Barutha & Barutha

Is this firm even real? Looks super creepy to me. Recently they posted a lot of opportunities over LinkedIn. What's creepy to me is that the firm has a bunch of "Partners" who are apparently extraordinary attractive women who have seemingly AI generated pictures on LinkedIn by the name of Shreya Oberoi, Simran Kaur and one or two more. The Managing Partner namely Sachin Mahendra seems like a real person, I looked him up, he is a Director in the firm called "Barutha Consultancy LLP". The firm's website has a team of advocates- both men and women who are apparently super attractive and have AI generated pictures. Moreover, almost no team members have any LinkedIn presence.

All this seems very creepy to me. I hope I'm not the only one seeing this as a huge red flag and borderline psychotic if my suspicions are true.

Can anyone confirm the authenticity of this firm and their super attractive AI generated team?

True but not true,

While associates do exactly as you described, partners do get a small piece of the "really interesting part" i.e structuring, advising, negotiations etc.

The comparison makes very little sense because juniors at the other offices (fund managers, bankers etc) don't get to do the exiting job as well. Ig people in funds are there for the longer game. It is highly unconventional at the global level compared, and tbh I'd do it anyday over gc or mna in India.

At the same time I agree with you, kids need to be absolutely sure about what they want and understand the role lawyers play and our scope of work. It is very limited during the starting years.

https://twitter.com/jai_a_dehadrai/status/1719558180307710436

The person accused of corruption and compromising national security is guilty of something far worse - and no - I’m not talking about the theft of my dog.
@jai_a_dehadrai

I am an HR at a T2 law firm and have 3 years of experience. NLS has recently opened application for the post of placement officer. Can someone throw some life on the pay and growth prospects and is this a good opportunity for me?

https://www.lawctopus.com/job-post-recruiter-people-and-culture-office-at-nlsiu-bangalore/

I feel that Advocate Dehadrai could have resolved the Henry matter amicably, for Henry's sake, outside court, if he wanted - without any of the publicity-seeking litigation. Something about all this doesn't sit right in my mind. I feel that he has used poor Henry as a trope to further his agenda and public profile. Also, what was he doing sitting on all that information when the going was good? Assuming she (Mahua) was corrupt, could it not be said that she bought his silence and allegiance with work at the Supreme Court etc etc? I feel that if Mahua is found guilty and punished, then some of that punishment should come Advocate Dehadrai’s way too. He should be punished even more if she's found not guilty. Thoughts, anyone?

We all know that generally speaking Corp Law internships are not given to students in first year because they lack substantial knowledge on corp law matters. However, I was wondering if there's a way to get a corp law internships in the first year itself. ( Maybe some lower tiered firms that would be willing to offer corp law internships) I'll be grateful If people could share their insights. Particularly interested to hear how one can get such internships without contacts/connections.

Thanks in advance

P.S: Would request the trolls to stay away!

I just have one doubt. The screenshot that Tharoor shared has notifications@apple.com as the sender. Surely this is an official Apple ID? How can an NGO use this id?

https://www.timesnownews.com/india/invisible-hand-of-george-soros-in-apple-scandal-bjp-sees-access-now-link-article-104884443

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/phone-hacking-row-bjp-cites-link-between-george-soros-funded-access-now-and-alerts-received-by-opposition-leaders/articleshow/104879438.cms

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/video/bjp-cites-link-between-george-soros-funded-access-now-and-apple-hack-alert-2456607-2023-11-01

Probably because they did not feel comfortable doing so during the trimester. Besides the SBA polling hasn't even started. This is just to inform the student body about the quality and history of the candidates contesting the elections, which is again a very reasonable thing to do.

Doesn't kill you to educate yourself a bit about what is going on :)

Lmao, no. Clearing AILET leaves one with little time to correctly read these random humblebrag posts on LI (why is the OP still following up with other firms despite having multiple internships in a month and already having landed in a soup?). Didn't read the "all in Mumbai" line. In any case my question still stands

Yea, obviously everything is related to thr SBA elections now that your ragger friend may choose to stand. Think beyond this, college is reopening the kid could have very well done this to protect his safety and mental space ( something that the bully loves standing up for)

sorry but fighting for disability rights don’t make the person to act in this disgusting manner

I just saw a Linkedin Lawyer (registrar of a shady arbitration institute) that he is training judges of different jurisdictions. People need to realise that those who have time to flaunt their insignificant court appearances, random conferences, moots are not necessarily good lawyers. Plus some of these linkedlin lawyers have started buying awards (30 under 30, 40 under 40) or being on the some panels of these award ceremonies.

Like I understand it's difficult for a fresher to get job from a no name college, but if he's hard working and adaptive and makes it, will he be still sidelined due to local college or the college doesn't matter past 5-6 PQE ?

Do they get equal opportunities to switch firms/ companies ?

I was also told something similar: "If you come to me with only the problem and not with the solution, then you are also a part of the problem"

In my first year I was told to think out of the box, but when I attempted to share some idea, I was shushed and told "you youngsters! always trying to reinvent the wheel"

@LegallyIndia thanks for clarifying! I thought some salting and hashing would be involved.

So if I understand that correctly, what you are basically saying is that there are three layers to anonymize my IP address?

Layer 1: Original_ip_address ---- converted to ---> Salted_ip_address

Layer 2: Salted_ip_address ----- converted to -----> SHA384_hashed_ip_address

Layer 3: SHA34_hashed_ip_address --- converted to ---> 3 emojis

So even if I somehow reverse-engineer layer 3, reverse-engineering just layer 2 is, well, practically impossible, and reverse-engineering layer-1 is also super difficult because the 'salt' keeps on changing.

This begs the question - since no can decrypt the emojis to figure out what the original IP was (and not even LI can decrypt it because of layers 1 & 2)**, why even bother doing it? why are you even storing IP addresses?

**unless LI stores the 'Original_ip_address' along with the 'salt' used to create the 'Salted_ip_address', somewhere else in their database, because from there on they just have to carry out the steps for layers 2 & 3 to get the 3 emojis being used represent your IP. My guess is LI is storing the 'Original_ip_address' along with the 'salt' somewhere else in a different database.

Who are the most irrelevant lawyers who happen to be famous? I am asking about folks who are seen in newspapers and tv channels or social media but are not seen arguing in court or representing parties in other non-judicial forums...

Also, who are the rare picks who are famous and are also heavily briefed?

I shared my harrowing experience with a celebrity mediator with the hope that you would support the cause and publish it. I drafted it responsibly - without giving any descriptors of this person. I am saddened to see that LI preferred not to publish it. And here I thought that LI was independent and also stood for impartiality and fairness. It is clearly under the control of the powers that be.

Thanks for stress testing our system - you really shouldn't be able to see your own Emoji IP, so we'll try to fix that (have redacted the details of your post in the meantime so we don't get drowned in spam :)

If you're interested in technical details about whether this is strong enough, would welcome your feedback. Tldr, it is intended to be fairly cryptographically and practically secure. [If you're technically inclined, here are the boring details: your IP address is first 'salted' (sprinkled) with a random sequence of 40 letters that gets regenerated approximately daily, then 'hashed' with SHA384 (akin to a one-way encryption that can not be reversed), and then three partial character sequences of the hash are converted into three out of more than 1000 emojis. And even if it was theoretically possible to reverse engineer it, approximately after a day the old 'salt' is deleted and a new one is generated.]

Hope that helps and always happy for feedback and more tests.

As Non-NLU and from a not a top 10 private Uni, I am currently facing a dilemma of trying to secure internships and work and hope that the same would be converted into a job in tier-3-5 law-firms in preferred area or should only focus on govt exams irrespective of my interest.

There was recently a newspaper article posted on LI which mentioned that Paridhi Adani attended finishing school in Switzerland. I guess that as a future Adani bahu, about to rub shoulders with top CEOs and heads of state at Davos, such training was thought necessary even if she came from a super-elite family. But what about ordinary NLU grads? They may not make it to Davos, but they have to interact with elite clients, dine at luxury hotels, impress potential clients at seminars etc. Shouldn’t they to be trained in skills like accent and diction, making conversation, writing emails, dressing well, hair styling, ordering the right wine and single malt etc etc?? Such things undoubtedly make an impression and NLU grads irrespective of backgrounds maybe be unaware of them. I also wonder if law firms provide such training in-house to new associates?

It used to be very good 7-8 years back when Caleb Sir headed the patent practice. His replacements are not even half of his knowledge, compassion, and legacy. The firm now engages contract employees/consultants to bring down the cost. Moreover, since every tom-dick-harry in the firm wants to be a Partner (only because he/she has spent a considerable time in the firm) and is incapable of getting even a single long-term client, there has been a lot going around in the firm. Workwise, certainly there has been a downfall in both quantity and quality. However, they have been able to retain a few clients basis the legacy of old Partners and therefore you can expect a reasonable amount of work from an internship perspective. You can certainly apply for internship in Bangalore office, which has more no of matured and professionals than Gurgaon office. Regarding stipend, I am not sure if they have any. Wont be surprised if there's none, considering their preference of hiring contract employees!

These views are purely my experience in the firm, almost 10years back!

just checked their website. looks very shady and fake to me. their international partners dont even exist, google their names - no linkedin, no social media, and the pictures theyve uploaded of the partners are AI-generated. the other responses to this post are probably from the founder himself, they all have a similar writing style.

Can't say abut work culture but their HR head @delhi office is ▮▮▮. she pointed me for wearing casual jeans & t-shirt at interview & finally rejected me just after 4-6 minute Q&A session. moreover bit chaos was at interview room & no organize scheduling for candidates. Won't recommend this firm.

Yes, we read this all the time, so that we know what to buy (there was a good tip of avoiding Rados and Audis because both are gaudy), and which places to avoid (all social climbers/ associates are now making a beeline for Chambers, we heard). For boats, we have the Telegram group.

There's a well known saying:

"Go to LI for the watch, RBYC for the yacht".

My case was recently referred to a renowned mediator and this person from the get-go has broken every tenet that stands for fairness and impartiality:

- communicating ex parte with the other side

- seeking favors/ indulgences from the other side

- giving latitude to factual positions and statements made by opposing counsel (while ignoring our submissions entirely)

Coordinating with this mediator's junior associates, all of whom are law graduates from okayish universities, has been a painful experience. They exhibit an indifferent attitude, often ignoring emails and texts for days or weeks. Some of them probably got hired with a phone call from a highly placed politician/ bureaucrat/ fauji, etc

To make matters worse, during the proceedings, this mediator has been favoring one side's lawyers, subtly highlighting their credibility - by discussing unrelated cases involving high-profile parties, as if they were old acquaintances.

Such conduct, in my opinion, casts a shadow over the Indian ADR system.

My experience before this high-profile (yet shady) mediator leaves me hesitant to recommend mediation for resolving high-stakes claims. It's individuals like this mediator that inadvertently steer good cases towards large law firms because they can get away with so much unchecked! - from shifting goalposts shamelessly to delivering drafts riddled with inconsistencies and grammatical errors.

I really hope that this big-shot mediator gets to read this and conducts future proceedings fairly. So peeved that I wouldn't care less if this mediator gets offended and recuses. This mediator should also read up on the law and submissions provided by both sides before the sitting (instead of walking in with a blank). These sessions arent happening for free! It's laughable how the opposing counsel, in this case, has gotten away with passing off nonsensical legal submissions that can be called out by a 3rd-year law student without being put to check by this particular mediator.

The thought of having to appear before this mediator again makes me cringe.

hi,

I know it sounds really interesting but let me break the reality of law firm practice in it to you. You will be relegated to 1. Boring editing of long documents, 2. Comparing docs, 3. Checking again, 4. Filling details in the docs.

The "really interesting part you read in articles" is enjoyed by the fund managers, the bankers, and of course the LPs.