Do it. Youve found someone youve been with for 6 years and want to be with for many more. Whatever opportunities life throws at you- grow with each other and accomodate each other. Its extremely difficult to form emotional attachments as you grow older and even harder to deal with all the baggage the other person might be bringing in. Best to marry young and stay married.

NUJS>GNLU>NLUJ>NLIU. In all honesty, there is barely any difference between NLUJ/GNLU/NLIU. The placements are slightly better in GNLU, but then the other two colleges have less number of students. NUJS is though fairly better, it still falls in the trifecta of the Big 3 NLUs-NLS, NALSAR and NUJS. So choose NUJS.

Bhai, I am from GNLU, and I would request you to consider NUJS. It's not that GNLU isn't a good university, it's just that NUJS is better. As a law student, there are only two parameters that should matter to you (1) Placements and (2) Faculty. In both the parameters NUJS is better than us. GNLU has a beautiful campus and a very chill environment, but I would still prefer NUJS over GNLU. Best of luck

Gujarat is a peaceful place only if you are an upper-caste, Hindu, cisgender male. Please be real! They don't even rent out properties to Muslims, queer people, or those belonging to lower castes. I spent 10 years in Ahmedabad, living in one of the posh areas of the city, and yet I’ve had people ask me about my caste and other such nonsense. Kolkata, on the other hand, is a much better choice.

Kid, firstly, it’s good that you’re really passionate about law.

As someone who was in your shoes not too long ago- I understand where you’re coming from. I took CLAT twice, and got a rank good enough to get into a Tier 2 NLU, my parents insisted that I go to a pvt uni instead. I am extremely privileged that way, I’ll admit.

But at that point, I felt that I was good for nothing if I didn’t get into T5 NLUs. As someone in their penultimate year with adequate mooting experience, internship experience and generally as someone doing academically decent, I’d like to tell you, except for the fees and infrastructure theres basically no difference between your education in an NLU and some pvt unis.

It really really doesn’t matter in the long run. You are no different from any NLU kid, however smart you or they think they are.

Piece of advice- at this point in your life you may not know what corporate law actually is. What you like right now may be commercial law- give it a few semesters: actually go to law school and make your decision.

Do not base your self worth off of precedents of people who have done well.

You will do extremely well yourself. Good luck!

LI used to be a place where people could discuss pay and salaries in chambers and firms and understand what the work environment was in a particular place. Was of great use to someone who would want to switch jobs. Slowly it degraded into becoming a dick-waving arena for cringey NLU students and now it has just become a forum to bash wokeness and discuss politics. Unfortunate.

Ketan is very chill, extremely supportive and insanely talented. However, has a small team, and not a lot of work. Their hiring is also erratic apparently. The RE team is paid less, and non t1 nlus are also paid less. pay disparity is the main reason behind people leaving. saraf needs to stop this, and take deserving people

Good point re the clown emoji 🤡. It is now used almost entirely by Republicans and right-wingers to mock liberals. This emoji is also problematic because the clown is quite evil-looking and it might be some sort of homage to the Joker. That’s really offensive because the Joker is a violent, misogynistic character. Whether it’s the Jared Leto version in Suicide Squad or Joaquin Phoenix.

Just sharing what he said. This was during a lunch meeting. He was saying that his employees in their early 20s are very entitled. They don’t want to stay in office after 6, even if that means missing a deadline. He said that they don’t want to do any boring work. Suppose you give them good work and then some boring task in between (like arranging folders or sorting our records) they will refuse to do it and say that it should be done by an intern. He also said that his mangers can’t scold them or rebuke them, as they will then complain that it’s triggering to their mental health and escalate things to the HR head and sometimes even CEO level. He said that this is now the situation across corporate India.

Again, just sharing what this CEO said. Retweets are not endorsements! 🙂

YOU'D BE A FOOL TO NOT CHOOSE NUJS. I have 4 reasons for this. (I want to clarify, i am NOT. astudent/alumni of nujs)

1. Culture- they have an excellent senior-junior support system, which helps tremendously in moots/comps/internship opportunities/research etc. Seniors often go out of their way to help their juniors.

2. Alumni- They have an amazing and successful alumni base (i dont even need to elaborate on this)

3. Recognition- Despite what one says, all t1s in India, and multiple magic circle firms recognize nujs as a top tier institution. They prefer nujs students, and have slots for them (can't say that about the other colleges you mentioned barring lets say nluj)

4. Academics- nujs fac is decent, and academics rigorous enough to ensure you come out of nujs a good lawyer, but not so stressful that it kills you

so please do yourself a favour and choose nujs

Hello Guys!

I have an internship lined up with a T1 in Delhi in the next couple of months. I selected my preferred practice area while fulfilling the obligation with the HR.

However, I was wondering if I could call the HR to assign me a particular team/partner that I want to work under or will that be out of the norm?

I have also interacted with the PA of the said team and partner in person before so I believe I might have better luck securing a callback or a PPO during the course of the internship.

Any advice is appreciated!

Moved to Mumbai 3-4 months ago. I've matched with a lot of girls but I believe a lot of them are law students 2-3 years older. Do firms care if their associates date younger girls? Does it being any scrutiny from the firms? How do associates make sure their dating profiles are lowkey and don't get discussed? Or is it normal to discuss dating life in law firm circles?

Hii,

I just cleared Clat 2025 ug and most probably I will be getting mnlu Mumbai. What do you think should I consider it ? The college doesn’t have its own campus and the new campus is just on papers. The hostel also shifted to Kanjurmarg/Chandivali with triple sharing. Considering all of this is it worth it ? Please need you point of view.

In law firms' recruitment circle: SAM, CAM, AZB, KCO, Trilegal are considered as tier 1 firms. Shifting amongst these will not result in any discounting of experience or salary.

However, if you come from any other firm, even JSA, Argus or Saraf, you're likely to take a hit on the CTC or position (if you're not incredibly talented).

Should we be hosting such live shows, charging thousands of rupees for tickets, when the infra is so bad???

https://www.indiatoday.in/music/story/diljit-dosanjh-says-no-more-concerts-india-lack-live-show-infrastructure-dil-luminati-chandigarh-concert-2650424-2024-12-16

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/technology/social/diabetic-man-tags-zomato-ceo-deepinder-goyal-over-lack-of-toilets-at-bryan-adams-concert-i-paid-to-pee-in-my-pants-/articleshow/116369811.cms

They thought if Lalaji pays less tax, Lalaji will increase the salary of his employees. Who's going to tell them? 🤡

https://indianexpress.com/article/business/concern-in-govt-private-sector-profit-at-15-year-high-but-salaries-stagnant-9719816/

A hearing took place on 5 Dec. Akhil Sibal and Jawhar Raja represented Liang, versus two much younger lawyers for the other side -- Ruchira Goel for the survivor (2009 NALSAR-NYU grad and former JGLS faculty) and Hardik Rupal for AUD (2018 JGLS grad). The counter affidavit of the survivor was accepted, while the counter affidavit of AUD is pending. Next hearing date: 1 April.

Current status: 6 years and 8 months. 16 hearings. Still at stage of filing submissions and affidavits.

https://dhcappl.nic.in/dhcorderportal/GetOrder.do?ID=svn/2024/100025571733480777256_6839_34352018.pdf

Another way of looking at it is that whenever you get married you'll have those obligation and responsibilities. When you are relatively senior, you'll always be accountable to partners and clients and the wedding preps and other stuff will be harder. Do it right now if you're sure of the person as they'll be a pillar of strength for you to achieve what you want over time and you'll also get some time before pressure of having kids.

One possible reason you may want to put it off for now is if you are in a T1, and if you may be able to save up substantially in a couple of years, it will take care of some part of the expenditure.

I am a fresher working at an ed-tech company. The salary is decent given the market (10 LPA fixed) but I want to work at a law firm so that I could earn good money, gain valuable exposure and then go abroad to study and settle.

For some context, the work in the company is quite interesting with plenty of exposure to company restructuring, contracts and funding transactions. However, I would prefer to eventually transition to a law firm team focused on M&A. I graduated with good co-curriculars and an above average CGPA.

So, I have a few questions:

1. 1. Is this the right time for me to switch?
2. 2. How likely is it that I can get into a Tier 1 law firm?
3. 3. Are there any better-paying in-house roles that could serve as a stepping stone to a law firm transition?

I am so sorry for being that person but

1) how is corp law the "only" law that excites you when you've just joined University and have neither read corp or any other law for that matter. It's like saying you only like Chicago when your passport is yet to come.

2) let's say you somehow read all you had to before college. Tbe laws regarding corporations are the only thing that made your mind tickle?

P.S: I've met really amazing people from Non-NLUs yiull

But.. but.. but..

Why doesn't "Self" Made_Second-Gen know the answer to this already?

This individual is a troll, who ordinarily makes up scenarios aiming to gain traction, and talks people down owing to not javing any valid points.

One simply cannot trust such an individual.

The SelfMade_Second-Gen who cried 'Wolf'

Hi Fellow Professionals,

I am a corporate lawyer with around 16 years of experience. After working with a few top tier law firms, I went independent around 7 years back. I have a decent practice with average annual fee revenues in the range of INR 1.25 cr to 1.5 cr.

Things are generally fine, but sometimes I miss being part of the so called 'law -firm lawyers circle/ network. I would love know from folks in similar situation if they also have similar thoughts? Should I consider associating with a law firm (though I love my freedom and flexibility)?

Are there any such law-firms which might want to absorb professionals like me on my terms?

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Presently an A1 at a small firm. Have been considering an LLM for a while now (just because I want an LLM. I do not see it as a ticket to get anywhere). However, UK and US are way too costly for me to be able to afford it at the moment, even with the 5000 GBP/Dollar scholarship that they award.

Was looking around and came across the MEXT Scholarship. I was only aware of the YLP being specific to lawyers but had no idea that MEXT also included LLM.

Just wanted to know if anyone here has any idea/has been a MEXT candidate - how the process is, the local language requirements pre and post exam, and the experience in Japan.

My friends and I are incredibly unhappy and exhausted at law firms with no boundaries, horrible teams, and work 24x7 including weekends. We need to exit right now. Does anybody know any good in-house legal team that's hiring and pays around 10 lpa? Looking for companies like ITC, HUL, ICICI and similar banks etc. but really any company with a good work environment and healthy work life balance would do. Would be grateful for any leads since you'll be helping us a lot here. Thanks so much!

With the random introduction of the. BSc course at NUJS (to no fault of the students in the course; allow me to clarify, my irate post is about the course, not the students, who found an opportunity to get into a good NLU and took it), the VC introduced it as a forensic-legal course for minds interested in that field, now suddenly the Bo28 kids say that the admin/CRC wants a joint rpc, and these kids will also have one common day z and corporate placements? From what I gather, courses are completely different, and GPAs aren't comparable; how are recruiters supposed to distinguish and what about internship opportunities? I would love to hear from recruiters, students and other colleges What do you think?

There are solid professors still there. Vasanthi, Neha Pathakji, Vidyulatha. And some good young people including Nalsar alums. Everything isn't about superstars. This core is important for institutions to survive. Superstars will come and go because they have lots of opportunities.

https://www.newindianexpress.com/states/odisha/2024/Dec/16/nfsu-campus-cfsl-to-boost-odisha-polices-crime-investigation-capabilities

In addition to the large central government (MHA) funding, NFSU also benefits from the state governments through land and other financial resources. State governments are scrambling to have an NFSU campus in their respective states. In contrast, state governments are indifferent towards or ignoring their NLUs.

Lots of patriarchal and misogynistic comments by toxic, right-wing guys here. Disgusting. Yes, maybe there are a few girls who misuse laws but please don’t forget the bigger picture about violence against women being an entrenched problem in India. This is the land where sati used to be practised. Under the BJP’s rule things have got worse.

I am in my 4th year in a T2 NLU. I have done tier 1 internships and others and in corp and disputes yada yada. I do not seem to like it. I don't think I can sit in an office for 10 hours or more and then give my whole life to it. I am definitely not passionate about law. The thought of doing this for the rest of my life scares the shit out of me. But then, I ask myself, then what do I do?

This is a question for anyone who is or was in the same situation. Is it worth going into law knowing you don't like it for the sake of having an apartment to come home for to sleep 5 hours and never having time for yourself or should one explore and see your peers do better (at least on the outside)?

It is the same situation all around. Yes, this will be in the media for a few days and then it will be gone under the rug on the pretext of the next big breaking news. Men will still remember it but will chose to ignore it by diverting their minds and for the fear of being called as conservative or patriarchal though they may still feel that whatever is happening is wrong. And No this is not a gender war, what people have been failing to understand is that they get support or not get a support from the institutions only on the basis of the influence and consequences it may arouse. Before anyone says anything I may myself clarify, I am a man and I am not trying to under supplement the issue here, but just yesterday even though the countrywide we saw huge protests to erupt, the key suspects have been given bail in RG Kar Medical College rape case on the basis of CBI failing to file a chargesheet in time. What we are failing to understand is that it, although it may seem, is not Man v Woman, not Upper Caste v Lower Caste, not Rich v Poor but it's about Greedy (for power, money, control, etc.) v those who are eventually paying the cost to fulfill these greedy. Ain't a moral police nor a philosopher here but this is certainly what seems true in the absolute sense which no other aspect as mentioned above is.

NLS is no comparison with nalsar or NLU delhi or other NLUs. It’s numero uno and if you get a seat you must join it. NLS faculty is ten times superior than any NLU. Their only competition in jindal or foreign colleges. NLS alumni again have 10 times more influential than any NLU. So no question if you get NLS. You must not miss this opportunity.

Karuna Nundy replaces her. So both the parents and junior docs are rotating lawyers who represent the left rather than the right: Indira Jaising, Bikash Bhattacharya, Vrinda Grover, Karuna Nundy etc. But there are some third-parties who have intervened and engaged Phiroze Edulji and Mahesh Jethmalani, while Tushar Mehta is representing the CBI.

Yet despite this battery of lawyers no chargesheet has been filed by the CBI against two of the main suspects and they just got bail.

https://theprint.in/india/as-2nd-lawyer-fighting-rg-kar-case-quits-differences-between-doctors-family-legal-team-surface/2402486/

https://www.edexlive.com/amp/story/news/2024/Dec/13/rg-kar-rape-murder-senior-advocate-karuna-nundy-to-represent-victims-parents-in-sc-trial-court

Hi, I’m sharing my personal experience here, if by chance it helps you.

Forget graduating, I would sometimes forget things after the semester finished. I’ve no idea how I got through most of my university life with good scores because I have no recollection of contract law, constitution, criminal law or anything I studied bar Company Law - which I was slightly better at recalling than other subjects.

This isn’t something to gloat about because it quickly caught me off guard in my first year of work. In all honesty, a mixture of COVID, heavy transactional work, busy seniors - really did not help me when I was an A0. In fact, if I met myself back in 2020 as a first year lawyer, I would say that I should have been sacked for how bad I was. In my first year, my biggest priority was that I focus on the small aspects of a transaction I was given and not think about anything else - which is not right.

But I recovered but lot more to go. As an answer below tells you, specialising is key. This may seem like a vague statement but it actually made a huge difference for me. I had applied for an LLM after my first year at the job and I got a good US school, and when I was doing the online “meet and greet” with other potential batchmates, it scared me just how senior and just how much the others knew so I deferred my admission to get back to basics.

The first thing I did was find out something I really liked and then find the corporate angle to it. Football and IPL was a natural fit for me so I found genuine interest in studying about what an “LBO” is and why it is not allowed in India (how Manchester United were bought). Progressively that moved onto other sectors I liked like Media, FnB and then FinTech. The idea was to truly find my work immersive by understanding who the buyer and who the Target was. Books and YouTube were most helpful. I would google a lot of words while watching Shark Tank US, which I did not understand.

This helped me a lot when it came to doing DD - as it told me the full story of a company across various aspects.

Then it was about bothering seniors, and a lot of YouTube. Nobody explains to us in University why Indian SPAs have “Warranty and Representations” treated exactly the same - when in fact, they are separate concepts. Nobody ever tells you why a breach of warranty should be backed indemnity and not damages. The idea of “specific performance” does not suddenly appear in your head. Equally, nobody had ever taught me the boiler plate clauses in detail. Nobody teaches you why de-minimis and basket are 0.1 and 1 and why these change for auctions. Nobody teaches you where the concept of specific indemnity came from. So I went and studied these in detail - not from books, but from my firm’s material and YouTube.

After that, it was entirely about ensuring that I find a way to get on calls with my seniors - who after a while, relented and did allow me to sit on negotiations with my mouth shut and to take notes. This was life changing and now that I’m fairly mid level, I enjoy looking at all possible positions and their rationale - without saying “this is not market”. This was 2023.

In 2024, I was seriously caught out on some very niche aspects of shares on a slightly complicated transaction which neither my partner nor I had ever seen - my partner found a solution and I did not, which truly got me interested in instruments. So a lot of my time this year has been learning about shares and all sorts of instruments. I wish I had done these in detail before.

My current goal is to learn more of the math for example, closing accounts where a transaction is cash-free, debt free. Conversion of shares, anti-dilution, vesting of shares - as I’m progressively doing some VC work.

Even after all of this, I will often get stumped on some really basic thing that I should know, but I don’t. This disheartens me at times, but I accept that my skill is that I have energy to learn on my own time.

Obviously none of this is possible without great seniors and mentors - I have generally had exceptionally patient seniors who had a lot of time for my horrible mistakes. Of course, this is just product and law - I’m slowly starting to realise just how much more there is to corporate profession in terms of soft skills and downward/ upward managing.

My suggestion is to (somehow) try and find an enjoyment in the core work that you do. In all honesty, that’s what has kept me going without feeling like I’m burning out.

Thanks for the above response to my comment and I understand that you feel that NALSAR Faculty is not worth being talked about, which may be true from your own personal experience, so won’t disagree with you.

However, the you’d consider this - and I’ve been taught by Chauhan, Dhanda, Chauhan. Pranav was in Uni while I was in college but that doesn’t mean that other faculty members cannot rise to the challenge. During my time at Uni, a lot of good professors moved, new blood came in and did a decent job. Sudhanshu himself became much better semester-on-semester, he was fairly inexperienced when he started with Company law in third year for me when I was at Uni but my final semesters, I used to love attending his classes.

I cannot comment on academic culture, I don’t know what that means. NALSAR was just a great place to be - in that, I liked not having to worry so much about my academics on a daily basis but had to study when I needed to. I was free to do what I want on most days. Instructions were very clear about the academic system.

But I will say - making a blanket statement like there is no reputation is a bit of a stretch. Even in my work life, a lot of doors and connections open by saying that I am a NALSAR alumni. You can’t wash away these institutional things in a period of a few years.

You are right - perhaps if I was in OP’s shoes - I’d naturally gravitate towards NLS. But I didn’t get into NLS - I have a lot of friends from NLS so I’d hear both good and bad things. However, that doesn’t suddenly make NALSAR a bad place to go to, nor does it drop NALSAR out of the consideration of NLS v NALSAR. There were quite a few people in my batch who made the decision to come to NALSAR over NLS.

Yes, very true. Any CV which doesn't belong to someone from one of those universities whose ego is like a balloon so filled with air that one small prick with a pin will blow it up in somebody's face. Clearly, such a one doesn't realise when people are just having fun, which shows the quality of those universities.

I know the answer of this can be very generic like do internship and all. But I really want to know what specific skills do people in tier 1 firms need in disputes and Is it possible to get PPO in dispute? Plzz share some tips.

I'm a 3rd year law student and really want to go into litigation and can't afford to chamber practice because of financial reasons. I'm thinking to intern part time but because of that my grades will be affected. Do these tier 1 firms focus on gpa before hiring as my gpa is already below average and I don't want to close door for corporate also.

I got married at 27 and I had wondered if it was too soon. It wasn't. Do not compare your situation with your peers. Lawyers are well known to compromise on life and home for their careers. If you guys are comfortable with each other, and have an idea how it is to spend life together, go for it.

Also, you would be surprised that men are lucky that they do not have to face the bias for being married. Women have to face that too often and it is unfair.

I know you won’t want to hear this but as a man in a good job, think very carefully before marrying (whether now or in the future). You might be in love and might think your girlfriend loves you (which may even be true at this time) but the chances of a marriage breaking down are now in excess of 50%, at which point it is also highly unlikely that your former wife continues to treat you reasonably when it comes to the division of assets and custody of any children you may have.

The divorce laws, and more importantly their current implementation, are loaded against men in good jobs. You are entering into a contract with a greater than 50% chance of termination, that contains a termination clause that will strip you of staggering amounts of earned and inherited wealth, and a method of termination that will likely result in the imposition of false criminal cases against you, your parents and male siblings. Lastly, there is no method that is fully within your control to mitigate this risk. As a lawyer, ask yourself whether you would advise your client to sign that contract.

Some might argue that no misfortune will befall your marriage if you are a good, loving human being. Sadly, this is far from the truth. The people we chance upon in our lives and the courts to which they drag us very often have little regard for our inherent decency and kindness. I speak from experience, my own and that of many of my peers, most for whom divorce came after 10/15/20 + years of marriage.

Chances are you won’t heed this, which is natural, since we tend to learn from our own experiences, not from those of others, however salutary. Besides, I am but an anonymous voice in the ether.

In ending, I do hope you have no adverse experiences in your prospective marriage, but don’t jump in with all four paws too quickly. Safety first, and always. All the best.