Can you suggest a better criteria, no law college in India produces good research, quality of professors across colleges is trash, except the few good ones, placements is a very fair criteria, it basically indicates that if you perform decently well for four years, you'll atleast get a job which is not the case with other NLUs/ lawschools where firms don't even come to see the talent, so door of opportunities is shut!!

It’s unfair how people with the right family connections get SA status quicker than others. You all must have read Dushyant Dave’s recent article criticising how Vrinda Grover was overlooked for SA status. It so happens that Vrinda Grover’s father, PP Grover, was a criminal lawyer, but he practised at the trial courts and did not have SA status. Neither did he have a foreign degree and study in England like the old elite. Also, though he was a defence lawyer, his clients were usually those shunned and condemned by society, rather than the rich and powerful. On the other hand, Menaka G is from a blue-blooded family whose background is known to all.

If the argument being made is that Menaka G is an NLSIU/Rhodes/Harvard alum + TIME 100 honouree, then Vrinda Grover is a St Stephen’s/NYU alum + honorary PhD from SOAS + TIME 100 honouree before Menaka G.

So then why was Vrinda Grover overlooked?

Currently I am working in Mumbai. Thinking of shifting to Bangalore and looking for opportunities in the banking finance practice. Wanted to get an insight of how is the work culture around there especially in the banking finance practice and which are the good teams to target for ?

You are given only 1 batch to teach, so 6 hours in a week. Ideally you're supposed to be here from 9-5 but hardly any faculty punches in or out, so you take class, attend faculty meetings and leave. You have a message that serves OKish food (relatively healthy, but tasty for 30 & 50).

But because of trimester system, you'll be on your toes for 3 months. Can't miss a single class and classes mostly cannot be rescheduled. You might be frustrated with students when they don't read and come to class, but pleased when they do. However, don't expect others to show empathy towards students, even if you do.

Stick to Mumbai

Fair opportunities and exposure - unlikely that delhi can compete.

Living expenses - delhi will only go up. Cost of houses is catching up to realities of market and lack of new projects - its a matter of time that housing costs will not be a factor btw delhi and mumbai see https://the-ken.com/story/what-happens-when-you-bring-rs-2-crore-to-the-delhi-ncr-house-hunt/

Tread carefully - you don’t want to always double think motives behind a guy approaching you in Mumbai - in Delhi, its not so friendly

Fan of Delhi for lots of reason but comfortable with Mumbai

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It’s not about whether this would bias the CJI or not. The CJI or any judge is not prohibited from having regular normal friends- and he can conflict out of cases when they involve those friends. And this is not being cordial or collegial or civil- inviting someone to worship with you at your house with your family indicates an intimacy between the head of the executive and the head of the judiciary that should make all citizens deeply uncomfortable.

It’s bad form for the CJI or any judge to curry favour with the ruling government in this way. It’s so obvious in its fecklessness I can hardly believe this really happened. I haven’t heard of such a thing happening in the past ever or in any other developed country. I don’t know how anyone thought this was a good idea and how he isn’t ashamed to have done this.

Is it any wonder that there’s so much corruption in the country and no one takes the CJIs sermons seriously when he himself behaves this way ? If this isn’t a crisis of legitimacy I don’t know what is.

Like the way Gangopadhyay J did in Calcutta HC? That's why SC had to always stay. Secondly, the seniority does count and if you're asked questions, you also are given time to reply! And for Bikash and Karuna not getting time, what's their submission going to be, in the main matter? Want to be clear about it.

I am in the first semester of my LLM at NLIU. I like the faculty and facilities provided here. I feel I'm at peace with the intellectual discourse here. It's not too tough or too easy, just enough to keep me interested and not be a burden. So, Should I try and pursue a PhD here just based on the fact that I am enjoying the university environment. Or should I try & aim higher and apply to top 3-4 NLUs next year ? Especially knowing that I would need to really push myself to get into those NLUs.

Lol, how exactly is it better when HNLU has a class of 180 and placed just 37 while NLUD places some 41 out of a batch of 80? There's not even an iota of comparison. Even the batch topper of HNLU would any day trade his place for a seat at NLUD. But you're right, I would suggest all aspirants and NIRF to kindly choose HNLU over NLUD henceforth.

HNLU recently released their 2024 placements:

Data-Class-of-2024.pdf (hnlu.ac.in)

By the looks of it, there are at least 18+ offers paying around 16 lakhs and more. Looks to be a bit better than NLUD 2024. How is NIRF still getting fooled

While I understand that some people take it too far in expecting judges to only be antagonistic or aloof while engaging with the Government, it feels a bit weird to on one hand write judgements talking about how the government is actually violating fundamental rights or being discriminatory or whatever else, and there are some pretty egregious cases with this government, and then also filming a video celebrating a religious festival together with the PM. I'm sure it was well-intentioned and there is a distinction between personal and professional capacities but it still conveys a closeness that perhaps shouldn't be publicised even if it does exist. This is the same guy who claims to not really read what's written on social media or engage with the news cycle very much for fears of bias but inviting the head of the state as a guest somehow is okay and there is 0 chance of bias? Regardless of the soundness of reasoning in whatever few judgements he will author going forward, if it ends up being pro-government, people will suspect other factors being involved (as they already do).

I am not making any allegations and like I said, am sure this was just casual but was just wondering if this is a fair line of reasoning or if there's something I'm missing

Hi everyone,

I would really appreciate some insights on the work culture at KCO Bangalore.

- How is the overall work culture at KCO Bangalore including the efficiency of team system

-How are the partners to work with? How approachable and supportive are they in terms of mentoring and career growth?

Hiring is not an exact science. Very demand-supply dependant. The fact that some intern got hired or did not, beyond a point, is about right place right time. This is not to say that the person hired is less talented; everyone who gets in is definitely talented. In sight = in mind.

Eg - stellar intern but no vacancy - versus good intern, lets along with others, has the partner's eye, and who was in the team when a vacancy popped up. Latter more likely to be hired.

NLSIU has put out a call for applications for Assistant Professors (https://www.nls.ac.in/news-events/call-for-applications-assistant-professors-one-year-contract/). I was thinking of applying and was wondering how it is to work there, assuming I get selected.

Kindly guide.

4 corporate partners in Bangalore and in one common team. Srinath leads corporate practice and is head of Bangalore office. Strong office with long standing partners. Really high quality work and clients, mostly M&A, VC and PE transactions. Most hiring is through PPO after two internships or lateral, so difficult to get into.

He has not changed citizenship. It's RW propaganda because they know they don't have capability to proof his videos wrong. They can only do trolls, citizen, wife, picked older video, anti hindu, Anti-national.

They know his video are right they can counters on the basis of logic, facts , video, image etc

OP here - honestly this is public information, easily accessible through platforms like LinkedIn or via connections with those who have interned at these firms. While it is true that access to such details might be more streamlined for students from certain law schools, I believe that as a community, we can work to reduce this information gap. Also, at the end of the day, its not like these HRs cut any slack for law students (personal experience).

When is the right time to consider an alternative career path? I am in my final year and have devoted more than two years to Competition Law, but I haven't been able to secure any recruitment opportunities in this field. I am passionate about this practice area, but the lack of job opportunities is extremely demotivating, and I doubt whether all my experiences in Competition Law will benefit me for recruitment purposes. Also, please suggest some potential career paths I could explore. Thanks.

I had saved and invested a sizeable sum at the end of covid. Post covid, I ended up going back to work and the uncontrollable expenses caught up. Car, fancy house, devices, vacations et al

A breakup and sabbatical later, feel that was so stupid. I could have had strong liquidity in savings had I just not touched any of my investments at the end of 2022. It’s heartbreaking - that was enough to be free and not work for money.

Whoever is reading this, don’t touch your savings till they are enough to make you not earn for money. And after you reach that point - still don’t touch - the purpose of it is comfort: just forget about it.

JFA Sum - Forget about it.

What are you exactly talking about (choose one):

Multiple partners exiting from different teams?

Silent firing of Associates/SAs?

Toxic work culture?

Shouting at and lack of dignified treatment of associates?

Differential pay and treatment basis the law school and previous firm?

Silent quitting by associates due to toxicity?

They don't have vacancies in dec, you can definitely mail the HR for Feb/March. You'll get a reply id you've drafted your cv well and aligned ur CV properly, their HR is very agile and active recently, but if you still don't get a reply, consider getting more internships/experience in your field

Civil Lines, Delhi is the new preferred address. It's within 30 minutes from Max Towers or even the courts (20 mins) and the rents are super affordable (for 2-3BHK Apartments). Check out - Mukund Apartments, Oberoi Apartments, Sangam Apartments, and Ganpati Apartments: 30-70K. Max to max 1.5 for something very luxurious. There are lots of PG’s for working women and men too - which are even more affordable. Lots of new places have opened in the area and the nightlife is decent. This address has many tier 1 address perks without break the bank rentals

Two errors - the entire R G Kar case in SC itself in Suo Motu. There is no restriction as Arghya seems to claim (haven't read the article but sharing view basis above comment) and second is - won't medical professionals come under Essential Services, which is governed under ESMA and so legal issue arises.

While there is no doubt that lot of good people have left NDA, but I think its good that some of not so good people have also left. NDA is staring at abyss and has to take a decision whether they want to be relevant or not. NMD kids have also apparently started spending time at the firm as well so that will be interesting to see as well.

The reality of being in the second chair is that you simply don’t receive the same recognition as the lead. The crux of the issue is access—it’s a finite resource, and one must capitalize on it the moment it becomes available. Her accomplishments, coupled with the access she enjoyed at the time, put seniority within her grasp, and quite sensibly, she seized that moment and donned the silk gown. Perhaps it happened too soon—earlier than others from her alma mater, and perhaps even before she was regularly being briefed by AoRs. to Now, how does a senior in this position navigate today's professional landscape? It’s a common dilemma...

Here's the reality: designated seniors in her position/ like her often take on “higher roles” that traditionally belong to AoRs—litigation strategy, drafting, and occasionally even briefing, relegating the AoR to registry work! Sure, many of them are encouraged to add value with their own inputs, if they can/ have the time! The market is over-flooded with SC AoRs, competent and otherwise, all vying to build a volume filing practice because that’s only way one can make the kind of money that's needed to keep the lights on. Many will file anything handed to them by the briefing lawyer just to maintain that working relationship, hoping for more business. There is, of course, a growing number of AoRs who take their roles more seriously, particularly as the Supreme Court has cracked down on those who don’t even know what’s in their briefs, let alone show up in court. But this shift is being slowed/ counterbalanced by seniors like her/ in her situation—who often won’t pay more than the token AoR fee for drafting and filing. Many, like her, have spouses or partners (sometimes even retainers) keeping the AoR work in-house, and the result is what you see in the courtroom today is the emergence of a Periodic Table of Counsel- an unofficial hierarchy, roles seemingly anointed rather than earned. This is how it has been at the SC for quite a while. It is why our brightest and best are lost to foreign law firms, corporate law and the likes. There's no real intent to correct this either.

Hi, I joined a tier 3 boutique firm in Chennai working in PE and VC deals. I am not assigned any work and the partner is very toxic. It's been only 2 months since I joined. Can I get another job or is it too late, do I have to stay here for another year before quitting?

Please do tell me if it's looked down upon to quit so early.

Let us make this short, sweet and simple:

1. JSA - Sushant Lok 1, Sector 43, Gurgaon;

2. Induslaw - Dlf Cyberpark (YAA, the NEW SHINY BUILDING) in Udyog Vihar, Gurgaon;

3. LKS - Ambience Island, Sector 25, Gurgaon;

4. Kocchar - Ocus Technopolis, Sector 54, bang on the Golf Course Road;

5. Trilegal - DLF Cyberpark, Udyog Vihar, Gurgaon;

6. SAM Gurgaon office - DLF Phase 2, Heritage City, Gurgaon; and

7. Desai Diwanji - Dlf Epitome building, Cybercity, Gurgaon.

Guys, please do the honours and help a kid out. Please let us know of other corporate firms in Gurgaon.

I mean I agree with the fact that NLIU is back but to be fair your comment, "including NRIs" was nothing short of demeaning. Most NRI students fare well than General students in terms of placements and batch ranks. Before making such a classification, you need to understand that you are basing your assumption on something as irrelevant as CLAT.

NLIU has had lovely placements since its very inception. As for the 2023 batch, out of 72 students appearing, there were 64 placed and I think this is the best across NLUs. As of now for the 2025 batch, out of 67 students who were in the pool, there were 16 PPOs and 31 people got placed during day zero. For the rest, there are more than 10 firms who come for rolling placements, for example, Jio hired 4 last year, Varahe hired 6 and even S&A hired 4. So whilst most NLUs are struggling to get half their batch placed, NLIU may cross the 90% threshold this year.

You clearly aren't looking hard enough. I have changed 3 houses over the past 12 months, and all in South Delhi. Never had a problem, always got a great, decently furnished house in a reasonable budget. Sure, after working I had to spend several Saturdays looking at homes but honestly if you aren't even willing to put in that much effort, nobody can help you

Your failure to find a decent house sounds like a you problem. Plenty of great properties in delhi even now, although understandably the number is fewer than, say, five years ago.

I graduated from a tier 1 NLU eight years ago and turned 30 last month. Over the past 6.5 years, I’ve worked in different practice areas—3 yrs in one, 2.5 in another, and about 9 months as in-house counsel. I also prepared for the UPSC but wasn’t able to clear the mains, though I did pass the prelims twice.

Last Sept, I went through a difficult breakup, and I’m still working through it with therapy and medication. On top of that, my parents keep pressuring me to get married, which only adds to the stress.

I had always thought that if neither law firms nor in-house roles worked out, or if the UPSC didn’t pan out, I’d write the MP Judiciary exam and settle my career uncertainty (seemed doable to me). But with the recent changes in MP Judiciary’s eligibility criteria, I no longer qualify as I don’t have 70% marks or 3 years of continuous practice. While I could attempt MPPSC Civil Services, the timing and results are too unpredictable.

Now, I’ve reached a point where I’m exhausted from making decisions. The only thing I’m certain of is that I want to be in government service- not because I don’t want to work, but because I want to step out of this endless cycle of applying for jobs, chasing increments, promotions, and so on. I no longer want to be in a constant race. Considering how things work in India, I also want to have some level of power to support myself and my family. Over the past 4 years, I’ve seen how, without some form of authority, people can easily be taken advantage of.

It feels like I haven’t made a single decision that’s truly worked out for me. Right now, I’m looking at these options:

1. UPSC 2025 – Give it one more shot.

2. MPPSC 2025 – I’ve attempted it before and missed the prelims cutoff by just 2 marks (one question). I did this based on my upsc prep and spending about 10 days on MP-specific topics.

3. I love Gurgaon for some reason, so I could write HPSC 2025, though I’d need to focus on Haryana-specific content.

4. Judicial Service Exams- Since MP is no longer an option, I could aim for Delhi or Haryana Judiciary.

Alternatively, I could let go of the idea of government service and:

5. Get a law firm job.

6. Find an in-house counsel role.

Please be kind.

I recommend you not to intern at Touchstone Partners, the internship experience for me has been bad, no good work, the associates are unapproachable and they are not willing to even clarify doubts or guide you. If you have any other opportunity please take that up and drop this. It is not worth investing 1 month on this firm.

Those of you who have no idea about alcohol and are thinking that it will look fine if you ask fir water —- I hope you realise that there is a class hierarchy even in the brand of water you order. You will be judged on the basis too. Perrier and Evian will make you look civilised, Bisleri and Kinley will make you look like a savage.

Once you mix among high-flying lawyers and corporates, you are judged on the basis of EVERYTHING you do.

Please see this video. A statement from the doctors has openly condemned Kapil Sibal and other lawyers representing the West Bengal government in the Supreme Court. They have accused them of lying before the court.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1qEJLSiUaWQ&pp=ygUfUmcga2FyIGRvY3RvcnMgcHJlc3MgY29uZmVyZW5jZQ%3D%3D

It must also be mentioned that advocate Kaustav Bagchi was accused by Sibal of throwing stones at the police and then DYC scolded Bagchi. But Bagchi did no such thing and he too has accused Sibal of lying. He has challenged Sibal to produce the video footage where Sibal claims Bagchi is seen throwing stones.

https://x.com/koustavcp/status/1833162345004036242

It’s very unfortunate that DYC is giving Sibal a disproportionate amount of time, and not giving Bikash Bhattacharya and Karuna Nundy any time, despite them being Senior Advocates. The only saving grace has been Justice Pardiwala asking Sibal tough questions, and Phiroze Edulji interrupting Sibal and pointing out signs of a massive coverup.

I don’t think DYC knows just how unpopular he is among people in Bengal right now. The feeling universally is that DYC should not have butted in and taken up this case, sou moto and instead left it to the Calcutta High Court. The Calcutta High Court has repeatedly been hauling up to TMC for corruption, only to have the Supreme Court stay its orders.

Hey. I sympathise with you.

Unfortunately the “dream job” we are sold is not really a dream, and even during internships we don’t understand the full picture.

Please try to apply for in-house roles or boutique firms. See if there are any folks from your college working there, or if some senior from your law firm shifted in house. Try reaching out to them.