Long and short of it, I worked in a lala firm where the entire team is related to one another. God laid off just as I was about to complete 2 years of service.

Quoted reason: Restructuring of team.

Real reason: my increment/bonus was coming up.

What is the way forward?

I am a graduate of Rgnul and am doing well in life. But I'd suggest not to join the place. 5 years and 15 lakhs are a lot to invest for an uncertain future. For that matter, I'd suggest not to join anywhere below HNLU as the concept of day zero is non existent at such places. The easiest way to get placed is though campus on day zero. If a professional college charging exorbitant fees can't arrange it, then it's simply not worth it.

Push for the GNLU method i.e have a professor oversee the committee while an administrative staff member coordinates with firms. Students should only assist the administrative staff with basic tasks. The professor and administrative staff must be under constant pressure from the VC to ensure more students get placed and if they don't work accordingly, you may complain about them to the VC. This approach aims to create a more equitable recruitment committee. Students are prone to making errors and favouring friends, so it is essential to have impartial adults leading these committees. It has worked well for GNLU.

“Well, I have a message for these protesters: When the Tyrants of Tehran, who hang gays from cranes and murder women for not covering their hair, are praising, promoting and funding you, you have officially become Iran’s useful idiots,"

“It’s amazing, absolutely amazing. Some of these protesters hold up signs proclaiming 'Gays for Gaza'. They might as well hold up signs saying 'Chickens for KFC'. These protesters chant 'From the river to the sea'. But many don’t have a clue what river and what sea they’re talking about. They not only get an F in geography, they get an F in history.”

https://www.livemint.com/news/world/pm-benjamin-netanyahu-to-anti-israel-protestors-you-have-officially-become-iran-s-useful-idiots/amp-11721874335306.html

If I can be brutally honest, even I myself don’t know the name of the river and the name of the sea, although I have retweeted the slogan on my TL. I thought it meant Dead Sea or Red Sea, but that just saw on Google that it’s neither! Anyway, from a humanitarian standpoint we can simply say that millions of children are being killed that is wrong even if you don’t know the history and geography of the conflict. Even the ICJ has said it is wrong.

Hi,

This is addressed to A2/A3 in Tier 1/Tier 2 firms.

Now that you’ve spent 2/3 years in a firm/ over multiple firms, what does the job search process look like for you?

Do you still switch jobs via recruiters?

Do you switch jobs by knowing about openings in College WhatsApp groups?

Do you switch jobs by reaching out to ex-colleagues who have left your firm?

Seniors from other firms themselves approach on LinkedIn to ask to join?

Any other way of getting jobs?

Also, usually what is the timeline for getting another job?

The CJI (who has been a long-time supporter of JGLS) is the Chief Guest. Many VIP government officials, top CEOs and senior lawyers will also be coming —- partly because Naveen Jindal is now a BJP MP and partly because these people are parents of alumni. Plus there is Naveen Jindal himself, along with family. So obviously JGLS needs to put on a good show and showcase the best things about the university. Any other law school would do the same. Case in point:

- NLSIU leveraged its connection with a powerful bureaucrat very close to Manmohan Singh and Sonia Gandhi, whose son was a student.

- NALSAR leveraged its connection with a top Union Minister in the Manmohan government, whose son was a student and who even today is one of the most powerful people in the Congress and a close advisor to the Gandhi family.

This can be right only if he is Inviting a chosen ones in his personal capacity and paying from his own pocket. If it is “Chancellor” dinner and paid from any source other than his own, it is, to put it mildly, is immoral, unethical and should be cancelled forthwith. We always thought him to be person of high morals!

The faculty in charge has been a pain to consult for recruitment and internships. Unnecessary attitude towards alumni and never never reverts when alumni and others reach out to him and his supposedly professional committee for opportunities. Just plain sad to note that students only stand to lose out because of his incompetence and ego.

I had a super weird dream last night, very vivid.

The setting is, I had gone back to my college for some reunion / function type thing. There i met quite a few people we caught up, nostalgia hit, happy to see familiar faces again after almost a decade after graduation.

There was a girl I had a crush on back then whom I was lattu about, then there was a girl who liked me from back then. We all suppressed our urges and just said "Hi! Nice to meet you!".

But the cherry on top of this event was the segment known as - Adopt a Law Firm. This event - Adopt a Law Firm is taking place inside a large hall. There's a lot chairs and tables. Its like a speed dating set up.

Law firm owners sit infront of a panel of 3 college kids and one professor.

The law firm owners are sad looking dejected, as if they're sitting before a bank manager asking for a restructuring or forgiveness of the loan. The kids look hungry and the professors look attentively at the grilling.

If successful, the law firm owner's law firm will get adopted and get an infusion of funds and the kids will join the firm. How the tables turn. That's all the dream was.

who told you that attending one of these universities will set you up for life? There is no university that can promise that. There are harvard grads who are not doing well in life. I know several people from IIT who arent doing well. No guarantees in life. You have to keep working to get better and better opportunities and to get the life you want. NLS will open doors for you that NLU Assam wont. It will even open doors NALSAR wont. but it wont set you up for life if you fail to apply yourself.

the dinner isnt for the parents or the students. The dinner is for Raj and Naveen. Youre misunderstanding the place youre in fundamentally. youre not in an academic institution that seeks to build community. Youre in an educational corporation that seeks to improve its own profits. Educating students or building a community is way down on the list of priorities. Raj, and Naveen, both are fully within their rights to invite whomever they want for dinner. its not discrimination because these are explicitly private affairs. They likely to only invite people they think will be useful to them for their own purposes. You cannot network with 2000 people.

Paying fees does not entitle anyone to be invited to private dinners with a selected guest list. Paying fees entitles you to the opportunity to sit in class, learn, earn a degree, use the facilities. thats all it is.

If you like the parts about this private corporation that makes it easy for you to get a degree without earning it. You will have to put up with this and much worse.

Law jobs are not ending, folks. If law jobs end that also means that AI will have developed so far into MBA and tech to kill their jobs too. We seem to do stuff that is clerical but interpretation and foresight of things are traits which only humans rend to bring. Heck chat gpt for 7 straight cross questions will give a stupid controversial view which if a legal department does will jeopardize the world. Upskill yourself and move on - not cry on li with your broke unplaced ass. I find it so funny how actual environment and discussions in law firm offices are totally upside down of what here they seem so be doing.

A0 hai toh ache se kaam seekh. In house roles bhi honge aur law firm roles bhi tere liye. Apne bache ko jo karana hai stem mba fashion cinema karva dena. But work and learn.

Bro in my opinion and strictly based on experienced CLAT is no saint either? Many times passages repeat from mocks of XYZ coaching word to word. I'm not saying it can't happen on its own - but not like it cannot be even touched or something. I have this feeling that people who can - will find a way to cheap every where. Shouldn't make you worried as you can't do anything to change. Again this is my view on the paper.

Let me contextualise the heavy fee structures of these colleges with this simple fact emerging from a consistent trend of past 5 years: If you get a job with a package of more than 10Lacs, you'll be an anomaly — and in order to get a good job from places like these, you'll have to be a top ranker in addition to stellar references from various internships. The consistent hard work that'll take for 5 whole years is at least ten times what it would take for you to take a drop year and seriously prepare for CLAT. Go do it, these options will almost always be available regardless of how bad you perform next year.

The last time it was active & truly publishing quality content was in 2022. As soon as it went into the hands of some elitist snobs, it started going downhill. Those in the know will know how SidChu had to scold these people to get them in line before leaving Nalsar. Sad to see it losing the value it once held.

As a thumb rule, LLM batches rarely get placed in India. From past 2 years, the trend is that half the batch either remains unplaced or has to accept an offer under 6LPA. If you have existing relations (or contacts) with firms that pay well, they'll probably get you an assessment & in that case, you could get a better firm, such as higher paying boutiques or T2s — pay could range anywhere from ~8LPA to ~12LPA. Tier 1 placements after LLMs are extremely rare, generally limited to 2-4 people in the batch.

I know my in-house exp. probably has 0 value for a law firm. So, how exactly do I switch? I have primarily done IP work (trademark and copyright) as part of internships, certifications, courses, etc. during law school, and so my preferred area of practice would also be IP. My current pay is approx 70k. I am obviously ok to take a salary hit (40-50k pm would be fine) so long as I get good experience in the first 1 year or so. Is there any law firm that I could apply to?

For context, my dad works at a luxury resort in maharashtra which is well off however the company is extremely shady and indulges in weird shit, namely they've taken car loans in the names of their senior employees (including my dad) and apparently pay them the monthly car installment for EMI. When I got to know this it was too late and my dad said he had no option.

What do I do in this situation, is there something that can help my dad get out of this mess, the hotel aims to be the pinnacle of luxury in India but the owner is just a gross wannabe and doesn't pay his employees on time.

My dad is extremely naive and i'm worried for him, please tell me what I can do in this situation. I've just begun my career as an inhouse counsel and obv don't know much.

Any actual advice would be helpful.

F(19)

Hello everyone, can you please help me out on this. Little background i had completed my 12th PCMB in 2024 , by taking a drop year and only scored 58%. However i did not want to be a doctor or engineer and decided to look for other streams and saw a career in law but to my badluck I had zero exposure to how it works and came to know you need to give CLAT to get good law colleges . Now neither did i gave any CLAT OR had a good percentage and still apllied to some universities - the following universities are the ones that accepted me.

- LLOYD LAW COLLEGES

-BENETT UNIVERSITY

-IILUER GOA

-WOXSEN UNIVERSITY

-UPES

Please help me in choosing

I am currently applying for jobs and am a 2024 law graduate. I have completed internships with Anagram, JSA, AZB, and DSK in their general corporate teams. I would greatly appreciate any information regarding vacancies in firms or recommendations for firms where I may have a good chance of acceptance. Thank you!

Ofcourse you can . You still have work experience take a job at a tier 3 law firm . You should be able to crack it and post that to Tier 1/2 firms. Ofcourse you would lose 2-3 years of seniority but that doesnt matter. There are 26 year olds that just graduate out of College .

DON'T do this. A lot of seniors are very temperamental and you can never guess what will blow their fuse. I've seen a well-known senior of Del HC blast a student for walking up to him and asking for an internship. I also know of a recently-designated senior blacklist a student from internship because they called the lawyer directly on their mobile phone after not receiving responses on email.

Don't approach them personally in courts or on phones.

I would say that Antares is a good firm to work with and have heard from my friends that Siddharth Bhavnani’s team is the one which is getting most of the deals there. Have heard good things about his team that there is Good learning experience in his team under Surbhi K, with good mentorship from both the partners. Not sure about other partners in the firm.

It depends.

Winning an International Moot > Research Paper publication in a highly reputed journal > Top 8 of an International Moot = Winning a National Moot > short piece publication at a reputed blog > Avg performance in a national moot.

Overall, unless you have a great team and good shot at doing really well in a moot, publication has a much better RoI than Moots.

For PPO, placements in general: no single criterion decides anything. It depends on how your CV is overall. But don't think no moot means no job.

As part of convocation, jindal is organising a dinner in which only parents of high profile kids are being called. (Read: networking opportunity for higher ups/chancellor in university)

Last I checked….everyone paid the same fee right?

High time jindal stops this discriminatory practice/exclusionary system. It is happening every year.

Thinking of buying a keypad phone in an attempt to cut down on non-essential apps and screentime as my job as an Associate already entails 10+ hrs of laptop screentime.

All important communications are on my email anyway which stays open on laptop all the time.

Anyone here who switched to a keypad phone recently? Any suggestions as to how to go on about it?

1. See how they behave to people exiting the organization. Toxic bosses will be your pal till the time you decide to move on and then make your life hell.

2. Will prioritise their family time and ensure multiple international trip but dare you even exhaust your leaves. For them people who sacrifice their leaves for work are really hardworking.

3. Quick to judge and then refuses to reevaluate their views.

4. Surrounds themselves with sycophants.

5. Will try to make you a junior version of themselves and dare you try to be different.

6. Thinks knows everything and refuses to listen any counter argument.

7. As someone mentioned above, criticizes or judges you jokingly.

Hi, I am from the same college and prepared for judicial services during my time as well, in fact I took coaching from Rahul's IAS in my final year which got over during the pandemic period (hoping you are aware of coaching scene). I was lucky enough (pure luck) to write and appear for interview of some of the states but never made it through. The worst part was the covid period since all examinations got postponed and some were even cancelled (as far as I can recollect). I gave around 2 years of time to me to appear for examinations and after continuous failure in all of them (including PP Examinations as well), I decided to look for job. As a first generation lawyer without any connection, it felt like 1 Vs All types moments. Firstly, through a college friend I entered into a small size law firm practising in all types of general matters and after working there for roughly 5-6 months, I made the in-house switch since the pandemic was still prevalent and as a middle class job security was the foremost thing I was chasing. As luck would have it, I joined an NBFC and worked there for quite some time and moved to Reliance (This was the story part). Now comes the practical part: In my opinion (which I believe you can reject) you should join any law firm having even less matters because that will open many doors for you whether it being interacting with opposite counsels etc., One door will open many other doors, don't believe in any practise area at this point of time, your focus should solely be on joining any law firm or company as the case maybe. Once you have working experience, you can join anywhere provided you have gained some knowledge on your matters. Finding job with a job is a easy task, please use platforms like Naukri and Linkedin and connect with partners, general counsels, Hr etc., that will expand your horizon to look for jobs. These platforms really help, i used to cold email to partners (100's of them) got rejected in 98 of them but made the most out of 2 of them. Your experience of judicial service will help you a lot wherever you go. In one of my interviews, I said my favorite subject is CPC and gave the interviewer one hell of perspective of CPC. Whatever don't let the negativity in this profession affect you, future bright hai tumara, Vakeel ho tum. All the best. Please ignore grammatical errors, I was writing while travelling.