AZB Noida’s dispute partner got [detained by police] on Sunday for [alleged] rash and negligent driving. How come this news is not on Legallyindia yet?

Video: Lawyer Drives Mercedes SUV Into Delhi Kachori Joint, 6 Injured

https://www.ndtv.com/delhi-news/fateh-kachori-video-lawyer-drives-mercedes-suv-into-delhi-kachori-joint-6-injured-5356561

Just ban it: chocolates, pizzas, burgers, chips, biscuits etc. Even stuff like choco pops served at breakfast in messes. Literally poison that will kill you. Addictive and harmful like cigarettes and drugs. Instead, there should be canteens serving only healthy food: fruits, salads, lean proteins etc. Start at law school level, because that is where kids get addicted and continue the habit in law firms.

My friend from Tri said they're looking for a Senior Associate right now so if you want to apply go for it.

https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/319902-hows-ameya-khandges-team-in-trilegal-banking

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I don't know what's the point at laughing at other's silly mistake? And then people wonder why others get depressed or can't speak up more. Grow up.

Don't worry about the replies OP, it happens. You'll meet more A-holes like this in law school & in the profession. Simply avoid them and toughen up.

Regarding your query, I assume you meant NLIU Bhopal. Well, it definitely is a tier 1 but well below NLS, NLUD, NALSAR, NUJS & maybe at par or below GNLU & NLUJ. Having said that, it's not a bad NLU, there is plenty of opportunities to do well. Sure the higher the NLU tag, the more opportunities you get. However that's absolutely upto your hardwork and networking. If you're interested in litigation, judiciary, civil services or academia, it's fine to continue there. Top NLUs mostly help in corporate placements.

My advice would be to join NLIU, then appear for clat again if you wish. In case you get a better university you can move, albeit you lose a year. If not you can continue at NLIU and you won't be wasting a year.

Whatever your choice, keep in mind beyond the next 5 years, as to where you want to see yourself. All the best.

Hi everyone. Given that a lot of firms have revised pay scales recently, let us make this a mega thread where everyone comments updated salaries in 2024 for all firms.

Format- Firm Name/Position/Salary (fixed+bonus)

For example- Pearson Spector/A0/12LPA(10+2)

Let’s have transparency in pay scales for these big firms and also please only comment if you know the revised pay scale with certainty.

Ritwik was in his fifth year and I was in my first when the tragic incident happened. Bo'23 was the last to actually see or know him. I talked to him maybe like 3-4 times but he was very humble, cheerful and generous senior. You won't feel as a first year that you're talking to someone the university looks up to. Amazing guy to be around.

It is mainly the football team that has created the annual practice of celebrating his birthday and remembering him. He is remembered not because he was a senior who passed away, but because you don't see a lot of selfless and loving people like him in the rat race of NLUs these days, the idea is to remember him so that someone somewhere decides to be like him. Rest in power Ritwik Sir!

Times have changed now

Al Jazeera like any other media is propaganda channel and many countries and even Arab countries like Egypt has banned them for terrorism support.

Better to ignore these alleged independent journalist and look at ground situation because elections are coming and opposition is gonna cry evm hack like every other election.

If ravish kumar calls himself independent and non biased journalist then Arnab is also non biased journalist. No journalist is non biased nowadays. These same people shut their mouth on sandeshkhali and other incidents which involve hindu victims or supporters who are from BJP which just tells you are biased because a non biased journo would report every incident irrespective of state or party involved

There are many people who are shifting to Mumbai from different cities the upcoming joining season and are looking for roommates. This thread is specifically for those who have offices in and around Lower Parel.

The purpose of this thread is to aid them in finding roommates and sharing information/resources/tips/cautionary tales for first time renters in Mumbai.

Sid chauhan is not liked because he makes jokes. I don’t mind his comments. And it’s very clear to anyone who knows that he’s very very knowledgable in consti law and legal theory and political science. There’s no need to think one must like either Vasanthi or chauhan - I liked them both as a student and both helped me build a career in research after.

Those are assumptions that are simply not true. The appropriate measure for which undergraduate institutions are preferred is - where are admits from ? Just because they’d encourage you to pay application fees and apply does not mean they’d prefer you in admissions. Minimum requirements does not mean a preference in admission. Applications go through stages.Minum requirements means you won’t get cut in the first round- but after that it means nothing at all. Toefl scores and GREs are minimum requirements too - anyone who has been through this process knows that meeting the minimums means nothing.

It also does not mean that the foreign university has done any work to evaluate the curriculum or evaluation standards of these foreign universities. There are hundreds of them - Oxford doesn’t have the time. They might rely on shorthand provided by foreign governments out of respect for those governments - but that alone doesn’t make that decision about merit.

Just because people disagree about which institutions have been chosen to be INIs or IOEs doesn’t mean people don’t see the obvious advantages of obtaining that status or that they don’t think such a classification shouldn’t exist.

To be a lawyer I will need to pass a bar exam- I know it’s a stupid exam that tests very little. I know people cheat on it. I know I would prefer an exam where we actually tested knowing and applying the law rather than the current farce. But that doesn’t mean I’m not gonna take the bar- that would be stupid.

This is false.

Actual stats:

15-16 PPOs

22 accepted offers on Day Z

3-4 accepted offers on Day One.

After Day One, people have got placed in companies like Jio Financial Services, GAIL etc that have offered around 18LPA CTC and law firms like Wadia Ghandia that pays around 10-12 LPA.

There are around 10-15 people in the BO'24 who still wants a job and the hiring drive is still going on. I'm sure that everyone who doesn't have a year loss will get a job. People with year loss will find it difficult to get a job in this market.

Yes, I know this story. She was a very nice girl and brilliant student. What happened is that she died when a huge wave struck her at the beach and swept her away. But the Indian media unfortunately sensationalised and lied about it, saying that she fell from a height died while trying to take a selfie. This story was even reproduced by foreign media. She was mocked and taunted by internet trolls. Then NLUJ students wrote letters to the media houses and got the stories revised. Really sick what the media will do for clicks and views.

Vacancies very year on year

Generally work of SEBI is growing as there are more listed companies than ever

23 and 24 were super busy years so in the last cycle SEBI took a lot of people- around 30

Only 6% of Indians currently participate in the equity market, buy mutual funds etc

This number is expected to go up to ~36% over 10-20 years as is the norm in developed countries

Also fractional investment in real estate is going to create a huge new market - SEBI chairman says that itself likely to be as big as the entire equity market

If that happens you will need a lot more SEBI law officers. 20-30 appointments every year is not too much to expect honestly. A few years like be down years like this year - don't worry about it. You can attempt multiple times. Just prepare hard thats all

NLSIU Bangalore & NLIU Bhopal - you mixed the two. There is absolutely NO comparison between the two. NLSIU is best in the country on almost all parameters. NLIU Bhopal is a tier 2 law school which might slip to Tier 3 in few years if they don't improve. It's already below Kolkata, Jodhpur & Gandhinagar.

Wise to take one more attempt at CLAT to get NLS Bangalore if you can.

Hi, Thanks for commenting. Just curious do environmental lawyers practice only for environmental ngos? Cant they be independent in opening up their own practice? What about conflicts between planning/infrastructure/environment - do such cases exist or are they all compliance related? What about matters of pollution?

I am open to considering the academic route. From my point of view, 3 year JD/LLB vs a 3 year phd not much difference in terms of my time investment. But knowing if I could directly apply for phd would be useful ie without a law background. Also would this limit me to academics (as in not being able to advise or practice)?

I'm currently interning under one of India's finest designated senior advocate. I desperately need to learn to draft better. My immediate senior has sub-par drafting skills which makes it tough for me to seek the proper mentorship/ guidance.

What's something I can do as a 4th year, for the remaining of my law school, to be significantly better at this?

Thanks in advance!

Hi,

I'm a fifth year student at a good NLU however I'm really having trouble finding a job this time post Day Z. I did not sit for Day Z because I had decided to prepare for judiciary however there is dire financial conditions in my household. Please help because I am about to graduate in just a month.

Genuine suggestions are appreciated.

That’s again a load of crap and shows how little you know about law schools in general and NLUD in particular. A majority of students who choose litigation, judiciary and UPSC and LLMs/MBA do so voluntarily. There’s a minority in every NLU who don’t get jobs and go in for this option. But most such kids prefer joining T2 firms and work their way up. Unlike some older NLUs, NLUD doesn’t focus much on T2 firms and in-house during placement season, for better or worse.

That’s very nice of NLUO students to do that. At NUJS, quite a few alumni and students have passed away: probably close to 25 or 30 I think, so easily an average of one death of an alum or student every year since the inception of the college. In some cases they are remembered through events/prizes, but in most cases there hasn’t been anything instituted in their memory. But this depends not just on the admin but also the family of the deceased. The family may prefer to donate to or work with another institution, e.g. a school or hospital or religious charity. Batchmates also play a role. If a batch is very united and has strong bonding, they may pool in together and do something for someone who is no more.

At Nalsar, we had person from the batch of 2008 who "died under mysterious circumstances" a few years later. I personally never met him, but some seniors told me that he used to be a distant, introverted person. It made me feel warmer about my batchmates in general — you never know who's going through what. Perhaps if he had more friends who checked in on him, he might've been in a better place, or atleast alive.

I feel like there's a broad consensus that Neha Pathakji is by far the best at teaching tax laws — possibly in India. I've met practitioners across KCO, NDA & Trilegal who've conferred with her on complex issues, I've met fellow alumni who sing her praise, and I've met nalsar students who actually have solid understanding of the fundamentals of tax law, which is rare among new joiners. Even NUJS used to offer some electives from her for a bit back in the day, if I'm not wrong. Now, I may not have had the best personal interactions with her — and I've heard a fair share of complaints of her recent power-trip as a dean — but her proficiency with the subject remains unquestioned.

I've also heard great things about some of the new professors though. Pranav came back to teach for a while, and I'm sure he would've been a brilliant chap at that. Heard similar things about Aakanksha who was swiftly poached by JGLS. Sudhanshu was definitely a decent professor too, though his specialisation was more in capital markets than company law at large; regardless he's also now at NLS.

Last I heard, there are no great professors currently — most of the corporate-related learnings happen through practitioner-led electives, which thankfully have been increasing steadily. So, if you're a fellow alum & can find the time, this would actually be a great time to take courses: we wouldn't be where we are w/o our professors either now, would we?

Hey - it's great that you were abe to make the switch to a T1 after being unjustly treated by this prick! If you don't mind, could you reflect on your journey of job-hunting as a former A0 at a non-T1 firm for our benefit — just some tips, tricks, how does that process go, and what can incoming A0s keep in mind to prepare for contingencies? Thanks!

I absolutely don't think bragging about how much money an associate makes is a great thing to do, however, I doubt any other firm in India can match JSA pay, especially to newish lawyers.

In one of my good months, I made more than 6L in a single month. Friends of mine found it difficult to switch because no firm could pay as much. The firm had a ton of issues in terms of work culture/pressure but work quality and financial remuneration were unmatched. Base pay is notably lower than Trilegal, AZB, SCAMs etc. but if your team has enough work, you'll be making insane money.

Can we please address how unethical and stupid this is? What are law firms getting out of such paid internships?

What are law firms such as SAM, CAM, Luthra, NDA, IndusLaw, Dhir & Dhir, Samvad, etc. getting out of these paid internships? Is 10-20k really worth more than their reputation?

In NLUO, there was one person named Ritwik Das, he died while playing football during NUJS Invicta due to cardiac arrest in 2019. Every year since then his birthday is celebrated by students as a tradition. I don't think anyone on campus now knew him personally but they celebrate his birthday without fail. His parents too have instituted a Gold Medal in his honour. The gold medal is awarded to best sports person from every batch during convocation.

http://www.ipu.ac.in/uslls/profamarpalsingh.pdf

As per https://bblabs.in/demo/allahabad_univ/faculty-of-law.php prof. Jai Shankar Singh has published 60 papers

just hang in there for one more year, submit your thesis by the end of the third year, then butter up the VC and get a research associate position (will pay between 35-50k pm depending on location), get a few publications done, then bide time for a year or so when the recruitment for permanent faculty happens apply.

publication is required, get your supervisor to co-author with you, scopus only

Sorry for this depressing topic, but i’ve been thinking about this a lot, after the sad news of two more tragic deaths of Jindal students a couple of days ago.

Although these deaths are no doubt very sad, you will see that across law school batches past and present there are premature deaths, whether in college or after graduation. Just speak to people from Gen X to Gen Z. Almost everyone has a batchmate who is no more. Some had cancer, some had a heart attack because of work stress, some had COVID, some were in an accident, some took their own life. Even if you look at it mathematically, in a batch of 100 students there is a reasonable chance one person may die before reaching 40/45 years, or even 25 years. Sounds terrible, but it’s perhaps true?

So I was just thinking about these people who left the world too soon. Do you know any of them? Do you remember them? Does your college have medals and competitions in their name? How were they as people? Smart? Funny? Introverted? Troubled? Sad? I mean, we barely even remember COVID! Do we remember our friends who died of it?

Sorry, but just thinking about this a lot today.

If there are two universities A and B, wherein A (from an INI) has a lower qualifying requirement compared to B (from a non-INI), then it means the following:

> The receiving university (in this case a UK university) would like to accept more students from A because it is an INI and the UK university knows that INI status is given by the GoI to "better" universities.

> The UK university knows that A with 65% from an INI is as good or better than B with 70% from a non-INI

> The UK university believes that the non-INI where B comes from, may also indulge in grade inflation and its scores may not be so reliable.

And finally, as someone commented already, if NLUs loathe the INIs so much then why are they so desperate for the same status?

Are there any purely public international law teachers ? Most of them I know are into International investment law or international environmental law. But what about professors that are into core public international law subjects like international organisations, international criminal law, international humanitarian law etc. the only one I know are the likes of Atul Alexander, NUJS. Anyone else ?

None that I can think of. Unfortunately NLUs don't have pure international law teachers. Most of them are either into environmental law or corporate or investment law in international perspective. A purely international law teacher would be in international organisations, international criminal law, international humanitarian law etc, which is hard to find.

Partner Promotions 2024

Record women. With majority of partner Promotions going to women.

Trilegal - 7/11 Partners are women

AZB & Partners - 3/5 Partners are women

Phoenix Legal - 3/3 Partners are women

ALMT - 1/1 Partners are women

Anagram Legal - 1/1 Partners are women

This is great news. More women partners also means better work life balance in Trilegal. If these many women have sticked with the firm so long there must be work life balance and good culture. Otherwise they would have left for smaller firms or in house jobs to start a family.

Hey OP! All the best for the interview and incase I am late for that, I hope it went well.

Bharucha had approached the RCC at my law school in late November last year, looking to hire an Associate for the Practice Development vertical. The remuneration schedule was as follows:

Delhi - 10.2 + 1.

Bangalore - 10.2 + 1.

Mumbai - 12 + 1.

I hope this helps!