You cannot have it both ways. Either accept all NIRF data which shows that out of the top 20 law schools in the country, only 4 are run by the central government (5, 9, 14 and 17 rank holders, with IIT KGP's law school behind Jamia even among the central ones), which means that until there are at least 6 central universities out of the top 10, you should not keep saying that those are better places to study and pursue law from. Or else accept that NIRF data is faulty, in which case do not cherry pick parameter-wise data to support your argument.

Lakshmikumaran & Sridharan has decent presence in Chennai. You can consider that for tax. Other than that, it is largely individual practitioners. You can try your luck with some good junior counsels as well. One person that comes to mind is Rahul Unnikrishnan (Arvind Datar's junior). Don't know what the pay is, but worth a shot. If not for a job, at least for some guidance.

From reliable sources, it appears that there is a policy change at SAM in relation to eligibility for bonus. Essentially, irrespective of how much of your targets are hit, you are only eligible for how much your team makes!

Hard working and competent associates won't be rewarded - no incentive for individuals to excel?

Absolutely. Most talk of autonomy (including linguistic autonomy) when it comes to center-state relationships, but forget the fact that the same mindset can exist within the states themselves. E.g. Marathwada region in Maharashtra, North Karnataka, Bodo region in Assam, or Hill region in WB. They too can use the same argument and start divisive actions. After all, there is no end to divisiveness.

To OP: Beware of commenters here. They are trying psy-ops to convince you not to drop, even though dropping is very common and many commenters are prob droppers themselves. They have a motivated agenda to eliminate competition.

FYI dropping is very normal and not a problem. There are ZILLIONS of NLU grads who are doing vey well in their careers after dropping.

Mine:

1. Law schools: NLSIU retains #1 NIRF spot, but goes Rhodes-less for yet another year

2. Law firms: Foreign law firms still not allowed. UK FTA signed without a legal liberalisation clause

3. Politics: Modi and Trump win

4. Sport: India puts on best ever show at the Olympics

5. Showbiz: Taylor marries Travis

might be that 75-85/90k range in capital markets. They have a lot of work and Sangeeta deals with both Indian and foreign clients. Plus anyone in Mumbai law circles will tell you that Rajani is the go to firm in midsized ECM work so yeah, might be a good bet for someone to start out their career in that trajectory. Barring RA, Crawford and Kanga also have good work in CM (not as bulky as Rajani though).

Why is there a sudden influx of iitkgp promoting troll in every thread ?

I read the few PhD threads active now and that person is just spamming NIRF data everywhere claiming IITkgp as best law school.

I mean, why even bother ? Since most people with an LLM here are one year ones. Whereas IITkgp clearly states a 2 year llm is needed. So the only people going to IITkgp for a PhD are from non-nlu colgs.

Study the old laws first. Since the concept have not changed, the material will remain same.Then compare it to the new ones.

Most questions that will come up in the first few years of competitive exams would be; how is it different from the old ? what are new things added ? What punishments are different? Where have the changes been ?

The concepts will remain the same. The only thing that changes is numbers, whether sections or in years of punishment. But majority would focus on difference between the old & new.

The people in the comments are clearly first yr students who have no idea how CVs are selected at law firms but have heard hearsay things.

Here's some expert advice if you may :)

1. Moots, at whatever stage, in whatever subject, with whatever prizes or positions, hold no value in terms of your CV for internships/ jobs in corp law firms, in house teams, litigation chambers, policy firms etc. Nowhere. Not even moot court committee memberships.

2. Here's how your CV is vetted- Your college- rank- your past internships if relevant to the team- publications

That's it.

So when you apply to HRs, they check your college. If you aren't from the top ones, you need to be a topper. Then you are arranged across different category of students and objectivily shortlisted. So ranks 1- 25 from NUJS> ranks 1-5 HNLU> Rank 1 GLC. The shortlists are further shortlisted by associates looking at your past internships and relevance to their work and your publications for objective analysis. They may actually open one and read it.

The shortlists are interviewed by partners and confirmed. Yes, the partner may like to converse about the moot, but it doesn't matter at all.

Therefore, moot for the spirit and thrill but don't let it curtail your academics and internships.

How new acts are implemented? How much time it takes to notify it in gazette after president assent? Amit Shah also said, these acts first will be implemented in UTs by Dec 2024. From judges to police, student everyone needs time to get familiar with these. Haryana, Rajasthan judiciary notifications about to come in 2-3 months? Kya padhe? Purane ya naye wale? Please no trolls

Hey,

See I understand you’ll be a lil confused as to whether you need to take a drop. Tbh, getting a T1 NLU could give you a head start as some of these ppl here have pointed out. I think that you need to take a risk here. Maybe give yourself one year of your life to stay at home and prep for CLAT and NLuD. If it works out, your efforts would not have gone for waste. You’ll get all you want. In case it doesn’t work out, maybe join a private college or a lower ranked NLU and work your ass off ( you need to work hard where ever you end up at). So try this option out. Sort of a middle ground. I really don’t believe that ppl who are advising you against taking a drop had actually taken a drop. So think a lil carefully before deciding on what to do.

I am a fifth-year student at a top-tier NLU, considering going abroad for an LLM next year.

In the event I am unable to find a job outside India, and I am forced to come back, would it be easy for me to find a job at a Tier-1 law firm?
What would the process be like?

Uhm, the point was about the cognitive dissonance on being pro LGBT and also pro Palestine/Hamas?

War aside (agreed generally with your points) why do left liberals always side with the Islamic side of the story when Islam is unabashed in its hatred of anything that isn't patriarchal. Why can't true Hindus (who aren't basically copying the cultlike attributes of abrahamic faiths) and liberals unite for a better world?

Hello: I was until recently a partner at a tier 1 and am now actively looking to hire for international tax in Bangalore. Drop me a note on LinkedIn.
https://in.linkedin.com/in/shreya-rao-36695830

in mnlu rn and considered slsp when i was joining. If you want you live in a good city choose mumbai slsp and pune is not good. go slsp unless you need to get a loan for it, not worth it then. glc is realllyy good for people who want to do litigation. I would say talk to people on linkedin.

JFYI.....congress government in Karnataka (where NLSIU is located) also won the polls based on promises of free things. Now the state government says it does not have the funds to fulfill those promises. The point is, the people of Karnataka are no smarter (if that was your point).

1. Improve your network within your T3 city lawyer community.

2. Save and invest your current earnings.

3. Move to your state capital and work with one of the designated senior counsel's chambers.

4. Get your T3 lawyer network to send you their writ petitions, appeals etc.

GIFT city has legalised alcohol. This is a welcome news as young professionals were hesitant to move to a dry state for career, hence there was talent retention and hiring challenges for Ahmedabad based offices. Now with this news, whether more and more firms will prefer Ahmedabad over Mumbai since Mumbai is already over crowded. Hopefully soon alcohol is legalised in entire state. This will effectively shut down weekend tourism economy of Diu, Daman, Abu or Udaipur where Gujjus just drive to drink and party.

Thoughts

Agree 100%. This is the reason why UGC has already made it clear that by 2030 there will be no single discipline universities in the country. To qualify as a degree-granting university, every university must have at least five disciplines. This means stand-alone institutions (like state NLUs) must add at least four non-law disciplines into their mix. All top law schools in the world are part of a larger university system for a reason.

Ha, ha.....this is nothing. Yesterday the students of Jadavpur University received their degrees from the VC who was fired by the Governor earlier in the day. Imagine receiving your degree scrolls from a person who does not even hold his position.

State Universities (both MNLU and Javdavpur) main sab chalta hai. Why do you think people prefer national universities?

I find your calling 🇮🇱 pro-murder to be foolish and problematic. Please do yourself and us all a favour and read more.

Read Douglas Murray's on-ground coverage of this conflict before filibustering us with your views.

Here's a recent debate of his vs Cenk Uygur - http://tinyurl.com/56dd4bex

This is such a sad reply... some people have people to feed and look after. Guidance and all is ok but in the long run, everyone wants to get paid a fairly decent amount to sustain themselves and their dependence. If you have so much of experience, one would expect you to be a little more understanding. Stop with ur guidance factor propoganda. People learn as their career goes on. If you have nothing good to say to someone asking genuine questions, stfu.

I'm a final year law student from a fairly reputed private law school with an interest in direct and international tax. I've done a few boutique and litigation internships as well, and I did not despise it like many of the other law students and considering how few students chose this field, I would like to pursue a career in it.

Due to certain family issues, I do not want to burden my parents by making them support me for another few years while pursuing litigation. I want to become financially independent as soon as possible.

The firm's I interned at unfortunately don't hire freshers. I've applied to a few places in Delhi for internships, and am awaiting responses.

However, I would much prefer working in Chennai/Banglore. From my preliminary research, tax teams for law firms tend to be centred around Bombay and Delhi. Delhi is still somewhat possible, but Bombay will be unaffordable for me.

Are there any good tax firms down south which pay a decent salary? If not, I would be grateful for some leads in direct/international tax in Delhi as well. Have less than 6 months before I graduate. I know it's very late, but I intend to make the best of the time I have left.

Thanks :)

Those who have been following me will know, CS LLB chap here, work with dad in indirect taxes graduated from a decent top 10 law college & now looking to shift to the law firm system.

While my preparation for technical round is in full swing, I received rather curious advice today; directly meet/approach partners don't waste time applying on career pages or cold emailing.

Has anyone ever given this a go? Rest assured I've already started meeting people and won't hesitate to be more aggressive and solicit partners directly

Why should I know about all laws in details other than the domain where I'm actually planning to do my PhD in? Does Sudhir know anything about Corporate Law or Banking& Finance? This stupid culture of testing candidate's legal knowledge across all domains before admitting them for PhD only exists in India.

You have assumed that IIT KGP is falsifying data. That in itself is a serious allegation you make just to prove your point. That's a new low and the onus is on you to prove it. As you say, if falsifying data is so rampant in the NIRF, state NLUs can also do the same. So in reality their scores must be even lower than the dismal ones currently shown.

Once you base your entire argument on IIT KGP falsifying data, this is a dead discussion. To assume that an institution like IIT KGP is falsifying data (year after year) and no one noticed it is laughable. I would rather believe IIT KGP than you. After this whatever you say does not matter. As someone already commented - the bottom line is that IIT KGP SOL scores the highest in research in the law category and that does not change. State NLUs can remain in their la-la-land and state of denial while the sand shifts right under their feet.

NLS takes candidates from other places too, although they may take longer than expected in clearing your PhD depending on the equation between your guide and the VC. You should ask around for good guides in the subject where you wish to work on and proceed from there. Don't go institution-wise, but try to go guide-wise instead. In India, the thesis quality and content and resulting publications matter more than the institution where you do your PhD from. You can try for NALSAR, NLUD, NUJS, even NLUJ (if you can get the NLUJ VC for example as guide). You can also try JNU, DU for PhD. If you crack NET and get JRF, then most public universities will be eager to get you provided your proposal is a decent one.

Please be honest with me.

I've done my LLB & LLM from DU. I am a gold medalist in both those courses. Due to family circumstances I sadly would not be able to pursue my Ph.D from abroad. I'm left with the option of Jindal or NLS, if I genuinely want to pursue at the best institute of the country.

However, in both those case. Jindal only takes in candidates that have a LLM from abroad. NLS only takes in candidates from NLS,NALSAR or NLUD. Therefore, does a non-nlu student like me, despite having excellent records have a chance ?

Should I even try to apply at Jindal & NLS knowing that there is a clear partiality at these institutions. Or should I try for other NLUs or IITs if I want to be the best ??

Please provide a helpful and honest reply.

As someone who has spent 3+ years in the team, I would say the work culture is very good. Everyone is really nice to work with rare to very occasional all-nighters required at any level. However, only issue why I left was that the team does not have any marquee clients or matters and has very little transactional work. So from a growth perspective, this 'top heavy' has little to offer.

Mnlu, Aurangabad is having Prof.A lakshminath as Vice-chancellor in charge at the 82 to make mnlu, auranabad no.1 in India by 2047. By violation all rules of UGC and University act, he was given charge. First and Second Vice-chancellor left before completion of term due to financial irregulars, and bias.

Prof. Lakshminath was asked to leave CNLU by protest of students in 2019, and still he wishes to continue to ruin law schools in the name seniority, caste and polities. selling LLd and ph.d . No one know where are his 150 phd scholars and 50 LLD scholars in India or abroad.

Only God save, MNLU, Aurangabad. I think God is also afraid. fate of students at stake.

I am not sure under which law he is acting as Vice-Chancellor in charge at the of 83, Indian Legal Education Rocks. Jai Hind.

Hope this University's will be no 1 in Maratha region.by 2024

Absolutely true. The only NLU worth doing a PhD from is NLS. I mean look at the difference in the entrance test. NLUD employing a objective MCQ paper, that may be cracked with luck. Whereas NLS has a lengthy, complex and subjective paper that can only be cracked if you know the length and breadth of law in detail.

Since you've already studied law and have a degree. Try studying for the clat and bagging the top 3 NLUs for LLM. No matter what people say about llm and NLUs. The top three definitely do open doors for a chance at a tier2 firm. Most of my non name colg friends turned their life around through this route. Did LLM from NLS, NALSAR, NUJS, NLUJ, GNLU and have gotten into some firms.

If you don't want to do llm then join a LPO. 2-3 year work exp from there will help you get in somewhere. Atleast in a tier2. Bro it's all about stacking up the experience

Speaking from experience, International moots, only a few are worth your time. Jessup is definitely up there. Prestigious national moots on the other hand really amp your CV up in the subject they were in. Performing well in Palkhivala (Tax Law), Surana (Corp), KK Luthra etc. would really help you while applying in their respective areas of work. I don't think recruiters care much about your performance in some random Space Law, Aviation Law or maybe Media law moot.

Over the last few years I have come across many grifters in the field who tenaciously post fanciful updates on LI and X. As an example, one of my college classmates, who failed in several subjects and has no practice of his own, is now a mentor and arbitration specialist on LinkedIn. Another famous shitposter on Twitter is known to be briefless and vella and occassionally lurks in the Supreme Court canteen. Twitter and LinkedIN lawyers have created their own circlejerk community where they promote each other, but some of the ones with larger followings have no deals/matters of note. This practice really hurts students and fresh grads who tend to idolize them and are in turn horribly misguided. Agree? If yes, comment with an "Agree"

Working with Percy has its good and bad times. The good ones overshadow the bad ones. He gets deep into a problem. Deeper into the law and comes out with thumping good arguments. The problem is that most like ready made two minute arguments - Percy is just not that kind of lawyer. As a person, he is very generous and takes care of his juniors and friends alike. A good human bieng. Loves his dogs, seafood and cigars.