Graduating this year from JGLS and keen on a career in litigation. Thinking of applying at various litigation law chambers. I am told that many top notch law offices like Singh & Associates have a strict NLU only criteria for freshers and I find this disheartening. So I am thinking of joining a counsel with drafting work like Vedanta Varma. Does he have any hiring criteria like this? Please help out a junior without connections in this field!

Hey, I'm a lawyer with about 2 years PQE. 95% of my job has been drafting reviewing agreements, providing legal opinions and applying for trademarks and appearing in front of the examiner. I have done 3 high court matters only in toto and a couple dozen MSME pleadings.

In my new job, which is predominantly a disputes firm, I have felt a bit insecure when I get into any disputes related work. Especially when disputes lawyers say IP/Corporate lawyers aren't "real" lawyers, lol. I hate courts and the dispute resolution system in India which my boss has acknowledged and the most I do in terms of disputes apart from TMs is replying to/drafting a legal notice regularly.

I am getting good offers from corp law firms / in house folks but it always plays in the back of mind that I have 0 lower court experience and very little high court experience. Only TM and MSME tribunals.

Will this harm me in the long run and should I mandatorily do 1 year of only disputes despite hating it? I particularly hate the law of admissions and denials.

This should be a rule in every university and college, particularly residential with hostels. Dog lovers are a menace to the society. All your love for dogs or cats or monkeys or any animal should be in your home. Or go to forest and display. I have seen people dying due to stray dog bites. Nobody takes responsibility. This rule should be followed by every college and university.

Its definitely affordable for a T1 partner. Its not like you will outrightly purchase the car. These brands have financing / leasing arrangements which can make these cars affordable for a T1 partner. With a down payment of 10-15 lacs you can easily afford a BMW/Audi/Mercedes etc. We are talking about a monthly EMI of 50-60K which is not a lot tbh (unless you have existing liabilities such as ongoing home loan / personal loan).

This is such a load of bullshit.

My boss (in a PE firm) is at least 10-20x wealthier than the average successful law firm partner and he drives around in cars which won't be considered fancy. We have several domestic individual LPs whose net worth will be in the hundrers of crores and then also don't all drive around in fancy cars, some do and other don't, some also stay in flats - 3 BHKs in societies where you wouldn't expect someone that wealthy staying. I am also friends with a few senior advocates; and some drive German cars and others don't - and these guys would be earning in many times what a successful law firm partner, who is at least a couple of standard deviations away from the mean, would be earning.

No one gives a shit - certainly not your clients and certainly not most professional acquaintances.

You don't make 15 cr in savings by 35/40, by working in law firm.

That apart, if you don't retire even after 15 crs in savings, then you must really like the job. Because money wise that 15cr is sufficient capital (middle class) once you invest it, even for metro living.

Do some FIRE research.

Okay, if the kids are not at all to blame in this then I walk it back. But no sympathy should be given to any idiot who puts other people's lives at risk and I've seen plenty of rich kids speeding their cars whether drunk or sober and I hope each time they meet a prolonged and painful ending without any harm to others' property or person.

Bharucha will pay you the best, and torture you the most. (Started my career in BD there)

Trilegal does pay around that ballpark, though you will be considered to be an employee, and won't have a retainer. (Basically bahaut tax katega. [I work here now])

Solomon & Co is inadvisable to go to as an A1 because they need someone to do basically everything for them. You need to be at least an A3 to take on that role. (I rejected an offer from them for the same reason)

Argus is decent but again, you will be considered to be an employee. The culture is easy going, and Aarti is fun to work with. (Been invited to join them a few times)

Points to show that India in 2024 is better off than British India:

- Only one famine has happened in India since 1947, while over fifty famines killing millions of people occurred in just one or two centuries of British rule.

- India's share of the global GDP in 1947 was 4%, now it is significantly more.

- There is now a proper English-speaking middle class of crores of people in India, who contribute both to high-skilled immigrants to the West as well as leading scientists and academicians within India.

- Even though India is still poor, with an unenviable level of human rights, the poverty levels and experience of the aam admi is incredibly better and higher than it was during British rule. A disadvantaged Indian today has a much better chance of doing well in life and accessing justice than he did 100 years back.

There are many more reasons, but these are some of the key ones.

Asking because the current burning legal topics are inherently linked to culture wars, e.g.

- Gaza ICJ case

- SC case on electoral bonds

- Trump fraud cases

- Affirmative action in US and reservation in India

- UCC

- CAA

- Gyanvapi case

- Newsclick case

- Free speech

- Censorship of JGLS students

- Trans rights

- The continuing saga that can be variously referred to as Mahuagate, Adanigate, Hiranandanigate, Dehadraigate, Shardulgate, JonesDaygate, GopalShanksgate, Pinakigate and Henrygate

etc.

So should we confine LI to NLU and law-firm related news and goss only? This is particularly relevant as we are approaching election season. The other option is to convert LI into a message board site and have different boards: one on NLUs, one for law aspirants, one for law firms, one for luxury gear and one for general legal topics.

Thoughts???

In fact, I think some women may like being referred to as girls because it makes them feel young! For example, if you ask people who are 25-30 years old if they are college students, they may act embarrassed but secretly like it. A very good female friend of mine, who is 27 but looks very young told me so herself, after a client mistook her for an intern and remarked that she looked like a student.

I am a 3rd year student. If I want to pursue a career in academia, how do I go about it. Apart from studying abroad, due to paucity of finance, what should be the roadmap. Also, let's say I've finished my education till PhD in India and later on have enough money to go abroad. What should I look at then; masters specialisation, post doc or teaching vacancies abroad ?

Congratulations.

Jindal is one of the best faculty employers in India.

Positive

Good salary, higher than UGC pay scale.

Minimum teaching hours (8 hours per week)

Ample time and funding.for research, travel grants etc better than any private uni in the country

Housing, transport, food on campus, health center, sports, other facilities.

No unnecessary attendance rules - punch in,.punch out like most private universities

Disadvantages

Location is rural Haryana. Sonipat small town nearby. Delhi is away.

If having school going kids, no top class schools in Sonipat like Delhi or Noida/Gurgaon.

If aged parents, no Max, Apollo or high quality hospital in the city.

Rest all fine.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/03/04/europe/un-team-sexual-abuse-oct-7-hostages-intl/index.html

Needs to be discussed because the present discourse in NLUs and JGLS is only focused on criticising Israel and does not criticise Hamas. We see certain student societies even glorify Hamas by calling them”freedom fighters”.

I work in a T1 and my motivation and energy to work is high throughout the day. But I'm seriously tired and can't for the life of me do efficient work post lunch. Whereas people around me are always energised and motivated even an 12am. How are they able to keep this up? Are they having coffee or coke? Or both? How do I keep my energy levels stable throughout the day?

JAG may join BJP and will fight election but it would be interesting to see whether he can continue to speak against corruption in all forms by staying within the BJP. The best course of action for JAG would be to join the BJP, get political power and then form his own party 5-10years down the line. This is the only person who can end corruption and change bengal for the better but whether he would be able to do that by staying within the BJP remains to be seen.

The place has seen highest attrition rate amongst law firms per LinkedIn almost 6-7 associates leave in a year or so? Is that even normal for a firm with less than 10 people? One can understand that 1-2 people leaving can be because of their fault. But this repeated exodus reflects poorly on the firm. One can come up with 200 clarifications, but what is fact is unhidden and in public knowledge. And yes, law is a small field, people do give verbal reviews, which also spread.

Pls read this

https://scroll.in/latest/1019780/iim-rohtak-head-was-appointed-despite-lacking-eligibility-centre-tells-hc-report

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/chandigarh-news/court-orders-further-probe-into-sexual-harassment-complaint-against-iim-rohtak-s-director-101662840668770.html?utm_source=whatsapp&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=ht_AMP

IIM Rohtak is substandard and a disgrace for IIM brand.

It should focus on management. Law is not your cup of tea.

Real estate. But you need to know local language. Otherwise you can never be an effective real estate lawyer. RE is geography specific. Indian RE will boom over the next 30 Years.

NCR and most north india - Hindi

Chennai - Tamil

Bangalore - Kannad

Mumbai - Hindi and some Marathi slang

Ahmedabad - Hindi with some Gujarati slang

You must be able to read, write and speak these languages. Otherwise you will depend on external counsel and you will be blind during title verifications.

SO WHAT?

How is it relevant to this platform?

Legally India was better than many of its peers in UK and US a decade ago. Better than roll on Friday, American lawyer magazines.

Now it's garbage. If old Kian saw the sorry state of affairs. He would burn it down.

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Honestly Modi shouldn’t worry, coz the data will show that all parties are funded by big business houses ▮▮▮

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/sbi-requests-supreme-court-to-extend-deadline-till-june-30-to-give-electoral-bonds-information-to-election-commission-5175191#pfrom=home-ndtv_topscroll

how does this one exam just make so much in life like how can an exam the students wrote now decide their placements after 5 years, that's how the system works, you get a top nlu you get easily placed and if you don't? like this year the paper was so easy so how does it decide who is competent and who is not, and the private colleges which have good placement cost so much. like what should really matter is what the students do in college and not how they did an exam 5 years ago, this really needs to be changed, you guys may think I'm saying this because i didn't get into an nlu but I have prepared for 2 full years and this paper was just so easy like i have no words it's just dissapointing for me and so many others.

This case should not be lumped with the three Jindal road accidents where the students died. The Jindal students were driving and were in the wrong. Here it was a different driver.

In any case, it’s pointless seeking to cast blame when young lives have been tragically lost. We need positive solutions like:

- Compulsory airbags

- More speed bumps

- Regular breathalyser tests on roads

I was an intern here and can confirm this. One of the paralegals was told on the last day of her 6 month paralegalship that she should show take more interest and initiative and the firm can’t make her a full time associate as of now and asked her to continue another 6 months as a paralegal.

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/gaurang-gadia_sharktankindiaseason3onsonyliv-fomo-sharktankindiaonsonyliv-activity-7170350460602626048-RMrl?trk=public_profile

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Fantastic achievement to become the first NLU student to be on Shark Tank and make such a big impact. And, of course, another feather in Law School’s cap. But there are two things I find interesting:

1. He is from the masters course (MBL). There is a tendency to overlook the MBL, but it also attract excellent students and is a great course at an affordable price. The MBL course is especially interesting because it caters to non-law students. Sudhir can really make this a star course. In fact, I am told that even the iPleaders course at NUJS, which was modelled on the MBL, earned NUJS a lot of money and attracted good students.

2. During the show, Aman dismissively asked him why he was studying law. Gaurang explained why law is important. I was disappointed with Aman’s attitude. How can such a big businessman not appreciate the importance of law? Very sad that lawyers are not considered important and MBAs are prized, when many NLU students can outdo IIM students.

If you want lutyens feel only four roads are good

Flagstaff

North End

Mg

Rajniwas marg

Bhikuram Jain Marg

These mentioned roads don't have apartments only bunglows and some rare penthouses

Health facilities are great

Getting an apartment for rent might turn out to be a challenge but it is worth it .

Areas like cp , Khan market are less than 25 minutes away . There is 200 acre forest(bonta)

Kamla nagar , du , old delhi are 2 minutes away . Civil lines is away from the hustle of South Delhi, a peaceful location with the best aqi in delhi. There is the building+exchange building) with luxury restaurants and bakeries.

Moreover civil lines offers more comfort for less than half the price compared to areas like safdarjung and GK

A confused 12th standard student out here. Should I go for law ( CLAT)or prepare for ipmat

( As I have maths in 12th).How are the prospects of law as career , is it really good especially corporate law.( I am the first gen) I got to know about CLAT recently only, I don't have any pure passion for either of the courses to be honest.

Please check facts. Most of his orders were upheld by the DB and later SC as well. In certain instances, the SC sent back the cases for a re-hearing. And the outcomes went against the state government. JAG had the state government and regime friendly judges spooked. Sure, he could have done things with greater tact. In many places he made rookie errors. But it also exposed (and educated) how the system really works beyond the fictions of objectivity, independence, coherence, discipline et al.

Whether JAG will continue to be maverick in the political arena remains to be seen. The record of judges as politicians is very poor. Then again those judges were not exactly paragons of virtue who were "corrupted" during their political innings.

The idea of standing independent and drawing tacit support from all the opposition parties, esp in a LS constituency like DH, is an appealing proposition. Maybe he will do that. There has been some talk of all the opposition parties joining hands to evict the Chosen One.

Then again, "the Sagardighi" model was a spectacular failure. That MLA is now with the ruling party.

On his own JAG can do little. Given the state of politics, BJP is the only party that can give him the bandwidth. But what will be the Faustian bargain?

Why not direct your attention to the like of PN Bhagwati, Chandrachur, AN Ray et al who were ruling party acolytes and some ended with long tenures as CJI. To later express hollow regret after enjoying the goodies and ensuring the gravy train for succeeding generations does not absolve them of taking deliberate steps to profit.

the conduct of judges during Emergency isn't the only blot. What about Bhopal Gas tragedy?

Be sensible, and don't comment when you don't know things. The kid who died was not drunk, the driver was, who's not even a part of the college. Please, stop assuming things, you're NOT god, you'll never be. Your shitty comments can be SO hurtful to people who loved the kid/were related to him.