Hi, I have an internship lined up with Juris Corp in June. Can anyone tell me what the hiring scenario is? I am from a non-NLU and interning at a firm with a strong NLU bias, so I am barely getting work after repeated attempts to ask for it. Currently very disheartened. Asking for help please, as I don't see a chance of getting a callback here.

“Elon Musk is not here. He is in the US," he said. “We Indians are here. He cannot produce what Mahindra can do, what Tata can do – it’s not possible. He can do (it) under Trump’s shadow, in the US. He’s super smart, no question about it. He’s a maverick, doing spacecraft and all that. He’s done amazing work, so I don’t want to take anything from him. But to be successful in India is not an easy job," Jindal said.

https://www.news18.com/business/elon-musk-cant-be-successful-in-india-says-sajjan-jindal-as-he-bats-for-tatas-and-mahindra-ws-bd-9251616.html

Depends on the team honestly. If you are interested try figuring out which Partner/s you would be working with and if you want you work with them. But it’s difficult to figure how a work relationship might turn out from a distance, so it’s okay to try and experiment. No judgements on yourself

While I work in corp team and may not know nitty gritties of disputes, I just have a different suggestion. Lot of courts don't have good talent and have people practicing basis more jugaad and strictly not by law. To that extent, considering the stuff you have already done and seem to be motivated, you can also consider sticking around and can create your own brand and clientele!

Lets not even discuss younger ones if you all cant tolerate new gen coming in but here you go:YPAKR

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They all are good respectable faculty. 3-4 leaving is normal for any place. And glorifying one or two faculty of one or two subjects is stupid. New people will come in. They learn and grow. Faculty members are not elected representatives. Some may just want to teach. Some may be good in research. Some good at marketing themselves. Some good at all. Same like in law firms or any other job. Dont make it more than that.

This post is nothing but an agenda to malign people who are just doing their work. The institution went through a difficult last semester putting a lot of emotional burden on our teachers. Dont bully teachers.

LI is requested to close this thread.

In case anyone here has doubts, I am happy to provide the latest receipts for the same. Consider this recent event of political indoctrination at IITD << https://hss.iitd.ac.in/event/architectures-inequality-social-aesthetic-and-philosophical-perspectives >>. Just observe the kind of “perspectives” being shared and normalised: “The Case for Dalit Reparations”? Check. “Pax Brahminica”? Check. Nothing to do with actual academic research, of course. Pure instance of hate speech being openly and proudly done (and justified as social justice) in the national capital. The entire event was completely homogeneous and riddled with the hateful dichotomy of oppressor-oppressed. There was no actual diversity of thought. Events like these are motivated by reasons of ideology and partisanship while being disguised in the word salad of social justice. By the way, this is the same IITD which also has an Office of Diversity and Inclusion, another opaque and powerful body that has been recently created to further contribute towards balkanisation of the student society at the institute.

Now look at NLSIU where recently one of their teachers who is also doing their PhD tries to normalise and justify the real fact of discrimination as practised by the Indian state on the basis of caste as some kind of perverse justice through his so-called “moral reading” << https://www.nls.ac.in/news-events/faculty-seminar-presentations-by-sidharth-chauhan-and-rahul-hemrajani/ >>. Consider his own words here: “This dissertation argues that these special provisions [relating to electoral reservation on the basis of caste] for enabling the political representation of historically marginalised communities should not be narrowly viewed as methods for redistributing material resources . . . With respect to explanations for democratic authority, the key idea is that electoral quotas incrementally contribute to ‘recognitional legitimacy’, a concept that transcends the immediate pursuit of political integration and the pragmatic accommodation of group differences.”

Please see through the abstraction of language and concepts here to observe the real argument: that India is not a nation of individual citizens with inalienable rights but a community of communities engaged in the process of bartering interests. Everything is relative. No inherent values exist that Indians share with each other. They are all mutual enemies of each other and tied in delicate balance. For the author, in the name of “recognitional legitimacy”, it is perfectly reasonable to discriminate against people by calling them and their forefathers oppressors! And, of course, what is “pragmatic accomodation” if not a happy declaration that not only is India not a nation but that the only way to govern it is by managing groups and communities in their respective ghetto-like existence.

And then we wonder why our institutions do not stand for our fundamental rights. How can they when they are already committed to an ideological project that is anti-individual and sees Indians as not a people but a bunch of groups who can only interact with other in a zero-sum game.

This is my sincere case. I am happy to be corrected.

Hi. First and foremost, relax. Take a deep breath. Have a nice, cool glass of water. Don’t worry. You will have plenty of moments like these in your future as well. But you will also have nicer moments. Remember, this too shall pass. Now, since you mentioned your interest in both the law and in humanities, you may consider applying to BA (Hons.) at NLSIU. It is a new programme but it does appear to be well-designed. I think you will enjoy it and will surely develop new interests and capabilities. Give it a try. You can still do LLB (Hons.) afterwards at NLSIU (they have reserved 10% of the seats for their BA students). Alternately, you can also prepare for CUET-UG and try getting in a good social science programme in a university like DU. Feel free to reply to this comment in case you have any further doubts. Happy to help. And all the very best. Once again, don't punish yourself. Get a good night's sleep and try to define your next step. What has happened has happened. What is yet to happen is still within your reach.

I am a student at a private law uni. Due to a desperate situation with our placements, I applied to all manner of places and have now been offered a business consultancy-risk role with a big 4 firm. What is the scope of growth here? What is the work like. And most importantly should I take it up

Dear Beta, why will I look at any one else’s profile or have any comment to offer on what another partner does? When you reach my age, you realise comparisons are meaningless and pointless. I know who I am and I love who I am. And fortunately, so do my family, clients and society. Consider my words as priceless advice you would not ordinarily hear. All the best.

Dear Beta, you seem totally unaware of the realities of our profession. In two months, my firm receives 10,000 applications for internships. I receive roughly half that in the same time period for Associateship. Many many of those who apply are bright and hardworking. The ones I recruit are serious and committed to their work and display zeal to work hard whenever required.

Hence, your assumption that the rest of your generation is “with you” is unfounded. In fact, your buddies must be telling you “ya bro, screw the overlords”, but in reality, they will be working like beasts and ensuring they secure their future. Don’t get left behind beta. With your attitude, you just might. All the best.

On the question of government intervention, Karnataka is so much worse. They practically threatened to destroy NLSIU until the university had to finally give in and create horizontal reservation on the basis of domicile. This happened despite NLSIU initially proving their case in the High Court that they are immune from following state policy on reservation. At some point NLSIU finally realised that this is India where even when you win against the government, the government will still find newer and unscrupulous ways to bleed you to death.

In my experience of how a tier 1 functions, working till very late 3-4 days a week should be acceptable upto PA level. One has to do billable work of at-least 40-50 hours per week. And I don’t mean inflated hours or hours involving only proof reading or research or coordination. But if counsels and junior partners themselves are staying back till very late (1 am and 3 am) and coming to office at noon or at lunch almost every day, then there is something very wrong with these teams. Unless these individuals are working on some newspaper deal, how are they justifying the billable hours to their clients? Are their clients paying for all the excessive partner/counsel hours?

Pick a hobby, make deeper connections at work, try not to do WFH (remember how people got burnt out during pandemic as WFH has no human interactions), plan your vacations in advance. Introspect if you’re really enjoying what you’re working on and if not, think about another area of law that really interests you.

After 2-3 all nighters, I passed out and missed a negotiation call I was supposed to lead. People kept calling me but I slept through. When I got up and realised what had happened, I told the Partner and he advised me to take it easy and rest out.

Therefore, if this happened because you were genuinely sleep deprived, be honest and your seniors will understand but if this is one of those bouts of bratty behaviour, they won’t.

I’d say do it. Being a first year as a 20 year olf is really not bad. Nobody cares literally. I didnt have faith in myself and didn’t take clat again, and that is single handedly the worst decision of my life. Take a year, do you best. 1 year is nothing in the larger scheme of things. T1 NLUs are absolutely worth it.

I have interacted with many students from both the universities. I don't think some of them are receiving more 'quality education' than others. The quality of students was more or less similar. The only difference seemed to be that NLUD students appeared more informal and relaxed, while NLUJ students tended to be more formal and polite. However, I don't wish to generalise on the basis of that.

My advice:

1. Print this post and keep it in a sealed envelope, titled "Open again in 2040".

2. Do an MBA.

3. Become an investment banker or open a startup.

4. Become a millionaire. Buy a flat in NY, London or Dubai. Mary a supermodel.

5. In 2040, open the envelope and laugh your ass off.

I was mocking you because there was nothing in my original comment that should have given you a reason to not understand what I was saying. But then I felt bad about it and again tried to explain in another comment what I had already stated before. You can see that too. Rest is up to you. All the best.

NDA revenue in 2023 was around 125 crores for a total head count of hardly 70. 2024 has seen massive hit on the revenues with the high performing teams exiting to a large extent (TMT and Employment). Even then it will still have 1.5-1.7 cr per fee earner which is quite great. It’s just that the distribution of revenue into the pockets of fee earners suck big time with NMD taking a chunk of it

Please avoid using Firm sponsored therapists. Confidentiality would be a big issue. You could perhaps go to them with issues you want to highlight to the management , but are being unable to. Just in case it does reach the management, good for you. Please do not talk to them about your actual issues.

Functional chairs take time. Anup was funded exhorbitantly by rs and so could build its team and grow gradually. Other centres apply for funding, it takes time. Research isnt one year two year work. Govt processes take time. Some people got advantage and are being appreciated as heros now. If you will see how they were hired, this whole post will become redundant. But time takes away stories. Plz wait and watch who is being hired at NLSIU 😂

I feel like shit, man—literally shit. I don't even want to think about the future. I am the problem, man. I am an idiot.

I took a drop after 12th, was a PCM eat,I became super interested in subjects of law and humanities. Gave CLAT, fumbled it. Spent time on a whole wrong question set, made some silly mistakes, became nervous because I am shit as a student and as a human.

Couldn't get into my dream college. Wanted to be in Nliu or NALSAR so bad, wanted to experience a whole-ass college life at one of these. Now my rank is 200x. Most of the NLUs I am getting are tier 3, IPU, or some tier 2 which have EWS reservation. Man, I am so frustrated. No friends around in my city, most of them went to some third-grade—I mean, yes—colleges in Indore and Bhopal.Maybe I deserve this frustration. As my mocks were going, I imagined getting a rank around 1,000s. The idea of getting into whatever college I have and then rewriting this exam is crossing my mind again and again. Also, there's the fear that I may not succeed again. And if I do, I will be entering uni at the age of 20.Just wanted to rant, to tell people what's going on in my mind—that's all.

The college is doomed. The alumni that it boasts proudly are either self-made or has inherited the family offices. One CAM sr partner told me that - "even though the founding partner of this firm are from GLC, it is not the GLC that made them what they are but their own hardwork and background. You should have reconsidered your decision to join the institute."

This institute once held prestigious Palkhivala Tax Moot. But lost the trust to MNLU after its emergence. This institute once had participants from Oxford and Harvard for participation. But now limited to national colleges. It once had foreign student exchange. Now? When I type GLC into Google, first search comes of a Mercedes car. This is the importance and stature of 150 year old college. Location and behold the trojan horse. Hollow from inside.

Hello people,

I am relocating to Delhi. So looking for anyone to hire me whoever has a vacancy. Preferably an AOR in SC. I want to practise in Delhi High Court and Supreme Court.

I am currently in under a senior advocate in Jharkhand High Court.

My current pay is 30k + Whatever I get from personal cases.

I graduated last year and have been practicing at JHC since 8 months.

If someone is looking for a junior assosciate I am happy to share my resume.

Please help me guys.

KCO provides a lot of other facilities to its lawyers too - cab facility after 9 pm, free online doctor consultation, etc but I have never seen any of my colleagues availing these facilities

Although it hasn’t been more than a couple of years since I joined KCO but I sense a very different calming vibe here… there is a very good synergy between the firm and the lawyers- evident from the fact that lawyers aren’t using the services free for tgem

I understand your concern, and you are well aware of your priorities. I worked at a Tier 2 boutique law firm for two years and felt the same. At the time, I had multiple offers from Tier 1 firms as well as in-house roles. I took time to reflect and created a checklist of my priorities. Tier 1 firms offered significantly higher pay, including tax exemptions, with a difference of over ₹8 lakh. However, after reviewing my priorities for a week, I realized that my true calling was an in-house role at a startup. No matter what, life at a Tier 1 firm would remain intense—that's the nature of the job. I trusted my instincts, and five years later, I have a balanced lifestyle that allows me time for my interests and family.

Since my company operates at the intersection of multiple regulatory areas, such as finance and e-commerce, there have been periods of intense work, sometimes requiring me to cancel planned leaves. However, for the most part, I have control over my time. Financially, I’m doing better than some of my friends at Tier 1 firms. If the nature of work at a Tier 1 firm isn’t aligned with your priorities, it’s worth considering a different workplace. One of the best things about a legal career is the flexibility to explore various roles—in-house, law firms, research organizations, and more. Therapy also played a significant role in helping me decide what was right for me.

Hey everyone! So I have just begun my internship at a boutique firm in Mumbai known for M&A work. To give some context, I am from one of the top T-2 Nlu and my other co-interns are from well known private unis (not Jgls). It's been some days since the start of internship and I don't know for what reasons, I am not being allotted any work since the start let alone quality work. I have asked from my associates multiple times for assisting them from my end as well. However, my co-interns are readily being handed down work by these associates, though that too isn't much.

I have begun to think that since almost all of them are Non-Nlu people they might be biased against me for their personal reasons. I am not sure if this is really true or just my hunch. I am hoping to find some really genuine advice to get out of this situation and perspectives from people here.

Ps - I had readily introduced myself to all associates however there was no such initiative from my co-interns. Secondly, I am in my penultimate year and the others are in their final year.

The term assessment intern used by them is misleading. Saw an intern who had been there for 5 months in a hybrid role with no guarantee that he/she will be absorbed. Additionally, many assessment interns don’t show up on their first day, and we all know why. You will be assigned to team where you have no prior experience, so sending them your CV and video won't help, as they don’t even review them and assign you team on their own whim. Wasted a month there, and I can’t even include it on my CV because it negatively impacts my GC/transanctions consistency. Just imagine me trying to explain in an interview why I interned in this team which i am not even interested or am gonna pursue in future. TIP- better leave asap, save yourself time by doing assessment somewhere else

Why did the faculty like Dr. Anindita Jaiswal or Sarasu leave NLS? Even if it is lien. Many younger ones joined and left since he took over. Why is the faculty discontent in NLSIU can someone explain?

I want to know because the conversation in this post seems to make Sudhir the God of all VCs and legal education system must adhere to what he says. If something like Sudhir is done in NLUD, would ANY exisitng faculty remain here? Would the Delhi Government behave same as the Govt there in Karnataka? What am I missing?

Arrange a protest to get her to work with the student body? ▮▮▮ She has transferred a senior Professor , made another one leave, and another senior professor says she just stays of her way.

What do you think will happen to us if we protest? These professors that she has gone after are experienced in their fields and leaving GLC won't cause them much harm, but us? If she comes after us, our entire career will be in jeopardy.

That's middle school logic. If you did go to the best institutions in the world, you would know that not all the teachers are good at 'conveying knowledge'. Adult students make their own efforts instead of sitting and waiting for spoonfeeding. There are good teachers, there are teachers who will improve but a mature student will find ways to learn from all of them.

Literally, law school is the place for theory. A student may be too interested in acquiring skills to be interested in getting an education. Being a professor is not a 'public role'. These people didn't run for election. They are just offering a service to people who don't respect them or their privacy. The problem with this website is that it allows people who know nothing about education to come and hold forth about it.

Young person - there are no guarantees for anything. Your career is in your hands, so feel free to work hard and try and make something of it, or go chill and see where that takes you. Your call entirely.

My problem with your post is that you assume that someone saying that hard work is necessary equates to toxicity. It does not.

There are many of us 'oldies' who have worked really hard for 20+ years, and this has involved many instances of cancelled plans at the last minute, missing out on parties and birthdays and other fun events, sometimes letting down our loved ones, seeing acquaintances drift away, bouts of anxiety and depressive behaviour, and many other 'sacrifices'. We are also very aware that we would not have been able to get to where we are now without this hard work. In many fields (including law), if you want to be successful professionally, this will be the price.

You can choose that this is not what you want, that you want to prioritize personal time, and that is ok.

Do also be aware that, by the time people turn 35 or 40, professional achievements (and consequently, financial position and ability to provide for the family, send the kids to good schools, go on family holidays, have a nice house) tend to mean more to many people than having attended a few additional concerts or seen many movies or hung out with buddies. It's just that this occurs much later, and right now you will not be able to visualise this stage of your life. Again, this is just a perspective and the ultimate decision on how you want to work and live your life is yours. Just stop thinking that hard work is toxic.

Then you should work at a senior advocates office or a busy chamber. Then you will understand what urgency means. Problem is thinking too high of oneself. Seriously dude, litigation is a tough practice area. You seriously don't even have an idea how a busy chamber works. Idk if you are aware, most senior advocates wake up early in the morning and work till late night. Their chamber work accordingly. Their juniors work accordingly. So is it toxic, slavery and what not? Either you don't even practice litigation or are just being an ostrich.