Have done an internship at a corporate firm - until, this, I only have had heard that corporate honchos are mostly glorified clerk. But this time I actually felt it. I barely had to apply law at the internship.

The thrill and adrenaline of going to the court is way too high for me. I actually get to read and apply, and, at the very least, I am observing people to do so. But, such a magnificent field, has its own barriers - the pay. Unless, I get more than 40K a month, it would be very difficult to survive in Delhi. Bleak chances.

Judiciary is also a great option. The satisfaction of studying everyday seriously for an exam is also great for me. But, it is risky. What if I fail? Then I don't have any backup.

I am thinking of giving litigation a chance, and if I fail or see that the future is bleak, then I will leave law altogether and get an MBA.

Hi there, everyone who has spent enough time on LI has seen content about how hard life can be for A0s at T1. As I understand it, there is a steep learning curve, long hours, and an absence of good communication between the seniors and juniors. The responses to these complaints vary from "quit and find something else" to "stop being entitled and do the hard work"

This question is addressed to SAs, PAs and Partners; what advice would you give to A0s looking to do their best and stick it out at T1s?

I'm from the 2024 batch and I'm genuinely excited to join a T1, albeit slightly nervous because of all the rants I see on LI. I understand that grit is key to succeeding in law firms, and also that this is not for everyone and I respect that, but I'd like to stay on and not burn out in a year (although some people make this sound like an eventuality).

Are the claims about the work life balance and general toxicity of T1s exaggerated? I know that this depends on the firm and the team, but how is it that people across firms and practice areas make this claim?

I'm willing to work hard and keen to prove myself, but I don't want to do this at the cost of my health or sanity. I'd like to get 7 hours of sleep most nights (the occasional exception is completely understandable) and work with nice people.

I understand and acknowledge that A0s know nothing compared to the SAs and Partners who have decades of experience, and that the hierarchy that people sometimes complain about is completely justified (as long as the partners are still kind and have not completely forgotten what it's like to be a junior).

I have a lot of time on my hands this year. What can I do to make the process a little easier for myself next year? Are there skills that I can work on improving now? A few seniors told me to chill all year because I'll never get this kind of time back, seems valid too. Thoughts on this?

What are some things you wish you could say to A0s or your juniors to help them with their performance but you can't because it would be misconstrued?

Thank you so much for taking the time to read this! Really hoping to hear some responses from senior associates and partners

- An optimistic incoming A0 at a T1

https://enewsroom.in/mother-faizan-ahmed-ragging-in-iit-kharagpur-bengal/

This case is now trending after the murder of the JU student, but his case needs more national traction. Unfortunately, the dead student is from a poor Assamese Muslim family who don't have contacts and can't speak English, so the national media is ignoring it!

Both the JU and IIT raggers deserve capital punishment and we need to EXPEL anyone who rags.

Latest development:

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/another-ashoka-professor-pulapre-balakrishnan-quits-over-research-paper-faculty-writes-support-letter-4302608

But remember that OpIndia and similar RW sites have targeted Jindal profs too. There have been multiple cases where RW students secretly recorded "anti-national" lectures by JGLS professors and leaked them online. So why are only Ashoka profs quitting? Is it because:

- The admin at Jindal is more supportive?

- Naveen Jindal's clout?

-Jindal has an "insurance policy" where children of politicians/IAS officers of all hues study on scholarships, so they are safe from raids etc?

- Jindal has a few RW profs too, which gives them immunity?

- Ashoka only offers liberal arts, which is an inherently LW field and more dangerous to the state compared with law?

You guys keep saying you don't care about NLUD but you have a habit of bringing it into every conversation. Even on a thread about a lowly ranked place like NLIU, you keep shouting about NLUD's placements even though no one at NLUD ever claims that the placements there are the best (still better than NLIU, though, tbh). Why the hatred and jealously towards NLUD? Is it because NLUD grads don't actually care for your corporate placements game and the college isn't just some glorified placement hub like some other so-called tier-1 NLUs? Is it because we're the only NLU without a domicile quota now? Or is it because AILET attracts some 20000 aspirants every year for just 100-odd seats? I am really curious to know what the enviousness is really all about. It's not NLUD's fault that you were unable to secure a seat there, but why the shameless smear campaign?

I too had a culture shock when I arrived at my T1 NLU. Imagine an Indian getting a culture shock in India. lolas.

Atleast you got a T1 job. I had everything you got minus the T1. My mistake - I let the self-esteem issues overpower my very existence. I could overcome it only by completely detaching from law, and then coming back to it again using my own power and capacity without the afterglow of my NLU. This is the worst possible advice anyone could give, but that's all I could end up doing.

Law School, 2000s batch

Equity Partner at a Tier 1 firm in Bombay, been at the Corp grind for a while now, slinging it in M&A.

I remember the earliest days of LI when folks would comment under their real names, fond memories.

Glad to see this being revived :)

Having seen various advocates make it as a law student, I will tell you that law firm litigation is nothing and adds nothing to court advocacy. You must start as a novice or beginner in the profession under a senior for several years before you get your own clients. Asking for referrals does not help unless you have very strong relationships with such advocates, or they will refer you all the wrong (stingy or no pay, uncooperative, corrupt, abusive, cunning, double gamer) clients.

Asking as a girl (intern?) recently posted on LI that she slept with a guy at a top firm for a good reco leading to a job. I believe the claim because we see how predatory guys are in law school and how they gaslight junior girls. Why should they change after 2-3 years, when working in office ?

The problem is that girls from wealthy backgrounds don’t need to do such things, but girls facing financial pressure may feel that they have no choice. Which brings me to the other part of the question: how common is it? Will the recent slump in jobs worsen the situation?

CAUTION:- Please DO NOT publish at places where it is "easy" to do so by paying a small sum. They are total scams like the one mentioned below.

Publications add value to research and scholarship, and portray your ability to research and your interest apart from your writing skills. These emanate from the editorial selections by the boards, which are medium to tough depending on the blog/ journal. An EASY blog adds NO VALUE to you nor to scholarship.

Rather than just writing blogs for the sake of it, actually work on it with hardwork. Journals by NLUs apart from NLSIU have moderate standards of selection on various subject.

A blog should take you 3-4 weeks of consistent work for it to add any value. 3 days to arrive at a specific topic. 2 days to strategise the structure and introduction. 1 week only for research and the rest for content and checks. Increase this by a week per stage for journals.

Regards,

::_

What's with the constant bashing of the "small platform"? I understand they aren't big power deals like Zia or the Shroffs and not absolute tier 1s, they are doing decent and at least treating their associates well. Toxicity aside, even a promise of 18-19 LPA with clarity on bonuses based on transparent performance points makes it absolutely attractive and generous, to say the least. Not to forget they don't just hire based on ranks, but also analyse other factors even in Day 0s, and discourage references, and a whooping 16k a month stipend to its interns.

Everyone does. Clients want top tier to negotiate Pay which brings in more complex work. which needs more associates thereby increased hiring, thereby increased intern PPO intake, thereby increased intern intake with stipend and easier call backs, thereby more attractive to students, working professionals, Placecoms and everyone.

NUJS gives extra compensatory attendances for every random talk hosted in campus. Student socities organise 2 hour talks by calling random guests and then give attendance to 100+ people even if only 50 attended the event. No vetting mechanism exists.

For cultural fest alone, 10 attendances were given.

At NUJS, students with 10% attendance have been allowed to write exams for last 4 years. There are students who didn't attend a single class but have still got 70% attendance certificate. Last year, when university was enforcing 65% attendance, students protested and added extra attendances and even those who got debarred in more than 2 subjects didn't face any consequence of year as per regulations. Despite such leniency, students still want a no attendance policy. Shameful.

In NUJS, a zero ragging policy has been adopted by NKC. 2018 was the last year when any sort of ragging happened. Now NUJS can come to such situation where juniors don't even respect seniors and call out them in whatsApp group of Campus community without any salutation. It's both good and bad that nowadays no senior-junior hierarchy exists at NUJS

Interpretation of one shloka of GEETA by Bomb creator but wrongly quoted by this theorical physicist. " I think ; therefore I am " Descartes over emphasised on mind . "Life is real only then, "I am "."- Gurdjieff emphasised on unreal human beings on this earth ( the process of self lying nature of human being imprisoned by conditioning of society,culture ,structural religion,own conclusions and ideas and madhouse in the name of professionalism by multi faced creature on this earth ) .

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/uniform-civil-code-needed-to-decolonise-indian-family-law/articleshow/102784639.cms

One author is an NLSIU grad and the other is an NLUJ grad. It’s not clear if this is the official Vidhi position (which would have caused a big storm) but I didn’t see any explicit disclaimer saying that it wasn’t (which too is going to stir some controversy). In any case, articles by members of a think tank generally tend to an echo the sentiments of the think tank itself.

There are several reasons why the article is surprising:

- Explicitly supporting something so politically controversial and divisive at a time the BJP is pushing for it.

- Breaks the “liberal consensus” in the NLU fraternity. It’s now ok for NLU grads to lean right.

- Using the left-wing jargon of “decolonisation” to support an idea mooted by the right (J Sai Deepak does exactly this)

Summary: India was already 8th largest economy under Nehru, in 1960. So being 5th largest economy is no big deal. Real issues are India's rankings in:

- Hunger: 107/121

- Gender gap: 127/146

- Economic freedom: 131/176

- Corruption: 86/107

- Intellectual property: 42/55

Unless we improve our rankings in these indices we will never be a superpower. Look at economic freedom: our system is just designed to benefit a few crony capitalists like the Ambanis, Adanis and even the Shroffs. Look at corruption: Not a thing moves here without brining politicians. Look at intellectual property: we don't create original technology and other stuff, we just copy and clone.

https://www.livemint.com/videos/indias-economy-as-third-largest-just-a-guarantee-of-the-inevitable-mint-primer-mint-11691999496157.html

Lol, S&R and TTA which recruit from all the tier-1s don’t come to NLIU, as a comment above already stated. And it’s funny how NLIU trolls with some extra 5-10 people placed are feigning placement superiority when their batch itself has 40 more people than NLUD.

And this year, NALSAR and even NLS had low placements, literally less than NLIU’s day zero number-wise. Does that mean NLIU is better? And NLUD has had batches where 4 different individuals have got TCs (and on average 2-3 get it every year) and with 100% people placements. Check the archives of this very site. NLIU doesn’t hold a candle to us.

Here, have an upvote! But please don't take it personally, the internet can be a cruel space, and only getting 2 downvotes is not very much at all :) They may both have slipped with their mouse, or maybe two people out of pinciple downvote anything that gets the featured tag, etc :)

Hi, good to hear from you - 2014 was waaay back! :)

Don't be sad, nothing lasts forever but glad LI was there and useful and impactful in its previous avatar, while it was, and hope the current avatar is also and will continue to be helpful and fun for people.

Neither magic circle, nor publishing business: have gone to do something completely unrelated for a while :)

Cautiously, we're pleased to announce that the up and downvoting bug may actually be fixed... So you should now be able to like and dislike posts anonymously without running into the infamous Error 9. Fingers crossed - please let us know if you encounter any issues.

The downside is that this won't please conspiracy theorists who thought the algorithm was biased against them personally :)

I think it's important to have men talk about married life and kids to an extent. Organisations used to be male dominated and the men would look down on women who would talk about their husband or kids, instead of discussing golf and whisky. It makes the work environment a little more inclusive. Women no longer have to "like men" to sit at the same table.

A fair review: (1) good work flow; (2) learning curve is high, try working directly under Manmeet; (3) since work flow is high, you need to show dedication 24x7 and be available; (4) like every place, there will be certain issues, share with Manmeet directly - he is approachable; (5) when there is work there is work, no life- when is there no work, there is life- you will have a 70-30 work life balance; and (6) high exposure and chance to represent great clients in market.

We all know about hot shot senior counsels and even a few well regarded law firm partners (in the litigation sector) in Mumbai. Who are a few mid-to-senior level legal officers in Banks/ARCs/NBFCs who are well liked and whose professional competence is well regarded by law firm people/counsels ?

Where are all the trolls who were badmouthing Ramanuj and defending NUJS? The Amit Talukdar/AK Poddar fan club? Hiding their heads in shame? Someone even posted a comment on LI making fun of Ramanuj’s accent. Just

vindicates his point that NLU students are insecure and jealous of LawSikho for giving opportunities to TLC students.

Hey man, don't worry about the culture shock you had at college. Work is a whole different ball game. And even there, don't worry too much. Just focus on the basics: taking clear instructions, doing your best, asking doubts wherever required and following up on time. This should be enough for you to learn atleast in the first year. And as you learn, you'll figure it out.

P.S. just another A0 two months into his corp life.

Hello guys recently bharucha & partners has come to our college for day 0. We will be having rounds namely online written test, online gd, online interview?

Can anyone tell in brief how do they conduct such rounds and what type of questions they ask especially in online written test and interview?

Thanks

I am a final year T3 NLU student. I am in need of a remote job immediately. I tried applying for content writer, journalist, paralegal roles. Got a few responses, but pay is peanuts. Anything above 25kpm would do atp. What do I do? What else do I try? Any suggestions? Please help!