Yes brother you study in the best place ever. Is it NLUD or some HARVARD? Read the email sent by Cultural Committee particularly the second line accepting lack of personal interaction within the university campus. I really dislike sharing this place with students like you just glorifying the University because we were able to excel this MCQ examination. Start looking at broader picture and bigger life.

All these activities of painting and games night, where was this? Took so much of time to understand what the hollow place lacks? VC seems to be the most stupid of all. Some Profs are really making efforts.

Read any book on Modern history...

And do read and understand the concept of any law, like family law which you have read in the first semester...

If you want to do better in your studies then try to read Jurisprudence book. That will help you understand the lagal things in better ways.

You can watch the Manchester debate union playlist. It’s pretty good for starters. There’s a plethora of resources out there but all of that will confuse you so this should be good.

You can also check sessions hosted by Indian debsocs. They will be easier to understand as you have familiarity with the style of speaking.

Some of those are Glc Deb lit soc YouTube channel

English debating society sbsc

One of the first videos that got me interested was super shiny principled arguments by Ashish Kumar

Very fun video

For rules, search wudc bp manual

Indian corporate management is horrible. We are legitimately renowned for promotion based on metrics such as experience rather than promoting individuals showcasing leadership traits and management skills which has created a universally toxic environment in pretty much every corporate. Foreign firms in India do it so much better, when will Indian firms follow suit....

Hi folks

I need some advice. I'm interning at a T-3 firm and today on my 1st day I was assigned nothing substantial except for bitchwork like finding guidelines on something or circulars. Now, I have done my fair share of this in my previous internships, but this was interspersed with substantial research prompt giving and legal research which was stimulating and interesting to work on. But this experience has left a bad taste. Are all law firms like this? I'm concerned that if I do nothing in this internship I will end up not getting a better internship for the next cycle. I need help, I am also thinking that maybe it is the practice area that I chosen which is at fault. Please advice on the next steps I should take.

Please don't post about up or downvotes, lack thereof, etc, it's boring and not interesting and therefore should be moderated as trollish and not published (check the community guidelines: https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/387617-legally-india-community-moderation-guidelines )

I wont get into courts vs corp but I need to say this, regardless of your parent's post, being a second generation lawyer helps and I don't mean to disregard your struggles or challenges you have faced by you don't sound like person who could call yourself a 'first generation lawyer' after saying things like 'my mom did law' and 'she gave me a few cases'

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I know my friend who practices at civil court lucknow gets paid around 15-20k, also he ensures clients pay my friend for miscellaneous work. He makes 30-35k from the chamber at a tier 2 city like lucknow.His senior is one of the biggest lawyers of civil court and makes a modest 50-60 lakh per annum. My senior who practices at lucknow bench makes similar amount but pays me nothing.

Fair enough, hope some of the responses in this thread may have given useful inputs or pointers or support, and you or others will find some avenue to redress your grievances. Unfortunately naming names in such context is against our community guidelines though, since it is not reasonably possible for moderators to verify allegations made: https://www.legallyindia.com/convos/topic/387617-legally-india-community-moderation-guidelines

Hi, so here is the blue print for switching practice areas in our field of law,

The primary factor would depend as to what is your PQE, usually changing of the practice areas isn't difficult for the first three years of the profession, the sooner you change the better it is preferably do it by the end of the first year.

Now when you are formulating your CV, draft the same in such a manner that includes the work oriented towards GC Role and then start applying to as many places as you can. Remember the chances of getting through is not that easy specifically when you are switching practice considering the firm usually require someone experienced so get ready for the rejections that might come in the way and simultaneously applying to other places. Usually the chances of getting through depends upon as to how desperately the team is looking to hire resources. Apply to Tier 2 firms also as chances of switching to different practice is more in that case scenario (assuming you are from NLU and Tier 1 Law firm)

I didn't expected to be cross examined for this but there are numerous female juniors at the chamber and a lot of them have been at one point were harassed by the associates and even by my senior's husband. So I'm not the only one who complained about it to her and she has repeatedly tried to brush it off. So I took my chances by posting it here so they won't be able to guess my identity. Do you want anything else? Looks like a session of recording of evidence to me. Leave it just delete the post.

This would be a workable idea. Find a lawyer who can make a public statement or social media post on your behalf, in their own name, without revealing your name. At that point it would be easier for other publications to cover it.

This platform is meant for advice to lawyers and students, it is not workable as a #metoo outing forum.

There is no way for us to verify the veracity of an anonymous allegation on this platform, and you yourself have posted that you're worried about repercussions.

If you were to name names, as you did in your original post, then this would clearly identify you and make it known to your senior that you wrote the post. Would you not be worried in this case about repercussions, as you had originally posted?

As a lawyer, you want a CEO of a private company to be arrested because (allegedly) he sold/reserved tickets of a concert for few people and because those tickets were not made available for general public it resulted in all hue and cry.

Is this what we (as professionals) are asking?

Can someone translate this into English please? I am a blind person. I have pointed out before that people are making their content (posts and comments) inaccessible when they do this on Legally India - writing Hindi content using English letters. Either write in English or in Hindi using a Hindi keyboard (newsflash: changing your keyboard language settings isn't hard). Screen reader software packages that blind and partially sighted people use read this kind of stuff in a completely nonsensical and 'scrambled' way. A translation, therefore, would be very useful indeed.

It baffles me to see first, “no benefit” then “only benefit”, then one more benefit of “few cases”. Not that first gen individuals cannot succeed, but the shear lack of acknowledgement of privilege and inherent contradictions in the statement prove why there is a difference between second gen and first gen. Neither first gen students come with contacts with chambers and firms nor they have privilege of someone passing on his/her business to them. They need to work for very things you got on platter, especially those who are introverts and not good at networking. Nothing wrong with it as long as you are able to recognize your privilege before passing on your words of wisdom to others.

Meanwhile, Rakesh Dwivedi stepped in for Sibal and Menaka G was silent yet again. Just cannot fathom what the strategy is to bring a high-profile NLSIU-Oxford-TIME 100 Senior Advocate if she is not going to say anything? 🤷

https://www.telegraphindia.com/west-bengal/rg-kar-case-claim-and-counter-claim-in-supreme-court-over-service-resumption-by-junior-docs/cid/2052041

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/india/rg-kar-case-substantial-leads-in-cbi-investigation-says-supreme-court/articleshow/113827483.cms?from=mdr

Khaitan Delhi (Litigation) is a vibe.

It feels like a sarkaari daftar which doesn't start before 11:30 a.m. and has samosas in the evening. Good work life balance and chill life - you can go chill with your fam and be happy that you walk back with a Tier 1 salary! Can easily give AZB and Trilegal litigations peeps serious complex lol

Hello lovelies,

It's that time of year where bonuses are near (for some of us), and splurging is expected (nah, encouraged). Do share what your peers/seniors/juniors/clients are up to this festive season. Can be the aspirational, the cringe, the chindi, and the genuinely sweet.

I can start: T1/M&A team in Bombay, the recently minted PA seems to have picked up an entry level Rolex and keeps trying to use it as a conversation starter. Except he was flexing to a young lady associate from another team and didn't know that her dad a member of the promoter family of a listed business. She was wearing a month's salary worth of accessories but this parvenu PA couldn't tell. But credit to the associate, she was classy and polite and humoured the poor guy!

Please leave more fun, gossipy anecdotes in the comments.

TOODLES.

The problem with this "can I know waat is salary" approach to becoming a law student is that it is just a gamble. Don't you see the number of posts where people are desperate for internships and assessments? You'd rather do something you're interested in or good at to make money than try and squeeze into an already crowded space with luck driving your success.

I agree. They announced for A0s that they will be getting revised salary just to flaunt during the induction, and they started paying them the revised salaries from August itself.

For all others, we are still left with the same old Salaries. Especially A1s and many A2s whose Salaries are still lesser than A0s.

They try to justify all of this by saying, you'll be paid in arrears. But what about the earnings lost on that income had I invested it back then.

"Access to a senior advocate's chamber...once I became independent, my mom only provided me a few cases.." do you even hear yourself ? Such an entitled prick. Majority of people don't even get internships to an advocate's chamber let alone access. Most don't even get their first case till a few years. Stop being a whiny entitled brat. Moreover it's people like you that have pigeonholed the whole system and worthy young advocates have to now move to corporate cause your mom and dad's are handing you cases like candy even when you legal accumen and ethics were left in your senior advocate's chamber.

He was 42 years old, so Gen Y and not Gen Z. This is not a Gen Z problem, this is a universal problem of toxic behaviour from bosses. The root cause is that there are limited jobs in India, because of massive overpopulation and a pace of economic growth that is not good enough to create jobs for all. So employers feel they can exploit employees.

https://www.news18.com/viral/bajaj-finance-manager-dies-by-suicide-due-to-work-pressure-not-slept-for-45-days-9069441.html

That’s how all mentorship happens. Stuff like that can’t get handed to people and even if the university sets up “official” mentors - that scheme is unlikely to work unless students take initiative and approach professors and ask for things. It simply cannot be their job to seek you out and make you interested in doing things they can help you with.

If you’re too inhibited or entitled to approach senior professors who might significantly help your career - you might not get far in academia. Asking for help is a big important skill.

I’ve been mentored by some top professors at nls. I had to approach them and prove to them It was worth it to invest time and money in me. It wasn’t hard but it was absolutely the best decision I made career wise.

My IV Semester exams will end on April 2025. May will be an internship break and I am not even sure where I should intern in Delhi.

Any suggestions? I like litigation so AOR filing offices, places where I get plenty of work and maybe a little cha-ching (unlikely) would be really appreciated.

I have a fairly decent CV, batch rank and internship experience in my NLU but I'm sad its a T3 one.

A lot of very talented people from MIDS have landed at Khaitan junior and mid level and SAM Partner level (Shreya Gupta and Shruti Sabharwal). Abhileen is at CAM Mumbai and Priyanka Shetty is at AZB. MIDS alumni slaying it everywhere in India and for good reason!! The brand will (and should) stay forever.

A know of a small coterie of parsi lawyers who are great (undesignated) criminal lawyers - Mr. Firoz Wadia, Sheena Mehta, A. M. Hizruboy, several more. They are mostly trial attorneys, so if you're looking for those that practice crim in HC then you should look for seniors like Memon etc.

Does anyone know when they're going to announce ABS shortlists for this year? Considering that the winners have to be announced on Nov 9 as per their website, I'd assume interviews have to conducted within the 2nd and 3rd week of October. It's surprising that the shortlists aren't out yet given the amount of logistics they'll have to figure out.

bhai its their choice, they just dont want to experience the real feel of practising law like yo do and they have chosen something else for themselves which is a deeply personal choice. They are not wasting their cognitive energy in doing something negative like pitying people they dont even know

Anytime anything happens, NLUD peeps start defending the college as if the place is non toxic. People only prioritise Marks, Attendance, Career and Project submission deadlines. How often do authorities care here is something we all know. Grow up toxic kids, Grow up beyond Academics.

The 3rd year girl had already written a whole letter of narratives at NLUD. Now just defend it. People are not ready to accept the hollowness, This place has. Only MEDIA hype.