till this incident - they didn't matter then. But suddenly matter now.
That first guy in her mail must be a real pain to deal with. She likely stuffed it in for a long time and couldn't control her emotions when the guys arrogance started costing the clients. Nonetheless, she shouldn't have sent that email. Just fire the guy. Why the drama?
Where has the mail leaked? X? Reddit? Facebook?
Extremely toxic, unreasonable, bad tempered and I'll mannered. Shouts at A0s for the smallest mistake, no mentorship, screams on them. How did she become equity ? And why is she not reprimanded yet.
Unfortunately, way too many partners (across all firms) are ill tempered, ill mannered and unreasonable. Until now, being a brilliant asshole has come with no consequences as long as your billings are high and you’re able to keep your clients happy. This needs to change.
What about this person? Care to elaborate?
This is a classic case on NLU vs Non-NLU discrimination, the person who is criticised the most is from an NLU whereas the author of the mail is from some low level law school. We NLUites worked hard to get into NLUs, so these non-NLU people despise us.
Agree to the rest of your points but if you were really very successful you would not be on Legally India, much less write that you are successful on Legally India
successful people need not work 24 hours! that's the NLU mentality you need to get over:)
Also, successful people could also be interested to know what going on in the legal fraternity!
Fun fact: I haven't met a single competent or sincere person from jgls till now. These nashedi ego centric rich brats have no discipline at all.
That reveals more about you than the institution. I have met students of all sorts from JGLS, just like I have from various NLUs and TLCs.
ROFL, literally no one cares what law school you’re from in this profession. Some of the highest fee earning senior advocates at the Delhi high court went to Chaudhary Charan Singh University. You’re simply deluded.
Avaantika Kakkar should be fired from CAM just for the insensitivity and toxic culture that she promotes
Clearly you are incapable of getting even an internship at a tier 1.
bro/sis please raise your voice as these so called elite firms fear alot about having bad repute in public both by client and peers in profession
Change will also begin when you speak up. We imagine a lot of consequences, but honestly it's always better to speak up and if needed move on. there's no dearth of opportunities in the world.
In what world do you imagine conclusive evidence in needed to fire associates?
Giving feedback about it personally, no. Humiliating someone in front of their colleagues, yes. If you follow your standards, then why are you being bothered about her bad behaviour being called out?
Ek baat batao, paisa milta hai ki bas free mein bootlicking kar lete ho?
Yar thodi sahi galat to samajh hai to wohi bat bol dete hai.
So why you want AK to be fired and nothing against the ppl who harrased you despite you having all evidence?
One thing is clear- she is a Tiger Shroff fan.
Wonder where AK did her schooling from. Spelling mistakes by a partner are unacceptable. That too at a firm like CAM, which, in her own words, has been known for its "impeccable work". She got the spelling of "incompetent" wrong.
If anyone has been fired, there must be police case filed against Avantika. She must go to jail
Ahahahahaha

Ahahahahahahaha

Are you a lawyer? What world do you live in? “Police Case” Ahahahahahaha 🤣
The fact that this comment got 22 upvotes just shows what audience LI caters to.
I mean there are lateral hires everywhere; it's the same PAs and SAs roaming around firm to firm. Which is why I'm joining a Big4 - I'm taking a pay cut for the mental stability. Decently prestigious and looks good to get an MBA with this on the CV
These top practice heads at CAM/SAM/AZB, how much do they make per year? Is it mid to high 8 digits or do they ever cross 9 digits?
Wonder if the client to whom this work pertained is made aware of this catastrophe? :p keen on knowing what the founding partner has to say about this.
It means nothing

If CAM asks her she will do it

Then poor fellows will be eased out in next 3-4 months as public moves on 😂
FYI the lady questioning competence of the juniors erred in typing "INCOMPETENCE" in the mail.

Irony writ large
Finally, a new MAHARATHI on the ground to give TAKKAR to the existing Toxicity Queen of competition fraternity.
Thats great of you, no sarcasm. Maybe if you start a petition on this or a separate thread, we can support and drum up support as well. Its only these kind of things that can put atleast a little bit of a second thought into these arrogant, pompous partners and mid levels.
Can someone pls paste the text of the email here? Im reading so much about the email but have not seen the email anywhere.
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