fight them as much as you can. 3xx is a wonderful rank and certainly a game changer.

whichever nlu you are getting (and will likely be upgraded later) - show them that its a safe and academic place. show them the wonderful achievements of the alumni. and of course show them your own sincerity. i cannot stress this enough - if you go from here to nlu to high-paying job, you can literally move social classes and countries. opportunities are limitless. if your parents were okay with it before, they are likely to change their mind. please, don't let this opportunity go. reassure them that you will not become like that. update us!! good luck

Trilegal is miles ahead KCO in terms of pre-partnership pay without much headache of book building or heavy billables. AZB, KCO and S/CAM can be good for top performers who can also rope in a heck lot of business at the 8-9 PQE (and onwards) stages.

S&R and TT&A should be kept out of the big-boys conversation, respectfully.

Hi all, I'm currently an A1 (A2 from April '25) at a Tier 1 firm and am looking to lateral. I am considering applying to Rajat Mukherjee's team at KCO Noida and would appreciate any relevant feedback, advice, or experiences from those familiar with the team.

P.S. Would also be grateful for recommendations/suggestions of Corporate/Private M&A teams in Delhi/Noida looking for associates!

What NLU will you get at your rank? Can you share that with us? Are you from the pure merit category and not eligible for any type of reservation? If you will get a top 7 NLU then why don’t you get some established people or CLAT coaches to convince your parents? However, if you get one of the mediocre NLUs it will be harder to convince them.

Big twist to the whole work hours debate. Whereas people were attacking Narayana Murthy and the L&T CEO for being boomers and out of touch, this time the criticism is coming from a millennial IIT boss working in the US.

So is it time to look within then? Is Gen Z taking expectations of work-life balance too far?

https://www.ndtv.com/feature/even-at-rs-1-crore-salaries-us-ceo-claims-indian-tech-workers-lack-work-ethic-7618247#pfrom=home-ndtv_lateststories

India does not make hard tech. Indian companies mostly do low cost grunt work of automatic accounting, payroll, etc. Nobody is having their own database software like IBM or Oracle. So the kind of IP practice in US cannot be here. Some pharma litigation is there and that is cornered by 3-4 lawyers in Delhi.

Hi Everyone. I am aspiring to pursue a 3 year LLB from DU this year and build a career in corporate law. Can you give me any pearls of wisdom about what should I do and what should I not or maybe give me any ideal roadmap to get into tier 1 law firm? I would be really grateful to you.

One of the world's greatest legal philosophers is a man by the name of Brian Leiter, currently based at the University of Chicago. He has a blog where he writes about lots of stuff. His pieces are divided into categories. One of these categories is called "Merciless rhetorical spankings of fanatics, villains, and ignoramuses". Even Leiter, who is, obviously, a man of immense wisdom, couldn't have envisioned a world in which there could be even one person who is all three at once. However, obviously there are multiple such now. The textbook example in the Indian legal profession is the author of this comment. That is the best I can do as regards "Merciless rhetorical spanking". Who can come up with an updated category that can accommodate this person?

Yes. There should be no income tax. What do you mean I need to pay tax when I am earning just 15L/annum?

Bihar should not get any money because it will only go into the hands of the politicians. Money should be poured into my state only because the politicians in my state are honest and will utilize the money in the most efficient way possible.

Past Governments have taken really good steps to tax rich farmers and have actively found out fake farmers but of course, this government supports the rich and will not think about doing that.

Of course everything should be privatized. However, if the Government is also selling everything and putting money into the hands of the capitalists.

If I have a masters in human rights, can I do a PhD in sociology, history or any other social science subject ? How will it affect my promotion to asst professor to associate professor? Do I compulsorily need a PhD in law only ? Please help. With NET, I will get to teach only till asst professor level ?!?

What is the scope of real estate law in Delhi? I have received an offer from a real estate company in Gurgaon and would like to understand the future prospects in this field. Additionally, is it possible to transition from RERA law to other areas of real estate law? My goal is to gain expertise and establish myself as a skilled property lawyer (litigation mainly- property disputes, land acquisitions, nclt matters etc). I would appreciate any advice you can share.

King and Partridge, Bangalore - Tax team

They do direct tax (primarily TP), and indirect tax. Good quality of work but a crap work environment. Partners are good as people, but couldn't care enough about the team culture. Bullying and harrassment is common to the point people have been leaving every 2-3 months. Team is extremely toxic when working with members who do only direct tax, working with indirect tax is pleasant.

Presently a lawyer at a boutique law firm. A1 doing M&A and PE/VC. Considering a switch because I get paid pretty less (when compared to the T1s and T2s), but pay is decent otherwise.

Work hours are reasonable and weekends are mostly free. My questions are:

1. Should I be looking for a switch, at all, given the kind of rants that surface on the platform?

2. If I do switch, when is a good time to do it? After I become A2?

3. Will my experience be discounted? If yes, will I start as a fresher in the T1/T2 and will my pay be adjusted accordingly or will they bargain basis my present pay?

Thanks for the help. No trolls please.

This is why I completely despise the weird men’s rights supporters in India - women go through this BS on a regular basis. Truth is that it’s the men who drink crazily and go astray but no we blame the women. Just choose the college of your liking and move out. Apply to the college for a scholarship.

This is an eye-opener. If MBAs from the likes of Kellogg, Harvard, MIT Sloan, and Wharton are struggling to find jobs, then God save those who pay close to 60-70 lacs in private law schools and close to 25-30 lacs in places like NLS (taking an education loan without batting an eyelid).

I think she's underestimating the cost of inflation. Suppose you earn 50L a year at age 40, which is a median figure for an average lawyer from an okay university. That means your savings should be 3 x 40L =1.5 crores. Isn't that too less?? Even if I assume the figure is 1 cr a year and you save 3 cr. That still sounds to less.

Is this lady being super-elite by thinking that your income at age 40 is 4 cr a year and you have 12 cr saved (which should be sufficient)?? Or is she talking plain rubbish??

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I was in your place ten years ago. Fight like hell. With a 300 something rank you might get nujs. It’s a life changing thing to go to a university like that. Tell them they’re making you throw away a good job and a stable career, and a shot at making something of yourself in five years for uncertainty and poor job prospects. Indian parents understand money. This is not at all the time to give up. You’ll be kicking yourself if you do. Think about if you can get an education loan or ABS and do it on your own if they won’t support you.

I went to law school. Not everyone who goes there ends up an alcoholic or boy crazy. Most people actually don’t. Most of my friends graduated not having drank, smoked, and were virgins. Your parents are wrong about not letting you study.

These are obviously going to be taxed as luxury items. That the conditions of our roads is bad is a different issue altogether. One having the money to buy a Mercedes or BMW make car, would naturally be having the money to pay taxes on the same. Government should not be squeezing the last drop of blood from the middle class (tbh, the "upper" middle class as well). The ones owing hugh end luxury cars are a potential revenue source.

Listen to your parents. You'll win in the long run, even though it might seem like a loss now. An NLU tag is highly overhyped. This is just an NLU we are talking of - a state university. NLUs are not worth fighting for and creating a rift with your parents. Do extremely well wherever they want you to take admission. I am sure the "law college that nobody's heard of" is affiliated with some university. So become the university topper. After that get into a super good PG program.

Jessup

Vis West, East (Doesn't have any qualifiers)

ICC

Price

Frankfurt

Manfred Lachs

These are Grand Slams

Oxford IP

Stetson

WTO

Fletcher

Maritime

FDI

Mandela

Nuremberg

These are also some prominent moots.

I’m someone who didnt take clat seriously and somehow got into a tier 2 nlu (sheer luck). I see how diff my life is in terms of opportunities, mentorship, general college culture and friendships. I would do it all over again if i had the chance to because it is absolutely worth it. Fight. Convince. Have them talk to actual lawyers (reach out on linkedin etc) have them talk to me ffs

Show them the salary ladder of an average corpo lawyer and then show them the peanuts the average litigation lawyer from no name district colleges (which almost all of them end up as) earn. Use logic, plead, beg, cry and if none of this works give them silent treatment and last resort threaten them with self-harm (just empty threats, nothing more). I know last option is just straight up vile but as someone with similar rank in CLAT 2025 that is what I would end up pulling had my parents refused to send me.

Do not and I say DO NOT leave a tier 1 NLU for some fuckass local “khatam” college. You will fuckall chances of making it into big law. Even if your intentions are something else, be it litigation, judiciary, or JAG, do not miss out on the NLU experience.

I have a good university pool rank in my college, and due to some miscommunications, could not use my rank to get good national moots like NLS Arbitration, NUJS Corporate or HNLU International moot etc.

Are there any good moots left to be announced till April? Cnlu Patna was the latest and that is gone to a different team from my college, too

In my firm, I see that there are a good number of senior partners from NLS (considering we had an early start) and sufficient number of young partners ( considering other good NLUs that have come up over the years). But what is shocking is abysmal number of young associates at SA and PA level. There is also a joke going around that NLS folks are quitters. Partners at T1 law firms, do you see this trend as well? It would be good to witness if kids are moving to litigation or other areas but that is not the case; majority of the recent batches are still sitting for placements. Therefore, unless they are going abroad (which is doubtful to say the least), one could say that they are not doing well enough for law firm culture and are relegating themselves to in-house counsel setup with deep paycut in the long run. Is this true across other tier 1s as well?

Hey guys,

Hoping this reaches out to the people who have been in the profession for a while. In the context of corporate law, something I've realised recently is that if you need to make a name or be at your highest earning potential, you have to be in the Tier-1 firms. However, every person I talk who have been in one of these Tier-1 firms, echo the same concern - burnout. Honestly, that's a valid and genuine factor to consider, cause burnout shouldn't be a reason to dissuade one from a practice/industry they are interested in. Also, for an industry which requires one to be so precise, everyone's body can only do so much until it gives up. So how does one in these Tier-1 firms even make partner when they suffer so much in 6 months - 1 year? Is there an alternative? (I'm sure there's a way to work around this) (fingers crossed)

So, as per the opinion of the experienced, what would you suggest? I'll obviously play devil's advocate but I really want your take on this? (HELP)

1. Transition as a lawyer to a country which prioritises WLB (Navigating the entire procedure of transition)

2. Move in-house (potentially stunts growth for people early in their career)

3. Do a different practice area like litigation, IP etcc.

4. Stick to a boutique your whole career (obviously earning far less than your Tier-1 counterparts)

5. Your suggestions

Regards,

Someone who is going through it

Hi all,

Would anyone please be able to give me a ballpark figure or the salary range for working in India as a senior research fellow in one of the law think tanks like Vidhi Legal or any other independent research organisations? (specifically in the field of climate change law and environmental law).

12 L benefit ceases once you cross it.

Crores poured into airports in Bihar that will be underutilised and money will go into the pockets of politicians.

Nothing to tax rich farmers or fake farmers like Suhana Khan.

No privatisation of PSUs

Could go one….

The posts here look so scary, but here's my experience. I was subjected to screaming on a daily basis that was so loud that my entire office building could hear (the kind you get goosebumps on your body for). Words such as BC, MC etc were hurled at me on the daily. The partner's abuses were personal in nature - For example: This part of the draft is quite stupid - would translate as you are so stupid. But apart from work deliverables I was called stupid for picking up his full can of juice as opposed to his empty one, for throwing it away, I have been called stupid for setting up his laptop and not fixing his mouse with it. I was sent to buy cigarettes for him on the daily, and i would breathe his second hand smoke like it was implied consent for working there, and come home smelling of it. I was used as the office boy for our office and did a lot of office boy things when all the other branches had an office boy. I would leave office as late 11 pm, 12 am daily, and still get yelled at as to how i am not giving in sufficient time in the office. I was forced to stay in even when i didn't have work, and had to listen to the partners admission that - 'this was ragging, haha now sit'- because he was lazy too lock the door. I was yelled at for the maid's cleaning as well. I was yelled at for wearing formal clothes that he didnt like and was not appreciative of. I have gone to the office when i have met with accidents riding my bike and was forced to buy his cigarettes - limping down the stairs with a twisted ankle. This man would take a piss behind me where the washroom was but would not close the door. He would not even flush. He would ask me to massage his neck. He would tell me to wear makeup and basically use fear to get whatever the fuck he wants. I quit after 2.5 years, and i took a while off because i fell horribly sick. But i hope this man burns in hell.

Look, my question essentially is this: do law firms pay you your monthly retainership fee post tax deduction based on the tax slabs for e.g., 10% of net taxable salary calculated on the basis of overall yearly salary calculation? Or is there a flat 10% tax deduction each month on the gross salary?

I would say fight with them again. NLU is worth it. Talk to your mentors and get them to have a conversation with your parents

But if u really have no option and u stick to the private college, it’ll definitely be hard but what I will ask u to do is keep your grades up. Be on top of your batch, intern in all the right places, build connections.

Did u go to a coaching centre? If any of your friends made it in, then keep in touch with them. Ask seniors for guidance..

I wish u all the best.