Unconstitutional. Reservations based on sex must be authorized by a constitutional amendment. In any case, reservations are not a fundamental right per an SC judgment, so you cannot require the state to provide reservations. The power to give reservations is permissive, not mandatory.

Very pertinent question. I've always wondered who bears the burden of these unemployed disillusioned upsc wallahs? Is it the society? Are these people in their late 20s living off their parents? Given India's limited opportunity to reap the benefits of demographic dividend, there needs to be a serious nuanced debate on the large socio economic implications of this colonial hangover

Get real!

Before fantasizing about internships at Tier 1 or Tier 2 firms in your second year, consider that no Tier 1 or Tier 2 firm will accept an intern from VSLLS without a contact within the firm.

I suggest focusing on writing research papers and attempting CLAT/AILET exam again.

To be honest they don't look foreign or out of India ancestry, but they are definitely generally taller and fairer than others. They don't look Caucasian or Middle eastern in any angle, I would say they look better than europeans and arabs haha. I am a pathan in UP, and I look pretty different from locals because of my fair skin and grey eyes, so people keep asking me if I am a Jaat because although Pathans are present in large numbers In India they live a bit isolated from other communities.

Tujhe kya dikkat? Everyone has their own problems. Not everyone has connections or colleges that provide internships. Not everyone has the means to go to Delhi. Not everyone has the means to even go to the local court. If you had worked a day in your life at DC, you'd know how arrogant majority lawyers are that they wouldn't teach you anything and just hand you a certificate.

Many colleges do. Check your local state University. Majority DAVs provide law degrees without a hassle.

The point of doing that is people who want to litigate join court instead of going to class, I've seen plenty of them clerking and learning more than the average law student. Those that want to join judiciary would be attending coaching classes, and those who want to prepare of a govt exam do that.

Mandatory attendance for law colleges is a scam. You will learn more in court than in class. Instead focus should be on mandatory attendance under a district court lawyer for students.

They aren't. Take the example of Nordic countries, where women don't face socio economic "interferences" in their choices. In such countries as well majority of women choose careers in non corporate, non science fields. It seems to suggest that women, from an evolutionary standpoint, are more geared towards care giving, non-confrontational roles [teachers, nurses, mother's, etc] which unfortunately, don't make wealth. Wokeism won't change biology and all differences (including the pay gap between men and women) aren't due to discrimination.

I am currently pursing my BBA LL.B. from VSLLS affiliated with IP University. I know my college is not as prestigious as any other NLU. If we talk about grades, I screwed up in my exams as the only exams I gave since 9th was the 12th Boards exam and CLAT(because of covid and some other stuff) and I was not in a habit of giving any exams. But I can't use that excuse anymore in second year. The main issue is that I am confused. I don't know how to make myself look worthy enough for a job at tier 1 law firm. Should I write research papers? Or should I do internships at tier 1 or 2 law firms? Or should I top the university exams? I am confused. I cannot do internships during the semester becasuse our college is very strict when it comes to attendance. My main goal is to start my own practice but before doing that I want to make sure I am worthy enough of joining any tier 1 law firm. What should I do that makes me stand out?

This thread randomly propped up on my feed somehow a while back, but I was pressed for time back then and couldn't respond to it, but thought about it, and am doing so now.

As someone who has read for a three year LLB in England at a Russell Group law school that isn't Oxford or Cambridge and who will begin an LLM in the UK this September, and who aspires to become an academic there (but who has explored both the solicitor and barrister career options), I can tell you that Sudhir seems to have the right ideas. For you to interpret him as saying 'don't focus on skills' or 'the best universities in the world don't focus on skills' is deeply problematic, because that's not what he (or frankly any head of a reputable law school here (usually distinguished by the 'Russell Group' tag)) is saying. The British are very clear about where skills fit in. A university education gives you some basic knowledge. The gaining of the knowledge happens in a problem-based environment where you apply yourself to problems, which helps you begin to develop certain skills. A good university doesn't try to turn out a finished product to the law firms or chambers, because law firms (and barristers' chambers, for that matter) are clear that that's not what they want; without blowing my own trumpet too much, I have been to a good university and spoken to recruiters from both branches of the profession, so am telling you this from personal experience. A good trainee solicitor or pupil barrister is someone who has strong conceptual knowledge and a toolkit of basic skills, which a law firm (in the case of a TC) or a chambers (in the case of a pupillage) will hone and add to during the training period, by getting that trainee/pupil to 'learn on the job'. The 'learning-on-the-job' process cannot happen until and unless the trainee or pupil has the basics right. Just like in Maths, you can't learn Calculus without learning addition or subtraction, similarly, according to the British way of thinking, you have to undertake three steps of learning, in a specific order: a qualifying law degree (or a non-law degree and a Postgraduate Diploma in Law, if you prefer), which teaches you the ABC's, the vocational component of solicitor or barrister training (which teaches you the basics of everyday practice grind) and the work-based component of solicitor or barrister qualification (a pupillage in the case of a barrister, and a TC in the case of a solicitor), which helps you to learn, in a problem-based environment where you apply yourself to problems, as you would have done at university or bar school/in solicitor training, the uk lawyer's equivalent of calculus.

To bust some myths here, if you think all we do at your typical British law school is to have seminar/tutorial discussions and write essays, that is absolutely not the case. Most UK law schools have law clinics, similar to their U.S. and Indian counterparts, where we do exactly what Sudhir is saying: focus, to the extent needed, on the 'craft' (to use his word) we would need as practitioners. Some universities, like QM, for example, have partnerships with law firms where selected students, after two years of study, paralegal at one of their uni's partner firms for a year and come back after the year to complete their final year of study. But do the firms consider people with such experience as finished products? No! They still offer them TC's, not jobs as newly qualified (NQ) solicitors, because they are clear that learning still needs to happen. This is, as Sudhir said, to give upcoming lawyers preparation for problems later in life that we just can't imagine in this day-and-age.

What this should show is that Sudhir (and heads of UK law schools) is (are) saying (correctly in my view) from his experience in Britain's NLSIU that the way the conversation about skills and the rhetoric about it is going in India displays confusion and a surprising (and disturbing) lack of clarity about what a university's place in the larger scheme of things is. I would really, therefore, advise you to think a lot more carefully, before attempting to use what the UK does (or at least the reputable law schools here do) as a justification in favour of an argument against Sudhir's views on this, because the British legal profession (universities/training providers, firms/chambers and regulators) are, and have been, very clear for some considerable time about what is what. Sudhir, even granting he may have other faults to which I can't speak because I don't know him, has got this right, and is trying to bring that same level of clarity to the discourse on skills in Indian legal education. True, while his understanding of what legal education requires is different from the British one to the extent that most UK law degrees have little to no component of non-law study, unlike at his institution, his thinking is much more aligned with the law faculty deans of an Oxford, UCL, LSE-type place than many might believe (or like to believe). If I were you, I'd listen to him, and maybe even take on board some of what he has to say; if you don't like it, that's your concern. And I certainly wouldn't abuse him anonymously. While I have defended him that way here, to be clear, if somebody asks, I would be more than happy to put my name to this, and give you a LinkedIn profile so you know who I am, but I know that doing this outright would not make our mods very happy. If you've made it this far, thanks for reading!

Why do you think so much and so negatively. It’s a single bloody failed exam. Who cares? I can tell you in the real world, none of us give a shit. Stop being so trepidatious and live your life boldly and do what you want. I partied with my buddies at graduation and thereafter even though I didn’t have a job at the time.

Just come clean with the potential employers. Choose whoever reacts positively. You have put yourself in a pickle but it's not like they won't understand if you explain it to them. Ask them if you can work as a trainee until the next bar. I am guessing the corporate firm will be more open to this idea since a bar id is not an immediate need for them, as against a litigation chamber where you pretty much cannot work without enrolling with the bar. Good luck!

As a lawyer, the exposure you get from working at big-4s is nothing compared to what you get in T-1/T-2 law firm. Law firms are skeptical of job candidates with experience at big4 only. However, big4 would hire T1 candidates with relative ease.

Corporate ladder is in favour of T1s. In any case, big4 has more international recognition and work life balance.

https://www.barandbench.com/news/calcutta-high-court-1-per-cent-reservation-transgender-persons-public-employment

How many more quotas do we need? Also, how is it possible to say who is trans? Is anyone who identifies as the opposite sex trans? Or do you have to undergo gender reassignment surgery?

You seem to be a particularly ignorant troll. First of all, there has not been any layoff whatsoever at NUJS, God only knows what you meant by that. I suggest you brush up your knowledge of labour law. Secondly, throughout the history of NUJS and GNLU, the former has had better faculty than the latter and that's true even today. Which well known faculty even teaches at GNLU?

As for your political comment, that's so ludicrous as to be almost tragic. BJP has been in power over the last decade in centre and for almost three decades in Gujarat. What has GNLU achieved because of that? By that sham logic, you'll claim GNLU is better than NLSIU, because Congress is in power in Karnataka. Keep the trolling and Bhakti to yourself. As a city, everyone in their right mind will still pick Kolkata over Gandhinagar, even in its decline Kolkata is a hundred times better place to live in.

hi, i think getting assessed for neurodivergence at some point would be really helpful for you perhaps? either ways just simply starting therapy, getting professional help should help. tons of psychologists/psychiatrists etc., do pro bono work if budget is an issue whatsoever. take care! this will pass too 🌷

I am an upcoming A0 corporate woman at a boutique corporate law firm. Apart from doing my work, I was thinking of increasing my academic credentials. Out of the three (3) above, as mentioned, which one should I opt for? All 3 are online + corporate related + have good reputations. I might want to pursue PhD in the future. So, please guide/advise accordingly.

Exact opposite situation as you mate. Final sem CLC, aced all my exams with 60+ every sem but at the cost of shitting the bed in all my internships. I have a grand total of zero job offers and extremely anxious about what the heck to do after graduation.

Coming to your issue I have heard that law fac holds fifth sem repeat exams after the sixth sem. Try and see if you can give improvement then. If not then try talking with your HR/advocate and say that your exam results are delayed due to some admin issue or something. Knowing du, it's not unbelievable.

I think the biggest lesson you must have learnt from your journey is knowing when to quit. It's appalling people waste their youth over an exam with a negligible selection rate. You should never put all your eggs in one basket especially when it comes to stuff like UPSC. All I can say is find a job just any job to make you stand on your feet. You have the NLU tag in your favour so it should not be impossible.

I am a jobless fresher. I don't have a godfather or any law firms lining up to hand me jobs. I struggled to get internships during law school and its been long since I missed that boat. It's not a desirable position to be in but I don't have any options left. Either I can rot at home or get a job to get me started. Why do you think LPO's would ruin my career? What else would you do in my situation

If there are any subsequent further vacancies in the NRI seats then according to the rank list of candidates validly applied for it, the college will directly mail them or call them over phone should the need be in the next few days. So always be careful and ready to check it at all times as it can be very unexpected and do check the spam of your mailbox which you had registered to the college as there have been some instances where candidates missed it out. People do drop out of the counselling but it would not go beyond 1300s rank. Good Luck with your attempt!

How does one exactly start looking for jobs as a fresher? How does one gauge where to apply and how does one figure out the vacancy? I am yet to start my process and I am super super nervous and clueless. Do I approach people on linkedin? HR from the firms almost never reply so what’s the best way to get in touch with potential recruiters?

Very honestly speaking many people have a pre-conceived notion that these NRI people are arrogant, narcissists, egoistic and judgmental. So, the others do oppose or not talk to them and will try to isolate and exclude them. This causes a reverse discrimination system where the downtrodden badmouths the elites. But there were many honest and great NRIs that people said existed in such law schools. I don't know if it's due to this stereotyping and yes keyboard warriors are everywhere now-a-days.

GNLU is far superior than NUJS in the current scenario.

NUJS is being plagued with many academical and administrative issues such as the VC PoSH with a senior professor fiasco, there are many layoffs and not much great faculty is teaching in NUJS whereas GNLU is hiring better ones if not world-class and given the support and funding GNLU is far poised to rise in the current times. Given BJP is in power for the 2024-29 term, it would ideally benefit for your study in GNLU for the simple reason backing and power. Kolkata is a mess and a degrading city with the dirty politics being played with NUJS.

For NRI-S seat opt for GNLU than NUJS, a little pinch of extra fees may hit but would be worth every penny.

Hi everyone,

I am from a decent law college in Mumbai with a handful of litigation and arbitration internships. I don't wish to pursue independent practice but love disputes in the firm. How and when should I apply to law firms ? Any firm offering upto 50k is enough for me for starters. Any leads ?

I am from a Tier 2 NLU and am currently interning at a Tier 1 firm in Delhi. I am doing my best and even associates and partner seems to be happy with my work.

Is there any chance for a call-back internship? Like how often do Tier 1 firms offer this?

Moreover considering I may grab a call-back, by when will they communicate the same considering my internship ends at the end of June?

The Indian cricket team will not reach last four this time. The teams that will beat them WI, AUS, ENG, NZ. The pathetic performance of the team, is duevto BCCI failure and favouratism of certain players. High time the team should be overhauled, with good players instead of fakes with high TRP.

I am a 2020 passout of a Tier 2 NLU. I started preparing after college, didn't take up any job, or join practice. I gave my soul and heart to UPSC CSE preperation, but despite of clearing prelims 2 times, I could not clear the Mains. I have already exhausted 4 attempts. Now, I can't prepare full time (my mental health is not permitting). Some times, I feel like despite of being from an NLU I am failing in this exam, that means I am dumb. Is there any one else, like me who also has failed to qualify, or am I specially unsuitable for this exam?

You will be safe if you are precautious enough. Just beware of your surroundings and try not to venture out or travel alone really late after midnight. Metro is largely safe if you travel in women’s coach. Cabs are also safe. Always appear confident and maybe even try to maintain a resting bitch face. Creepy men do get intimidated if they feel that you’re not going stay silent if harassed and it also helps in avoiding any unwanted attention from men trying to be over-friendly. At the end of the day you’re a law student, you know your rights and the laws. Don’t stay silent if you feel uncomfortable in any situation, make noise, approach the nearest authority and alert the nearby public.

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I totally agree. I have seen my fellow lawyers brag endlessly about the work they have been getting when in reality they dont do shit. They have 10% of the work they have been bragging about. I am not one to call them out because its an utter waste of time when the other person is not going to accept it. Lawyers are always pretending to know stuff they have no idea about. And they do it with such conviction. Do it in court and you are the hero- but the problem is that they adopt this trait outside courtrooms in Offices and casual conversations which is toxic af. I am a oracticing advocate - fairly new to this profession - but can say it whole heartedly that this is a nauseating profession