You keep trying to pass the incident off as an attempt to physically harm Sudhir. Do you even understand the meaning of bursting crackers in an empty room? Clearly you don't, so you're not even qualified to have a logical conversation. None of the parties involved on either tried to harm anyone physically. Instead, in course of your arguments, you have shifted the goalpost from Sudhir the teacher per excellence, to Sudhir the teacher who didn't physically harm anyone. Amazing shift of standards, but then, nothing else is expected of Sudhir fanboys here.

Heard recently that in house counsels with 5-6 pqe from NLS and other top law schools are making more than 60 lakh per annum in Bengaluru. A lot of people from tier 1 have made the switch to in house roles as it offers better work life balance also. Some of them were boasting that they barely work for 3-4 hours daily and still get a fat monthly paycheck. Is it really true? Then why don't more people from tier 1 make the switch to in house roles? Is it true that their career will plateau in house roles and they will get better returns in law firms in the long run?

^The question: such jobs primarily would require fewer working hours so that more time is left outside of the job to figure things out; pay of course would equally be cut but still, should be able to minimally sustain.

Law firms are not the way to it - I am wondering if there are any other jobs. Kindly suggest

Rebuttal is merited for actual reports released, not anonymous claims. Moreover, why on earth would we want to challenge GNLU students getting jobs? They aren't taking away ours. Good for them if their numbers support their claim and they keep getting more and more jobs. Stop trying to bait people to indulge in petty and juvenile bickering. They will actually be our colleagues pretty soon right after we all graduate.

You made a correct decision here, but don’t be deceived by LegallyIndia comments. Many of them are Noojies and I say this with all seriousness because any thread with the mention of NUJS gets a lot of comments to make it seem like the college is the best or something. NUJS is not a bad place but it’s no longer a top 3. While it is still ahead of GNLU, looking to the future, it may not be as solid. Did you know or did the Noojies here mention that NUJS is increasing its batch size to 180 this year with a new BSc LLB? That will make placements and other opportunities even more tricky. GNLU also has around the same number of kids and could improve in times to come but they have shown they can handle a large batch size thanks to their infrastructure and funding support. But I agree that you should prefer NUJS over it and retake the CLAT.

Exactly. NLS folks are this daft to think that this all some goodwill charity? How do you think he’s hiring all those faculty? It’s the massive fees and batch size increase plus the fact that they are obviously being paid above UGC scales considering many of them have left other NLUs who are similarly placed. And who knows how long these scholarship schemes will continue for once Messiah leaves. But the batch size and domicile quota can never be reversed.

Useless advice. The guy already said he wants to focus on law for the time being. What is it with people like you who constantly talk about doing MBA. It’s not any easier to get into or do well at a top MBA school as compared to a top law school. But maybe you’re just jealous since you couldn’t hack it.

Hi fellow clat retaker here. Until today (along with my own independent research) I thought hnlu Raipur is better than mnlu Mumbai. But today Legaledge’s preference for clat takers (which is barely 5 months away) has kept mnlu Mumbai above hnlu raipur. The coaching is in the business for a long time and infact many people have made decisions based on this list. Will it be reliable enough?

For context they have kept the list as :-

7. Mumbai

8. Raipur

9. Lucknow

10. Odisha

11. Patiala

12. Kochi

Is this order correct?

NFSU becomes the first academic institution in the country whose reports will be submissible in courts.

https://www.ahmedabadmirror.com/nfsu-reports-get-legal-sanctity/81856624.html

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Only North India best for law practice.

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Chennai economy

Chennai is a very underrated commercial market. It houses most of India's physical foriegn investment in the form of Automotive manufacturing plants and other top industrial parks. It more of a industry Oriented economy. Chennai is also second to Bangalore for its IT industry. Tamil Nadu as such is the most industrialized state, and second to Gujarat in terms of economic growth. With many other tier 2 cities in the form of Coimbatore, Madurai and Trichy and industrial towns like Salem, Erode, Tuticorin, Hosur etc the legal market in Chennai isn't restricted to Chennai alone. It encompasses a wider legal practice encompassing these places too, whether in the form of M&A, disputes etc.

Chennai legal practice Coming to corporate work, the Chennai Bar has traditionally been a top disputes oriented practice for centuries. This is understandable considering that Madras HC is among the 3 oldest Chartered High Courts in India. High stake corporate work for TN/Chennai has been mostly done by Bombay Solicitors for close to a century since Bombay was always the commercial capital of India and that is where the practice of a transactional attorney took shape in india historically. That translates to why the Chennai bar did not have a fledgling corporate practice for a larger part of the 20th century, while it was doing wonders in the disputes practice

However, the scene has been changing in the last 15 years with many corporate lawyers being ex lawyers at several big indian corporate law firms returning to Chennai to either start their boutique practice or starting a local branch for Mumbai/Delhi firms. At present, SAM, CAM, Indus Law, Dua, AZB, Khaitan, ICUL, JSA, Tatva Legal, Kochhar, Fox Mandal have a thriving corporate practice largely due to the positive economic atmosphere in the state that has been regularly attracting a big chunk of foriegn and domestic investment in the state.

Pay

Yes, pay will not match Mumbai because Chennai is obviously a cheaper city to survive. You don't have to pay 40-50k for a 1rk near your office like you have to do in Mumbai. You will be getting a great 1bhk/2bhk for 18-24k near your Chennai law firm offices. Starting salaries in the national law firms will be around 40-50k and other top local law firms like HSB is 35-45k and that grows with pqe. So you will be able to have a decent life with savings as well if you budget properly.

Diversity

Chennai is a metropolitan city with a cosmopolitan culture unlike the general false perception that the City is anti North Indian. There is large population of marwadis, gujjus, Jain's and bora muslims that have settled in Chennai for centuries. The locals aren't hostile unless you criticise/mock the culture and language or CSK (lol). Yes, it is true that the diversity is lesser than Delhi/Mumbai/Bangalore which is largely due to geography and weather and not due to a dearth of employment opportunities. A UP person would prefer Mumbai rather than Chennai similar to his a malayali/tamizhan preferring Chennai over Mumbai.

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CAM has an office there no? Is the pay same?

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Chennai economy

Chennai is a very underrated commercial market. It houses most of India's physical foriegn investment in the form of Automotive manufacturing plants and other top industrial parks. It more of a industry Oriented economy. Chennai is also second to Bangalore for its IT industry. Tamil Nadu as such is the most industrialized state, and second to Gujarat in terms of economic growth. With many other tier 2 cities in the form of Coimbatore, Madurai and Trichy and industrial towns like Salem, Erode, Tuticorin, Hosur etc the legal market in Chennai isn't restricted to Chennai alone. It encompasses a wider legal practice encompassing these places too, whether in the form of M&A, disputes etc.

Chennai legal practice Coming to corporate work, the Chennai Bar has traditionally been a top disputes oriented practice for centuries. This is understandable considering that Madras HC is among the 3 oldest Chartered High Courts in India. High stake corporate work for TN/Chennai has been mostly done by Bombay Solicitors for close to a century since Bombay was always the commercial capital of India and that is where the practice of a transactional attorney took shape in india historically. That translates to why the Chennai bar did not have a fledgling corporate practice for a larger part of the 20th century, while it was doing wonders in the disputes practice

However, the scene has been changing in the last 15 years with many corporate lawyers being ex lawyers at several big indian corporate law firms returning to Chennai to either start their boutique practice or starting a local branch for Mumbai/Delhi firms. At present, SAM, CAM, Indus Law, Dua, AZB, Khaitan, ICUL, JSA, Tatva Legal, Kochhar, Fox Mandal have a thriving corporate practice largely due to the positive economic atmosphere in the state that has been regularly attracting a big chunk of foriegn and domestic investment in the state.

Pay

Yes, pay will not match Mumbai because Chennai is obviously a cheaper city to survive. You don't have to pay 40-50k for a 1rk near your office like you have to do in Mumbai. You will be getting a great 1bhk/2bhk for 18-24k near your Chennai law firm offices. Starting salaries in the national law firms will be around 40-50k and other top local law firms like HSB is 35-45k and that grows with pqe. So you will be able to have a decent life with savings as well if you budget properly.

Diversity

Chennai is a metropolitan city with a cosmopolitan culture unlike the general false perception that the City is anti North Indian. There is large population of marwadis, gujjus, Jain's and bora muslims that have settled in Chennai for centuries. The locals aren't hostile unless you criticise/mock the culture and language or CSK (lol). Yes, it is true that the diversity is lesser than Delhi/Mumbai/Bangalore which is largely due to geography and weather and not due to a dearth of employment opportunities. A UP person would prefer Mumbai rather than Chennai similar to his a malayali/tamizhan preferring Chennai over Mumbai.

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People really upvoting this? I come from a huge family of generational wealth , got Jindal (mind you with a 90 above percentile) , still chose nlsiu by retaking next year.

Hemant Biswa Sarma’s son took a drop year and got NLS.

There are still people who care about excellence with brains and not money.

These maybe are little to no consequences for you - well because you never have to think about excellence , but some of us do. Don’t crush our ambitions with your mediocre mindset. It will be the reason for your fall later on.

Family wealth is temporary , class is permanent.

Reattempting wont hurt. Nujs is also equally good tho. But hey nothing should stop you from reattempting if it’s for nalsar , beacusse that was your target. It’s you who needs to be comfortable , so for your conscience and confidence take nujs and start preparing for clat because Harley 5 months are left. All the best!

Hello everyone,

I'll soon be joining a prestigious law firm in their Capital Markets team. As I prepare for this new chapter in my career, I want to make sure I'm as well-prepared as possible with a strong understanding of the fundamental and intricate aspects of this field.

I would greatly appreciate any guidance on what I should read, learn, or study to familiarize myself with the nuances, laws, and regulations of securities law. Whether it's basic or advanced material, I'm eager to delve into any resources that will enhance my knowledge in this area. If there are specific courses or books that you highly recommend, I would be immensely grateful to receive those suggestions as well.

I'm open to any recommendations, whether they come from your personal experience or authoritative sources.

Thank you all.

i attempted lsat in 2021, and i only attempted the english section of the test seriously. after that, the rest of the paper i completed within 8 minutes, since i just randomly picked the choice. [not] surprisingly, i got into jindal for BALLB (H). however, i joined SLS-P, as it has a decent screening process. No regrets.

I was unable to pay fee in prescribed time due to some financial issues. Now they'are not refunding my confirmation fee, citing it's not refundable. They are forfeiting whole 20,000. I'm not in state to bear legal cost. Please suggest what to do now and if any PIL or any case going on in the similar matter.

Dude, GNLU has crossed NLIU and NLU Jodhpur long back. Except some old blog pages on CLAT preferences, nowadays everyone in the legal circle considers GNLU as one of the fastest growing NLUs, probably the most fastest. The T1 NLUs and their hierarchy at present is;-

NLS- NALSAR-NLUD-NUJS-GNLU-NLUJ.

There are analytics focused courses at B schools which technically don't have a bar on admitting non-STEM folks per se, viz. IIM B PGP (Business Analytics), the PGP in Analytics offered jointly by IIT KGP, ISI Cal and IIM C, plus a couple of analytics focused MBA at other B Schools such as IIFT and MDI. Most of these require a decent CAT or similar aptitude test's percentile, plus it will be a pretty uphill task in itself to convince the interview panel why they should admit a lawyer to a tech-focused PGP. But if you've got the will and can demonstrate why, don't see why a lawyer won't make the cut for these

I just wanted to know some partners, who are decent in terms of mentorship and behaviour. I know these days people think it is obnoxious to expect partners to behave decently in high pressure environments. But, on my part, I just need a partner who doesn't threaten to fire me or curse at me (MC,BC,motherfucker) on every mistake. I know I will be a good resource, but if I have some idea of the market and the people in it, I can make better choices once I have more options. Please mention office (Delhi or Mumbai) with the name of the partner. I am looking for largely delhi based people, and my ultimate aim is to be an arguing counsel, so would love to hear thoughts on who I can join to make it happen.

A tier 1 firm that has recently fallen off the rankings, during my interview, offered me an assessment internship, but it is unpaid. Most people (friends in Tier 1) have told me not to take it. But the exposure seems worth it. My plan is to take the assessment, and then keep giving interviews. If I get in somewhere, I will leave. The pay is between 60k-75k a month.

I am an A0, tier 1 comp law team. My ultimate aim is to become an arguing counsel. Initial plan is that I will leave firms after hitting counsel/PA level, join a senior for a few years and learn. Then, start mhy own arguing practice. Please, help me with my plan. Do not be trollish, just help me see things clearly.

Very alarming. We will never become a prosperous country if this continues. We can never catch up with China.

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/opinion/labour-law-reforms-tamil-nadu-reversing-flexible-work-shifts-is-lost-opportunity-for-business-workers-jobseekers-10523461.html

https://www.deccanherald.com/business/business-news/apple-seeks-india-labour-reform-to-diversify-beyond-china-1202557.html

Yes. He’s not your personal butler. He’s the VC of the university. He’s gonna look after the university. Why is that difficult to understand ? Why is that not obvious. He wasn’t going to let the university fall apart under his watch. The university runs on student fees. Seems pretty simple to me.

He absolutely isn’t a theory focused guy. You’re misinformed. Have you considered that courses like foundations of private law and law and society will entail jurisprudential stuff that is theory ? If you go to a Salman khan movie do you complain about action sequences ? It’s not drafting and pleading or evidence law or banking ffs.

If this is your problem - it’s not hard to surmise that you want an LLM ( an optional degree) without having to read too much. That’s a you problem.

Sudhir doesn’t on his own decide to scrap specialisations nor does he approve courses - all of that is done by committees Sudhir isn’t even a part of. Perhaps they realised they couldn’t support all of those electives with the faculty at the university at the time. This isn’t anything to do with him other than you needing a punching bag.

I have been in Sudhir’s classes for three years- he used data, he teaches cases, he does the Socratic method - pretty much middle of the road law professor.

You’re bullying me by saying I’m bullying you eh ? It’s that Spider-Man meme thing. Quit the DARVO thing honey. The only bullies are folks who tried to physically harm a professor. Literally no one has made the claim that Sudhir had physically hurt anyone at all. A professor being short with you or not babying you or not teaching the way you want is not bullying. It a called living in a world with other people.

It is bullying to constantly, repetitively bully someone on the internet. There is no other word for it. These posts never actually allege misbehaviour - they just make accusations like this person doesn’t have empathy, they are rude, high handed whatever. Hard to disprove and made anonymously over and over and over again to smear a guy who - yeah may have made some mistakes but is far from the worst person in academia .
Do you even know what gaslighting is ? Don’t throw words around you don’t understand.